played i welcome you to the studio of the espresso tv channel, the key question is the visit, the strange visit of president tokayev, the president of the newly elected re-elected president of the republic of kazakhstan, to moscow, a good question, so we have such a thing in kazakhstan. that is, he strives to embrace russia from the other side, uh, another misconception is that he coldly treats russia with putin and avoids the test of interaction from russia, both opinions are of the same kind, in my opinion, a delusion, such a fairy, er, today, independent politics cannot be talked about, that she is,

er, pro-russian biote russian, she is very vector- like, as he is many years old, in relation to the international plan, so here he is talking about something to know the direction in that direction led in the same direction . central asia today strives by all measures

to bypass the territory of russia in the supply of energy resources. it is well known that at the present time an intensive study is being carried out honestly with the european states of the european union. eh, the current direction is promising, it is very important to bypass it, this is how they say repeated sanctions against the state, which can somehow help to elect bypassing the sanctions of russia. voprosakh, that's why there is no clear-cut movement. such a movement is in the direction of russia, and today it is being raised that the defeat of russia in the war with ukraine is blowing away, and he, like many other european states, is pursuing this policy in the interests of his own state, but

they are, mr. general, but on the other hand, we remember very well how lukashenko tried to implement a similar policy, talking about diversity and so on. not to mention the murder of the minister of foreign affairs of the republic of belarus makeya also raises a lot of questions, well, first of all, we need to focus on the personality of vladimir makeya, this is the person closest to lukashenko, as we know, this is probably the only person in the circle of lukashenko who was not afraid to communicate with him, he was very close practically, when we look at the relationship between the various ministers of defense, the kgb of

belarus, internal affairs, and other structures of yours, we see how much these leaders are afraid of lukashenko, they cannot return him to express one's own opinion is clearly visible in all the examples. all of them are similar to this scumbag who was shaken by the crossroads. this is such a map of the leaders around the dictator. it is absolutely not independent and cannot claim any independent status. political movements, it was precisely in this that vladimir differed from the whole environment, one cannot say that he was not loyal to lukash and purely about western positions, he had a corresponding position and he had a european tactical direction

but this is absolutely not what he did not talk about. but it is precisely his independence and the ability to build a relationship with lukashenko personally, with lukashenko , of course, on the old russian federation of putin and all the power structures of russia, and you know, in my opinion, mackey is very similar to ours who is the former minister of foreign affairs and he built with er dikator nazarbayev. these are the same relations. how were they built with lukashenko? the positive attitude of lukashenko and mackay, the selection

of mackay from the whole environment certainly worried putin very much, i think that o-o-o, to some extent, on the eve of the defeat against ukraine, russia putin today is thinking about the post-war period, first of all, of course, russian. how will it be ? a political situation is developing in russia, well, first of all, of course, in belarus and kazakhstan, they play, they are not interested in the post-war period after the partnership, just as in kazakhstan, he would apply for the post of leader of belarus vladimir makeev, for putin, this is certainly a terrible option that is already happening, therefore, first of all, russia

was interested in the fact that makeev did not continue to influence lukashenko in any way . dear mr. general as for the instruments, we understand that similar instruments were used not only in the time of the medici yes, but also much earlier in the current situation, we understand how many different chemical laboratories and the story with the newcomer, so to speak, is a certain proof of this from the other side. as far as i understand, the key task in the current situation, if poison is used against powerful, influential world players, it is to make the death look natural for those

deaths that are numerous and abroad . several deaths of positional politicians in russia and attempted murders of the same mass left a more serious imprint on the methods of terrorist activity of the russian special services federació they will not wash away from this and all the death of political days that we see putin, our dam of the souls of russia, they lead russian politics and which in the future we can occupy some serious political positions in

the same belarus in the same kazakhstan, first of all in russia, of course. but, no, they are recognized as objects. such an attempt cannot be made now . today, it is impossible to cancel the possibility of the murder of vladimir makeev by the special services of russia, especially since the special services of russia are in belarus. sebya s remember the easiest contacts with the kgb of the belarusian ussr, not that they lead the state security committee of belarus , they lead the ministry of defense of belarus, and other good structures in these conditions, it is absolutely easy, even easier than that, to drain such a terrorist influence on the territory of russia. and this is the most likely version of the idiot vladimir makeev how

does the protocol regarding such threats work in general, we understand that the leaders of not only belarusians, but not only kazakhstan are similar, in particular, we are talking about president tokaev, but also primarily about the representatives of the ukrainian political community and possibly the polish political community, the infiltration of agents into various structures, these states that you have listed, they certainly have a place and there are many of them, i say, and this is a fact when, er, it means, er, i moved to austria in europe, the so-called coup d'état, which did not take place in kazakhstan, is possible in 2008, in 2008, fsb officers carried out an attempt on me in the park, here are these

documented facts. the austrian and european press, that is, the special services of russia, all of their fathers are asking. will these terrorist acts in relation to various political er-e concerns of er-e europe, central asia within er-e russia, and you will not get anywhere from this er-e activity will continue yes just as in belarus, in kazakhstan, of course , there is an elaborate network of e . robkov i would say that the perspective of the knowledge

will be greatly expanded and otherwise what you are talking about anton will be an attempt on various figures of the neighboring country of russia who do not like the russian federation in one world or the other, hence the ambiguous behavior of our presidents of the central attitude of the asian republics, russia is of course afraid. of course there is a threat of such a violent terrorist influence on them personally, on their attempt on their life in such a situation. i think that the role over such by private structures like dude wagner, there are still others in russia losing control, of course, a serious threat of leakage of

powerful a-a taxis has arisen already today in such private structures, this is a threat to russia, and i think they should take unfortunately, the governability of the russian state will tell the day that the handwriting is falling every day. these are the structures of this chauvinistic terrorist direction that are already without control, to a greater extent without under the control of the russian leadership, the russian state, the fsb, toxins, as we know , are located

to a greater degree. we just saw this revealing moment when the prigozhinites sent a bloody sledgehammer to the european parliament, and this is actually an extremely serious story, i.e. the prigozhyn group, a criminal formation , a terrorist formation, so involved in the war against ukraine it also appears on the european market, so to speak . are controlling the situation, first of all it is about patroshev, about bortnikov, and perhaps, as

the classics would say, by joining the windows to the ryzhkinan tours, which had full and extensive power over the whole of russia. i mean, it is gradually in because of the war in ukraine, it is losing its role, and above all, it is the assessment of ukraine 's ability to inflict a serious defeat on the russian federation. are recognized as more serious, more serious threats of destabilization with everything within the russian federation

. will cut their computer system, penetrate it not only into it, but also as he said. oh damn kidneys figuratively, all this is pr, eh, beautiful, in order to enter the international arena, this is his personal desire, and it is absolutely not controlled by the russian federation's own structures. this can be seen from the fsb can't make emusements that this is the time, so there is a certain front of the war in ukraine, africa is there, and you shouldn't lie , that's exactly what we should say, first of all, putin himself and the fsb, however, they don't have enough anymore nil

not the actual levers of influence on these terrorist structures, yes, this is a more serious threat, first of all, to russia, ukraine will certainly cope with this war, and it is undoubtedly visible in all parameters. and the threat of human activity within russia. своего статуста внутри россии, well, since the second, they simply always thought that the same patrushev was much more powerful and could use some of his unconventional means to influence prigogi on because the mechanism of the fsb is much more powerful than that of

putin's cook, many still believe that , uh, patrushego bordnikov of the fsb has more influence and opportunities than prigozhina. mezhdunarod e-e actions are beautiful in the international arena and within the country at the front, the criticism of the ministry of defense that came from his mouth and the attack on the fugitive in st. petersburg is talking about the strengthening of terrorist structures here to grow within and today, if they don't take action, it means that the beauty will be removed, then it will

develop further, like a cancerous tumor, already by all indications, putin will be removed in such an opportunity. eh, in the form of a cook, his former cook, now, in my opinion, it is not under the control of the president of the russian federation, this is a difficult situation for russia. putin wants to untangle it with the help of this confrontation internal disputes in his bunker, and on the other hand, we understand that in russia this or that open coup does not happen, the use of i don't know these or other toxins due to

the fact that putin is paranoid about his own security, nothing surprising has already become a legendary story about him so to speak say a fecal suitcase that follows him from the other side, we can see at what distance he communicates with his closest friends security demand eh says that power structures eh solve the demand there state coup today eh very unlikely as we said in the previous conversation eh forces of the same fsb eh of other eh special services their influence on the political life in russia has weakened today. they can organize some kind of countermeasures to

other forces. the same is allowed. some of the generals of the ministry of defense are kadyrov. they are interested in security. but they don't see their own strengthening one's own self and his hands means supporting one's own growth one's own influence on the political life of three parties and as we can already see outside the russian federation in these conditions the threat of such a coup d'état against putin no, but various structures feel that putinism in russia is suffering a crying defeat, they mean, they

are trying to wait out this period, many have heard that many influential political figures have left russia . the front one is this curl, these are the people who have been forced out of the country, who will be able to prevent the influence of these hawks. what do you call those sentient people who surrounded and embraced putin from all sides today, putin is in such a cocoon what are there ? when the hawks don't let the hawks blow to one side or the other because of the desire of many people to separate russia's political circles for some kind of peace talks to end the war with ukraine, they are

torpedoed in every way by these things. by hawks and terrorist -directed politicians, eh, and even putin, if he wanted some real negotiations to restore relations with ukraine and to the benefit of his troops, he already has that, i don’t, in my opinion, there is no time to change this direction although it would be a salvation for him, and the capitulation of defeat in ukraine will be the cause of his political and possibly physical death.

the direction is moving. as for the war in ukraine today, everything will collapse, disappear, or something will definitely happen after the capitulation. military terrorist structures can certainly seize power. signs for this, if it is noticeable in all directions, will they be able to do it? she , the general would like to ask you how do you see now the current hit of the deployment of a military operation in the coming month and some kind of victory over ukraine , not putin, not russian politicians, they are no longer talking even the russian troops dream of standing up in such a

defense, they are building a revolutionary e-e in the donbass in the luhansk region in crimea, they are afraid of the next offensive of the armed forces of ukraine e-e in the zaporizhia direction, many people but these are these questions, you know them better than me the situation of the military strength of ukraine , therefore, by all parameters, if you talk about how it looks from the outside, it is clear that the defeat of russia is precisely one side, the second side, it would be correct to say the entire military potential the russian federal crane will continue the mobilization of the subjects with the remnants of the

weapons that they still have, and they will go to the territory of ukraine, so they will expect such a sudden thing that it is not necessary here, but most likely , in my opinion, they will be the next ones in the winter company there will be further successes of the ukrainian armed forces in various directions , and we will not guess here. as they say, but what about the fact that these successes will be seen by everyone, including the russian federation, they see this as a supply problem of the armed forces of ukraine, and the most urgent question for today, which is due to the fact that it is a corner, not only in the leadership, but it is a corner in europe, so it will be difficult to predict what will happen tomorrow,

but in the future, it is definitely a war it will end with the armed victory of the armed forces of ukraine over the russian army, thank you generals for this honest conversation on the air of the espresso tv channel, and i want to remind our viewers that general elmur musayev, the former chief, was working for them now of the national security committee of the republic of kazakhstan, the former adviser to the president of kazakhstan on national security issues, we are in touch with us from the following political scientist andriy piontkovsky, who is in washington. glory to ukraine, andriy andriyovich. i welcome you to the studio of the espresso tv channel. to the heroes of glory. good evening. anton bukharetskyi. the secretary general of nato - said that after the victory, ukraine will have the opportunity to join the north atlantic

alliance, at the same time we understand what is possible there final consultations took place, in particular, it is about the delivery of the next batch of fundamentally new heavy weapons, yes, and president macron decided to fly to washington. what do you think is happening now? well, i agree with you, it was very important . the statements of western drivers, well, which would have been unexpected not long ago, i liked that there is a road, especially one phrase, he said that the whole world understood, but how would he be embarrassed to say a rumor, but here she did it, he said in western society, he said yes, we will experience difficulties, you wouldn't be there, we pay the son, but we pay the price in money, and ukraine

pays the stage with blood, and they did not stop here , i continue that if ukraine enters and putin withdraws, we will have to pays a higher price, he told me that we would have to pay by blood, but that was the whole point of the statement. donets admitted that ukraine protects the son of its incredible victims of heroism through western certification from our membership. the eastern ort is very interesting. the formula was stoltenberg's formula, yes, the form of ostatonberg instead of parts has what he demanded of capitulation, well, at the same time, let's say that we will give back the due pants that he and the entire german practical

eyes of ours, everything can recognize this cannon error, all these years of politics, i want stein. it specifies the second point in that it is sometimes mistakenly called a bad zelensky, it is actually an ultimatum of the big seven on october 12 of this year, we remember that it is already after the beginning of the barbaric bombing of ukrainian cities took place in the big eight, in fact zelensky was a key participant, she accepted the statement in the cats and declared putin himself a war criminal and b is a completely good plan of zelensky, who put you once again underlining the requirements of the increasingly approved world and in four points i will remind you of the first victory of ukraine full of exposition theatrical values, the second guarantee is not for the security of ukraine for the next period after this victory, the third restoration of ukraine, economic in that for account of reparations levied on aggressive states and the fourth