because the alliance, in particular, the leading members, such as the united states of america, well, germany, even about which we had certain doubts, france and many others will unrealistically lose crazy amounts of money, maybe it is somehow not recorded in the nato budget at the moment, but it goes to the point strengthening for, well, first of all, in fact, the victory of ukraine in this war and for strengthening international security , primarily in the european region. of its capabilities, today we are talking about the updated strategic concept of the alliance, the place of dispersion in this concept from er, let's say partnership, you can remember a year ago, well, we can a little more

, there was this charter about some kind of partnership, the nato council of russia would exist and hold meetings by the way i was a witness to all these meetings, all of them were there, let's say, the mission of ukraine was brought to russia. well, there were dozens if not a hundred diplomats , including military ones. if you compare it with the same mission that i headed, there were five or seven diplomats were literally there today, the doors are practically closed for nato, for russia in nato, and everything has changed. i think that a period of sobriety is coming, or how to say addressing it, and there is no feeling that nato seems to be waiting a little for what will happen next, because correct me if it is not so. well could you give us a pdch or not until the war is over,

why not, you know, this is a mantra that has been heard for a long time, 2008. by the way, i was part of the delegation of ukraine at that time, you were from bucharest, when were you accepted no no no well it wasn't enough to make a decision that the provision of ukraine will expire, and when the countries known to us, also in germany, france, spoke against it, well, look, here we go again to the example of sweden and finland. they join nato without the police. for some reason, i think that uh, for us after the victorious end of the war question let's say, as i said before , registration of our membership will be secondary. and it seems to me that we are going through the stage of the pdc. now we are going through it in the active phase of the war with, well, how they

themselves considered themselves the second world war, but that's why what kind of support is there in order for there to be mutual cooperation of the armed forces of some kind of military equipment? i think that this is all being achieved today on the battlefields that are unfolding between ukraine and russia during this war. so, it seems to me that the the most urgent problem, the problem was and will remain a political issue. that is , the acceptance of ukraine into nato will depend on the political will and the opening of a political solution, and not on whether we will go or not. there, the caliber matches them and the radio frequencies match the nato radio frequencies. thank you, volodymyr, for such a thorough

answer . may end up in nato after the victory over russia and when a political decision will be made, your forecast will we be full members of the alliance and have the ukrainian military not proven its strength and maybe we need to rally around ourselves instead of waiting for them to take us to nato, this is a military-political block, well, that is, the military component, today, integration is taking place as, again, my colleague rightly said . these military parameters of cooperation are also conditioned by political decisions, but the whole decision that this is a political decision is not too much, it is the

political decisions of the nato member states. that is, this is also a very important moment because nato in every way they are also trying to avoid a direct collision with the russian federation. well, just like the russian federation. actually , the story of this missile that fell in poland was very telling. well, when the first russians started shouting that it is not us , they have been here for 9 months saying that they are at war with nato in ukraine, and as soon as their missile fell on the territory of a nato state, they immediately gave such a backlash that it became frighteningly short, how consistent, principled and fearless they are, anu, now they are again telling that they will fight with nato labor, and it’s another matter to actually fight or to find yourself in a territorial perspective and to fight, and there was also a demonstrably opposite reaction. yes, when something was also someone lacked some evidence and that this is an insufficient basis or this is not obvious and

in principle it is correct well, because there is a proportionality of the goal and the means to date, that's all, that's all, only ukraine is sufficiently effective in solving the issue of protecting its territorial integrity, state sovereignty, eh, definitely with the help of western countries, but at the same time, as zelensky correctly said this is not charity on their part, this is an investment in their own security, then of course this format is completely acceptable. valentina, the stalemate is that russia tried to fence us off from nato in every possible way, and they did everything for this, and on the contrary , they did a full-scale invasion all in order to shine because the status quo existed before, it is clear that this status quo was not legally recorded anywhere, this is the rhetoric that i did not produce about the fact that there is supposedly some agreement that at the time of the collapse of the soviet union and the socialist camp of the warsaw pact

, there was supposedly an agreement on the non-expansion of nato to the east, but they could never show the document because it simply did not exist. well, yes, but it was not legally formalized, but everyone understood very well that russia has a lot of tools and levers for that to make ukraine's entry into this block impossible. well , urban is just one of the swallows, yes, that is, such orbans, if it was necessary, they would find more than enough for them, eh, this is one moment and another moment, i have repeatedly said being a permanent a supporter of euro-atlantic integration. i always realized that if our position was based on our desire, yes, that is, to join nato, ignoring russia 's intentions. because they really believed that russia is a superpower that can actually create a lot of problems

, that's why for them, when the scales were on the one hand, there was cooperation with ukraine, on the other hand, cooperation with russia. well, they just looked at the map it's banal, and it's for gas fields, for russian money , for russian oligarchs, for russian corruption , all this money that came in corrupted the european political elites. well, that is, when they had, roughly speaking, one thing is another, the prospect of cooperation with russia seemed to them not the same and bad. that is, it was a mistake, and to this day they also realized it. but nevertheless, for many years, they were quite comfortable to communicate with this corrupt, criminal, anti- lyuski, anti-humane regime of putin, but everyone i really liked taking money from his hands to finance my political companies

. let's take a look. by the way, i voted for the recognition of the russian federation as a country sponsoring terrorists. those who voted against were representatives of the right-wing , essentially fascist, political forces. actually , that's all. well, who finances who is behind all this? and i tend to think that because of the many terrorist movements around the world behind which they stand, iran stands, the russian federation stands, and somewhere they are standing next to each other. perhaps that is why all this is leading to that russia violated the status quo at that moment they thought that they would now violate the status quo and then change it to their advantage, that is , a new status quo would be formed that would be even more comfortable for the russians, but it so happened that they violated the status quo, and now they will not be able to restore it even at that level on which it was before it was violated, therefore it is quite obvious to me that the question of acquiring membership in nato is currently resolved and the question rests exclusively on chronological e-e boundaries and how

to say the search for the most acceptable format i i doubt that this will definitely happen before the end of the war with russia, but there is one more nuance. and how will this war with russia end? well, that is, what will happen to russia, and how will the post russian space be framed, relatively speaking, this is the post russian space. well, it will really turn on a number of other states, will there not be any new security threats in this connection for nato member countries? that is, we look very narrowly, we look only from the point of view of our own prospects, obviously the most interesting to us , but there the world looks and thinks what will happen next it appears that they are slowing down because it is more convenient for them now such a russia is projected as terrorism , many small russia is over, well , with putin's regime, everything is clearly over , that is, there is content in this regard, other people with whom we will somehow have to sing 140 million will not go anywhere,

a huge territory there are no such questions japan existed after the second world war new ones still exist japan and germany existed after they suffered a catastrophic defeat in the second world war well, moreover, in 1989 they even united although yes at the time, there were many opponents of such a decision . there was a lot of fear of permanent germany. some of our international partners are talking about victory in a different format. now we will talk about it and then about the effectiveness in which they can be in the near future. german chancellor olaf scholz called on vladimir putin to troops from ukraine, this happened during a joint telephone conversation between politicians, the german side told about it, according to the results of the conversation, the negotiations lasted about an hour, and the main topic of the conversation there was a war between russia and ukraine, it is known that scholz condemned the rocket attacks of the occupiers on civilian infrastructure in ukrainian cities, he also emphasized with a quote germany's determination to support

ukraine in ensuring its defense capabilities against russian aggression end of quote schulz and putin also discussed the world food situation and the continuation of the grain agreement they agreed to maintain contacts, in turn, the kremlin also reported on putin's conversation with scholz, but on the calls of the german chancellor to end the war against for some reason, ukraine and the terror of the civilian population in moscow remained silent, instead, putin accused the western countries of supplying the ukrainian army with weapons, mr. valentin, negotiations about which there are now so many discussions, what they should be and whether moscow should dictate its terms, does not dictate its language, and they do not have resources in order to dictate them, and it is very popular for them to explain that today there cannot be any settlement of the conflict in ukraine without respect for the territorial integrity of state sovereignty

of ukraine and without punishing the guilty at least, and in view of the decisions approved with russian money in europe and the world. yes, when part of it is confiscated and handed over to ukraine for reconstruction, i tend to think that any peace in the future is possible only on those principles about which the president of ukraine has repeatedly spoken point one is the restoration of the territorial integrity and state sovereignty of ukraine within the internationally recognized borders second is the prosecution of all those guilty of war crimes crimes and crimes against humanity, well, the third point is ukraine's entry into the european union and obtaining a security guarantee in this context, i tend to think that it is not only about the kyiv security compact, but also about the acquisition of membership in nato and the fourth points there. what is the next one? is the reconstruction of ukraine and it is clear that

this reconstruction will take place largely at the expense of the state, which caused all these destructions, but when the russians will mature to the point of being ready to put up with this well, then we will be settled, but i am fine i realize that this will not happen until the political regime in russia changes, there is one more point that should also be mentioned. russia must be free of nuclear weapons. this was stated by the secretary of the national security and defense council oleksiy danilov . this is the fear that russia will disintegrate into many countries and all of them will have nuclear weapons. how realistic is it to take them away? well, we know another - a superpower that was actually much more powerful than the russian federation, which many countries fell apart. well, it had nuclear weapons and nothing, and there is no more of this state, and all attempts to

restore it there are a prophecy in the following countries . terrorist russia with nuclear weapons, which it brandishes , threatens to use them, putting into question the existence of this world. well, that is why it is said about the nuclearization of the russian federation or the post of the russian space under russian conditions kazakhstan gave to belarus and ukraine did not come at that time of the war, wait, this question is very simple and ruba, do you want to get state sovereignty? you don't want to get it, if you want to get it, then you can and must fulfill certain prerequisites for this, that is, if someone thinks that tomorrow on the territory of russia, in fact, a bunch of subjects of international law may appear who will possess nuclear weapons, well, it's just uh, well there will be no such inadequacy. that is, one can doubt whether there will be

any subjects of a state in the territory of post-russian space or somewhere in the territory that will keep nuclear weapons, then hypothetically such the scenario can be assumed, but it can be assumed that there will be no more such subjects, it will not be guaranteed, that is, where well, when not where well, the colorization of that space is inevitable, again, i was engaged in pressure in the soviet union, well , bilateral agreements will be signed, well, they will be again i tend to think that the un will also be reformatted. well, if the post of russian space will be reformatted, it is clear that the question about the russian federation in general should be asked, at least as a permanent member of the red security, llc. that is everything will be fine, this is an option if they talk about depriving putin of this nuclear status. he can no longer resort to blackmail. and there is nothing to lose before actions. i always know that

as long as a person is alive, there is always something to lose, and people are creatures that sit 30 meters away from their own interlocutors, yes , in order not to accidentally get infected or something, so that you don't get pricked with some needle with a podoza or something else, don't go dead like a moth yes, a dude with a nickname can, in principle, it should die like a moth so why? i am leading what is actually a beautiful book is a movie. it seems to me that the author is a well-known savitologist who wrote pro-russian autocracy and always money. in fact, the level of autocracy was greatly exaggerated because there is always an environment that has its own interests and that the first a person is just a figure. that is why it is necessary to understand that putin may have his own interests, his entourage may have different interests, his entourage may have third interests, but while they converge, the key

question is so far 10, so far, 10 months. the second world war lasted from the 39th year to the 45th year, and there was the hundred years war, there was the seven years war , there was the thirty years war, that is, their yachts are simply the lord's, that is, they lose their leverage , they can lose money that is frozen, but nothing prompts them to tell putin that enough is enough or finally use a snuffbox here, and we don’t know what they’re talking about. and we’re not. i can’t be sure that they’re not looking for various ways now, they want guarantees. a historical parallel, but let's remember how many cossack uprisings there were in the history of ukraine and how the lion's share ended. part of these uprisings was that the cossack foreman simply surrendered his helmsman and at the price of surrendering him received even more land. valentine's guarantees should be given by the west and

i'm not sure what of course well, but i am not sure that all these people will be able to receive these guarantees, many of these people are the same prigozhyn well, they are doomed nightingales skabeeva semenia yanu this whole shenanigans they are doomed they will be answer well, and in their place to answer eh in the legal field, this is an optimistic scenario because i tend to think that they will bear responsibility outside the legal field, they will simply be cleared by their colleagues what they will say , well, do you want the heads of these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these . the russian state is ready to accept your terms was formed when the russian princes of the great suldersky well russian conditionally yes that's how you hanged we they were not yet moscow yes there

southwest eastern russia crawled crabs in yurts to the mongolian e these khans and there they took turns i ended their history their history they can their textbooks their own to open and read and asked that there is a rhythm to the reign, they cannot forget the idol of nevsky alexander and that in fact he finished the uprising of his own brother andrii and arranged no in the lviv pogrom yes the so-called kolikhan came and raped and killed everything in those territories. here he is, at the price of suing his own brother's rebellion, who wanted to get out of the power of the horde, well, in order to get this label on the princess and have the right to demand his subordinates, he was ready to that 's why i'm doing all this, it's not only about nevsky and

not only about russia, in fact, this is how this world works and it has worked like this for many years, and is there a certain part of people in the russian federation today who would love to fight for the throne and in order to get this right to the throne, get a legitimate right. yes, because you have to legitimize it, they cleared it. it's simple. and as you wanted. well, if you just put yourself forward, you'll be slapped right away, but that doesn't mean that there are no processes in this environment. you saw the film, it's very revealing, eh. stalin's death, british, which was banned in russia. by the way, i don't think it's comedic, but it was practical to watch because i looked at the conditions in which my ancestors lived. that is, these are terrible conditions when there is no way to provide some transparent trances, you must it was definitely worth watching the movie, but it’s just that the atmosphere is conveyed in a very cool way. how much is this under-the-carpet struggle? by the way, one of the american political scientists at the time said that the

struggle for power in the ussr is like a bulldog fight under the carpet. nothing is visible, just from time to time corpses fly out i would say yes, we cannot exclude the fact that today the russian establishment among its political and economic elite did not have enough lively and complex processes, the purpose of which is to reformat the russian of the political regime, and it is clear that for that they must agree among themselves and must agree on this issue again with those subjects on whom the further development of events depends on this, well, soberly realize this and i will repeat that everyone these people, on the one hand, understand that they can be just as destroyed, yes, do you remember how the classics of english literature in the russian language are quoted by the poor, they can run out of luck, then it is

called otherwise, then it is called there, i know the revolution is a legitimate variable of power or is a japanese saying that in the case of victory it is the government troops and in the case of defeat the rebels yes or there is a cool other story here so i'm sorry, you know when molota met for dynamo and told him how come you germans are such a civilized people and have led to what you have hitler, to which adenauer replied, i don't know, unlike you, i don't shake his hand, so, unfortunately, there is not enough time in our conversation, literally two minutes, and you mentioned the duration of wars, in particular, the second world war, each of us has something for ourselves such an internal deadline, when we say that the war will end, then we understand that we do not know definitively when it will happen but nevertheless, do you have in your mind this period when we will finally

defeat russia? every day it is about every minute of every second we are getting closer to this date i would just like to say and why do we call these wars thirty years old or seven years old or centuries old because these wars were based on a certain conflict a certain issue that could not be resolved for many years and only when it was filmed there, then the war stopped and really turned the page there, therefore, for today, one must understand a very simple thing, this war is being fought over the unwillingness of the russian federation to recognize the fact of the existence of ukrainian of the state, that is , until it is recognized, this war will continue forever. and i will repeat that the current political regime in the russian federation cannot do this because they have already forced themselves into such conditions when no longer it is about ukraine there or the penetration of the territory , it is about their physical survival, yes, that is, how can they now be let out of this story, because they

are ? two wars, roughly speaking. yes, this is when you and polisska got a request somewhere and you need a little time to regain strength, so no one will allow the russian federation to regain strength and start another war, which can be even more terrible and bloody and with much worse consequences. only for ukraine and for the whole world, because the historical lot has already been cast. that is, it is, well, in principle, everything there already, as it were, the estonians are inclined to hide behind the mountains or there in the ocean. well, our task, you know, the last phrase literally once a student asked a master about this, he said to the teacher: how long do we have to wait for changes and he told him if we wait, it will be a long time. yes, if we wait for victory, it can be

a very long time. then this victory will come sooner, a good point for our conversation, and you know that in the russian federation we will remind valentin glykh, we had a short pause in the studio, immediately after that, a news release, vera sverdlik, kostiantyn linchevskyi in the studio, and immediately after that, we will return the light of freedom in the dark times of history 300 years since the birth of grigory skovoroda

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