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specialists are currently located in the territory of the islamic republic of iran. this means the aircraft builders who are actively building the an-140 there. it seems that they were building. so now it is possible to correct me and the nuclear engineers who, after the failure of the musher contract, are there, according to our information , passing by the ukrainians in an individual order energoatom went there to work already under individual contracts and for how many people i am asking when i worked in iran well, for example , if we take the last years, it is 12-13 and the beginning of 14 year of our specialists in the bodies, there were several thousand e-e, these are several dozen engineers and technicians who worked on the implementation of the program e-e aircraft construction projects gram 140, this is the antonov 140th because, as you know, e-e ukraine supplied assembling
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parts for this aircraft and iranian engineers and technicians under supervision with the help of ukrainian specialists assembled planes and helped put them into operation, as far as is known, several years ago . it hasn’t been there for a long time, maybe some of them remained under private contracts, unfortunately, i don’t have such accurate information, it has uh, of course , our embassy, the ministry of foreign affairs, uh, by and large boshekha station, again, when i
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worked there, the maximum number of our e-technique specialists, engineers, and service personnel also reached a thousand, even more, and because of this, we had a quarterly out- going consulate service because there were so many there were things related to the stay of ukrainian specialists, i even had to, as a temporary attorney, together with our consul, record and register the marriage of a couple of our ukrainian citizens who worked in bushira. they came to tehran. uh, in such a private field, that means there, i think that they remained, but uh, for a long time, for the last 5-6
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years, they worked under contracts with the rosats, and if a certain number stopped, they remained ukrainian of citizens are you who work under contracts from the russian campaign of dew there thank you and your experience of staying there is how many years my experience there i started working from 2005 from the end of 2005 to 2009 a year of break and from the 10th to the beginning on the 14th, thank you for mr. oleksandr oleksandr ovcharov, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine, was our guest, let's move on, oleksandr levchenko, diplomat, deputy permanent representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea, 2006-7 years, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of the republic of croatia, joins 10-17 8th and herzegovina 11th 17th years, we congratulate you, mr. oleksandr, good day, greetings, good
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health, today's morning news amused us about the arrival of an unmanned aerial vehicle on the territory of russia, are there any reasons to talk now about the possibility of the scenario of the deoccupation of crimea, well, the issue of deoccupation crimea has been on the agenda since 2014. yes, this is an important direction, and in fact the war began with crimea. apparently, its deoccupation of crimea will end on its own, so the question arises as to how realistic it is. it will now make the military in any case, the armed forces of ukraine, the armed forces of ukraine are prepared for a military scenario, if any other political points are involved
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, it seems that the president of ukraine said clearly, but maybe mine can be solved politically, there are no questions, only in what way and so on, so that the territorial integrity of ukraine is ensured. of course, the issue of crimea is extremely important, but moscow pays a lot of attention to this issue , so as for its deoccupation, there will be no it will not be easy for the great efforts of our armed forces of the entire ukrainian state to carry out this decisive step, which is actually to bathe crimea, this is actually the fixation of the end of the war, the studio is probably exactly that . if you climb there, i'm sorry,
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you will immediately receive a nuclear response, our constitution, the protection of the territory there, everything else, well , today we see this video, this is also russian territory, the peaceful city of saratov, we are peaceful in quotes because this is one of you, engels, over there is the volga river, or what river flows in this village through the volga, mr. oleksand, the river there is a military airfield of strategic aviation, the tu 95 from the tu-195, which carries nuclear warheads, is well , the elite is like that. here is a small ukrainian drone of the so-called military and space forces of the russian federation. well, an aircraft for 500 km has destroyed several planes there or will damage several strategic planes. well, in principle, everything and we see that no such direct line answer well, no well, there are no nuclear warheads in response to kiev, thank god it does not fly and i
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am sure that the same will happen in crimea if the ukrainian armed forces enter some conditional armenians or continue to push towards dzhankoy and simferopol and sevastopol, then well, what do you think? the general strategic position of the russians regarding the so-called protection of their so-called constitutional territories has changed, well, for us, it is except ukrainian, and in their constitution it is written that he is russian, well, they are in the constitution they wrote that donbas is now zaporizhzhia, my native place. although they never controlled it, their constitutional russian kherson is also theirs, so there is a lot to be written there. clearly, we need to be very careful and careful. economic putin was once again reminded that the use of nuclear weapons is not an acceptable option, a reference to the fact
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that they already held some pseudo-referendums there, like in crimea, and even more so a pseudo-referendum is being held in the temporarily occupied territories of donetsk, luhansk, zaporozhye, kherson regions, so this is not russian territory, and all this is international law and the international community, and these are not recognized on the territory, so do not rule out the option that we will squeeze out of crimea, so to speak the russian armed forces, maybe they will leave themselves if we pull up there, block all these passages, reach the isthmus, and so on, but we must be very attentive to constant communication with our allies, which are not very difficult for the heads to say that sometimes the actions of the kremlin leadership are not predictable and
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their actions can pose a certain danger to all of humanity, so they are constantly communicated with, so to speak , used when telephone therapy is used for putin and so on, because this imbalance can lead to very, very difficult consequences in the studios for sure oleksandr and what to do with the local population, we talked today with the adviser to the mayor of mariupol. he said that if the occupation of mariupol is delayed, then by spring there could be 100,000 newly converted, newly brought citizens of russia of russian origin, that is, who will come over the edge and settle there in mariupol in the crimea, what is the number of people since the 14th year, well, purely russian citizens with a russian passport who have settled there. and what to do with these citizens in case not during the de-occupation of crimea, but after the de-occupation of crimea, what should be done with them, who should deal with it, who should decide
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the fate of this human, well, human mass of biomass, brought there, please, well, they brought something to crimea, 100,000 russian citizens, it is military service members their families are employees of the federal security service of various intelligence agencies of the russian navy and russia, and some others with managers and so on, that is why, of course , the position of the ukrainian state is simple and based on the principles of international law, the deoccupation of crimea provides for the return of the status of february 2014 if, er, this person lived in crimea until february 2014, so she continues to work, er, to experience on absolutely legal grounds, and she was and remains
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all persons who were transferred after february 2014 are citizens of ukraine, so to speak, they have already arrived in the temporarily occupied crimea, they do not have ukrainian citizenship, they become innocents, and therefore their residence must be regulated, we have already stated that let's consider you simply go back to siberia, the far east, the urals, etc. petersburg brain to its place of previous residence after these difficult events of the war, the ukrainian state will not tolerate your stay here, which is illegal, but there are already 40,000 sailors of the black sea fleet plus members of their families with russian passports, and the agreement on the black sea fleet basing in our country seems to have not yet been terminated and it appears that it will last until the 57th year, correct me, it was extended in the 10th year until the 42nd year, yes, the 42nd
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year. well their families of russian sailors can live there for another 20 years or not, that will be decided when erdogan says that this war will end at the negotiating table, yes, all wars will end, in principle, now and then the fixation of all states. this is the negotiating table. of course, it must be an agreement on the end of the war, if you did not sign it and the state of war remains, this is a very dangerous situation and not at all, it is not an impossible scenario that no one needs, that is why in this, so to speak, in the final version everything will be prescribed and so on regarding both the sailors and this transportation agreement fleet and so on, if ukraine remains to adhere to it, then it is possible that they
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will act if we say that we are developing, so it does not work, everyone in the world will understand why we are tearing up this agreement and so on, so i tell you i will tell you one thing, someone is starting to disperse a wave in our society, something in the crimean years has been under occupation, that this population is back, ukrainian is not just political, informational and so on, the cultural space is too difficult and so on , is this necessary at all? do you understand, eh? this is absolutely not correct. i would say that it is an anti-state position, and by and large, the return of citizens back to ukrainian, the entire cultural-political state-legal space in crimea will even be easier than, say, temporarily the occupied territories of donbass. therefore, it is not a
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problem anymore in how to buy crimea physically, that it will be very, very difficult and difficult . so that we could physically return this territory, as if it were a treaty, and there alexander the diplomat was on our air, and thank you very much for the professional conversation , and let's move on. mentioned before the start of a full-scale war after the first terrorist act of wringing crimea from russia. this is of course the budapest memorandum, this is exactly
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the document that supposedly guaranteed ukraine that it would be helped. how else to put it simply, someone will suddenly attack it. when ukraine renounced its nuclear weapons, let's remind you that then there was russia, britain and the united states of america, er, together with ukraine, signed this international document, joined later, but are there real guarantees written there that we have already we saw because what was written there has already happened, that is, an encroachment on the territorial integrity and in fact the legal borders of one of the signatory countries, we gave up the nuclear potential, we gave up nuclear weapons. and what did we get ? novotel hotels
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presidents of ukraine, russia and the united states leonid kuchma boriselsen and bill clinton as well as the prime minister of great britain john major sign a memorandum of one and a half pages and smaller in 400 words, yes, ukraine gave up the third nuclear arsenal in the world, skeptics were convinced that after the collapse of the ussr, the nuclear threat would increase, but thanks to the wisdom and statesmanship of the leaders who are now next to me, the skeptics were wrong, after the collapse of the ssr, 176 intercontinental ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads appeared on the territory of independent ukraine and more than 2.5 thousand units of tactical nuclear weapons, this caused discontent in russia and fear in the west, therefore moscow and washington simultaneously demanded from ukraine nuclear disarmament and it is difficult to call kyiv's voluntary refusal, the american people knew that these militants were aimed at their territory, moreover, clinton and the
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vice-president said that if ukraine gives in, others will start literally economic sanctions and not only economic sanctions in the budapest memorandum of the usa, russia and britain pledged to respect independence, sovereignty and borders of ukraine, but the document was declarative and did not contain direct obligations of the parties, it was clear even at the wording level, if the ukrainian and russian versions of the memorandum contain the word guarantee, then in english, they limited themselves to the term of assurances, american diplomats deliberately insisted on this. this is what the us ambassador to ukraine steven viper mentioned about it. american officials explained to ukrainian partners the difference between guarantees and assurances. guarantees are what nato countries and such us allies as south korea and australia have include the obligation to use
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american armed forces if necessary, assurances do not entail such obligations ; in fact, the only mechanism prescribed in the memorandum - this is the convening of a consultation in the event of a threat to ukrainian independence and sovereignty since 2014. ukraine initiated such meetings four times, the last time a few days before the full-scale invasion, moscow ignored them, we continue our broadcast and now we will talk about this and other topics with volodymyr ogryzko, where he tried checkmate the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine for 7-9 years, the head of the russian research center, mr. volodymyr, we welcome the same guarantees that we received as a result of signing the budapest memorandum. well, when he says about some kind of guarantees for russia, as now
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is the first time. we are celebrating this date in full-scale war mode, as we are now looking at that document and the main question that arises in my mind. of weapons, well, it is a question that has been discussed for a long time . it is clear, and there is still no unequivocal answer to it. what i know is back in those days. although i was abroad at the time when all these documents were being prepared, i did not participated directly in them preparation, but my colleagues told me that the maintenance of strategic offensive weapons was really not up to the mark in ukraine, another thing related tactically to nuclear weapons, but they were removed from the territory of ukraine, either because of the negligence of our government at the time, or because of some kind of silent agreement this history is
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silent so far, so we have as the first president said, what we have is actually prepared during his presidency or, in fact, the documents were ready exactly when he was president, then already and signed by president kuchma, so you know, there is a lot to talk about now, but history. i don’t know the conditional way, so we assume that we have no guarantees or assurances regarding nuclear weapons . international legal documents have such a rule that any document that is signed has the same force in our documents, in the ukrainian text , guarantees are written, that is, of course, they can be interpreted in different ways, the english language is
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among synonyms for the word guarantee also have words people of edshury, what exactly is pfeiffer writing about, so it's not about language problems, it's about political will and political position. unfortunately, our western partners are russia's belligerence by definition. and some of you mentioned ms. anna today, one of the leaders of a large european country is afraid today, for them, the question in the wording doesn't matter, he was just afraid, it's our business, they did it so that this fear actually came to the whole story of this document. well, what did you promise the guarantor to the countries of the signatories, now you know it it reminds me of vysotsky's song that if you don't respond, we will write a sport in the anti-terrorist operation, that's about it
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, that is, now you can appeal to anyone , but the result will be the same. well, in principle, i can say that we are providing you with weapons now. we are helping you in that you fought back from russian aggression. that's why we contribute to the fulfillment of security guarantees. well, who's to say that it's not so simple, you understand, as in any other cases, the details must be written very clearly and clearly so that there are no ambiguities and when they are already signed general documents eh then each of the parties can interpret it as they like some say yes others say yes and everyone stands by their own eh in such cases everything must be clearly and clearly described down to the last comma to that is spelled out so look for immediate action on the part of the security council the un in order to provide assistance to ukraine if it becomes
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a victim of acts of aggression or the object of threats and nuclear weapons, e.e. with the use of nuclear weapons. i understood and the enemy laughed. when you want to start reading the un security program and here you are smiling too. well, because it is profanity. sorry for the undiplomatic directness. now you need to speak only in this way as possible. as possible, send it to the un security council, where the country that is the aggressor sits. well, this is this, well, in itself, it is simply cynical and bitter. by the way, this is the document that we, i think, should in the history of our ukrainian diplomacy consider a failure a disaster. well , unfortunately, it is signed. what do you think? how should a new document on security guarantees of ukraine at the end of the war was to appear, and there were two positions, there is
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one position, which is very common, one position. that is, we need to become a member of the nato bloc, and then all issues will be resolved by the fifth article. and if we do not become a member of nato, so be it - what agreements on security guarantees will be similar. according to the consequences of our actions, we have the budapest memorandum, so there is no need to sign any of these other agreements, we just need to join nato, what is your opinion, can there be any other documents on security guarantees besides joining to the north atlantic treaty i honestly can't imagine such documents because they will still be similar to the budapest memorandum only in the new edition and what is now being proposed are some multilayered multilateral guarantees when there are many countries giving one such another such well that's all excuse me for a word, this is a vinaigrette from a guarantee, which, just like the
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current one in budapest, no one will fulfill the guarantee is that you will not be attacked, this is a guarantee, not a guarantee that when you will be attacked you call consultations, which are then considered in some way, you are bombarded who is already attacking your territory, you begin to think what to do and then they tell you, and here we will give you a bucket of water so that you can put out the fire and we will give you er, maybe in six months we will go so that you can shoot back, this is not a guarantee, this is a desecration of veterans, guarantees that and in order not to attack , the same nuclear weapons can be a guarantee. can we restore them in the future? this is the only guarantee that protects all other countries that are members of the alliance because after all, it gives much more confidence that you will not be attacked. well, because you have
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nuclear countries behind you, which of course can say that this is not an attack . there, which reach one and a half or two, and that one is 5,000 km, that is, so that since this morning, let's say some unmanned flights, e.e., in the srakku region and bombed two strategic offensive planes e. there is no danger, our missiles cover the left and half a thousand kilometers of russian territory , then there is a 100% guarantee that this will not happen. and everything else. these will be very simple conversations, sir. and what do you think, based on the results of this war and armed aggression, the threats to russia not only to ukraine, but also to european countries, the baltic countries, poland, other
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partners who supply our weapons to us, weapons will not be rewritten, the fifth article was a diplomat you know the text, i won't quote it anymore, the fifth article of the statute, etc., it's too blurry this is how it is written. that is, the word restoration of territory is there. well , there is no integrity of such a phrase at all. there is no such thing as a cessation of hostilities, a cessation of hostilities, but what countries will strive for. the end point is the restoration of the territorial integrity of the country, members of nato. there is no such thing in this article. it is prescribed or not, there is something else, there is the fact that an attack on one country is of course an attack on all and this already entails completely uh-uh other uh-uh legal consequences, and that already includes the organization of the united nations the statute and where everything is clearly spelled out, international conventions are included, where it is written what is the amz of armed aggression, the crime of armed aggression, and so on, there already, uh, you can't write down in one article
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everything that well, in this regard, this article should be involved very clearly and clearly says that an aggressor who is risky to shepherd a small conditional estonia will have to deal with the not-so-small united states of america and this is actually the main deterrent factor . at least a missile e-e program that will keep a potential aggressor in a good tone. and also a food guarantee. the third option is the disappearance of the aggressor country from the face of the earth. this is the best option . because i think so, no one in the west can determine why one country and one people are more alone peoples have the right to their independent existence. but others don’t. why, let’s say, for example, it has disappeared now. that’s why we don’t have the right to light. and
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someone has the right to light absolutely, but i would take it more broadly. why, let’s say, conditional italians have the right . to their own state and conditional er-er and conditional tatars er-er well the tatars who live in the zina povol have and why don't the ivankas have the right to their own state er or er-er the same dagestanis and or chechens minutes to the end i want your professional comment these animal eyes that are sent by ukrainian diplomats abroad are not detailed here, there are no photos, the spanish police seized three envelopes at the post office, there it is believed that the eyes of animals are also for ukrainian diplomats, this is somehow the language of diplomacy, it means something. explain who and what they are for sending this is already the 21st such case with these animal eyes, colleagues, this is a sign of only one thing. this is
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the degradation of what used to be called russian diplomacy. this is just the end of a comedy curtain. nothing more can be commented here. this is an attempt to intimidate. sorry if ukrainian children say by a foreign correspondent what we are not afraid of because we are ukrainians, believe the ukrainian diplomats, there is nothing to be afraid of, these are adults, conscious people who work in the name and in the interest of their state, so it is just another maybe the last er wild ultimately not inadequate er steps of moscow in order to er well somehow er affect the mood but believe me it has only the opposite effect the more they try to heal us the more there is anger and the more
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