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military circumstances in our country. i think there is a military expert, a participant in the peacekeeping positions, reserve colonel serhii rabskyi, and he is coming to us. i hope oleksandr khara, a diplomat. which center they did not write to me. well, there is no technical research of people at any time . answers so it was not even possible to pretend, but it was all like that, we all pray differently , maybe a lot, but first of all, yes, they are gods and there are energy workers, this is our debt. we now

have many gods, military gods, there are energy workers , even serhiy hrabský we welcome you, mr. serhiy, good health, mr. serhiy. good evening . good evening. i'm glad to see you, and we can see. yes, it's beautiful. well, look, the first question i would ask the editor is that many of them have been thrown around here and they 've done it right, and here are these rumors. how did you deal with them? p serhiy about the four hundred rockets that are being prepared somewhere and can fly and paralyze and in general well, maybe now 50% of the energy, or maybe even 100, how much can we believe in this, how likely is it, how many rockets are there, how many are ready for use how many

carriers can they take off at the same time? let's stand stoically, please, well, i guess it doesn't scare me either, because you know i love mathematics, i studied at a mathematics school, and that's it. the first blow that was delivered to ukraine and it counted, if i'm not mistaken, 182 missiles that were launched on the 24th in february over ukraine and did it cause a lot of damage? well, in principle, it did, but not so critical, and that is why we are talking to you now. i am from home, when from the studio, as for whether russia has 400 missiles, yes, there definitely is, and will they be able to i have to run them at the same time big doubts for that because well it's unlikely and impossible can they prepare them at the same time no they can't prepare them because you know uh why do you need to have

proper training grounds or can they stockpile them yes definitely can they uh to use, for example, several days of strikes. perhaps we have already experienced this with you. therefore, we should treat it calmly. informational and psychological operations, which has its own form, but it has only one goal: to intimidate us , to deprive us of the will to resist and, uh, to paralyze our divisions with you, well, this is unlikely to succeed, and we must understand that it is already a little too late to strike such blows because after all, you know the process went on, i said one of the leaders started the soviet union in his time and the flow of that technology that is already coming to us and the most important thing is the ability of ukrainians to survive and

adapt to those difficult conditions, well actually negate these efforts, plus the effectiveness of these strikes is relatively low, because well, more than 60% of all air targets are shot down by our anti-aircraft forces, but i will tell you that , you know, here we fall into such a media trap because rocket strikes are carried out every day and literally today we already received information about the dnipro, we are receiving information about other cities , that is, these strikes continue and that and we are communicating with you, that is, such a threat exists hypothetically that such a number of missiles that were announced 400, i will say more, maybe even 1,400 are still in the reserves of the russian federation, but the probability that they will be released is one-time, one-time, well , very, very small, even close to zero. sergey , i have another question, these are two such hot questions that under

bachmouth, what can we talk because there is always there. i remember the anecdote about the old forester with the matyuks . i won’t quote it today. it is from soviet times, but there is always something going on around this bahmute and there is an understanding, well no, there is no understanding of what the russian army is doing because it has been doing the same thing for several months, as he beats his forehead against the wall, there he fights and fights and fights and nothing comes of it. how important is it? how exhausted is this russian army? we are standing everywhere under the bahmut, somewhere there are some advances somewhere by 10 m, somewhere by half a kilometer, somewhere by 200 m, but it is clear that ukraine is somehow moving, and russia, well, if it is trying to hold ukraine, except for the bahmut, what is in the bahmut, bahmut, bahmut , for today, this is a point -is

the application of the most serious efforts that russia is currently making, and in fact these three points, namely bakhmut, below avdiyivka and maryinka, are the three points of the offensive of the russian troops, who are still trying to break through, and even on this map you can see how important is bakhmut today when we talk about this location, because from here the direction to kostyantynivka and further to druzkivka opens. and we don't see it on the map to the north. but there is a direction to uh, uh, slavyansk, why is it important for russians ago that they, based on the postulates of their strategy and operational art, hope that after capturing bakhmut, they will enter the operational

space . more now you already know that these active actions have acquired the signs of some kind of, well, more or less adequate reaction, that is, they are no longer trying to break through only to the lop on bakhmut. they are trying to bypass and now we already have such concepts as a tick, a cord washer, and a pond, and so on. that is, where the enemy is desperately trying to break through, as much as he succeeds, he does not succeed very well . yes, you know, with the same gesture hm, i will feel when the enemy uses exclusively light infantry , regardless of losses, and tries to move forward, eh, will they be able to take bakhmut, you know , i can’t say categorically, why, because we you are also witnesses of our modern history. this history is

remembered in oblovakh well, here is the toshkiv popasno in severodonetsk, i.e. the locations in which the portable simply transformed the space in front of it into a so -called lunar landscape, i.e. destroying everything possible that can only be destroyed on that lunar landscape simply physically there is no place to secure a place to say that i will not take bakhmut. well, i cannot guarantee this, although the probability is very low , because the conspiracy of communication with friends and one word bakhmut bakhmut and bakhmut bakhmut transferred there units of our harrow village are being redeployed, and i also have this, after all, more conviction that we will hold the situation there, why is it important for us because, you know, at one time, i already gave an example of the effect of such wet sugar for ants that is, when you need a language, you are an ant from the house. so when just a rod of wet sugar and they

all converge there, this is how bakhmut looks like for the russians. they are desperately trying to win at least some kind of media victory, and there are already many photos and materials, and where are they with such they declare with pomp that they have taken the cordyumovka, they want it not yet confirmed and so on and so on, that is, the tension is increasing, but it allows us to concentrate certain efforts on other directions and you know for me, with all the importance of bahmut, the southern direction looks more promising and i, well i don't even want to tease, but for some reason it seems to me that we will see more interesting information in the southern direction, and it is for us, er, from the point of view of the liberation of our territories , a higher priority. but the situation in bakhmachi is extremely it is difficult because the enemy, using this so-called light infantry, simply does not count on losses and it is said according to internal sources, such information is

received in the surrounding cities and villages , tens of wounded militants of military personnel are delivered, this indicates the intensity of the fighting , and i will not say that on our side, there are no losses either. unfortunately, we also suffer losses, but these losses, how do you say? they are worth it, because now the issue of the coming weeks and months of fighting is being resolved on the bakhmut, we have oleksandr on the phone yes, an expert of the defense strategies center diplomat so alexander, we will have a phone. alexander let's try to understand what happened, why was federal chancellor scholze's conversation with president putin today , and it happens so often now, they say yes, we can talk with russia, but if it stops the war and russia says she will not stop her actions, well, these are predictable things, why did the west start talking again about the fact that russia should stop, what

do you think president biden or president patron or federal chancellor scholz is counting on good evening well, in fact, it seems to me that the three of them simply decided to spoil, if not, at all, the rest of putin's life, then at least this weekend was. to be honest, i read the joint press conference of baidu and macron. i really liked it in the part of ukraine, because it was the first as a condition for sitting down at the negotiating table, biden sees the withdrawal of russian troops, they certainly do not say on what date in february 2014 in 2022, but in principle this is not so important because then they also asked a certain number of parameters that completely coincide with the peace plan of president zelenskyi , which means territorial integrity. well, they are so vain about respecting the un charter. and actually, i really liked it

. pultin fersteiner and they push ukraine to dialogue and compromises, and actually in public messages. and by the way, what you said, mr. shvoltseva, she was also equipped and acted. he said that they should withdraw the troops. let's say so. this is putin's way, the only way to diplomacy, that's why i like such a european. i didn't have any complaints about the american ones. and why do they talk about it, probably a little. of the joint president of the united states. he actually asked the ukrainian authorities to start talking about the readiness of a potential or such a hypothetical victory with putin, because some in europe say, well, he is over

we are suffering here without end and yet it is different. it seems to me that this is exactly the line that shows the constructiveness and against this background of the crimes of putin, and also the statement of the minister of the ministry of foreign affairs of france yesterday about the fact that they work with european partners was important on the issue of the creation of a new tribunal or a new structure or the crimes of the russian federation. this is an extremely important thing because the french and, in principle, our western partners in general. they said that there is no need to create something in addition, we have an international criminal court, although they absolutely understand that putin cannot be tried there, that he and all the other millions . but this is a positive thing, and also literally the day before the statement was made by the leaders of the european union, where they said that they supported each other, that is, in principle such belligerent

oppositions are uncharacteristic of them, and i think this is absolutely well, what is needed, oleksandr, in addition , you did not insert the question into this list, and these persistent conversations that ukraine will be accepted into nato after the victory over russia, is that how you deciphered the statements of bukharetsky or otherwise, because well, there is too much good news if all this is combined with the franco-american relations, the conversation with putin, the scholz, and so on and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on, and so on about the fact that ukraine can count on the fact that after the victory, ukraine will become a member of the north atlantic union, please, mr.

oleksandr well, you know, they could not say anything else, because to say that ukraine cannot and western civilization, it is applied on open principles, if you correspond to the club, then you can get into it, and therefore, of course, they cannot say anything else. a month after a year after 10 years because of course there will always be considerations of different currents recently we saw fears in european capitals of the possible use of either a dirty bomb or a tactical nuclear strike on ukraine now the situation is somewhat has changed, but it’s his slandering it in general, that’s what i would say, the candidacy is political, it will definitely be preserved, but there have been

tectonic changes, first of all, the posture of germany, and despite the fact that we still have uh, there is something to complain about, to criticize them a little, but they are already enough they do a lot and are already picking up such a pace, you know, like a rink, they have already picked up speed, they are going, this is an absolutely positive thing, but just before the broadcast, i saw that in the end the european union agreed to $60, how is such a limit the price of russian oil, is this news at all? i don’t know, i would say yes, i don’t know how this restriction works, because there are different nuances . yes, for example, will he buy cheap cheap russian oil ? these are putin's projects for his big mistake and this war, from which china suffers primarily and you are not at the

current moment and perspective, because we see that the united states is reviewing the approaches it has to protect taiwan and other allies in that oleksandr, tell me that now russian is cheaper for you by $60. that's why the problem is so, so, to the baltic, i don't remember in which batch of russian, er, it was like 48 $, er, that is, now they insisted that it was somewhere around 30 very well considering that the brand today's price means that in the end the europeans cut their teeth and all that was left was to pledge others, primarily those developing countries, and during or during the soviet times we did not call them divorced cases because they certainly very often and biologically they share

views more than putin and support him in that, well , whether it's a zno or really, but it's an absolutely positive thing, and again with an eye on china, too. because all europeans have now started thinking about it. thank god , how are they dealing with russia how they help ukraine, it will be determined by how it will behave aggressively, whether it is aggressive or not. and china and actually they will work out, including certain techniques, how can you consult with him, thank you, yes oleksandr harav, you were with us serhiy rabskyi the military expert talked about diplomacy about military affairs now again about diplomacy about nature eh stunki ivana klympush-sensadze, people's deputy of ukraine, head of the committee on ukraine's integration into the european union, we are in touch with ms. ivana good health thank you for finding it's time for us on friday. so oleksandr

kharov has already talked about how he liked this press conference, er, biden, macron. and in general, these conditions put forward by biden. and what do you think of the current attitude of the west? i think we are all with you. absolute witnesses of historical events when the west finally first wakes up, travels and secondly prioritizes its tasks more clearly, understanding what and how they will do and, in fact, begins to eliminate and put forward conditions for russia as the aggressor of this russia as a country that is trying to finally destroy the international er, the legal agenda, in general, for the laws, the order a-a did you like it, of course, i want to understand biden’s words exactly in such a way that they say he is ready er to talk with putin only when he decides

the decision regarding the end of the war, well, for me , the end of the war is in the form of a--namely, the withdrawal of all your troops, namely the clearing of our territories, and then it is possible to end the war. i want to think that biden is exactly this way - he understands it, as do we, mrs. ivano, see the last days yes, indeed , such heart-breaking events are taking place. it is definitely not possible to talk about the unconditional surrender of russia. but such an unconditional victory is not a victory for russia. well, we can see, if we believe and translate the words of the nato leadership in bucharest, that ukraine after victory will have every chance to become a member of nato, this is the last of putin's demands, and there is no expansion where it is sent. well, in short, we know all these demands of putin , and now the supreme council meets all the demands of ukraine and the

west and partners and friends show their apologies and this is finally an understanding of that that all these demands have nothing to do with the cause-and-effect actions that the russian federation and putin are resorting to, because it is becoming clear to the world that this is not because nato was going to expand. then it decided to attack with such ferocious force and on such a scale of ukraine, but the reason is completely different, that he wants to restore his a-a-m-m empire in russia in some form, that he wants to destroy it and prove to the world that such a people as ukrainian simply does not exist, there is no such coffee as ukraine, it simply has no right to existence, and this is the awakening and understanding, the beginning of awareness. by the way, it is not yet complete, but it is

part of, say, the understanding of various political elites in the west. but the beginning of this awareness that this is not a war for territory, this is a war not in opposition to some possible expansion of the world of democracy. and this a war of a completely different kind, but this gives us the opportunity to hope that all those words, all these statements that are heard today, that are repeated, with which the leaders of the eu, including the head of nato, the leaders of individual member countries of the alliance, speak about the fact that ukraine has the right to claim and can count on future membership, and this suggests that there is finally a sober assessment of what russia is like and what are the real grounds and reasons for its war in today's war, in which we keep the number p ivan, watch very often

ukrainians, especially in the first half of the war, criticized the west not very quickly, lethargically, not quickly, but now it seems that it works in favor of ukraine, because this mess is my question. so if you say they began to understand, it means that this drift towards understanding will continue for a while, that is, to imagine that tomorrow they will change their mind again due to their stubbornness, the stubbornness of that moment, then you can rule out such a possibility until you reach them for another six months, and this means a guaranteed six months of support and more increased support. am i wrong? well, it is certain that any bureaucracy, in particular, the bureaucracy of the same european union or the north atlantic alliance. it takes a certain amount of time to turn around and act like this,

but these are the changes that we see today and they only implement these pragmatic practical things that our partners do in support of ukraine and political statements in economic support and so on. obviously, this does not allow us to relax. you and i must understand that every day we have find additional arguments, details, fantasy that we should provide societies that determine the behavior of politicians who represent these societies in a democratic world - this is exactly how it works, and the russian federation also does not lay down its hands and it does not fold its hands and it tries to continue to promote it through and useful idiots and because of the bought cossack exiles and because of their own bribes of individual political

figures from mainly marginal political forces in various countries of the world is trying to continue to promote has its own agenda and, unfortunately, so far it has been successful in some countries in asia and africa and latin america, and therefore for us the task is still to convincingly keep the world on our side, obviously we want to count on the fact that this is the first time in history ukraine, and how many times in its history has ukraine cried out for help, for recognition, for opening its eyes, from the famine, from the first world war, from the declaration of the first attempt to declare independence there, and so on, we were mostly not heard or ignored, it is completely different history is a different time and different opportunities for ukraine to

stand, endure and win mrs. ivana, i can last question we have literally a minute and a half and what do you think? you often go abroad , talk to different people, with different diplomats , politicians, deputies of different parliaments. and there is an understanding that you need to be more vigilant to treat russian and pro-russian forces, these bribes, which are written about from time to time by these useful or useless or useful idiots, as they are called simpletons - i always say that half the world and newspapers write that there is influence there there is money there, literally, they grabbed the hand and then nothing, that is, the impression is that the european sablesh simply turns away and says no, we see this, maybe something is already starting to happen in the european law enforcement agencies. well, we definitely see a completely different approach, we definitely see as well as a change in

behavior even as politicians who, unfortunately, only a few years ago were singing to the tune of moscow. it 's good that they are singing differently now, because it's already a moveton, but to be on the side of evil and to be on the side of imperial barbaric terrorist russia is well, a serious breach and in the behavior but again, i would like to emphasize that all this still requires a lot of serious work, and such work that would be coordinated from the side of citizens , from the side of the state, civil society, parliamentary diplomacy, and these things must continue to be exposed report and report to the public to the society but at the same time, of course , we also see certain actions of law enforcement agencies