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to ask well, where is he, that is, he simply somehow disappeared at the front, that is, he did not go to kherson region, and it seems that he did not end up in donbas, especially what happened to him, it is not clear, well, it is the same now, actually, some actions, movements are taking place at the front. and what is this it was specific, we will find out there only in a few weeks from the joint general staff, so i, as a civilian, would also urge you as vaccine journalists to especially comment on where our army will go and what will happen on the front, oleksandr kovalenko, a military-political observer, an observer of the information resistance, was with us and we are moving on, says chernivtsi, the head of ukraine's parliamentary assembly of nato is in touch. congratulations, igor, well, first of all, you are discussed, after all, the results of the bucharest conference, nato, have we advanced or remained where there is, if you really
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look at things well, looking at what to evaluate, if we are talking about providing us with electricity and e-e assistance in restoring our energy structure, then we have definitely progressed like that if we are talking about our membership so far, of course, there is no final solution, but we are gradually making progress because many countries are changing their opinion from skeptical to practical . what should ukraine do? nato secretary general jens stoltenberg has a high regard for us as a precondition for our membership in the alliance that we must defeat the russian federation. and do you think this is fair, because no demands were made on other countries , everything was about reforms there of standardization to nato yes to other countries and they did not
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fight with the russian federation and other countries no no the russian federation did not attack right away the question is that there can be no membership if russia wins, we understood yes here, in principle, it is quite logically simple logical sequence and this is precisely our victory. i think that it can be considered a full-fledged military coup that we have been waiting for so long, which in principle we no longer need, yes. and this is exactly what we emphasize that in this way we will prove that we are capable of becoming part of nato and becoming a real the biggest defender of the eastern plan, and our partners within the alliance understand this, so i believe that very little time will pass between our victory and our happiness. yes, but when things come to some kind
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of real story, they will say no, everything can be here, we cannot exclude anything, but i see from the rhetoric that the approaches to the general assessment of ukraine's future in nato have changed, because if to until february 24, there were such completely skeptical countries that, i don't want to say that they did not notice ukraine, but somehow they treated our future actions in a cool way and paid a lot of attention to the russian federation, now, for example, if you pay attention to the programmatic article, let's say yes, steinmeier , the president of germany, yes, there is such an observable, significant, tectonic sum. in their politics, in their understanding of the world, the understanding of who is a partner, who is an enemy, even belgium
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yes, there is the old europe, which recently signed a memorandum of our support, now there are more practical questions, how should ukraine become a member of nato, that is, with the pdce without the pdcs, some specific reforms with the achievement of the standard there, and so on, but i do not see absolutely such an opposition that ukraine should not be in nato, well the results of increasing the supply of weapons for ukraine, which specifics did you hear mr yehor, what kind of weapons are the air defenses talking about - this is the main thing that we emphasized but at the same time, we understand that we need supplies and artillery and tanks and all this was also discussed at the meeting, ah, no details yet, but the understanding of the nato member countries that ukraine needs to be
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helped to win is there. position that ukraine will help as much as is necessary for our victory, i am here somewhat because the usa somehow or they answered this question ambiguously or interpreted the changes correctly, if you look at the reports, in fact there is no a specific quote, will the usa still provide the patriot system, or are they not considering this issue yet, how did you hear it for yourself? the main thing is that we will now talk about the united states, because, uh, recently there were a lot of accusations in germany that it does not transfer to ukraine and here you need to understand that the arms market always has the last word for the manufacturer, the country of manufacture, i have not yet heard the decision of the united states to hand over petri to us, although we have
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from the very first days of our war when we asked or demanded to close the sky we also asked and here are these all petre systems, they are very expensive, they are very complex, they are integrated into the e-e security system of nato , and so far no decision has been made on it, but you know, there is a crack in this wall that stands between us and the petrivkas, it is definitely there, and we are working in principle, to talk about the fact that the russians are paying attention to this nato activity can be considered such a real attention to the fact that in moscow they began to threaten nato again, to say something may mean that even a non-nuclear conflict with nuclear states can lead to catastrophic consequences, sergey lavrov even proposes to write a text for an agreement to be prepared by
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inter-nuclear countries that exclude such a nuclear war. i think that these are all preludes to the negotiations that the kremlin so wants, but actually on the terms that they put forward, because these are unacceptable terms for us, because they understand that they are failing in a commercial war and now it is again trying to pull out from under it all this trump on nuclear uh nuclear threats. but if we look at the history even from the 20s to the second half of the 20th century, when nuclear states fought with non-nuclear states and lost this goal without using a nuclear arsenal, then russia too understands this and russia understands that it cannot actually use this nuclear arsenal because it has received
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quite clear signals from the united states and even from china and india, so they are trying by all means to intimidate and blackmail somehow they are trying to come to an agreement in order to influence us so that we sit down at the negotiating table and somehow not get out of this war, well, at least with some kind of conquest, but it won’t happen and they understand it. that’s why there are still chaotic attempts to pressure, blackmail , offer something among the issues discussed at the summit was also emergency aid to the ukrainian energy system, yehor, what was the question about financial aid, equipment aid, maybe military aid, within the framework of anti -missile and anti-aircraft systems, based on the capabilities of some countries
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countries can help physically, i mean you with the same transformers that their companies produce in some countries, some countries simply help financially so that we can buy the necessary e-e parts for the rapid repair of our power system, and they are already on their way, even before the summit of this the only problem with the transformer is that there are these large transformers that are located near hydroelectric power stations or other stations. they are still according to soviet standards and it is very difficult to find exactly such ones in europe that are manufactured in others according to slightly different standards, but we are working on by the way, recently your colleague from the faction andriy gerus stated that even with all the equipment and help that the event provides us, we will not be able to 100%
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restore the energy system of ukraine for now or until the end of the season, he i meant and i don't remember verbatim and do you think it's possible to increase it then this assistance or so we will remain with this situation well here is basically the problem as you just described that because the transformers, uh, increasing the transformers, they don't are already produced in order to store them in warehouses, especially those that we need in ukraine, that's why every time a contract is signed, these transformers are contracted, they are produced for several months , then they are transferred there for some time, they are connected, adjusted and so on, and so on, i think this is exactly what andriy meant when i spoke about the fact that we will not be able to now with all our speed there or with the help of our partners because there are simply no such transformers physically. well, we
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know that we had the zaporizhzhia transformer the factory also produced, but it is now unable to produce, so we are looking for places in europe where we can. and how do you see this intensification of conversations about whether it will be possible to talk with russia if it stops the war with ukraine, and it will be possible to return to the pre-war order. this is what the federal chancellor ofsholtz well, to be honest, he interpreted his words in a slightly different way because he said that if russia withdraws, it will end the war and withdraw from the territory of ukraine. it is absolutely clear that reparations must be paid, all those guilty of war crimes must be punished . well, all the territories must be returned. this is such a basic package that we demand
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the end of this war in general. a week ago or a week and a half ago at the nato programming assembly talking with many delegations of bilateral meetings in germany and france, italy, the united states, i did not hear from any of them, although i was ready to hear some calls for reconciliation or concessions or something else no, absolutely clearly, everyone said that you yourself decide when, on what terms, and with whom to negotiate peace, or to start these uh after work, so there is no pressure or any change of position. i have not seen it yet, and when president biden , too haiputin is saying something, stop the war and we will talk to him. well, i am saying that we will
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talk to them, we are also talking about the fact that we are ready to sit down at the negotiating table when we leave, when it is not even visible when the russian federation will withdraw from all territories on the border of 91 year then we are ready to sit down and record the whole process and start discussing the schedule of the operation, for example , or the schedule of the transfer of these war criminals to us , well, that is, the fact of negotiations does not mean any territorial or other concessions. by the way, sergey lavrov recently denied attempts to agree with kyiv and conduct some negotiations in general, although earlier the russian federation there from different mouths and their negotiators expressed such positions mr. igor perhaps you have some information as a representative of ukraine authorities directly that russia tried to talk with the ukrainian authorities off-record without intermediaries,
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there are no recent ones, as far as i know, the last negotiations were in istanbul, they were hacked, you know what they ended up with, in principle, nothing more, that is, the signals are coming from them. i understand that both official and according to them social channels and they are trying to put pressure publicly, but the conditions they put forward regarding, conditionally speaking, to bring him to prison crimea or donbas or even crimea donbas plus those occupied territories that they have already introduced the so-called the constitution is in an absolutely unacceptable language, so they have no continuation. the people's deputy of ukraine and also the head of the permanent delegation of ukraine to the nato parliamentary assembly were in direct contact with us. well, we are moving on to the next ones, there are our guests, the ukrainian writer andriy vasilyev, a well-known podsudalion dorshtyn, i have
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been working and living in the united states of america for many years, and an-zor mashhat is a public figure, the son of the former president of the republic of ichkeria, aslan maskadev, greetings, dear friends, mr. andriy i greet you. good evening. so, we will start with this topic , which is now many. well, what surprised many, but became so resonant, is the statement of pope francis, who suddenly, speaking about the russian army , specifically singled out other peoples of russia. here they are russians or a number of chechens are the most brutal in the russian army because that they are not a russian tradition , that is, there is a humanistic russian tradition, er, i will tell you to rape while covering your face with a towel. are there any other traditions that are less humanistic? andriy, how did you perceive it in general, because in me i you
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i'll be honest, i had a special conversation a few months ago with representatives of the free fight foundation, in which we tried to debunk this myth that russian propaganda, by the way, also creates about the fact that the most cruel soldiers are the buryats, the buryats do it all, and the poor russians they only look at them, they grab their heads, they talk about the mobilization of russian variations , about how they actually depopulate the villages of boljak in various autonomous districts, no no, not only in the republic they are fighting well, because the fucking people division in russia into several subjects of national residence and now, suddenly, it is no longer russian propaganda. and the roman intelligence officer says this, how did they perceive it ? more precisely, in the interview of the pope with vizovsky water, and first of all, i really
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believe that this fragment of the interview of the pope is so, he is russian, but the second point is no less important that in reality there are no buryats and there are no chechens and russians what are these buryats who, er, invaded the territory of ukraine with weapons in their hands. this is a product of being brought up in a proper russian culture. there is absolutely nothing buryat there, there are no culture and such traditions to rape, kill and er, invade another territory. that is, what happened 800 years ago . let's omit it, but in modern buryat culture and now, well, it simply does not exist on the territory of russia, in fact, the language is dying, cultural traditions are dying, and the bryan culture has survived
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for now only on the territory of mongolia on the territory armv and in klumbir - this is china, that is why talking about buryats a-ah i won't say anything about nogche now, but talk about beets as the fact that they are representatives of their nation there and please, there is absolutely no buryat nation at the moment and those buryats who invaded the territory of ukraine is entirely a product of russian culture. hmm, i emphasize russian culture. by the way, speaking of the legs, am i familiar with zelenkhan and darbiev, and at the beginning of the zeros, he is a highly educated person, and i would not say, for example, that there are also murders in the tradition of the night there are holocausts and the like, it's not for nothing that the very nights tell us not to confuse us with the kadyrovs. these are completely different phenomena. don't call the kadyrivs the
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chechens. it's me. call the kadyrovs nomchim, too , and i would say don't confuse the real buryats, who are there, and those monsters, hmm, who are leaving to the territory of ukraine andor, in fact, the whole story of the chechens, who differ in a crypto-personal way from russian traditions, this is because we remember everything during the first and second chechen times. this was the isolation of the russian propaganda . russian conscripts who are tortured by chechen terrorists, and in general, terrorists everywhere occupy the whole of russia and threaten the russian people. that is why our actions in chechnya are justified when we destroy chechen cities to the ground. it sounds like the pontiff is another story. yes, of course, after we found out what that was
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and the interview, it seemed like in an american store, that’s what i did on my part. the appeal of the roman pope to him, and by the way, he reminded us that in the history of the conflict, that is, wars, that we were evicted, we were killed, and more than 300,000 civilians were killed in our two last wars, and of course we worry about our people for the sake of our people and we don't want anyone to hang labels on us like that, i call our peoples, it will be the buryat people without distinction, the yank people, and we call them what these peoples are considered brutal. there are no brutal people. breath of cruel people, all peoples want peace, but there is peace
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er, among us all, they all have er, er, there are such kadyrovs, and the buryats have them, and the russians have chechens everywhere, too. that’s right , they emphasized now and said that they are not chechens at all, and they do not represent the chechen people, these kadyrovs are putin's foot soldiers, they are ready to spend their lives for putin, and these are traitors to the chechen people, we despise them, we want them to be punished one fine day for the crime in ukraine for the crime against their chechen people, and just recently we contacted each other through our channels uh, with the office of the pope and in general they told us that there was a mistake uh, what was said was that there was no uh, the people, this is the people of emil, their own to this force that represents the russian federation
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well, of course, we want such people it will be the pope of rome. it will be the leader of some other country. in relation to to the ukrainian people of the federation at the words of the pontiff , because the russian ambassador to the vatican suddenly spoke that nothing can shake the cohesion and unity of the multinational russian people, and maria zakharova got confused herself . in the early 2000s, we , that is, the russians, were allegedly told the exact opposite, that it is the russians and slavs who are tormenting the peoples of the caucasus.
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now we are told that it is the peoples of the caucasus who are tormenting the russians . we must be perverts of the truth, says zakharova. that is, she admits that after all, russians must be the peoples of the caucasus. what do you think, mr. andriy, and what do you think among the buryats, for example, the most die in the war, and with ukraine, do you not consider it a certain ethnocide of the kremlin, the kremlin, because ah, for a reason, ah, buryatia and dagestan are the leaders in terms of losses, the fact is that it is a consistent policy of the russian empire to do bloody things with the hands of enslaved small peoples and uh, this ethnic group is a consistent policy , starting with the russian empire, then this policy was worthily continued by the soviet empire exterminating my people through famine and sea repression
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, this policy is now being consistently continued by modern russia, sending hmm mainly to the people of little -educated villages of zburyansk uluchens, sending them simply to the slaughterhouse. they are not specially and forcefully driven by the fact that they are forced to go to this war for many reasons, the first reason is extremely low education, here we are talking about the fact that the buryats are the buryats who are dying in ukraine in ukraine this is a product actually in russian education and this is a russian product, secondly, it is the financial side, they force their decisions force to create such circumstances that these
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poorly educated sections of the population actually voluntarily join the people of the terrorist russian army and go to do their work, so -called yes, yes, this is ethnocide. i consider it ethnocide. what do you think, mr. andro from egypt? in principle, what is happening now is understanding the experience of the chechen war. do you think that ukrainians now understand the chechen war better? by the way, i wanted to correct you. this is the russian chechen or russian membership, the ukrainian war, in general, yes. i see interest and i see that ukrainians understand what is
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really happening what do you need to dig into the history, look into the history of m. warriors with other peoples against the chechen people against georgia, that's because today the russian army is doing exactly the same thing that it did before on our land. that is what i mean about today's war in ukraine it is the same there are no other methods or other tactics in russia, that is, they drove people away. that's how you excuse me, like a herd on the wallpaper, and this is the mobilization that we just recently talked about . the war in ukraine in 2014, i once said at a rally that i was close to ukrainians, that
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today it would be better to study our war, the war against the chechens, and then it will be clear to everyone that we are dealing with barbarians er, to which the conscience or nobility lived in general, they do not understand this and do not know that it has never happened , well, these events are what, when this year, the russian troops began a large-scale offensive, and their atrocities in such settlements as bucha, gostomel, irpen , mariupol, and others in the cities eh, it was eh in our country and in the chechen land, too, the russian army acted in the same way in relation to the peaceful eh inhabitants, that is all ethically eh, everything is the same. i wanted to discuss with you in
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sweden forum of free peoples post russia in particular, there will be representatives of tatarstan and crimea, the ural republic, karelia, cherkasy, siberia, the kuban, the pskov republic, etc. in order to discuss what will happen after russia collapses. so they will talk about the independence of their republics directly. and do you think that this does not annoy the kremlin, first of all? and are there among them such protest movement hmm i will probably disappoint you, but in fact i don't see any signs of a protest movement, for example, in buryatia, the percentage of support for this tourist war has dried up, and i emphasize that those so-called buryats, i emphasize again , are entering members of the russian tourist
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army. they do it voluntarily on a voluntary basis. i monitor the local press and what i see is a rather high percentage of support. for example, i broke off relations with my relatives because most of them are products of russian i am quite skeptical of any pseudo-liberal or pseudo-democratic movements , even among my people, because i am a small one and i really don't like it when i am counted among them because it is wrong. they represent russia in fact. this is a product the same with russian culture and i am still very skeptical about it,
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after i can seriously consider this movement and after the russian regime collapses , but it will collapse far from under the influence of these so-called liberal movements, yes, the influence of ukraine was heard, yes , yes, international and international partners, we can ask how he is, why the forum is healthy, he believes in such a general resistance. uh, andrey says that he does not really believe in the effectiveness of such meetings in official protests of sentiment. the stake is for the battalions and legions that are on the front lines today

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