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the author serhii kane came up with such a step as performing one of the pieces in the dark, we had a small flashlight at each point in front of the orchestra player, it illuminated only the score and the same for the conductor, but the whole hall was in darkness and this idea is very warm were received very warmly in the orchestra and received the same by our managers, but regarding the hall, at first, only one hall out of four agreed, and then another hall also agreed, two halls did not agree because they said that they wanted a regular concert. - well, that's it to talk about some uh politics as they say, i don't know at all. that is, it is solidarity with people who are currently suffering without electricity in the
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cold, and this is such a gesture of unity uh, it's important for us, i'm actually in front of those two ah uh came out at the concerts and also explained why, uh, we perform this darkness, and in general, uh, what i heard in the hall about what i was told later, the audience perceived it quite ambiguously, that is, part of the people uh, understood, some of the people shouted out loud that it was enough someone's policy and the same applied to the implementation national anthem of ukraine, we end all our concerts with the performance of the national anthem,
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and let's say when we played it in stutgarka, i saw that the hall simply did not want to rise. now, when some part of the people rose, it was very slow, well, in fact, during the whole period, they would not rise, precisely because well, they came, they bought a ticket with their own money just to listen to music and they don't want to know about these problems at all, at least this evening. in general, they really like insurance, but the growth that has been observed in recent years in west germany, to me, the germans say that this
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has never happened, they really want to feel stable, they really want to work, that everything is okay in this case. what do they want to abstract from not hearing and not seeing? it is clear that you cannot completely insure yourself against this, but every moment when you can avoid these thoughts about the war and this information about the war, the majority of germans. according to my observations of course this is not a sociological survey, they try to avoid it like that well , it is understandable, but what is the truth, again, according to your observations, well, the opinion is quite popular that the germans as a people are very different from the german government, or at least that government of his views that were there for several months because the germans support the ukrainians much more than the german government, is it really so?
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i would say that the government actually supports the ukrainians very much, depending on but not before, that is german families turned out to be much more progressive than the government and understood much earlier that the government is here, if we are talking specifically about the sun, for example , dad, it happened quite late, but when we played in the berlin philharmonic in april, we were invited to a meeting with katrin gerin hector, who is the vice-pres of the bundestag, and it was an extremely warm meeting with a complete understanding of the situation in ukraine, the things she said, what the representatives of the green party said, they were like so these e-e speeches were prepared together with the ukrainians, i could not believe such depth and immersion in the materials, such clarity, and catherine
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berne neckhart, in particular, she helped us find the residence of the geria, she supported us all the time during this time, and i know many such examples when it was the german government that supported the ukrainians in the same way the question of the provision of weapons, therefore, i would not talk about some kind of a complete picture of the bundestag, it was not complete from the very beginning, it’s just that now was really a turning point, we passed it and we see that the german government already supports us. and what as for the germans, they are very different, they are constant, let's say, depending on the age of the family, they differ significantly, the western lands are absolutely regional, let's say, that is, you can't clearly divide the western and the eastern, and let's say, if we're talking about munich, bavaria, munich, our country is so simple, well, i don't
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know how many percentages, but the support of ukrainians is very palpable everywhere, take down ukrainian flags, ukrainian flags hang on all buildings, government ukrainian flags , the same in hamburg, too, everywhere ukrainian flags ah, in geri, for example, i didn’t see ukrainian flags at all, it’s a different story, but i actually didn’t see german flags in such numbers here, that is, they try as much as possible to abstract from all this, and here, of course, in eastern germany, people, especially those who, uh, lived in er, in soviet times, who studied at a school of russian language and literature, and er, who passed waste paper for the children of africa, er, and they tell me about it today, they have a certain nostalgia, which our pensioners also have, or our pensioners had here this is absolutely one because there were then better times why because we were younger and
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i don't know if something can be changed here, but we definitely need to work with the younger generation because usually these are people who are not convinced for some reason and here you can press and convince them in the context and in the real situation, not in the fact that the russian propagandist media actually spread it to me literally today, they dropped the information . there was an announcement of a tour in germany of the troupe of the ukrainian national opera with tchaikovsky's the nutcracker and swan lake, and before that there was also
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some kind of rush in poland in december, there will also be two types of nutcracker ballet with swan lake. in general, do you appreciate it when the ukrainians are now ukrainian musicians or ukrainian dancers going to europe in large enough numbers with tchaikovsky, how is it perceived? tchaikovsky - these are russian composers, if tchaikovsky is played there in ukrainian, or the ballet dancers are playing the nutcracker or swan lake, well, it means that it is somewhere one, some territory, how ideologically does it affect the germans, let's say, let's say i, for example, if we talk about my
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reasoning before a full-scale obscenity, i was ready to defend prokofiev as well as a ukrainian composer. today i completely put him out of brackets because it blurs the situation here, there is either black or white during the war. there can be no such thing authors, which are ours and yours, because then the question immediately arises. and what is the difference between and and for the germans ? this angle is a cultural issue. it is very painful . they do not understand it. the only such auxiliary phrase that i found when i explain one on one is, let's say but or in front of a small audience, why are we giving up russian music and why are we asking them to give up russian culture at the same time? i am talking about two
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things . please give space to the cultures of the past. now, give us a voice instead of this push of russian culture. yes, give a voice to ukrainian culture. they understand it, and the second point i am talking about is that we must respect our feelings if russian culture is not for us now. it is acceptable if we cannot get involved in this, then just understand us as a nation that suffers from russian aggression if we ask not to do it . just trying to speak especially canceling er from russian culture it is simply not accepted at all and because they have their own history er they immediately imagine how after the second world
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war everyone would stop playing german music , say or during the second world war and and uh, they are on, well, on this comparison, it seems to them that it is one and the same, and on this comparison, they begin to fence off russian culture, and since they would probably fence off german music and german culture, say, in the year 45, that's why superimposition of one experience on another experience, and the experience of unequals, that's actually what you need to explain to them , you need to explain what it is. the situation that is happening today with russia, aggression by the aggressor , it is not equivalent to the situation that happened with nazi germany, and the art that there are actually narratives that were promoted through this art and narratives that
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were promoted through german art and which, so to speak, were supposed to elevate a person, which were supposed to provide she has some ethical and aesthetic principles, but they are significantly different, but i would say so. do we still have an opinion about tchaikovsky, that it is wrong to give him to the russians? well, i thought that this position would subside a little, but it seems to me that there are still many people who say that it is wrong to claim that tchaikovsky is a russian composer, on the contrary, he should go on tour in europe and deliberately play tchaikovsky and explain that he is a ukrainian composer, as effective as it can be, well, we are talking here actually, about the whole complex of oksana liniv, which was at the beginning and connected with olanta and on her
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example . i answered your previous question. i wanted to say that first of all, as far as i know, this is not a troupe of the national opera. and these are, uh, separate individual dancers who don't even seem to be part of this troupe anymore, but uh, under the name yes so to speak, national operas travel around germany and for whom actually, well, jazz is the jazz business. yes, we are talking about it, and for me, actually, our uh, certain promoters also tried to talk about the jazz business . i'm quite emotional right now in these questions about tchaikovsky, why don't we play him, in fact, in ukraine a few years ago, a large collection
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of articles on tchaikovsky ukraine was published. this is not the first collection of articles on tchaikovsky ukraine. the pyotr tchaikovsky academy, which still hasn't changed its name. actually, let's talk about the fact that tchaikovsky was not played abroad, and at the same time, we are holding on to his name in the capital and in the main musical institution of ukraine . said here it is necessary, or that is, it is necessary to start with oneself and then demand something abroad, ah, my position is that ok, and tchaikovsky had ukrainian roots, he had many works on ukrainian themes, definitely not one and not two he is very much he wrote everything in ukraine, er, in a museum, in one of the tchaikovsky museums, tchaikovsky in ukraine, and he
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just traveled around, i don't know if it's all of ukraine. life in ukraine, that is, he wrote a lot of works in ukraine, and it is clear that the desire to appropriate tchaikovsky or at least a little of him is like this. well, it is very sweet and i really want to do it. actually, there are many hints about that that without ukrainian music, let's say, a russian symphony would not have appeared, because before the appearance of tchaikovsky, no one could write a russian symphony, because a russian long song was not connected with a german composition, as beethoven, for example, built tchaikovsky at the expense of the fact that
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he worked with ukrainian melos. he was able to connect it actually with the german tradition. he was the first among all russian composers. yes, there is neither dragomyzhsky niglinki nor borodin. but at the same time, if we look at the fact that tchaikovsky was one of the creators of this myth and about the great russian culture , i don’t know if we want to deal with such a toxic creativity. this is an absolutely colonial position, without even any nuances, do we want to be a part of this colonial history, well, i understand that some people want to, but not all of them. this desire
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disappears, but we literally stay there sprat minutes and you wrote on facebook that there will be some big event in vienna in may, uh, and about ukrainian music in the world, what do we have to say at such an event, in general, on this topic? what is ukrainian music now ? let's talk about the academic symphonic music, what is its place in the world context now? oh, this is probably the most difficult question for me right now, and i am approaching it from different angles, so i read a course of ukrainian music, uh, in three lectures, from dinosaurs to ours days and i'm in principle i write a lot on this topic, but somehow to collect this picture of ukrainian music in a complete
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way is still a long, long way, it is not going to be done yet we have a lot of white spots in this history we have a lot of repressed music lost, which must be collected now all over the world, and it is not only there the times of bortnian berezovsky, when scores and temperatures were lost, which are now found there in paris, london, and this is also the 20th century, and composers whose composers were sent to mordovia is uh, the scores of which were burned by their own colleagues and this is a terrible story that must be gradually restored and there is no one else to do it except us and what concerns in general how to talk about it how to implement it my opinion is that to begin with it should be created like this to say the golden corps, the corps of that
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music and which will definitely be performed on european stages, and these are definitely masterpieces, oh. first, we need to create. let there be 10 of them, let there be 10-15 masterpieces. well, there are so many, but we know for sure that they will shoot and we have to write them down well to perform and then already propose to another foreign team and in parallel with this to carry out own research activities, but now you can already name some names that can enter this top ten because well, we often talk about that new year's eve, well, most often, it's probably the last time that if we talk specifically about the german public, what is the most promising, what are the works that come to the first place for them? i would put the character of boris lyatushynskyi. and this is, uh, an outstanding ukrainian symphonist.
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it comes to germany, it is dramatic, it is very well built, which is very important for them technologically, it is just brilliant, and every time we play, let's say the third symphony of lyatoshynskyi, german critics ask us why we didn't know this symphony, they ask by the fact that she is actually worthy of being included in such a golden corpus of european music, next to silvestrov, for sure. yes, i would even put him in second place. and in germany, maybe not even in second place, because uh, for germany, let's say silvestrov a bit of a niche story, then i talked about revutskyi levko revutskyi, and let's say his piano concerto and second symphony. these are the works that fit very well
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here. the rhythms of his carpathian concert, hutsul triptych , that is, the music of e to the shadows of forgotten ancestors and other works, uh, they are able to captivate the germans, and they are also beautifully constructed, and we also play, for example, yevhen stankovych here, and it is also qualitatively done, you can also say with a german model in a good sense i like the music of this word, and i like it here, and i think that it is also very important to play bortnyansky's berezovsky, because it immediately broadens the perspective, it speaks of us as a nation that had its own the period of classicism and examples of classicism that can be confused in
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quality with western european classicism. and here is our example when we performed, let's say, maksym berezovsky's first ukrainian symphony, which appears in all russian sources as the first russian symphony. they even created the first symphony, and when we performed it at the paris philharmonic, the paris philharmonic... since we played mozart in the same concert, she accidentally signed berezovsky as the conductor, that is, in paris, they couldn't distinguish some people by ear, not because berezovsky wrote under mozart, and because it was a common era, because they studied a-a with the same teacher, and because then there was actually one common language for this era, and the fact that berezovsky’s piece sounds just as high-quality is great us plus this
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there was love, ice cream, musicologist and art director, kyiv, the simpsons, okis strike, which i will remind you , is currently touring germany and introducing ukrainians not only to ukrainian culture, but also to political messages, as we have heard, it is not always accepted by the germans, but we work because it is necessary to take care of what, unfortunately, we have not done for many years. and judging by my conversations with various people who are also engaged in cultural diplomacy abroad, we are slowly little by little and it works well, that's all i have. have a good night, a calm morning. all the best, he is a philosopher, the most outstanding among ukrainians , born in the village of chornukhy in poltava
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oblast. as if it turns gold, because it won't turn gold, comparing all the gold against freedom, it's just a swamp hryhoriy skovoroda polyglot teacher mystic scientist happy anniversary hryhoriy savych we remember, we honor, we study the forum via carpathia 2022 lviv december 3rd and 4th via carpathia during the war in defiance of the war about the trials faced by ukrainian culture during the war about losses challenges and opportunities for ukrainian culture halyna krug rostyslav derzypilskyi mykola knyazhytskyi bohdan tikhiholov leonid finberg iryna tsylyk via carpathia 2022 discussions presentations
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of the presentation of the stanislav vincenza prize follow the events forum broadcast on the espresso tv channel, the via carpathia forum live on december 3 at 11:10 a.m. and on december 12 and 10 at 12:10 p.m. our soldiers at the front need a lot of things every day, and that is why part of my life today is helping the armed forces of ukraine and i am very grateful to my colleagues for supporting me in this sport during the war, what is it empty stadiums without fans in the stands deserted sports halls and also destroyed sports facilities, our athletes lost the opportunity to train at home due to the war and were forced to flee abroad to
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prepare for future starts, those who remained with weapons in their hands heroically defend ukraine in this war is not satisfied with the second place of ukraine, we need victory, every support of the army saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory closer. greetings. good evening. i am myroslava barchuk - these are the names of the project of the ukrainian plan and the espresso tv channel. today we are a guest of stanislav aseeva . a prisoner of the donetsk prison, isolation and the founder of the fund for the search of war criminals, which is called the initiative of justice stanislav greetings good evening i congratulate you stanislav we will begin
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from the justice initiative foundation. today, i plan to talk to you in general about justice, whether it can be achieved, and about your justice initiative foundation, which you often call giaf deep just in nation fun. money of ordinary citizens for a reward for help in finding war criminals and terrorists. that is, you can go to the page of your fund, select a section, for example, sexual violence mh17 bucha kyiv region, find a list of causes, a list of criminals and contribute financially to the search and punishment of each
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war criminal personally, do i understand correctly, and how does this movement advance, how is the idea perceived, here is such and such such an initiative in society. yes, you wrote everything correctly in principle. every person, not even just a person, can also physical and a legal entity to make a donation on the website of our foundation, that is, when you open the first page, you see a general list of all those who are officially suspected of committing war crimes, this is article 438 if under ukrainian law or there are references to international law enforcement agencies, for example, the prosecutor's office of the netherlands, if we are talking about mh17, that is, under each surname of each person who is suspected of committing this crime, there is necessarily an official link to the official suspicion of committing this crime, and then there are two buttons, in fact, the first
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button is revort, that is, a reward that reflects the total amount that we have collected and the second button - it is here to the general account of the fund, they will be paid to a computer scientist for one of three things, the first is the provision of new crimes, new evidence of a war crime that is not yet in the official case file, the second is the transfer of the war criminal himself by anyone in any way to the state of ukraine, here are the details are not interested. the main thing is that this person is, so to speak, in the territory under our control, and the third is actually the provision of information that will lead directly to his arrest, for example, well , first of all, of course, we are also interested in his location the location of these people either at the front or in the occupation or in the russian federation, that is, at the present time , the most relevant information about them. here is the amount
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that has accumulated, so that through the donation, it will be paid for the relevant information, but it may not be all that is, on the website it is indicated before the number there is the word to, that is, it depends on the quality of the information, if it is, for example, there is an active phone number of a general who is wanted by our law enforcement agencies, of course we are interested in it, but this is definitely not the whole amount for well, for such a detail. yes, if it is directly information, it is decided subjectively by the members of the board of our fund, who are actually part of our team. that is, of course, we cannot post a general price for all important options, because there are actually many options and many cases and people who are on our website of different levels, that is, there is, for example , girkin, there are frigate commanders
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