that's all i have anna eva, thank you iryna for the details and for the results of the forum via karpatia ukrainian shchedrik sounds in new york's carnegie hall right there 100 years ago the premiere of the shchedrik took place choral groups from ukraine and the usa will take part in the concert dumka ukrainian choir in new york ukrainian children's choir shchedryk and the trinity wall street choir and part of the ticket proceeds will be directed to the reconstruction of ukraine through the youth 24 platform so let's take ourselves to new york for a few moments and let's listen to this concert of water,

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you again it happens only once every four years 32 national teams will meet on the fields of keter to find a new winner watch all 64 matches of the world cup live on the megogo media service, i am iryna koval, mother, wife, host of the espresso tv channel. i am also a volunteer. our soldiers at the front need a lot of things every day, and that is why part of my life today is to help the armed forces of ukraine, and i am very grateful to my colleagues for supporting me in this. thanks to our soldiers, i can, at least for a short time, distract myself from the

continuous stream of news. who protect our mother ukraine at the cost of lives, the owner of lives is the least i can personally do to thank our indomitable defenders, transfer funds for the needs of the army, join and you, each of you can help, even a small contribution to the support of the army saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory in ukraine closer, the war continues since 2014, for almost eight years, thousands of surviving veterans chose different ways home, some went to trainings and started life from scratch, some gave into loneliness and despair and

after the large-scale invasion on february 24, 2022 , it is very difficult to calculate the statistics of ukrainian veterans and their lives after the war, the only thing we want to convey is that life is worth living and there is always a way out, alive, everything that is painfully familiar to you, my mother, comes to life with that gun everything is painfully familiar your mother 's torment so i won't be long ptsd according to veterans' statistics , an estimated 354 million adults who survived the war

around the world suffer from ptsd and or major depression relative to others not so many time, because at the end of the fall of 14th year, i was wounded and went to rest for a long time, not long enough, and i did not return to the front, because in the theorem, when i could already return to the front, our dobrobat dnipro-1 was already withdrawn from the front line, i finished my service in the 16th in 2006, he was released from dnipro and came to lviv, so he got married, but in them it was wrong, the wife of the wife was also from donbas, and we, uh, moved there together, we

are now immigrants from eastern ukraine, not the west. time would stop this shameful practice of forced resettlement of ukrainians, ukrainians should live where they want themselves and not have someone force them to take their houses to the garden cherry circle houses about 30% of vietnam veterans had ptsr during their lives, the final one is sick, this is roma's wedding, so muffled everything well because one day i saw my father coming out of his shift working as a machinist inspecting boiler equipment at thermal power plants all in black fuel oil and i

said that i would sit in a white coat, for example er, in the third year i started working as a nurse in the cardiology department of the central military clinical hospital military medicine why because the faculty was called that and i say i probably liked the long name because please, the specialization was in i was sent to the odesa military hospital cardiology and intensive cardiology brought me a word for the people, a support point at 5:01 p.m. in turkish, it’s a slang term. across the field, there were booths. the first arrival put down a armored car and a backpack and the fight began. i asked what to do with the normative vocabulary. the machine gun, everything else had to run there, i ran, i tell the guys where to shoot, for this there were only five rounds per k fired the next morning, well, the

guys taught me, i chase me, i still carry it, but from the first day they said doc, either you go with the bad guys or take off the nafig in according to one study conducted on 19,308 veterans, the prevalence of ptsr was about 14 percent among veterans who served in operations. we were all ready, like those who in the 14th year understood that one way or another we would have to meet the flank enemy again and already complete the matter to the end. you can say that the experience from the 14th to the 18th was too difficult for me, but at the same time, they accommodated everything, how to say it correctly, and we are my youth. these are the best years, you can say that the 14th year is

slovyansk, then the 14th-15th - this is pisky, this is new acquaintances, new, uh, friends, colleagues from there, with whom i later became friends later in life, this is the experience i gained in 4 years while in the ato i understood. well, i already had certain concepts you already know how a mine rolls when it hits you and when it flies over you, you already adapt to something new more than uh than before than those who have no combat experience at all according to the report 10% prevalence the pdr was extrapolated for all the veterans of the war in the persian gulf, and it feels like it. it was necessary because the 14th year came

, the war started, and i needed to know something about it , what it is, how it works, and where i can find it in all this . there is a job and what i can do in it to do well, that's why i read a little military psychology for myself as a teacher of management psychology said that there is nothing military because everything is the same only in war conditions what happens to her in the war what happens afterwards a military doctor should not be at ground zero this is the law if you are in a unit then you have to perform all functions from a soldier to a commander they must all be interchangeable well, the guys there were just joking. do you learn how

to work? because if they beat us, you will shoot back. everything becomes very simple. five people from brigade 5 rush into the operation . it is reported that they opened fire on us with a large-caliber machine gun. well, answer. they called themselves and there was only one girl, well, they answered from all barrels, and the law of war says, always think about what will fly to you back well, they began to give answers very actively, like by the book in chess in order to cover the whole rob with 120s, one 120s mina falls into the corner of the shelter we were standing on the road, the girl tears off her leg along the labia majora, the artery is there, i couldn’t catch it even when i had a clamp i stab four on the shoe i say katya until

if i reject some unnecessary emotions, so much anger that has accumulated in many people, who leo part of their life, not just the best part of their life . carry out ukrainization or where russification well, we live in the 21st century, the club there we often hear how they were shot there they should have sent camps there and so on well, this wouldn't happen if the one who wanted it didn't want it and so on, it's all a fantasy, it's obvious what's wrong with us as a whole group we need to think about how we should return the ukrainian consciousness in that territory to those heads that inhabit the east and south

of ukraine, it will be hard work for years and for the next generations because before that, for more than one generation, the ukrainian consciousness of these people was squeezed out violently and brutally, at the same time, vitalika is coming from behind , he is wearing a helmet, this is the commander of the bmp-1, he was, well , in the morning, he was a city man, well, if a dog was running around trying to eat us, well, when everything was arranged there, i had to take them both home, i couldn't find a leg radii of a kilometer, and my son asked me where the mothers were on foot, the first ones killed - this is an accusation, why didn't i save the thigh bleeding - anyone can tell if it is not sewn up. and when it

falls from above, i think it's not, well, it's like the first patient who died - well, every doctor has one, i'm the first one turn, namely the interesting topic of ptsr trauma, i can say that the first studies that began to be conducted regarding trauma were conducted in accordance with the so -called combat shock, and these studies were conducted from 900, since 1914, that is, after the first world war. and when they paid attention to the fact that those people who returned from the war. they somehow change and something happens to them, and that's when the term shell shock or combat shock came about, and they already began to delve deeper into the study of this subject. well, i can't say that military psychology from the 14th year, just like that, she

went to the army in spurts, she was actually engaged in this by specialists and only those questions that were applied , this is what we need to study. well, it wouldn't really worry , so there were some studies and how it happens in our country, there is research, there is life, and they do not touch each other, do not intersect. yes, but already in 1968, when the veterans of the vietnam war left faced with alcoholism and that now it's called ptsr and eh with what happens to a veteran, how does he suffer yes, and suicides after the war with divorce, well, there are a lot of such questions, i ended up in a military hospital in the eh department of psychiatry, i just had a nervous breakdown

for almost two years of accumulation inside yourself, you have all the emotions and those, you put such a certain blockade for yourself in order to act so that your brain is always sober so that you can act in extreme situations, then you put a certain psychological blockade for many different situations, for example, if it was in to a peaceful life, it is understandable that you would somehow react more emotionally to most events there, for example, seeing an accident with blood or something else . but for me it is a little different, it is like everyday life , you have to adapt to it automatically and you simply have no choice you either adapt or collect coins and go home. when i got shot in the leg, the car still skidded. it had to solve everything, or else i'm sure it wasn't shot in the leg and broke it. and we're just going the other way. what half of adrenaline, i'll put it back. i've never been able to do this.

i would roughly imagine it as blood. i'm afraid that it's clear . i used to lose it not long ago when i saw blood . well, if in such and such a way of life during such and such extreme events, adrenaline is thrown out. many people scream again after driving through the roof well, because a normal person does not return calmly, it all or remains inside you and they take a ct scan and they tell you and you have multiple sclerosis i say it's clear, well, that's what it was, you just lose consciousness, get up and for mlov and you understand that it is all from there now in your situation there are some maybe because our army of the year 45 well did not take part in military operations there either, well only some local conflicts but there were special forces and not the army and

maybe that's why i wasn't there i would say that military psychology should be applied and developed in the same way as the army. by the way, our army is not that old, and it has been since the 14th year, and when we faced what was happening, the same gap returned a little the same afghans who and they fought, well, in the soviet union they were not touched by psychologists, let’s say no one turned to them and there was no such institution for helping the military, which led to the fact that we currently have a whole detachment of afghans who are fighting and they have not returned from wars, yes . how many of them just overslept, how many simply ended up committing suicide? there are no such statistics. how many families are affected by this? well, it’s just a connection. and what

did the children of those veterans get? we don’t know, because this kind of information is not distributed anywhere. no one deals with such statistics and even when we are already in the 14th year, the war started and there we still faced the fact that we do not need psychologists accumulates accumulates accumulates and then it is just like a glass of water that then everything starts to pour out sometimes, for example, it was still on the 16th, it happened so that a nervous breakdown just happened and i was hospitalized for two months in order to at least somehow stabilize me, then i continued my service again, and when i was discharged from the armed forces, there was already a little in terms of my health it became more difficult, that is, i understand that when i was serving, i returned to as they say in their farewell ceremony and there where are the brothers, where is this mud again, blood

again, explosions, arrivals and deaths, friends, and you have already been stewing in this and someone there is already easier for you, that is and when you return home, there is no such thing, many people do not understand you, even civilian psychologists, you come to them, you tell them, and you see in their eyes , they simply do not understand you, well, no, they do not want to, they cannot understand you in their own way battalion e-e 42nd battalion on chmedom served the first is a divorce the first is the second is suicide well the third is alcohol well it’s how you plan for yourself here we were fighting for something there i just didn’t want to listen those who were around told me enough talk about tanks psychological preparation and that’s it in the form in which we started it, it was started in the 14th, then in the 15th and 16th years, it was carried out

. that works like that the nervous system is a state of panic, this is a state of stupor, this is a state of fear, this is crying, this is trembling, this is apathy, samaritan and hallucinations. yes, these are crisis states , and in fact, the person himself cannot get out of this state, he needs help, it is very important to talk, it seems, well, it seems so it's easy to tell about it yes, but in reality it's not very easy to say that i was scared, well, a healthy man who was scared to admit that he just felt sick because the same combat shock on a physiological level and this is dizziness

clouding of consciousness is this vomiting is uncontrolled visual and visual impairment yes and that is why i had to explain that this is normal and that there is no need to be afraid of that as a result of such stress and there may be a loss of vision eh temporary yes or a loss of hearing or a temporary loss of speech that it returns because if a person does not know this and he is afraid, then it is necessary, and in fact, if i understand that everything is normal, yes, i have fear, but it is no longer so paralyzing, and it does not block the nervous system so much that it cannot to recover, that's exactly what we drove, we explained, we talked about what to do if something like this happens and how to help someone who is nearby and this happened to him how to track what

is happening to him and uh well, actually uh i had we had such a case here in the donbass, our battalion. but it was such an interesting set . there were guys from the donetsk and luhansk regions. and in the donbass battalion, and when i told all about it, they were there, who sat there, you know that, well, there, oh, there is a woman he tells us something and then something uh, we met with them, and some of them remained in mind, and some of them moved to 93, and we already met with them when they were in 93. and we came to see them in vodyane, and one of them says, listen to me. and you remembered what you said then and how we laughed then and then when it happened. i think

she was talking about it and they were networking but he remembered and it is very good he says to me it helped a lot there must be yes specialists who er or have a certain military education or were also veterans , you can communicate with them because first of all he is you he understands, he understands your condition, because he has the same one, he knows, he found a way out, how to heal there, how to help others. it is the military psychologists who really help in one way or another, seeing that we are all there, we are all soldiers, we are all different, we are ready to the end, to death. that's all, but inside there is a storm of emotions, and when you come home, it

is still bubbling inside you, look at the people there they go to cafes calmly. you understand that you are doing it for their sake. i went to war there so that they could sit in cafes at home, then go to cinemas, but inside, this incomprehensible thing begins. i can’t even convey these emotions. there's a war there, guys are dying, well, it's your country, too, but you 're starting to put yourself out a little bit. as they say, veterans need psychological help because it's a very big problem . pavla i have already shared at the moment, i have someone to share with, she listens, so it's just trust and

listen and listen, but no one listens, no one has their own problems, i'm just telling you from my own experience that it's better to go, but to a psychologist who passed for laziness in many military personnel have a prejudiced attitude towards psychologists, they say they will come to treat me now, i am not sick. yes , it is true. a military man does not mean that he is sick. well, i personally do not have any prejudices against psychologists, this is a personal matter. every adult will decide for himself whether it is necessary to talk to a psychologist or not, now it is very interesting. well, is there such a practice in europe, or is it more strange that it is equal, that is, when a psychologist works with a military person, he is also a military veteran of some combat operations, and then they will

understand each other like no one else, and not some eva tyotya, there is nothing worse than a non-professional psychologist who goes out there at night. and if we have the development of psychology itself and the use of psychological services even among civilians the population it was and what is it but even there the first 10 years we still explained to everyone and encountered all the time well with the fact that a psycho oh = a psychiatrist there and i'm normal i don't need a psychologist here by the way, this is the consequences of the soviet union or psychology began to be killed in 1934. even before 1934, we had institutes, research institutes of psychology. and in kyiv, including psychiatry, because we needed psychiatry, and the old man of the fourth year. we have penal psychiatry. and psychologists

are coming back, so to speak. legally legalized psychology is coming back to them, well, that is, it becomes legal, but it still remains. well, it is just psychology, but applied, where it is already working somewhere, so that it is used somewhere in wide circles, this is not the case. and as we can see, already in 2014, the situation has changed a little. but everything remains the same everything is at the same level and even now well, i'm back well, it's the same and the claim i'm healthy, i don't need a psychiatrist i say so i'm not a psychiatrist i'm a psychologist anyway well , that is, it's such a confusion and we leave for wog come on there went a chainsaw, we went to the psychologist, we are arriving

, there is no one, all the mice all ran away. jokes and it begins there the face stuck out there stuck out you know what they start that's how they crawl up yeah yeah the mice crawled up it's not so scary well now we're going to work and you could go and come up and ask a question and get some kind of answer and that's different there were questions about my relationship with my wife and my relationship with my commander and about my psychological state and my physical state because something hurts somewhere and you go to the doctor, but he will give me some pill anyway, it doesn’t help that's why when the first time when they don't know, well, they're not horrified, maybe it 's not psychologists at all, but psychiatrists, they'll come and think something about me, then they

'll tell the commander what they'll do with me later, but it's really like that, it was funny because already when we arrived there the second, the third time, to the same unit, here , too, the post office already goes to psychology, you know, there was a military psychiatrist, it was in a military hospital, and he participated. he first talked with the afghans, and he went somewhere as a peacekeeper, then he went to serve in a medical military hospital, and it was easier to talk to him than, for example, according to civilian psychologists, he understood you, there are jokes like that, army fools, and with him, there is a kind of life, that is, talking mouths with him, you talk, you talk, you talk, and then he stops. you understand that you have had sessions with him psychotherapy but it's already at the end. it was only one session, after which i was prescribed some antidepressants, sedatives and antibiotics, and everything i decided to go home to zakarpa