i am skeptical about this after i can seriously consider these movements after the russian regime collapses, but it will collapse not under the influence of these so-called liberal movements, but under the influence of ukraine and the pressure of international and international partners, we can ask how it is explained with to this forum, he is healthy. he believes in such resistance in general. once again, you can listen to the question . we talked about this forum of the free nations that will be held in sweden, and now andrey is saying that he does not believe it very much. the effectiveness of such meetings in official procedural moods. i also support the opinion of our interlocutor. well, i also don't believe in that. who would i bet on today - that's what the battalions and legions that are on the frontlines today are fighting against ... of the russian

occupiers as well as a competent approach to those er groups or um let’s say they want to perform and dagestanis want circassians and georgians er, that is, they are already starting to create their own movements what was the name of this battalion named after shamil's mother? they created it in ukraine, here's placing bets on them. that's exactly. that's the power in which i believe that something can change, but with russia itself, that 's it. i don't believe that they'll change something, it won't happen now. i also wanted to ask you about the kadyrivians, despite the fact that legally you are not subordinate to the national guard. and why do they still receive the most modern weapons? and all

that ammunition there is what is needed for war and why are they so well prepared. if i understood correctly, it should have been in russian. excuse me. tell me please, i will repeat in russian. why, why? why ? there is a beautiful uniform, there are bulletproof vests, helmets , expensive weapons, special weapons. well, what is inside , yes, inside, there is a very, very cowardly image, you can say that, even people are not called them , who betrayed his family, which he stands for

for the killer of the chechens of their people, that is , for putin, that is, the traitor, there is no idea except how to get money for money , the dying die for putin, for the killer of the chechen people, these are not soldiers, and we have been talking about this for a long time. they are what you call coders eh they are prepared and prepared eh beatings torture eh here are their own chechens this is how their army was built these are unreal wars thank you our program well, we will come back for a few seconds with vitaly

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against freedom, it is only a swamp hryhoriy skovoroda polyglot teacher mystic scientist happy anniversary hryhoriy savych we remember, we honor, we study, we continue the saturday polyclub program anzhelika sezonka and vitaly portnikov in this block, the program will talk about such topics as poland wants to annex ukraine, such a fake of russia at least exists, we will discuss why russia creates such ridiculous arguments, we will also talk about that this week some unknown blood-stained packages with animal eyes were sent to a number of ukrainian consulates in europe, why are they scaring diplomats , let's also talk about the fact that the ukrainian

authorities are finally trying to get rid of the moscow patriarchate in ukraine through formidable departments, what methods can be used to do this, let's talk about this topic, vitaliy and let's start well, we didn't really wait for this moment for a long time. i think it's because it's been known for a long time, at least during the war of russia against ukraine , for 8 years, what the russian was doing the russian church in ukraine. what do you think, why did they only now begin to activate this process? it is connected with some kind of boiling point, that it cannot be tolerated any longer. or is it possible that somehow the parishioners of this church now have less opportunity to resist ? something is changing in the mood of those people. who make decisions, and we also have three societies. so, in the end, we are talking about people who make decisions, but in one way or another, these people are expressions of public sentiments. in 2019 , we clearly said that in principle, providing tomos to the orthodox church of ukraine is a

civilizational event that can be compared to the declaration of ukrainian independence, and this civilizational event that in one way or another allows us to hope that ukraine as an independent civilization is not just a state, as a civilization that is even more important, it will still exist. this is the political pre-election project of petro poroshenko, i will tell you a secret, the independence of ukraine can also to some extent be considered a political pre-election project of leonid kravchuk leonid makarovych really wanted to become the president of ukraine, using the fact that on december 1 they voted for the act of independence and voted for the president of ukraine, and he tried to combine these two

events in his election campaign. the tent of the declaration of this independence on august 24, 1991, when i was thinking, he says that there was no clear shot, he had in general a former friend, the secretary of the central committee of the communist party of ukraine, the second secretary, this is no joke, you understand and here he is you can say that he won in his pre-election campaign, which does not mean that we did not need independence, what a cunning kravchuk he deceived us, even if you agree that for petro poroshenko, tomos was an important part of his own political image, but if every ukrainian president has such i would said that grandiose decisions are part of a political image, then the president should in principle put up a monument to leonid kravchuk, that's for sure petro poroshenko, a living person can still make a million different mistakes, but i'm just telling you, although it's obvious that every politician has huge claims. this is the first story of volodymyr

zelenskyi being surrounded by those closest to him. of the patriarchy, i am married to a russian citizen, as you know, i always say that i do not judge people by their passports at all. i do not consider myself to be being a citizen of the russian federation is some kind of sentence or diagnosis, as many of our compatriots think, but i still think that if you have a wife who is a citizen of russia and russia attacked you, then at least they should refuse this position. well, let him work as the minister of the meat and dairy industry higher higher milk is also an important part of our social life, but not there, well, what do you want here, and then there is another very important point, the underestimation of the connection itself, and i have always been interested, not even from the 14th year, but in general, what does this country look like

someone is running in some search there, someone was searched there, something was found there, we have an entire korets monastery, which is known for the fact that its abbess, many years ago, back in soviet times, had a serious quarrel with metropolitan filaret, who was the smell of ukraine at the time, and was then a member of the holy synod of the russian orthodox church. well she quarreled about what it was. as it always happens in circus communities, they did not write letters to each other. the patriarch did not like it. this monastery belongs to the russian orthodox church, this monastery has nothing to do with the ukrainian orthodox church at all, just nothing, this is a specific moscow monastery on ukrainian soil, in 2021 patriarch kirill

appointed a new abbess of this monastery, but there is such a thing that you simply cannot find, how do you understand it ? a monastery that is directly connected by a direct wire to the patriarch, that is, he is in charge, this is the next figure in authority, this is the patriarch of moscow well, you could at least inquire, but matushkevich, are you doing anything there? and who does she even meet with? well, i'm just curious, now they came with a search after nine months after the start of the war, and speaking in the words of comrade skabeeva, what were you doing all summer, and so about everything when there was this the holy synod of the ukrainian orthodox church and then the cathedral and they said that they are already independent, although

this is a complete inhibition because from a canonical point of view they cannot be independent, in order to canonically become independent they need to decide whose canonical territory of ukraine do we think that constantine is poplar, they think that moscow, if they think that moscow, they should at least turn to patriarch kirill with a request for autocephaly, how did the latvian autocephalous orthodox church do it, they think that moscow has a canonical territory vlad, he is not constantinople news appealed to the moscow highway with the fact that they want to be an independent church, the older orthodox church, which definitely consists of ethnic russians, asked for autocephaly to two old believer metropolitans, one this metropolitan in braille in romania, this is the ancient old believer metropolitan, the first what was also created in them is the exarchate in white krynytsia here in chernivtsi region and the second one is moscow, they wrote him a letter, we want to be an independent church because we cannot have

any communication with the moscow church. everything is written in this letter. the old ritualists did not even write these words about the war and the responsibility of the hierarchs. i tried. by the way, i will tell you honestly that i i would correspond with him, i will not mention the names of these priests, because it was my private scaffolding. well, how private i wanted to meet with someone, for someone to come to me on the air. explain, everyone refused me, i did not understand again. what are you doing to me , you praised such a decision, i give you the opportunity to tell all this, i am absolutely not going to deny you your information. tell me what happened at the cathedral. there is something to hide as a person absolutely. speaks to high hierarchs with high hierarchs and all of them start running from her as if they are crazy no no we can't we won't come because it is obvious

if if this statute has not yet been made public the people adopted the statute at the cathedral supposedly where the statute can be read in this statute they moreover, they say that they refer to the charter of the patriarch of moscow oleksiy ii well, the charter of oleksiy ii, unlike their charter, this secret can be read there, it is clearly written that the ukrainian orthodox church is inseparable part in russian if you refer to this letter, it means that you admit it, you must cancel your attitude towards this letter, you must say that this letter is no longer valid. for you, you did not do it, now the question arises. which i would like to know, would you like to find this question for the investigative service, facebook is an organization that has a canonical center of influence of the russian communist party, but they needed evidence, the question was, what can be done from a

legal point of view with this story, e.e. the president gave an order to prepare a law for 2.2 months, now there is a law that has already been proposed by deputies of all factions of the verkhovna rada, it can be adopted in a few days, and it means that now obviously they will not what about the people's deputies, especially the majoritarian ones, who are the voters who are the parishioners of this church and what to do with them, what if you consider the interests of these people and believe that these people have such attitudes that they support this real from the center from the center from the center from the center with the center in moscow, you can safely draw up the deputies ’ powers because you can say that this state simply won’t exist, why won’t there be deputies of something that doesn’t exist or you want to be ukrainian deputies maybe some of your

voters are collaborators but you have to fight with this or you have to honestly tell yourself that this state has no prospects, here we are, the deputy signed that a couple of people are falling from here, remember, well, such valits well , what did they say here because because there will be no prospects, this state will lose in any case if you believe in the victory of this state. you should fight together with the president. by the way, for its spiritual independence, if you believe that this state still exists there in the last months, why are you sitting here, give your cheeks if you are a people's elected representative talk to the voters, prove his arguments, why our people's elected representatives are used to going for too much and who lives in the world of propaganda, and the task of politics is to lead people along without paying attention to their superstitions, because all the big problems in politics from the idiocy of citizens who are not obliged to understand this, by the way, who should be guided by their

er-e choose so that they professionally decide why is an important moment er-an important moment in this in this story angelica is that there is absolutely no need to delay for months, i mentioned such things about latvia. this was the initiative of the president of the republic of lanka, who clearly said that he is absolutely not going to interfere in the affairs of the latvian orthodox church. he simply says that the latvian orthodox church cannot it is impossible to have a religious center in other countries of aggression in the russian federation, and the parliamentarians in a few days approved this and the latvian word, well , if we can't, we have

to obey this state's law, we held a council, announced our legal independence, and the most important thing is that we must demand demand from the russian churchmen that they or you either remove the cross, or it will not even be advised, dear bishops. they should clearly state if they consider ukraine to be the canonical territory of the ecumenical patriarchate. let candle makers will stop holding on to their money , all this bullshit. during the war, you will also start negotiations on unification with the orthodox church of ukraine. they will send a delegation to constantinople . preservation of the autonomy of the ukrainian orthodox church since the autonomy of, say, the russian orthodox church abroad has been preserved in the russian orthodox church there are many models or they are not, we do not think so

orthodoxy considers ukraine a territory, but we do not, but then there must be a clear appeal to patriarch kirill and a demand to provide autocephaly. and then, if patriarch kirill refuses, there is an opportunity to appeal to constantinople again, but with the preservation of the idea that this is a canonical territory. does not want to enter into a constructive dialogue with a part of his church, that is, in any case, everything will lead to constantinople to bartholomew, but this is a question. which way do they want to go there, the way of truth through konstatopol or the way of lies through moscow, but they don't want to go anywhere, it seems that they just want to hold on to their chairs, to their expensive cars, houses and all their possessions, what kind of people didn't feel this shot, why did they go there, all these people of soviet origin, for whom

the priests worked, it was exactly the same thing for others to become komsomol activists, by the way, many komsomol activists then ran there with their eyes put out. in one of the dioceses, they found child pornography in the hands of the clergy, which they filmed themselves. this is today's news. well, very big questions about their professional activities in the family eh you are not without freaks eh that's how they behave. we 've seen such ministers all the time in the catholic church in any church. corruption

of minors is a criminal case depending on the article is absolutely human well, i am not talking about the fact that somehow, well, it is not very good when you are a priest and all the time you are fighting with lgbt people and same-sex marriages, and you yourself have a successful marriage and this one lives peacefully in his cells with a family life, this is what i would said to a young man, but you don't give it to others. and what is the problem here? why do they behave as if it is bad, bad, and they themselves are considered the norm ? well, why ? to themselves why are people getting into trouble? because people are immoral , and by the way, we always said, oh, haha, immorality is of this type: when you say one thing, you think the second thing, you do the third thing. it always leads to a bloody path. a person has to be completely honest with himself when he

takes. even those around him understand when he kisses his partner on the cheek and runs to the state duma to vote for banning lgbt propaganda, then this is the next act she approves of war. did you see this by the way, it’s a great picture when this propagandist krasovsky well, he’s open. hey, you’re cooking something. we’re not going to talk about some people from putin’s entourage who don’t admit it, it’s their exercise, and in krasovsky he openly talks about his sexual orientation and him so they said about how he called for the killing of ukrainian children that he needed you to come out in support of the anti-lgbt law and he sat there and that's how and that's how everyone turned away because of course you have to do, but you understand, the last time

i saw such a disgrace, and here again, the way these two people are fools is always a straight road to war. when i was a child, i watched a meeting of the anti-zionist committee on tv of the russian soviet public, it gathered people of jewish origin, what they they told me what a terrible state this state is in israel, the jewish state, how it would have to be destroyed. i looked at them for a long time, and it was interesting. you will talk about all these horrors. you are practically betraying your own people . the conscience of the people is obvious that you have some kind of relatives there, you will come home, and how will you look at yourself in the mirror later this is already beautiful, and the cossack dima is a cossack from this entourage of putin, how does he look at you, now let's say among his people who are from his native village, well and there is no light, the truth is, there is no normal life, it can be cold, as he would be fine, he is there, sitting there in a luxury dacha, he lives for these bloody rubles poo avalya

matvienko well, of course she is an alcoholic, an immoral person, but that too well, she is already there... e lived in different in ukrainian cities, they have acquaintances there. you know , these rockets do not allow all people to live, they know them personally. and i, this cross, can these people be remembered, and what about this idiot, lord mitinsky, the former minister of culture of russia, an illiterate person who was born in ukraine, nothing at all i went to my grandmother in smila, she speaks now that there is not a single ukrainian word, uh, despicable, i have never heard such a thing, although smila always spoke in ukrainian, believe me , grandpa from smila, i know about smila, how about people are talking, she is, and it means she is also going to the talks on behalf of russia. some of you have it with russia and you. how come you have no conscience about such traitors with ukrainian roots. i am not talking about traitors with ukrainian passports, all this

bastard medvedchuk yanukovych yakimenko this azarov bastard watermelons, now it means that all of them ran away, this kiva shmiv, well, this one is generally sick in the head , there is nothing to talk about, you have a psychiatrist , uh, we don’t have punitive psychiatry, luckily , then this rabinovitch ran away somewhere. who else is there, me? i don't remember this whole hop company, this voloshyn , you remember because you oh, i remember how you mean he was already the press secretary of this hryshchenko of the minister of foreign affairs and he told me about it oh and so it is important for us to resist from russia, because the water to us such a threat and what a threat and how do we find out what the war will be? he got into our own car and drove to lukashenka, and petya simonenko ran around all the moscow boutiques, there he

arranged shopping for himself with russian money. symonenka is trying to figure out what it is and it can be told about everyone so and so here are people like one means he made a harem of boys and votes to fight lgbt propaganda and the other means he is ukrainian by origin and means he is fighting against it in order to destroy ukraine , he goes to negotiations with russia, threatens to destroy all ukrainians, the third there, a jew by origin, thinks how to destroy israel, it is some kind of panopticon, i would make a special museum in moscow, and you would be there, then when they die, i would bake them all it would be like mummy and he would bring everyone there specially, that's what it means, a gay who fought with gays, and it's jews who fight with jews, it's ukrainian, he fought with ukrainians, look what they said, it 's absolutely necessary to leave them to be

exhibits, it's an exhibit to people were watching them, there was a pin, it was valya matvienko, and so on. so the hairpiece, the hairpiece, can be redone every day , and then, by the way, you can also make a wax figure of this cossack there , but you can plant a wax figure of him, but he himself lives in his native village, right? you will bury this abomination. yes, the earth will arise a hundred something so incredible about the absurdity of russia and ukrainians in russia and russians directly, you just mentioned and demonstrated to us clearly . it's very simple, it's very about it, there's such a logic, or little logic, it's so double, i'll say, that means ukraine is an artificial entity, well, artificial, artificial, because it's actually the territory of historical russia, and which lenin made

ukraine for some reason, it's unclear why, probably very wanted to do something bad for the great russian people. then a good question arises, well, if this is the territory of historical russia, then what does this territory have to do with the territories that were part of the polish-lithuanian commonwealth until at least the partition of poland and then became part of austria-hungary and then part of the republic of poland? well, here there were, of course , general brusilov's troops during the second world war, but not long enough to say that this is mother russia, although i don't know russia. they say that kaliningrad has always been russia because there there were troops for a couple of years, the film marshal suvornoy, well, it’s surprising that they don’t apply for stage cards and for switzerland, suvorov is already there, too, with his soldiers, that you could go straight there, but they, as usual, the russians, went around. and you can also say that andermatt is a russian city well, let it be

said that it is strange, then there is transcarpathia, which was part of austro-hungary, then czechoslovakia, then again occupied by hungary, then when the russian union liberated it from the hungarians, instead of handing it over to slovakia the carpathian region was included in the soviet union. well, well, you know, the majority of the ukrainian population was there, so it was not invented, and bukovyna, well, it was never part of russia either. well, that’s logical, because then we have to say that we are not reviving russia historically, but conquering the territory of foreign countries is correct then we say oh let's all these