tv [untitled] December 6, 2022 12:30pm-1:01pm EET
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cat chernigov, what kind of forces were these? well, then, somewhere at the beginning of... at the beginning of march, near kyiv, there were battles in the brovary district, in the skiban district, but here it is interesting to find out whether it was a column that came from the north, maybe by some detours around chernihiv. was it possible that the forces came from the northeast? please, experts, analysts, i can’t have this information, but as a local resident, i can say that there is a part of the troops that tried to go through chernihiv as from the north-eastern direction uh, from the uh, side of uh, that's what we call the moscow highway because of the soot a-ah, where they were also stopped, but from the other side, from the other side, they tried to enter kyiv. as you know
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, from the chernobyl zone and, in principle, bypass uh part of the city of chernihiv on the western side, i.e., on the side of the city of slavutych, but there was a very big obstacle there, namely the river desna, which was quite wide, and the only bridge that could then give the opportunity to bypass the city of chernihiv from the west the mentioned route m1 e-e from new yarlovichi, this is a bridge near the village of shestovitsa, which our military blew up in order to prevent this breakthrough. how did the actions take place? you have to ask the military directly. now i want to talk a little about uh-terrodefense and i read a lot of stories
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about about chernihiv and around chernihiv where real heroism was shown by ordinary people, here is the story about two uh-friends of hunters who uh, minors in chernihiv, let's say, called fire on themselves now i won't just because that's how i read it, you know, they didn't write names for themselves, it was amazing when two men , they, er, transferred data to our armed forces about the location of enemy equipment, and then when it became clear that the equipment was actually already standing in their yard, they opened fire on hid themselves in a dungeon there in the basement and one of them survived, he was not able to survive, but this once again proves that the local population was ready for war. well, also the battle in chernihiv, by the way, i didn’t i found what kind of height it was necessary to hold to our armed forces and actually giving their lives, almost everyone who held it managed to hold it, well, that's how those individual stories are. and you will tell it, you know, as
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they say, you will give meat to these bones that i am now on this skeleton that i am now presenting to oleksandr here teroborona people come to the military commissariat in the first days, where were they sent, how many people were armed, because if, say, in kyiv, they distributed more than 10,000 assault rifles to the local population, then this is how it was in chernihiv, please. to come, it is still unknown why he did that, er, then an airstrike was carried out there, and two nearby schools were destroyed, and the boys came. so, i went from er, on the second day, i already went there to film , talk with the boys. we also brought some humanitarian aid and e. i just by the way, regarding help, i wrote to my e-e instagram on instagram about the fact that who wants to help, who has the opportunity but is afraid or for other reasons there is no way to bring it to the guys there, they were there, i remember the first thing that is needed is clothes uh, socks like that
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people took everything they had, they didn't think about themselves there, they thought about supporting the territorial defense of these volunteers in chernihiv at that moment in order to protect the city, that is, they gave their last, and people at home have a lot of interesting things. the fact that we then drove and uh, in addition to filming, we also uh, uh, brought them help, and there were basically not enough assault rifles for everyone and weapons for everyone, this is what a military man from brazhynskyi, who also managed the defense of chernihiv, uh, military commissars came to record, was not ammunition of a certain well i can draw conclusions that she was not there from the fact that i saw the movement of equipment there in chernihiv itself when she was going to the outskirts of the city to defend, that is, to repel attacks and the passage was cold , that is, two people were driving there from the armed forces of ukraine, they were in
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ammunition and two guys just a jacket on top with a machine gun there with something else and they go on a tank go to the outskirts to join the battle and then already there and volunteers already we had a lot of volunteers in chernihiv they somehow helped everyone everyone tried to er bring some help and it's march already influence, in principle, by the forces of all volunteers and good people, they were able to equip a certain number of volunteers, those who did not have certain equipment, mr. yaroslav, but according to your feeling, when was that critical moment, maybe both humanitarian and military, when it seemed now we will either break and the enemy will already enter the city and control it or we will expose it because i know that we will now move on to this topic that chernihiv itself is probably the first place that has fully survived all the horrors of the blockade and
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that even now in ukraine in many there are no cities light, heat, there are still some problems, but chernihiv actually lived without light, heat, water, all that in the cold days of march, but now, about the feeling when there was a turning point, when it became clear that it will be easier, well, obviously , the enemy will not pass, please you know the feeling that it will be easier in the future came right at the end of march, that is, in fact, from april 2. when it became clear that the russian troops had left, then people heaved a sigh of relief to some extent, but it was the most difficult period of this blockade of the operational the surroundings of the city, what was it? it was the last week of march, because i will remind you that it was already mentioned on march 23, and that bridge is essentially the only one that remained and connected the city of chernihiv with kyiv.
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it was destroyed, and it was there not from the first, not from the first west of they bombed, but they were hit , respectively, they completely destroyed all logistical supplies and the possibility of evacuating people, that is, this week from march 23 to 31 was probably the most difficult psychologically, precisely because the city was partially beginning to give up, there are no electors, no energy, no water, no heat eh people spend the night directly in bomb shelters in shelters or simply in the basements of residential buildings, no one knows what will happen next, and accordingly, there is almost no communication, that is, partly there were signals that made their way through, and it was possible to connect with relatives, but then understanding already came that there is no longer that logistical logistical route by which people could do things or
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deliver food, humanitarian aid or even just transfers that were made with huge beads from kyiv itself, i don't even know what to do next , oleksandr, you know, i read the story er, maybe you know the name again and tell me. i read a story about a er farmer who actually brought milk for free during the blockade. personally or tragically or not tragically, but this is the role of farmers, especially since by the way, the enemy in chernihiv region shot farmers, shot cows, destroyed, killed people, and farmers actually showed their heroism all over ukraine and in sumy region , in chernihiv region, in kharkiv region, in kyiv region and they helped and supported and somewhere with weapons they had
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the opportunity to go out to hunt the enemy and well, in one word, you really know the village in the good sense of the word, but here in the bad sense and it cannot be , it became again the support of the resistance movement and the support of the ukrainian army. please, sir , more about these people who are from near chernihiv. are they farmers or landowners who came and fed somewhere, maybe they helped at the risk of their lives, in fact, please? well, in fact, stories about farmers, uh, i heard that someone in the region has in principle, the city did not deliver milk except for volunteers. also, the city came there because chernihiv was under blockade, that is, bringing milk from the region to the city was clearly provided there, but there are many such stories. at the beginning of april, we traveled together with schools. and almost immediately. there on the second day after pre-occupation, they went to the settlement of lukashivka. where was the farm, this is a terrible
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phenomenon, that is, half of the cows are killed, half of the injured are walking, and why do this is not clear, and stories about people in general, uh, everyone is a farmer or it's a teacher or it's a seller from a store. everyone joined in protecting the city at that time. for example, hunters from one border town after the departure on the first day of our border guards took the equipment of the border guards. at that moment, they tried to somehow beat her so that she was in a non-working state so that she would not fall into the hands of the enemy, but with the number of border guards that we had at the time of the full-scale invasion, it was clear that there was no point at all at the border to hold these positions, that is, they left, the equipment remained. the hunters at this moment take tractors,
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go to the border, take this equipment, hide it in certain places in the fields, the equipment that was in a faulty condition, uh, they fix the entire occupation , and then hand it over to the armed forces of ukraine in general, they calculated it, according to the persifizer halyna shlyachovtsova, it was just officers of the border service that, in general, these men handed over. then, after the deoccupation, they returned to the armed forces equipment worth uah 20 million. there were also field kitchens. there were some kamaz trucks and ammunition and everything in a row , that is, there are many such stories and thank god that we have such people, and i emphasize once again that chernihiv, in my opinion, still survived thanks to the communication of local people together with to the military and the ukrainian spirit, yaroslav, i will ask. yes
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, kiev entered the main battles, of course, in the west , northwest, with the enemy, this is irpin, gostomel, and moschun, also a key key battle was demydiv kozarovychu, where they stopped the enemy, and somewhere there they tried to bypass from zhytomyr highway and to go to belgorodka, but in any case, there was more from that side. well, they also came there from the east, then later sumyshchyna reached through rom , but still, if this large column passed from chernihiv and approached kyiv, it would be significant it is more difficult here as well. the question is what would have happened. we don’t know what would have happened and whether we felt it in chernihiv. at that time, you know, it was cold, painful, hard. i understand that battles were taking place and in chernihiv you could hear the battles going on everywhere, how it hums and bangs there. and whether there was a feeling that you are now holding kyiv with your own strength and what is this feeling without one side you are in pain you are scared you have no light warm water on the other side you understand that this whole influx
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she can take such from well in principle the question of ukraine itself existence will be under a big question the feeling that you have covered kyiv back, what kind of feeling is it and to what extent was this understanding among people or was there no such understanding, here we are fighting and fighting and somewhere there, kyiv, please, you know uh, in principle , you can't say that there is a feeling of a certain heroism in this, this is it was the duty of our citizens it is the duty of all of us to protect our native land and it doesn't matter where it was located, kyiv or chernihiv . it is clear. and the fact that if uh-e passed kyiv uh-uh, the consequences could be more tragic, but in any case, each person, each a citizen of our state must understand that the war is not going on somewhere here or not going somewhere far away er somewhere like now there under bakhnuv there or under kherson or anywhere there is a war going on in our state and even
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now we are trying in every way to pretend your shoulder eh that eh that region you are there for me now the same hostilities are taking place that we felt in march months ago, to say that this is some kind of heroism, well, this is the heroism of all ukrainians who are able to unite at the same time and achieve a certain result, oleksandr. i remember this video when the hail is our hail of the armed forces of ukraine worked for the enemy in the very place or was it near the catherine church. well, i won’t say for sure right now, but in appearance it looks like that, well, it’s like that . fire on enemy aircraft and i was told that, well , in a modern war, this can
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not happen, it doesn't happen anymore, i don't know if the notes were fired in kyiv, but for sure now they are firing, there are various means and the police at least shot down the martyrs with machine guns on the spot but there was such a war and the fact that in chernihiv, right from the city limits, near the historical center , this fire was leading. this is how we see these shots now, and describe how it is a war in the city, ah, someone survived it, someone did not survive it, more people, after all, no they waited, thank god that the enemy came and entered precisely in their city, but these experiences should be evaluated, understood and understood how people reacted to it, because you know that today our hail is shooting and you don't know that tomorrow there will be no foreign hail here, how did it feel, please uh, i'll say so , what's up to feel it, to understand it, as it is a war in the city, it is necessary to experience it, that is, to explain the impossibility, for example, at the end, here is how yaroslav
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said that on the 23rd of march, the bridge over the desna, which led to kyiv, was destroyed, then mers gave the following figures that 130 e-e remained in the city thousands of people, taking into account the fact that 280,000 people lived in chernihiv, that is, these people who remained, 130,000, were here who were there to play, who worked near the catherine church, this is already after the departure of the russians, that is, they left, this was at the end of march, he worked there in general around the city, she worked every day aviation is then there from the end of march, they realized that there is no point in letting it here because it is constantly shot down, and the city began to be bombed from february 20 to february 26, if i am not mistaken, it is now on the screen. by the way, the footage is the epicenter is on fire, it’s also there, the beginning of a full-scale invasion, they immediately hit this
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shopping center. it was located in our ukraine, the city of er and was destroyed, that is, in order to feel it. well, this is scary, it’s scary, it’s understandable , and the people who were here, children and elderly people and young people to sit and wait for a shell to arrive . i think that the civilian population was very scared, for example, also at the entrance to chernihiv, er, in one neighborhood there was a dormitory where russian artillery or aviation also hit people were hiding in the basements there, and whole families of people died in that basement, er, that is, i can convey these emotions. it happened many times , both for work and for a volunteer test. well, we traveled around the city , helped people, filmed everything, and just you for two hours one and a half hours there, are you still hiding with the
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boys or where did you find shelter yourself because the city is being shelled and this is the center of the city? well, it doesn't matter what area it is in the city, what matters is that there are people living here who can go out to get water at this moment here we also went to the shooting and people got into it we left for water half an hour before our arrival , a mine was hit by a car, two people died, two were injured, but they still survived. it was terrible . what kind of emotions really? movies, literature, we won't get anywhere without it. well, this is natural, because you really know when you live in it, you live in horror, you experience some kind of adrenaline
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. you are at this moment and then of course from afar as they say the big ones see it better and the great feat of chernihiv will be seen even better from afar but now i would like here is something else to ask us for literally eight minutes but we have to talk about it because uh different experts they say that sometime in february, the student is interested again in february, the enemy may try this a second time, as they say, step on a rake and enter ukraine from the north, from the territory of belarus , from chernihiv. they were ready. let's say it like this. thank god that the armed forces of ukraine were ready. and now, what are the feelings of the citizens, do they think about it, are they reading the news feed? is this thought still
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sitting in my head? and if she licks yaroslav again, please. well, you know for sure, having such a neighbor. we have to keep this thought in our heads every day, because even after our victory, we have to think about it so that it does not happen again. -and the main difference between february of the 22nd and possible february of the 23rd is our readiness , first of all, it is the readiness of our military, because all the advances now, as far as you know, they are very heavily guarded, mining is taking place. well, of course there are not many military measures in order to prevent a repeated invasion of ukraine from the northern side from the side of belarus, and from the point of view of civil protection, shelters were actively formed in the city in the summer, these shelters are
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fully equipped with the necessary equipment and bio-toilets and generators and water bottles are also installed. that is, this is what helps people in critical situations. that is, there will not be such a situation when people felt a certain heightlessness without having any water, communication, and of course electricity, from the point of view i don't know about mobilization, i don't know what, again, there are a lot of volunteer groups of charitable foundations that also work, monitor this situation every day and are ready to stand shoulder to shoulder with our military for protection, that is, the difference between us and february and us now consists in the fact that we are what we are we already know we already have some experience and we know how to act, that is, we will no longer have this panic that was in february of this year oleksandr well
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, actually chernihiv and kharkiv, i am certainly not talking about donbas, there is a separate story there ... it has its own special cities, near which battles were fought near their borders, because there the enemy entered from the belgorod region, here the enemy entered from belarus, but it is all on the borders, sumshchyna. also there, let’s say trostyanets, okhtyrka, but here the enemy did not enter the city. but the enemy was near the city and when these battles were going on near the city, you could hear everything, or was it somewhere? the noise was far away, and people lived here with their problems and troubles, shelling. it's cold, cold, there's no light somewhere, and there's fighting somewhere. after all, it was so close that uh, how they say that people emotionally and mentally participated in these battles anyway, because you are here to go behind your back in your army, please, oleksandr, listen, well, i don't think that people at that time, uh, divided uh, explosions, where the battles are going and between the explosions of hitting a
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house in a private house or in a hospital i say that on february 26, the russians already carried out the first airstrike , it seems that the chernihiv city hospital was destroyed, i went to the shooting then, i remember uh, that is, the city was burning, it was one uh, big bombardment of chernihiv, that is, people were here and now, roughly speaking, the fighting was in them with a tray when a large house is seized from the air force, a thousand air bombs hit a house in the center of the city, i don't think that people, uh, well, they didn't feel what was happening somewhere there , uh, the battles near chernihiv, they entered chernihiv , they were in the epicenter area, but our armed forces they were stopped there, in principle, they were there in the first days there, back in february, in april, we tried to go through the epicenter through the outskirts of the city, but it was already chernihiv and chernihiv was bombed, now you can see the footage, this is
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also the center of the city, these are the houses that were, uh, these were airstrikes by the russian army then also killed a lot of people there. at the end of march, there were only a few people left to live in those houses. in other words, everyone either left or uh or they were killed in a short time in our place, literally 3 minutes p. oleksandr, i wanted to update. is there now the numbers. perhaps you, as a journalist, were interested and do you know if there are any figures on how many people died, civilians , we are the ones. now we will talk about the civilians in chernihiv and chernihiv oblast. maybe the missing persons there are also counted. is there any data, did someone track them and voice all the data, please yes voiced to be honest, i try not to talk about those numbers, because these are such demoralizing facts for the population and for everyone , that is, in chernihiv, up to 300, oh, up to
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100 children died there, it seems. that is, understand now to say about these numbers, which people died, then we will talk about it. we will already sum up after the end in order to make it clear to everyone now, it is really better not to name the numbers, but it is so that everyone will understand the price, the price of what chernihiv stood, kyiv stood, this is a big price and human sacrifices i am yaroslav i will give you my word now and then i will give you the word and then alexander today is the day of the armed forces of ukraine you stood when a warrior's back is on you here you stand for her ukrainians and say what you want to say to our armed forces, yaroslav, please, to our football forces of ukraine, first of all, i want to say, thank you very much, very low bows for protecting our place, protecting us every day they defend our country from the
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invaders so that we, together with you, feel more or less safe now and can continue our lives, we communicate every day as volunteers with the military, you know, there is no more self-confidence when you communicate with military, because this confidence from them simply inspires, first of all, it inspires civilians to continue living their normal lives. because uh, this confidence gives that our guys know what to do , our guys are experienced and our guys and they will be able to protect us and it will all be passed between each other for literally 20 seconds, but protect yourself protect yourself first of all, well, turn to all the volunteers for help, because this is our common answer, but i will ask you very briefly a
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is it possible a military person whom you saw and communicated with during the period when the battle for chernihiv was such and such for you, when you talk about the armed forces, do you see him or is there such a person from some is it possible that something is related in your life to your history or not then or if not then in general you can say a few words for the armed forces eh well first of all yes happy holiday to all those involved with the holiday glory to the armed forces and thank you for eh you are eh lower the enemy then let's lower now and soon ukraine will be free. of course, this is my friend from azov , oleksandr tarnavskyi, he was here in chernihiv he is at the beginning on february 24, we met with him near the blood transfusion center eh and he brought guys who also donated blood and says that eh sanya everything will be fine, everything will be okay, we are a city advocating to finish a lot of interesting things sanya everything
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will be fine ok, we should end here, thank you very much, yaroslav yachny oleksandr kotenko, were with us in the battles that saved ukraine, the seversky frontier . today, we talked about the great price paid in chernihiv and severshchyna in order to hold back the enemy on the approaches to kyiv and keep chernihiv, thank you very much, take care of yourself, this was a program of vasyl's worldview, see it from the press and see you later, we have incredible, very good news about ten-year-old pasha derevyanka , he was found, the boy's relatives took him out of the occupied territory where he had been for a long time, and now the child is finally safe, we we are very happy that pasha managed to be saved so far. this is of course the most important thing, but at the same time we understand how important it is now to help the boy psychologically, to support him, to find the right words, because he has to survive without exaggeration, there was complete horror
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at the end of september. pasha and his mother, fleeing from the hostilities, tried to evacuate the village of kupiansku nozlovi, but the motorcade in which they were traveling came under artillery fire. here is the actual video from the spot, the picture is really scary. pasha unfortunately , the boy's mother died on the spot details of this terrible story then pasha's father told us that he did not evacuate with his family that day and stayed in kupyansk after all this happened first about the fate of the son was not known to the husband, the child was considered missing, and then the father sent a video in which he recognized pasha, they gave me a link, they sent me a link to a video where there was a plot in which the column was shot , and there i recognized my son on the video, here are fragments of this video on it really is pasha derevyanko here,
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he is in one of the hospitals of occupied luhansk, the boy is alive, but unfortunately he received a shrapnel wound in his hand, and the worst thing is that his mother was killed in front of his eyes. you are the one with whom i go here is depravity i don't know now or not my mother died on the spot i gave up on one side i'm glad he's alive that's the most important thing but i can imagine his condition which child he had a mother and maybe an uncle
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