can apply because it will only turn against him uh, that's why you can listen to putin or hear everything he says uh. it's not necessary and you don't need to hear what he won and now. please agree with this, what he has now four new subjects of the russian federation, the dpr of the nd and part of the kharkiv and zaporozhye regions, this will not happen , and he can please himself and his population with such things, but he must clearly state that this will not happen to the western world and you the civilized world and ukraine first of all as a victim we will not allow this aggression 100% mr. yaroslav i forgot to ask you from the very beginning and how would you answer the question that we asked today to the viewers who watch us on youtube, why do the macrons continue to communicate with putin, they want to help ukraine the first option the second option they want to earn political bonuses

, the third option is yours. i would be more inclined to the first option. they talked about the fact that ukraine is being encouraged to negotiate and as if some realistic demands are being put forward for this, but they are realistic from whom. for ukraine, these are unrealistic demands to get rid of its territories, to forgive what is happening with the murders of our prominent population, the destruction of our economy in general, in our struggle for survival maybe one day let's say the steinmeier formula it looked like for mr. steinmeier who was then the minister of foreign affairs and now the president of germany maybe it looked realistic but just after he visited in kurukivka and sat for two hours with the residents of this

city during the military air alert. i think that he now has a completely different view of what are realistic demands that can be put forward and the situation, he must act from a position of strength because strength and the truth is behind us and ukraine is now on the leading edge of the west, and it is solving these problems for itself, for france, for germany, because if, for god’s sake, it happens that putin somehow starts to win , then the next uh, the next victims will be exactly eastern european and then french and german territories. moreover, it is starting now, but the army trends are such that the bundeswehr says that because of the transfer of many weapons to ukraine, they do not have time to defend themselves. france

says the same thing, although macron says that he is constantly keeps under control how many weapons are left in the french republic. but there are such friends of putin, marin liben, who just blames for flights like this. it is clear that it is a trick, she accuses macron of not giving weapons to ukraine, even though it deserves in order to be er protected, this is even a couple, lipen tells us, but you see that we from france do not disarm because of this. thus, it is clear that the crown something and other actors, they first of all take care of their interests, mr. yaroslav. now let's change the topic a little, the work has begun over the ninth package of sanctions in the european union, what do you personally expect from this package, what should we expect from this package, can it be called strong or s- can europe be said to have already exhausted itself with possible, well, possible proposals for new

of sanctions well, you know these eight packages that have already been adopted uh, they should finally come into effect today . including japan, australia also joined to import oil, although it has been like this for a long time before this, an exception was made only for hungary, we know why slovakia and the czech republic are set like this, we know that sixty dollars is the maximum price for russian oil it already has oil to take place with regard to russian oil products from february 5, too, next year, in two months, those sanctions will be applied. how effective will the new package of the ninth package of sanctions be

? we are not talking about any radical things . but it is about the fact that uh, 180 new russian officials will fall under these sanctions, which 180 positions, and it is already said that they will be included in this package, and i really want to hope that just next week, uh, december 12 on the eve of the meeting of the eu council and the eu summit, these proposals will be considered and some radical positions, more radical proposals on sanctions than those that have been introduced in the last 9 months, i do not expect, but each one is this whistle. i think that it will be hammered every this nail is in the coffin of the russian economy, and this means

that the russian economy will no longer be able to withstand this actual arms race, as the soviet economy once did not withstand the arms race with the combined states of america and just then the soviet union fell apart, there is hope for this. although more radical means would certainly be military aid, but we know for sure that this will not happen, that the nato countries will not intervene because this is the third world war , they will not to oppose russia in a military way, and they will help us with weapons and will help us with sanctions. i think that with joint efforts, it will still come to the point that the russian economy will not be able to wage a full-scale war due to these sanctions, and each of us will hammer as you said, europe started hammering these

nails with sanctions. each of us, in our place, will finish our nail on this coffin of the russian federation in order to bury this coffin. well , at least it can simply break this coffin into pieces. yaroslav, let's listen to what happened last time week, the minister of foreign affairs of our northeastern neighbor, serhiy lavrov, said, to the great regret of our northeastern neighbor, then the question will be to you, the gate from ukraine, we did not just become like that anymore, because we did not like zelensky because he stopped playing in the first war, he stopped supporting his theater in quarter 95, and we sent a war to ukraine, so we warned for a long, long time, and nothing

happened. understand what you can offer mr. yaroslav please tell me this will be the last one because i have a question for you and what lavrov said during this interview during this conversation with journalists that he called the war in ukraine a war is a war he slandered saying a special military operation, some kind of informational and psychological operation on the russians to raise up the russians, that for us it is almost the beginning of the patriotic war, get up russia for a big fight . and it is clearly already in the mind of the russian leadership that this is a war because it is a special close-in operation, it is such an operation that is carried out. well, for a few weeks at the most, i am not a

military strategist and not a military specialist, but if you take what military specialists say about it, this is such a limited operation, really if it is about the fact that russia wants to subjugate the entire ukrainian territory and not only donbas, not only to consolidate the fact that it remained in crimea and in crimea and now it means in our southern parts of our ukraine and then in general it is about the shelling of the entire territory of our state, and until recently the chernivtsi region managed to avoid shelling, now we know and see that the entire military and civilian infrastructure is subject to shelling according to some calculations, 97% of russian shelling in the last months or so,

they were just hits on civilian objects, not what they say they want our military infrastructure - infrastructure so that the nazis do not get it well, we will not repeat their insinuations therefore, i believe that everyone in russia already understands, whatever you call this so -called operation, that this is a war of russia against ukraine, and that war they are talking about on their propaganda channels, and they are leading solovyov and skabeeva. they don't say that they are conducting their own special military operation with nato, they say that they are fighting with nato, so they have admitted that they are voi and if you are fighting, it is a war not only with ukraine, but as in their understanding it is very painful and unpleasant for them to lose on the battlefield to the ukrainians they are now justifying themselves by the fact that they are waging this war with nato , so i think that there will be more such excuses and, well

, it's just that it has already settled in korka and in the russian leadership and in the russian one, they understand that this is not the sbu, the most important thing yaroslav that they understand that this is a war and the most important thing is that they understand in the near future that they will soon be playing in this war and our victory will be strong yaroslav thank you very much for participating in my program it was yaroslav voitko diplomat expert international of my next guest, i will match the intermediate results of the voting, which on youtube you vote so little and watch sluggishly, come on, now only 624 people are watching us well, that's not enough because we raise very important topics and experts explain incomprehensible questions, join and join the vote today i asked the following question: why do the macrons continue to communicate with putin? they want to help ukraine.

22% think they want to earn political bonuses . 64%. well, your option is 12%. well, what do you see, the majority of viewers on youtube believe that emmanuel macron and olaf scholz talking to putin want to earn some bonuses for themselves, so i introduce the next guest, oles koval, a chinese, mr. oles, congratulations, congratulations, thank you for joining the program, and since i everyone has already introduced you they know they throw away they know obviously we will now talk about china, which you know very well and you will give answers to those questions that are for all of us i think for all of us and not even for the vast majority incomprehensible which is incomprehensible very often this country which is far from us and especially what is the situation now, mr. oles? please tell me

, let's start with the protests in china . the chinese are protesting against the strict anti -covid measures. is it still against the government? there were slogans against the authorities, however, we saw that they were only there in shanghai, and there were protests in eight cities, 8-10, let's say eight dashes 10 , but on campuses, for example, university ones , there were many protests all over the country, and yet it's all the same, i think, dissatisfaction with these tough covid measures that continue, but let's say this is the last week, the protests were last weekend, and in fact, in the last weeks , the chinese authorities began to lift covid restrictions, that is, in some places, a second ago. if i were to say that you understand, it is not the level of the higher authorities, not the level of sygentin, to solve these problems, the problems with these

protests are really solved at the level of the provincial governments somewhere, that is, they themselves accept those in those provinces where these protests took place, there they shoot all of them, yes, one last thing, did you not hear mr. oles? of course, these are not protests against the government, maybe some kind of dictatorship , one of the last in the world, might have shaken, but how do you comment on these calls that were heard in some cities? it is no longer to some local government, but to the higher government, sit down and 9 to resign or the communist party is resigning well, because look at this completely this policy of covid measures is the policy of the state yes and the policy of the party that is, it is already two years ago how we know that during the beginning of the pandemic, these measures were taken, which are still

in place, so really, let's say their complete cancellation, this decision will be at the state level. i think it will be taken sometime before spring. i think gradually we will witness how in the winter there will be reduce the anti-covid e-e anti-covid restrictions and gradually i think sometime in march already in may these restrictions will be canceled, let’s say strict restrictions and thank you for this answer, and now the editor told me that since we have two e-e channels in i gave some wrong information to youtube that only 600 or so people are watching us on two channels, on the second channel we are watched by 1441, and more people are watching us than i did at first, but i thought almost there are more than 2.5 thousand people watching us, so join us sir oles, i'm sorry for interrupting you with this. that is, we can draw the following conclusion that all the protests are

dying down. well, since monday, they have not actually taken place and they cannot be called mass because there were 300 people, 400 people, 500 people participating, for china, these are not mass protests but they probably covered the majority, because they are in many cities, let's say in many cities, they started from the west of the country and reached beijing, the capital , shanghai, and other cities. saying, i hoped that they would grow into something else. i would like to see the protests in china. taiwan. it seems to me that at least a little as an internationalist on the tv channel, taiwan has taken a back seat. is the deceased really ready to return this rebellious island by force, considering what if he to return by force, it will lead to such a direct military

confrontation with the united states of america, even from the side of china, and officially, this is only bravado about the fact that we reserve the right to return a rebellious island, well, look, i still don’t think that china is ready to return taiwan by force right now, and this will of course lead to testimony by the united states. the situation is different, let's not say from ukraine, on the other hand, i still think that in long-term doses, as written in chinese documents, they are always calculated for negotiations with the taiwanese authorities, even if somehow agree to some kind of creunification, because china still considers taiwan to be its territory. in that case, they do not consider themselves an independent state either. they still believe that they are part of that china that was

destroyed in 1949. this should be resolved in these negotiations, and i think that this is exactly the way china will go, and because it does not need to conquer the island of a small territory there, it will then make the same mistake that russia made when it attacked russia in ukraine plas well, you personally do you think that if this proposal is made by china, if it is made, will taiwan go? well, there have already been these negotiations, they are already going, they are simply not with this political force that is currently ruling in taiwan, the democratic progressive party of taiwan is exactly against such negotiations but if in two years we have general elections in taiwan and the kuomintang nationalist party wins there, it is quite possible that these same nationalists in taiwan will renew negotiations with the communists, let's say to beijing and china the great

of the mainland and such talks were already held in 2005 , the party secretary general met with the head of the president danko in china in peking, the communists will renew it, yes, because, look, since 2012, the main idea of ​​all zinkina is the revival of the chinese nation, there is no talk of communism, socialism - it is purely nationalistic a slogan under which it is actually possible, on the basis of which it is possible to talk about an agreement with the nationalists, that is, about the nation, about the unification of the chinese nation. well , if so, i really liked it because for i can't think of this, you know, nationalism and communism, but even if such negotiations take place and something happens and this unification will happen, this unification can be uh, just like it happened, for example, with hong kong. one country, two systems, yes, that's the principle. - this is the principle

that is laid down in such unification, that is, even if you join formally join your system, your system there will not be destroyed eh immediately, that is, as for example happened during the unification of germany. existence here, as we see loncozzi, 25 years have passed since the unification and there, after all, china, only after 25 years, some measures are already being taken to, let's say, change the order in hong kong. well, i think that the formula can be different, because it can be foam meetings some new formula after all one country two systems is the formula of densiopin 1900 there in the 90s let's say and it is not exactly that, that is, it is interpreted differently by those in taipei let's say in taiwan and in china and the very attitude towards what is such a united china yes there is a very different interpretation of eh

in beijing, let's say it so clearly in the taibren . about the fact that russian e-e il-76 transport planes flew quite a lot in the sky and brought something from there, landed at airfields in the russian federation, is there any information about what exactly these planes could take in china and bring to russia hmm in my opinion, in my the opinion is deliveries still er some equipment, most likely it could be tactical equipment for russian soldiers, on the other hand, i don’t think it’s weapons, yes. that is, it could be winter

equipment, there could be some tactical knives or bulletproof vests. this is what china produces and why isn't russia sleeping here? as you know, it is mobilizing and it is terribly lacking. that is, i do not think that china will. and by the way, american intelligence has also confirmed that china does not supply weapons, so far we do not have such information. weapons really appeared in the ukrainian -russian conflict zone of the war, then we would immediately see and it would be an occasion to accuse china of laundered supplies of weapons and this would lead to sanctions that the usa promised to impose on china if they directly help in return. i think it is possible this is the supply of such and such, exactly, well, uniforms, let’s say tactical equipment there, which the soldiers need for the front. well, but can we then say that china, despite all these statements that are being made and peace on the ground, but here we stand, we stand for

what do they call the conflict because several times there the minister of foreign affairs called it a war but mainly we are in favor of a peaceful solution to this conflict in ukraine, we do not support any side or can we even call otaki the supply of even military clothing a-a can we consider it by the fact that china still joins and supports russia, well, look at it, we can interpret it, on the other hand, the chinese themselves do not interpret it that way, do they understand it, i think that it is a purchase and sale , that is, if russia ordered, then this product is in china china put it up and i think that it is not, let’s say , some kind of free, let’s say, deep help from china to russia, we will also say that ukraine buys chinese drones for its armed forces and also

uses them. this is strange because it is also possible to say that russia can buy drones in iran or russia wants to buy drones - not drones, already ballistic missiles in iran also pay money for it . of the ongoing conflict in ukraine well, of course we will and in this case, whether kyiv or china, we will count the alensky drones for 3/4 made of american european parts, this is also interesting , this story separately well, well, look, i still do n’t think so. that is, i i don't think that this is a reason to automatically involve china, let's say, in the conflict. first of all, secondly, again, i think the americans are very clearly tracking all this information. they immediately imposed sanctions against china if such information was clearly proven. now let's ask one more question. a week ago, there was information that russian and chinese planes are actively patrolling strategic

bombers. by the way, there are fewer of them in russia today, but not those that are stationed somewhere in the far east, that are stationed closer to the front line, so that's it. russian and chinese bombers jointly patrolled parts of the japanese and south chinese seas, it seems like this. they wanted to send a strong signal to the united states of america. well, this is a certain gesture. was not able to show that, in principle, they perceive joint actions, well, this is not the first, in principle, this is not the first time that such patrols have taken place, and the ships went together and the training is conducted in a joint , so i do not think that this is anything too new, but in the current situation, yes, it is obvious we will show others that russia and china still have something in common in the confrontation between china

and the united states of america. will russia openly support china? well, of course they stand as the chinese say that they stand with their backs to back and if there are any conflicts of a more global nature, even before the invasion of ukraine, the chinese media wrote that if there is a conflict between russia and ukraine, then china will not interfere, but if there really is an open confrontation between russia and the west, then it will be a war in to which china will support russia and, accordingly, vice versa . will it be possible to cooperate? and in your opinion, russia

somehow somehow bypasses the sanctions, the energy sanctions introduced against it with the west, diversifying all its trade in energy carriers to the east, in particular to china? very well, there is 10-13% of coal, 50% of it is a sample of supplies from russia to china, and of course china is taking advantage of the fact that russia's energy carrier has become cheaper. well, now it is much larger and new spoilers are being built. yes, actually, that is why i think that this is the evidence of the fact that but i think that this situation is actually more beneficial to china than to russia because russia has money from it, but not as much. if it had nato in another period and now it is already i think that it

's not so much for russia, money is scary, but for china it's very big, let's say such a profit to buy russian energy at half the market price there, for example, that is, china uses russia, let's say it directly and it will and will continue thank you, mr. oles, thank you for clarifying difficult questions for a ukrainian are related to the sky. it was oles kovalke and a connoisseur. thank you again. well, hmm, we are slowly coming to the end of the program and now we need to tally up the intermediate results of the voting. yes, since i switched to another channel, i have to switch to that channel again on who has these voting results? now it is being loaded. well, 190 people voted. we asked the question again. i will

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