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screens, generators, quadcopters, could i, a mother of three children, imagine that just like knowing the principle of operation of a diaper, i would understand the difference between an active and passive night vision device, did my wife know that i would buy my husband not shirts for work, but bertie and tactical glasses, i did not know but since 2014 we had to become volunteers because our relatives were on the front lines and they needed our help. everyone is still needed . even a small contribution to support the army can help, it saves the lives of our soldiers and our victory is approaching, the war is a terrible page in the history of our country, a life-changing experience, and people returning from the war change, it accumulates inside , accumulates, accumulates, and then it
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is just like a glass of water, so that everything starts to pour out, but the main thing is to start living a new life , not to flinch at the sound of an alarm or behind closed doors, psychologists play the role of a kind of bridge through which people are transferred from one side of the world of perception to the other. i give them life, this chair is about another side of the war in the film protect human bridges and live december 4 at 9:30 p.m. on espresso weekly saturday political club helps to understand the processes taking place in ukraine and the world vitaly portnikov host of espresso and invited experts based on facts give their assessment and forecast of the development of events want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch the saturday political club, saturdays are not espresso. i am iryna
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koval, mother, wife, presenter of the espresso tv channel. i am also a volunteer. our soldiers at the front need a lot of things every day, and that is why part of my life today - this is help to the armed forces of ukraine and i am very grateful to my colleagues for supporting me in this. now i walk through unfamiliar lviv, not kyiv. i go to an unfamiliar coffee shop and drink delicious lviv coffee. everything is alive and everyone alive in ukraine owes the army to the army . now, surprisingly, life and army are synonymous words in ukraine, because without the army there is no life, helping the army is helping life , help the ukrainian army and life will defeat death, each of you is a moss. even a small contribution
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to the support of the army saves the lives of our soldiers and approaching our victory good evening we are from ukraine vasyl zima's big broadcast my name is vasyl zima two hours of air time until 21:00 two hours of your time we will talk about the most important things two hours to learn about the war serhiy zhoretska joins our broadcast military summaries of the day and how the world lives what in the world will yury the physicist tell you for two hours to stay up to date with the economic news of radio operators oleksandr morshchyntsi he tells us about the economy during the war and new sports yevhen pastukhov is ready to talk about sports for two hours in the company of favorite presenters is ready to talk about culture during the war, the war or something else that many have become as if the weather may even give us some optimism ms. natalka didenko is ready to tell us and we will also have distinguished guests of the studio today volodymyr hryshko if everything goes
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well the events of the day in two hours, vasyl's big broadcast, winter, a project for intelligent and caring people, in the evening , naispresso. good evening. we are from ukraine. good afternoon. we are with the press and we continue the second part of our marathon. diplomacy about shchedryk, which today will sound far, far across the ocean in the united states of america and which will tell the americans not for the first time, by the way, almost a kind of déjà vu because well, i don't remember what happened 100 years ago, but it was already 100 years ago memory is not so uh years take their toll 100 years ago shchedrik was already heard in the united states of america and actually then they heard it there and reworked it a little into a uh carol which they know as carol of the bells carol of bells and think that this is their carol well, but the ukrainians have it again
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are reminded that er, almost the most popular song er christmas song in the world takes its roots from ukraine er composer mykola leontovych came up with a melody that became a symbol of all christmas holidays and that er um this song will sound from probably the largest and most famous stage in the world, carnegie hall, today we will talk about it with alim aliyev, the deputy general director of the ukrainian institute, moreover, this concert will sound generous, where ukrainians will perform, uh , vessut martin from corseza, a well-known director and also a well-known the actress is american, but of ukrainian origin , vera farmiga very often, sometimes people ask and say, "why vera when she is signed vera well, if you read the latin letters, she is really
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signed as vera, but she herself told in an interview on some american show that in her name sounds exactly like vera and the name vera itself is spelled as vera in english, but it does not mean anything and this name does not have any russian sound. yes, mr. alim is with us, we welcome him to our air ventari, mr. alim have a good day you are in ukraine, and anatoliy matviychuk signed with you, so they called our next guest with you, we will have a video of the veteri, uh, like salt-out , first of all, all the tickets are sold out in carnegie hall, yes, i am , so the people who bought these tickets are americans are these ukrainians, are they americans of ukrainian
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origin, this is a very different audience. it was important for us to attract our diaspora to attract americans and for people for whom shchedryk generally unites people from different countries and from different worlds, that's why today we are about ukraine in ago among us, we speak the language of shchedryk, the language of music, language arts, or ah, holi’s complaints. literally, in a few hours , this wonderful event will take place. of the world, which is associated with christmas and the new year, today it is obvious that shchedryk and leontovych's music acquires new meanings and new a-a m-m in the context
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of the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, it is a part of the cultural diplomacy and well, it's very nice that the presenters of the concert are also very famous people. well, martin scorsese, after all, so is mark and faith in the army. we talked about this yesterday. unfortunately, there are many. unfortunately, many americans still do not know that this is exactly a ukrainian melody. so why is it so important? and now is the time when we return our names to ourselves, when we return our shchedrik, when we return kazimir malevich when we return a-a-a-a crimean tatar writers so when we return a-a theater and
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it is all obvious there is a parallel and inseparable track with the physical return of ukrainian lands now during the war in ukraine yes or a longer time about ukraine ukrainian identity ukrainian culture the story was told by others, including russia, who spoke about us as her colony, and at the same time propitiating everything that is the best, and it is important for us to imagine the voice of ukrainian art in the ukrainian ukrainian language studies of communication projects on international platforms, therefore, for us, one of the focal topics is the topic of documentary. so when we talk about the fact that ukraine is going through
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this path to colonialism, and this is a dicolonial war , or it is a war not just for the destruction of us as er physically or er encroachment of our land and this is also the destruction of us as a-a peoples as a country as a society so it is actually about this and it is very important to talk about the ukrainian institute today together with partners and this is being done at various sites in different ways because today is an important time for us and it is obvious when we talk about diplomacy about soft power - it also affects the support of ukraine , including the support from the point of view of weapons, i have, you know, in fact, i confess that i have the problem with this term colonialism is apostolic practices, er, anti-colonial practices in
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ukraine, because i understand that we cannot take some classical approaches, which i don’t know exists, for example, describes it in his writings and simply transfer it to ukrainian history because, well, from very for simple reasons, ukraine was not a colony of some foreign country, which was actually created under the influence of the metropolis, and it is similar to us here, that we also need to cleanse ourselves of the influence of the usual imperial culture, which was here for a century, in some territories, in some territories for decades only , but in ts- ukraine is with her to a certain extent - this is the founder of this metropolis, that is, the very background of the fact that it is ukrainian land or ukrainian tradition is interesting here. it was rather a metropolis for a longer time and even the church itself for example, the moscow patriarchate was a part of the kyiv metropolitanate, also an interesting moment, but here i will talk about nature, about ukraine and
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ukrainian society, and horizontal ties are very important for us, and democratic institutions are very important for us, and we absolutely know how to quickly establish, again, these ties are not vertical, but with each other, this is not the case in the empire , and today russia is an absolute empire that is with us, and when we talk about dikunialization, that is, about returning our names, we we should also talk about de-colonization, because crimea, for example, is where i come from. this is absolutely a story about a new colony for the lyzams, which manifests itself not only in the fact that they drove a huge number of soldiers and equipment there. and this is corrected in the mass media. when they already bring almost 700,000
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russians to crimea. and this applies to that, and there are three things of consciousness, these are all factors, this is a guide , this russian way of performing various things, and unfortunately, this is not a new phenomenon for ukraine. so, if again after all, to return to the history of crimea, this is the second time since the 18th century that we have such attempts to colonize crimea. ethnic ukrainians , if we talk about leontovych himself, about his character , it is also interesting because of his life path, his biography, which somewhere now resonates even with the same stories, but today, not so long ago, we were talking about
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the writer volodymyr kupenko was found in the grave under number 319, and it was confirmed that it was him and this sharp bridge after decades with almost the same events with the same death, for example, mykola leontovych with the same deaths of dozens of ukrainian writers who were shot literally in one day cultural figures in russia at that time, well , that is, these are some such things that today also allow us to better understand the cultural and liberation war that took place 100 years ago. we absolutely must understand that our culture is a time this is part of our security. i really want us to introduce ourselves to accept culture as a service function and science, too, it is the basis for our identity, against which today there
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is a war, yes, we have to understand and support this absolutely clearly. to develop today, well, one task of the ukrainian institute is to present ukraine as a modern ukraine abroad, and that is why it is sometimes much more difficult to do this, because the longer time is not just decades , er, long periods of time, russia talks about ukrainian culture from the point of view of its narratives and about ukrainian history from the point of view of its narratives there and in this way it formed this completely invented term great russian culture, and if you look at this conventional great russian culture and take away the cultures of other peoples that they offered, then there will remain a very very much so, and we should be aware of this and we should continue to promote ourselves and our voice in ukraine
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outside the country because of the culture, and that is why today we see the murders of journalists the murders of writers of the working culture of scientists a and these are absolutely stories related to the destruction of the intelligentsia and those voices of free people, plyma for farmiga's faith, there is probably no secret in that, and the real story of the carol song or shedrivka, what is the correct name for it shchedryk that's it knows that this is not a song from the film alone at home, that this is not kerov of the bells. and what is this actual song and music to which mykola leontovych wrote a story in martinsk, who will conduct this concert together with her, for him or for him, i don't know are you
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communicated with him or do you know from those people who communicated with him who in the pvr first convinced him that he introduced this concert and how he discovered for himself what he actually learned about the generous truth and what it was for him and how much it was a discovery a we are really very happy that the concert is led by fernáng and martínez, the handsome man, and here. when i spoke about partnership, about partnership in the world, you know now it is an absolutely unique phenomenon when if you really want something, all the doors open for sure and i, too, thank you again to the super-powerful ukrainian diaspora in america, which made it possible, including the presence of its reformation and martin scorsese, to us at this concert
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. a brilliant professional . he knows that direk and carlson brause are also there, and there is a song with a ukrainian soul, that's why, ah, i think he also sees a mission to tell americans about, uh, a ukrainian song about ukrainian culture through a generous yes, that is, that's how it works in the world when and on as an example of one vivid case, you can tell and immerse the viewer, reader, listener in deeper topics of culture or science, etc. well, in the end, very briefly, i still asked how we should relate to the fact that at this concert and after it, that's all for the world
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anyway - still, even if the world will know similar, the world knows, for example, the origin of many german carols, for example, which have become the same as, for example, quiet oil and know more now as silent even on- even as we are treated the fact that it will still be more driven by morons always for the world. i think it is absolutely not bad, because it is a contribution of ukrainian culture and for world culture, the main thing is that when they talked about carol, they took away or were generous, and people understood and knew that the roots and origin from an incredibly beautiful , powerful and the least creative country, which is uh and brave today, obviously i am ukraine. therefore, it is obvious that we should speak loudly about the carol and other phenomena of ukrainian culture so that the whole world knows, and even more so that the first people know about it
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ukrainians, because for many ukrainians it is still a kind of white spot and ukrainian history is for themselves only now, unfortunately or fortunately , sooner or later they have to start discovering a new ukraine for themselves, not the ukraine that soviet propaganda told about or soviet history is ukraine, which was silenced and the history of which was tried to be erased. thank you, mr. alima , for the conversation. ali maliev, the deputy general director of the ukrainian institute, was with us and told us about that today will take place in carnegie hall, where tickets have already been sold out, will host a concert by martin scorsese, a famous american director and actress of ukrainian origin , vera fermiga, and this concert will be dedicated to the 100th anniversary of the premiere of the world premiere of shchedrik, which was also not held in ukraine 100 years ago the world knows this song carol -
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of the bells, let's take a look at the history of how shchedrik gradually became carol . in america, the melody is called carol of the bells, and in ukraine, shchedrik 100 years ago, the chorus. oleksandr koshytsia presented on the north american continent the melody of the ukrainian shchedrivka before the important date . the staff of the leontovych institute found and brought to ukraine the first recording of the shchedrivka performed by the koshytsia choir in new york. this record was recorded in new york in september 1922. well, in general, we can say that it the first gramophone recording of shchedryk that was made in america, this recording was
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actually made a week before the premiere of shchedryk's song on the stage of karniki holm, the record itself is unique there are 8 such copies in the world, the founder of the leontovych institute, tina peresunko, found a rarity on a website where benefactors exchange things, a woman bought the copy for ukrainian culture. you have to be very careful with them, because they break easily and can crash. shchedryk was then also a diplomatic instrument, the singers whom simon petliura sent abroad were supposed to demonstrate to the world the difference between ukrainians and russians, then ukraine declared independence, er, then russia declared that the ukrainian people did not exist, and the ukrainian people's republic was a failed state, and in order for simon petliura to win the support of the western world in the
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war with bolshevik russia and oppose this lie to the russian propaganda, he sent the choir to the west the choir of oleksandr koshyts and so, before coming to america, he performed for two years in ten countries of western europe, and shchedryk first gained international fame and resonance there in 1922, the choir from the ukrainian national people's republic reached the united states of america, the musicians were greeted with a furore on the main new york stage of carnegie hall , they want to repeat the hundred-year-old sold- out performance this year. it is very important to us, because now it is a generous part of american culture, like kella davalzel is very famous and very beloved, the most favorite carol for
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americans, but i do not know much that it is from ukraine 4 in december, both ukrainian and american mountains will appear on the stage of carnegie hall, a charity concert, the funds earned will go to support ukraine, $105 and we will give interest from that fund, even shchedryk, as he did 100 years ago, will once again glorify ukraine, dmytro didora and oleksandr burlevych espresso tv channel well, how can the descendants of the same leontovich or, uh, that ukrainian people who came up with the words uh, to shchedryk's generosity, can now write such uh songs that
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sometimes the ears are twisted into a tube, especially uh well i don't get into the melody because i don't have any kind of super musical er education except for a music school er seven classes on the violin er which you also know in principle is not so easy er but er well ukrainian language and literature was taught at school by my grandmother , a ukrainian language teacher literature is also not very simple, it is more difficult than a music school and then her university. education as a journalist gives me some right to talk about some texts. if you listen to music tv channels now, it’s just scary. and there is a huge number of some russianisms or neologisms that were created in russian, the people who write these texts they think that it is probably a ukrainian language i thought that it might be in my grammar, but i don't see that the cry of the soul in anatoliy matviychuk, singer, poet, composer
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, journalist, tv presenter, music analyst, teacher, scientist and people's artist of ukraine and a laureate of literary prizes who wrote a huge post that, of course, upset many users on facebook. and actually mr. anatoliy says that because there is no electricity - electricity now he often listens to the ukrainian fm station and the music content they currently broadcast, which fortunately, on the one hand, is 100%. in ukrainian ukrainian -speaking and unfortunately, there is a lot of everything mr. anatoliy, welcome to our broadcast i understand that you have no electricity again because you connect to us by phone that's right i congratulate you ms. lesi i congratulate mr. andrii i'm glad to meet your viewers i really thank you very much for the fact that you responded with several thousand likes and almost 1000 reposts
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indicates that this topic is very painful for many of our viewers are listeners, especially in our musical space, and it would still be worthwhile to respond to this topic, so i thank you very much, you know. i think that now a part of our audience is watching, listening, and thinking so. what else can you not please them, well, the performers are already singing in ukrainian, what did you complain about again, you didn't like that ukrainian performers sing in russian, now they started singing in ukrainian and you still don't like it well, i want to say that i am an absolute fan of the ukrainian product domestic space, but the product is of high quality and not only from the point of view of recording, technical point of view, aesthetic and creative point of view, and i am one of the few people, by the way, who can give a professional assessment of the current state of ukrainian song, because i am not just the author
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of many songs there, a people's artist, i defended my thesis on the topic is the historical evolution of the poetry of ukrainian songs, therefore i have real tools for evaluating the current poetic creativity, and by the way , i am not the only one who reacted in this way. the head of the ukrainian greek-catholic church, vladyka sviatoslav, also spoke about the topic of the domestic musical space, he also called to be more demanding and responsible for what is heard on our domestic airwaves, so this topic is in the air, you know, i want to say the same thing here not so long ago, i read about the fact that in general there was a study in sweden, a big swede, a big study that showed well, he already knows what leads there somehow, it’s closer, they, uh, i don’t know about them, eurovision is taking
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place, they will investigate or there is, and not only rocksets, why aren't there, the swedes are very, very cool, and at the same time, they researched that if in the 70s, pop music becomes more primitive, that is, it is some kind of objective and global process that is important, how do they determine that is primitive, that is, the melody itself becomes simpler, the music itself becomes more primitive - the musical phrases inside the songs are more primitive. well, i don’t know, the set itself is some e-e notes of some harmonies and at the same time they become louder with a clearer but slightly more active rhythm. the same applies to the lyrics for the most part and that's true because when you, i can even testify to it myself, although maybe it's just old age, but it really seems that in the 60s and 70s, pop music and even in the 80s pop music
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raised very serious topics. and now it the further it gets well, it's just like that, i don't know, i fell in love today i'll dance i liked your eyes and tomorrow morning i won't be able to sleep let's dance because i fell in love i'm also familiar with this study, i took it into account if you know, i want specifically to say such a field name the places that are characteristic for us in ukrainian and pop music. the first is phonetics and orthography, that is, if you listen, there is a very noticeable tendency to slur the language, to sing with distorted vowels , the leaders make diction almost imperceptible to a normal ear, the impression is that some sing with their mouth or nose sewn too many sonorous sounds, i understand where it comes from

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