have such a nice warm evening as possible tomorrow at 11:10 the discussion platform begins, e-e via carpathia, here in the artery from the press, i will be with you from 12:00 to 13:00 each collegium will try, we will talk about the culture of pretensions, about sociology , about everything that knows it is happening now, it is important , join us, watch, and now i am saying goodbye to you, and for your attention, a news release from my colleagues from the ukrainian editorial office of bbc news. good evening. we are from ukraine, from ukraine. church sanctions against novinskyi and the governor of the kyiv-pechersk lavra president zelensky instructed to deal with the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate the head of the anglican church arrived in ukraine the archbishop of canterbury he visited buch and biden

said that he is ready to meet with putin if he is interested in ending the war apart from lin, they answered that that they will not discuss the withdrawal of their troops deal with the ukrainian orthodox church check the work of the kyiv pechersk lavra the president volodymyr zelenskyi was the driver of the decision of the national security and defense council regarding the defense in ukraine of religious organizations affiliated with centers of influence in russia. the nsdc meeting took place the day before, and today the corresponding decree was published on the president's website. later it became known that together with this, the nsdc also introduced church sanctions against the sponsor of the uoc, vadym . the mother-in-law

of more than ten people, the vicar of the novinian lavra, vladyka pavla, vadym novinsky has a number of businesses in ukraine and before the war was considered one of the richest people in the country since the time of the president yanukovych is seriously helping the church financially , now he left for germany at the beginning of november, the leadership of the uoc visited him, church sanctions say the bbc sources will be similar to sanctions against ukrainian citizens, in particular, viktor should have his accounts and assets blocked and seized, and problems may arise during trips abroad and such a decision is quite radical both for the national security council and for the president himself, who previously tried to approach church issues cautiously, so what has changed now, we will ask the a religious scholar is in touch with us andriy smirnov congratulations and thank you for joining the broadcast, the first question is what will happen to the kiev-pechersk lavra, now we are witnessing a turning point in the religious policy of

president zelensky, we should expect the development of a bill that will limit or prohibit the activities of the russian orthodox church of the church of ukraine , a new legal entity has already been registered, the kyiv-pechersk lavra of the orthodox church of ukraine. therefore, in the near future, we can expect a revision of the terms of use of the ukrainian lavra of the orthodox church and the moscow patriarchate, the orthodox church of ukraine claims certain churches in the upper lavra, where there is a reserve and the dormition cathedral and the stairs from them, the temple can be transferred to the full or partial use of the orthodox church of ukraine. and what will happen now to the ukrainian orthodox church of moscow the patriarchate that in ukraine re-unions do not have the legal status to

automatically ban is it even more impossible to liquidate the largest religious organization of ukraine instead ukrainian orthodox church will try to defend itself using all legal possibilities in order to block either the presidential decree or the future law that will limit its activities and will prevent the access of the orthodox church of ukraine to the kyiv-pechersk lavra well, we saw that the security service of ukraine conducted searches in churches like this during the last few weeks so why did president zelenskyy now take up the church issue so really for a long time the president was not interested in religious issues, but when the security service of ukraine informed him about numerous cases of a-a collaborationism both in the temporarily occupied territories and e about the pharmacy pro-russian activity - this is the clergy because it is the mp

in ukraine a-a the president decided to intervene and after he did not receive support from metropolitan onufriy there was no reaction of the synod to the cooperation of priests and the progress of the uoc-mp with the russian occupiers, the president decided to entrust the development of a special law that should limit the activities of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, you do not connect these searches with the change in the leadership of the security service. obviously, this is due to the fact that ivan bakanov, a bcmp, he did not hide that he was a parishioner of the verden monastery in kyiv, which in general is a stronghold of russian monks in ukraine, the new head of the sbu has no such affiliation with the obsmp, so it is much easier for him initiate criminal proceedings and

carry out these security measures and identify russian agents among the clergy of the uoc-mp. well, in the ukrainian orthodox church itself, the connection with russia was denied and the sbu searches were called illegal and groundless after the start of russia's war against ukraine, he describes it was removed from the statute. practically all references to the moscow patriarchate are formal. nevertheless, there is a mention of the program and moscow patriarch alexy ii, which indicates that the canonical connection with the russian orthodox church is preserved more in the eyes of the orthodox the world uoc is the totality of the eparchy of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, therefore, metropolitan onufriy should not only distance himself or

distance himself from moscow. he should support autocephaly. and cephaly is church independence , and in order for it to be recognized, it is necessary to send appropriate letters to the heads of local orthodox churches alone or in in ukraine, there is already an orthodox church of ukraine, which has a tomos from the ecumenical patriarch, therefore a dialogue between the orthodox church of ukraine and the ukrainian orthodox church is inevitable about the unification, in your opinion, does this story end with something, or should we wait for new searches? maybe even the closing of uoc temples. actually, regarding the draft law, what is its further fate when it has actually already been implemented? it has not even been developed yet, and we expect that in two months the cabinet of ministers of ukraine will submit the text of the draft law to the verkhovna rada, instead, in the near future, we can expect new searches, in particular, in the pochaiv

lavra or in other dioceses of the uoc mp, because there are enough pro-russian priests and bishops there, as well as adepts thank you for exhausting the head of the anglican church, the archbishop of canterbury, justin walby, was in touch with us. this trip is a unique and historic event. as you know, the anglican church is a state church in england, and its head is the king; in fact , the archbishop of canterbury is in charge of the church. justin welby visited buch, where civilians were massacred during the russian occupation, he said that there can be no peace in ukraine until russia stops lying about what it is doing teaches places for quiet contemplation and pilgrimage. everyone who wants to see what the

russian war is doing to ukraine comes here. there was a mass grave for 116 civilians who were murdered during the occupation of buchi by russian troops. i want to engrave this in my memory. after all, vladimir putin still denies the existence of evidence of russia's guilt, the truth must be told, no matter how painful, one cannot be on the way forward built on lies. he must stop lying . lavrov and putin committed atrocities here, the evidence is lined on display in this church are pictures of the destruction and the dead who were lying on the streets of buchi, found after the russian troops were forced to retreat from here

, and you, with your hands tied behind your back and bullet holes, after what you saw here, the archbishop had no doubts that something was deliberate starting a war is an act of great evil. it was not a forced step. it was a conscious choice, and this is a disaster for me. what is vladimir putin to blame for all this suffering? i am convinced that putin decided to start a war and unleash this evil that comes from the beginning provoked war, ukrainians now call this

bridge the bridge of hope, but these crosses are for those who lost their lives fleeing from the russian occupation, all this makes it very, very clear what these people went through. justin welby told us to impose some kind of peace on ukraine would be immoral, he calls this war the struggle for freedom and to support this struggle, as he believes, is the duty of the west. of settlements in the occupied parts of zaporizhzhia and kherson regions, similar statements were also made by the ukrainian military the day before, but there is no independent confirmation of them. so far, there is no independent confirmation of them . according to the general staff of the armed forces of the kherson region, russian troops have left oleshki and redeployed to

forest belts in zaporizhzhia region. the russian army has reserves in the annexed crimea that can be used in the event of an attack by the armed forces of ukraine, analysts of the institute assume that the russian command is waiting for such an offensive and about the situation at the front, we will talk with the military expert, the director of the independent platform nuji in poletics rysovych network mykhailo samits mr. mykhailo, i welcome you on the air and we will start from the southern direction , so the general staff says that russian troops are withdrawing equipment and reducing the number of troops in the kherson region and in the zaporizhia region, and what is this redeployment connected with in your opinion? what are the russians preparing? i congratulate you. first of all, they are not withdrawing troops from the zaporizhia kherson region regions, they simply redeploy their troops , let's say so, to safer places of deployment, because ukrainian troops every hour

of every day and every night carry out quite effective strikes with high-precision means such as high- mars bo mlrs precisely at the places of deployment of russian troops, and therefore they are forced to deploy constantly. of course, to move further, for example, from the dnieper on the left bank of the kherson region or in the zaporizhzhia region from the line of contact, and in principle this indicates, first of all, that the the preparation of ukrainian troops for offensive operations of the kind we saw in kharkiv or kherson regions a little earlier , we will not talk about the time of these offensive operations, it all depends on other parameters and by no means time, we will not prepare for the offensive until the new year in two years, one calendar or another, it will be determined by the ukrainian command, and of course it will depend not on time,

but on other factors. the situation in the direction of bakhmut, there is actually continuous shelling there, there are a lot of losses on both sides, how strategically important bakhmut is, and why is it that such a fierce struggle is being waged for ukraine, for the armed forces of ukraine, every ukrainian city is important , in fact important for the russians, this is a continuation, after all a more political order personally from putin, who would like to demonstrate at least some victories before the new year, again, it is customary for russians to demonstrate before certain important dates some successes of their own, but in reality they do not achieve what putin demands, but in any case they throw huge forces there, spend huge human resources, resources of weapons and military equipment, the ukrainian army there is also concentrating in order to prevent the sending of russian well, do

you know who is in bakhmut of the direction now, it's chvk wagner it's mobilized, first of all, it was really about the representatives of the so-called private military companies wagner prigozhina although everyone knows that this or let's say yes it is known that these are the organizational structures of the military intelligence of russia e-e that really use any human resources now, including those arrested or people who are serving sentences, they use them as disposable material, actually throwing e-e into battle and that analysis of tactics which are actually used, they have now begun to use, including means of intelligence and coordination, including er drones of the navigation system, but er, this is about the

officers and those who coordinate operations , why talk about the personnel, this is actually disposable e-e, what do they call the personnel themselves and rush into battle, and most of these people die under the command of the armed forces of ukraine, whether they are actually mobilized or mobilized, they can change the situation, so because they claim about different numbers, and they are not small, and about hundreds of thousands, so on 2018, are these russians mobilized? so they can influence, well , even now, according to russian data, according to the statements of the russian leadership, they mobilized about 300,000 people, a large part of these people have already appeared at the front, but as we can see, significant and significant there have been no changes either in the tactics or in the operations of the armed forces of the russian federation, especially in terms of strategy and aesthetics, the ukrainian army has the initiative, despite the fact that quite a lot of mobilized men have arrived at the front, it is the

ukrainian army that determines when the next offensive will take place, in which direction, what specific tasks will be set and now russia, i really think , is planning an additional mobilization, and perhaps even more massive, in order to, after all, accumulate forces in order to, for example, form a shock group a-a in belarus although there are no such forces there now, we note that russia has begun to create infrastructure for the deployment of such a large group e-e this week, for example, about 15 tor m2 anti-aircraft missile systems arrived on the territory of belarus hospitals are being formed on the territory of belarus, so it can be said that russia is already preparing the infrastructure , the air defense system, the development system, hospital support, and so on, in order to quickly , for example, deploy a strike group, although of course, in any case, it will be several weeks and ukrainian intelligence will determine that. well, what

do you want to touch on one topic, so this week they called different figures regarding the losses of ukrainian soldiers in the war, mykhailo podolyak said that from 10 to 13 thousand ukrainian soldiers were killed at the beginning of the russian invasion the military did not confirm this, before that there was a statement by the head of the european commission about 100,000 dead, and after that, the truth was clarified that it was about the pierced and wounded. in your opinion, different figures or is it appropriate to name the number of dead during the war? i think not absolutely a-a this is of course a difficult topic and we know that our heroes also die, get wounded and sacrifice themselves, for ukrainians this topic is clear. that is, we are fighting for our freedom. it is of great importance. the main thing is that

we have to remember about each hero, and after the war we will know the real numbers. now, in principle, we cannot know exactly the number of dead and wounded, including because statistical these data are available only to the highest military and political construction thank you for the analysis, it was mykhailo sami from the director of the independent platform newjio-polyt expression network thank you, thank you, the president of the united states, joe biden, said that the war, the president of france, emmanuel macron , is determined to bring russia and putin to justice for his war at the end of the world. he made this statement to the press -conferences in the white house dedicated to the state visit of the president of france to the usa, the french leader made it clear that he would never call ukraine to compromise, and washington and paris shares a belief in freedom and democratic values. we will never call the ukrainians to a

compromise that would be unacceptable to them. we must respect the ukrainians, who must decide when and under what conditions to conduct negotiations regarding their territory and their future. therefore , biden made it clear that he is ready to meet with by vladimir putin if he is really interested in finding ways to end the war, according to him, the russian president does not show this interest so far, and i offer to listen to him. i am ready talk to mr. putin if he is really interested in seeking a way to end the war he hasn't done it yet if that happens then in consultations with my friends in nato french friends i would be happy to sit down with putin to find out what he has in mind at the moment i think what emmanuel said is absolutely critical. we must support the ukrainian people

. putin's press secretary dmytro piskov immediately reacted to biden's words in the kremlin. the kremlin is not ready to withdraw troops from the territory of ukraine, but the russian the president was and remains open to negotiations, the united states still does not recognize new territories as part of russia, and this makes it difficult to find a basis for mutual discussion, piskov told a journalist, and after negotiations in the white house, the presidents of the united states and france issued a joint statement in which they promised to continue supporting the protection of sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine, as well as increase the supply of air defense and plan an international conference on ukraine in paris on december 13, what the event is ready to go to, analyzes a member of the american council on international relations charles downloaded the headlines after this summit solidarity friendship france all european countries stand side by side with

the united states since the invasion of russia in ukraine are there any differences wak accents in the attitude to the war, in my opinion yes macron is ready to advance a little further when it comes to about the use of diplomacy, although the usa is also moving in this direction after the invasion, macron kept the channel of communication with putin open, it seems that he is ready to talk to him again if it is not enough contacts of the usa with the russians and no contacts of biden with putin, but these are tactical differences , in fact, if you look more broadly, it is a strong solidarity. there is agreement on both sides of the bloc that, first of all, it is necessary to continue to support ukraine so that the country has the best possible opportunity at the negotiating table, this was outlined by biden and secondly , as macron said and biden agreed, the ukrainians should decide when they are ready to negotiate when they feel that they have used all

options on the battlefield. so, i think we will see that the initiative is now on the side ukrainians, but we also begin to see that the trans-atlantic commonwealth is moving in the direction of opening diplomatic doors , setting up a diplomatic table, even if no one is ready to sit at it, but who was ready to meet with putin? yes, this is the prime minister of india in rendering fashion, this is them at the summit in uzbekistan in september, taking advantage of the war, india continues to cheaply buy russian oil and other raw materials, in addition, ukraine received during the vote in the un assembly to condemn the russian invasion in march and condemn annexation of ukrainian regions in october this thursday, india headed the g20 - this is a group of the world's leading economies, and the prime minister of the country assured that under the presidency of india, the general

sense of unity will be promoted, so why india still remains neutral in russia's war against ukraine and how it can be changed, let's try to figure out my colleague in communication is the bbc correspondent georgy er manjuro. i congratulate you. you researched this topic and wrote an article with a rather interesting title: indians do not know anything about ukraine. please tell me these conclusions, well, this is the conclusion of such experts from the region as well as indian journalists who are engaged in covering ukrainian issues in the indian mass media, in addition to the fact that ukraine does not have an informational presence in india, and indian journalists in particular note that the presentation of facts about indians do not see the current war, all these tragedies, and all these life stories of ukrainians in ukraine during the war, they do not see the suffering of the civilian population, and the topic of ukraine disappeared from the leading indian mass media very quickly, after

after april, at the beginning of it, it was quite discussed because 20,000 indian students arrived in ukraine, who mainly studied at ukrainian medical schools and universities, and the indian leadership had to evacuate them all from the country . and many groups spoke out against the war, protested near the russian embassy, ​​but then after april, around the time of the murder in buch , and this topic began to give way, and attention to this before this war decreased. well, as the latest survey shows you goff cambridge was held in india in october uh, more than 40% of indians believe that ah in ukraine, before this full-scale attack, for example, there was a genocide of the russian-speaking population, uh, there was a violation of the rights of russian speakers, uh, the country

was under the influence of the nazis and that is , it shows that if russian propaganda is quite successful in india, and there is nothing surprising in this, because india has been on the periphery of ukrainian foreign policy attention for years, there is a very weak diplomatic representation of everything 10 diplomats work for a country of 1.5 billion people. there are no ukrainian cultural e-e institutes, and according to ukrainian experts from the region, indians know very little about ukrainian history and culture, although at one time many engineers from ukraine in soviet times participated in the establishment of indian of the agricultural industry , thousands of indian students studied at ukrainian universities. that is, it is a rather absurd situation or that this country is on the periphery of ukrainian interests. well, already a full-scale war, russia did everything to stop cooperation between ukraine and india, that is, there

was a blow to india's export of agricultural products from ukraine to india, thousands of students in india had to evacuate ukrainian universities from ukraine, and a blow was also struck to the defense of cooperation between ukraine and india which was also of great importance in the relations between the two states, i.e. russia essentially destroyed its competitor ukraine in the indian market for educational services and defense cooperation. and why would ukraine sway india to its side in this war at all maybe it is in your opinion, now, first of all, india has become the chairman of the g20 group, and the prime minister in fashion wrote a program article about this chairmanship, where he noted that if india continued to try to achieve peace between the warring parties

parties and er what this war is one of the challenges for india it really is er india seeks er as soon as possible the end of this conflict of this war and seeks peace negotiations between russia and ukraine preferably at the level of the top leadership, it remains neutral and does not want to change his politics, i.e., to honor the side, but in ukraine there are all the excuses, all the bases in order to explain to the indian society and to convince it of its rightness regarding the fact that russia is pursuing an imperialist colonial policy towards ukraine, in india they do not like these colonialists very much practices that were quite evident during this full-scale war when russia essentially er well, we saw this superior attitude to ukrainian culture and language, we saw er desire

to seize foreign territories and we saw er desire to punish the population what is happening strikes on the energy infrastructure is all this corresponds to the classic colonial imperial policy in sometimes they do not like it very much and this can be used precisely as an argument ukrainian diplomacy by ukrainian society communication with indian society and the key to changing indian policy it is precisely to influence indian society to inform about the suffering of ukrainians, to inform about these colonial practices used by russia in the conflict, and this will have an impact on the position of the indian leadership. it also has very good relations with western countries, this is also an important factor. thanks to my colleague, i advise all our viewers to read the article by georgy herman, it is already on the bbc.ua website. that's what it's called, indians

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