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the church can join the protests organized by the offshore party and the socialist party - this is about the moscow parties. due to the competence of some people from the government , there is a sharp increase in the rating of socialists and the shor party , and this can lead to national discontent and the overthrow of this government what is putin's desire for this is his dream to establish a kremlin party in chisinau, which will consolidate the new kaliningrad for russia, this is the consolidation of the russian
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army, all transport corridors are closed and we will create many problems for ukraine, romania and the whole nation, mr. anatoly in russian at the end very briefly you said that the current government of moldova will have to reform some sectors of the energy economy, including but you are the minister of defense in in the past, how would you evaluate the intensification if it is generally about the defense of ulyana, the possibilities of the capabilities of ulyana, help, the possibilities of the republic of moldova to defend itself in the event that you see that the neighbors are having such problems with russia. are there any conclusions from moldova and are they preparing to launch their own defense plant or cooperate with their
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nearest neighbors more closely in this sector? i can see this picture very clearly. they help a lot, expresses his opinion the concern here is with the situation of the republic of moldova and that's where it all ends. this is the main weapon that the european union now has. shoot down russian missiles, it costs 500 million dollars, one missile costs 10 million dollars in the republic of moldova, there is no such money, and no one will give us such complexes . to understand only
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eh anti -missile anti-aircraft defense, the rest put it at the primitive level at which it is now defensively ready with cubes moldova money can be sent to arming ukraine. ukraine is tied up in the most modern weapons. moldova, if ukraine, uh, will destroy the russian army in ukraine, not one russian soldier will reach moldova, not one will not reach moldova, they can just shout and scream from the stanomkin tower, but nothing else will happen, they can cut off gas, electricity there, but there will be no wars the russian
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boot will not step on the moldovan one, that's why i'm telling everyone, in kyiv and in chisinau and in bucharest and others, help ukraine, arm ukraine, she's shedding blood for our life, for our freedom , for our democracy, we must give money что мы можем давать мы большое сейчас давать not in 5 years and america and europe and nato will show less concern and give more money and weapons . of the pre-war past , ukraine and moldova are planning to build a road bridge across the dniester on the border, the government informed us about this prime minister denys shmagal met with his counterpart from moldova and discussed joint steps towards european integration
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we remember that moldova is also ugu slowly approaching the entry into the european union, countering russian aggression and informational propaganda of russia, cooperation in the field of energy, logistics and in the field of trade and economic cooperation, they say that this bridge will help er hmm increase er and make movement more free between e countries and people and goods, well, actually, that such positive things are definitely eh. now we will talk about what the people in the front-line and de-occupied territories need most, that is medicine, and we are in touch with you, marina dvorska lita, doctor, otolaryngologist, member of the medical mission on the front lines and to the occupied territories of the ukrainian-israeli organization frida maryna, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good evening before everything i want to thank you very much i know a little how you break out of your
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usual practice with your colleagues, take it away from work and on more or less free weekends, you try to go there where you are so much expected, and the organization, i am ukrainian-israeli frida , has already held several such outpatient appointments residents of the de-occupied territories of the front-line territories very often such receptions take place, well, of course, in bomb shelters where people can bring them. and by the way, small children who continue to be born actually under bombs, and this is a particularly terrible story, humanitarian and medical aid also consists in the fact that this team of doctors brings people the necessary medicine and this team consists of doctors of various profiles, and ms. marino, while there is a connection, will immediately ask you to tell us a little more about yourself and your colleagues, about the results of your last visits there
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we were in the kharkiv region, we were also our trip - this is kherson, we actually saw chernobaivka at night, and what can people say, it's difficult because there is no access to medicine at all, there is no access to medicine at all, thanks to israel, we can provide them with the necessary medicines, we can provide them with such resources as doctors who examine us, we have ultrasound machines. that is, if there are any acute conditions , we can hospitalize them in the hospital, take them somewhere in the hospital, help people in such a difficult
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time for ukraine, maryna. please tell me if there is some stories that personally impressed you the most and maybe you can tell about the people who come to you, with what mood they do it, what they need the most audis are many, from small to large , most of the people who stayed in such areas live on gas, no water, well, no conditions at all yes for existence, ah, everyone seems to say as one, no, we will not leave from here, because i ask, why are you not leaving from there? no, we will not leave, because this is our broken house, but these are our native walls, this is our land , and we do not want to leave it, they believe in our only those people remained victorious there, that is, there are
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no collaborators, they believe that we will win. and we will win, and there will be many. let 's try to get in touch again by phone, colleague , please. marina dvorska, doctor, otolaryngologist, member of the kynia medical mission on the front lines and to the occupied territories of ukraine, of the israeli organization, frida is like that joint er work er mainly these are ukrainian doctors who really break out into volunteering and their usual medical practice from their jobs instead of er well let's say that just to rest time with their relatives, they go to people who need them so much. let's put it this way, the uniqueness of this project is that not only therapists or, let's say, pediatricians go, doctors of specific profiles go, that is, people can eventually receive consultations from absolutely narrow-profile
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specialists in the context of how i understand the diagnosis because the key to successful treatment is the correct diagnosis marina we would like to continue please tell me personally it is not surprising that you with your mission are the last hope for these people now it appears on the front lines and in the occupied territories, because when i listen to you, i don't quite understand why the state does not provide this most basic human need, the occupation will come and , uh, in hot spots, you know, i don't have an answer to this question, maybe you can contact me to the leadership of the state or those regions that, er, somehow manage in essence, but i want to say that most of the help now comes from various charitable organizations and foundations, and there are always those
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organizations that invite us and meet us for example, we go to donetsk region. yes, and there we are met by a charity organization as a base, and then the guys who are involved in the evacuation of people, that is, they are similar to the evacuation of people. that is, those patients who are there and who need it. when we go to the kharkiv region, there is always a co-operative or a pivovarova fund with us, which also helps people with isoments and, er, with all kinds of personal hygiene products, warm things for children, toys and so on, each organization in its own way tries to help people in such a difficult time, but we are already
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trying to help from a medical point of view, what do hospitals look like now in the de-occupied territories and in the front territories, are these institutions functioning at all or are they destroyed, we have changed - well, sometimes it happens that we receive directly from the basements of these hospitals, er, or half-destroyed, er, some rooms where the windows are blocked or something else. well, in donbas, there are almost all dispensaries, all hospitals, if not completely it is true that most of the hospital is intact, everything is fine there, even all the windows are heated and well, that is, it has already been adjusted to work, unfortunately in kherson there was not such a number of doctors to ensure the reception of outpatients there is a need for
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doctors there more or less left er, middle medical staff, but doctors. unfortunately, the problem is marina. do you have the impression that everything will be restored , it will take a little time and our people will return, and there is no way to put our ukraine on its feet. marina, she will stop. do you have the impression that the occupiers purposefully destroyed medical institutions and created conditions under which people will not be able to receive medical care, we will not give up, we will win this war and show everyone that there is no need to insult us anymore, thank you for your work, marina dvorska, doctor, otolaryngologist, member of the medical mission on the front lines and in the occupied territories of the ukrainian israeli organization frida, who will again go to the people where
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they are needed so much. thank you for what you are doing, ms. maryna. we continue, and we do not forget that today is the holiday of those who are protecting us now at the front holiday of the armed forces of ukraine a-a it is worth saying that among our colleagues there are also those who went to defend our country and our territory in the front line about them and about those who in general protect our sleep and our peace let's see the material music stage and favorite bandura accompanied taras stolyara all his life he is an artist of the orchestra of ukraine on february 24, a musician without experience left creativity to serve in the armed forces of ukraine and i think that i and many others did not think that such a thing
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was possible that humanity simply went in a slightly different direction and any conflicts or someone's desire to explore their will will be implemented in a different way. but if we get into such a medieval age again, then we have to work again and do the way our cossacks used to do puzzles . and well, the situation is actually very very. this is taras. he worked as a lawyer for 22 years without any combat experience, but his inner convictions forced him to join the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine. well, this is, first of all, my duty.
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citizen as a man to protect the state here, i understand my own need, since from the first days i have been serving, i have been successfully carrying out combat orders, there was such an understanding that it was actually on the edge, you see, the state, and there was an understanding that either we will be defeated and ukraine will not become or in of another state ukraine is everything to us, our state is everything to us i congratulate you interview on the first western my name is viktor bishchuk and the tv channel the first western but on the first day of the long-ago invasion, i changed the classic suit and studio to wearing a military uniform with a machine gun at this time on february 24-25, i did not consider other options for behavior other than to defend my homeland, my family, my city, my streets, er, for me somehow, well, the question did not arise at all er, to flee abroad
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or hide or don't know how to pay money or something else because it's absolutely natural to protect your family your country your family on the one hand the cold is coming we understand that it's not easy we understand that we've been here for more than six months in the east but on the other sides we and what options do we have we must stay until complete victory, because the enemy will definitely come to our home. iryna klimanova, a volunteer volunteer and public activist , is currently saving ukrainian soldiers of the 103rd brigade of the territorial defense forces. during her time at the front, she saved dozens of military and civilian lives. her position was in america and she will be one from the most e-e in the army because there are actually not many medics and there are always open vacancies in the armed forces of ukraine, and i thought that
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this is a strange knowledge. what kind of knowledge do i have ? i can save lives in the east, this war is finally a chance to end the long-term war with an aggressive neighbor, which has actually been going on for a long time, and that is why i , our children , should actually put an end to this. - the educational center of haydamatsk sich from the first days of the full-scale invasion, he enlisted in the army of haydamatsk sich. i congratulate all my friends with a wonderful autumn and remind our father bandera of ukraine-mother we for we will go to war in ukraine today, the most active among
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us, the strongest, you can say in spirit and body, they are here on the front line with weapons in their hands, they have stopped the enemy , they have already begun to liberate our territories from the enemy, it is important to destroy us as a nation, destroy our culture, our ukrainian consciousness, our traditions , our language, for hundreds of years, they are this tried to destroy and now this is such an era of this struggle today either we or they will win but i am sure that we will win we told only about a small part about freely going to the army in the armed forces hundreds of thousands of them. unfortunately, some of the soldiers are no longer with us, they gave their lives forever in the fight against the occupiers, but we are proud and remember those who defend ukraine and each of us. khrystyna parubiy, espresso tv channel, what are we going to talk about the ukrainian army and about the history of ukrainian
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independence and the ukrainian struggle for this independence, and with volodymyr vyatrovych, a people's deputy of ukraine and also a historian and a fighter of the terbaron of kyiv, as well as the former head of the institute of national remembrance, we congratulate you, sir volodymyr glory to ukraine glory to the heroes so today is the day of the armed forces and it coincides with the beginning of the first winter campaign of the army of the ukrainian people's republic, do you think it is a coincidence or not? well, actually the race is a coincidence. of the corresponding law of the verkhovna rada of ukraine on december 6, 1991, but the coincidence is in any case very symbolic .
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of our previous military traditions, in particular the army of the ukrainian people's republic, and that's why i'm very glad that our brigade bears the names of commanders from the time of the army of the ukrainian people's republic, we even have a brigade of knights of the winter campaign. that is, this is a historical legacy that began, it seems to me to be extremely important, and at the same time we are undergoing modernization processes of our army, the armed forces of ukraine, their gradual transformation from a fragment of some soviet army into actually a ukrainian army, but actually this real ukrainian is provided by the whole it is extremely important that our soldiers have some modern means of waging war, but it is also important that they feel that they are continuing
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the struggle of previous generations. how did ukraine then fight for its independence? it was actually a war on three fronts. it was about two russian armies, red and white. it was about the polish army, and really the situation was completely catastrophic it would seem that the struggle that began for the independence of ukraine in the 17th year that it will already end, but just this winter campaign of the first winter campaign that began on december 6, 1919 and lasted almost six months of the 20th year, which took place in teranams of the zhytomyr, kyiv, cherkasy, mykolaiv regions, he showed the actual potential of the ukrainian army from the ukrainians, he showed that none of the occupation authorities had established it seemed that it had been established forever.
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ukrainian territories moreover, in addition to this winter campaign, there were also mass ukrainian peasant uprisings, the ataman uprising, the ataman movement that developed at that time . that is, it is also what, uh, we see now how ukrainians are resisting, we were witnesses to this and already more than 40 years ago, the only it is very beneficial for us, the difference for us now, the difference is that , unfortunately, the events of 19-20-21 years, the world actually did not support ukraine, in fact did not want to see ukraine now. thank god the world is on our side and we receive both political and military aid , you see, you have already started to answer my next question about what historical parallels there are, see your colleague oleksandr skrypnyk , a researcher of the history of the special services, writes such an interesting article. and actually, i will read an excerpt from it to
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characterize the mood that prevailed among the white guards, for example yuriy tyutyunnyk m.m. cites an excerpt from a conversation of a member of the russian commission on accounting for military livestock, e. this conversation is written. tell us the mercy of god, kosynskyi said, what do these ukrainians want? they lost, we defeated them, and by no means without a government, without a base and probably without any idea, they go and cut us on their way, what stubbornness they themselves are dying, but we are also here. they are losing, well, actually , they talked about this ukrainian stubbornness back then, and in fact, you now have the opportunity to continue this and talk about greater parallels between the struggles of ukraine at that time and today. the quote you provided is very revealing because it shows that its then and now russians do not understand ukrainians
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, the quotes you gave say that ukrainians supposedly fight without any idea, in fact, and then now we have the same and it is a very strong idea, it is the idea of ​​living in an independent state and this is what the russians who are trying to convince cannot understand i am a witness to the fact that there is supposedly no separate ukrainian nation, in fact it is this nation that wants to have a separate ukrainian state and in no case wants to have anything to do with our eastern neighbors and invaders, our idea is absolutely normal logical anti-iberian and despite the fact that then we lacked the potential to win, and the potential was lacking not because we fought less there than the poles than the finish peoples of the baltics who gained independence at that time, but we would have lacked the opportunity precisely because we, the ukrainians, had to face much bigger in fact, it was a war on three fronts and, in principle
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, more ukrainians died in this war than the workers of all other nations who fought then for independence and elections for their independence and representatives of all of these other nations together because of sacrifices, we lacked political understanding of what we need a dependent state, we also lacked military resources, we lacked support for the world, now the situation is radically different. now we have an even greater consolidation of ukrainians who support their army . now we have the support of the world, in principle, there are all possibilities in order to actually put a winning point in the war that has been going on for more than 40 years, so to gain independence in 1919-1921 after all, they did not bring success and in your opinion, will we be able to a-a of course, based on this experience,
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how exactly will this experience help us now or does it help us now, for example, the ukrainian military is adopting the experience of that time. i think that the most important thing is as ukrainian society is rethinking this experience and this is a terrible experience of what happens to a people who lose their state after 1921, uh, for a while there were hopes that it is possible it won't get worse that all these disasters are already behind, but in fact, only they were ahead in fact, the holodomor of 32-33 years was ahead, there were terrible political repressions , there was a terrible second world war ahead, in which ukrainians who did not have their own state were forced to kill other ukrainians who wore the same history of another empire, therefore the most important lesson we should learn from this struggle since the 20th century, it is that we must protect our state, that the state is the only tool for protecting us as a
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national community, that the loss of the state will unfortunately mean the disappearance of the ukrainian nation and now this is what is happening. we can clearly see that russia is again trying to carry out a large-scale genocide in ukraine. the scale of this genocide is not as successful as it was in the 20th century, not because russia does not want to kill millions of ukrainians, because it does not have such an opportunity , because we have our state because we have the armed forces of ukraine that stand in its way, therefore the main value of the main lesson of the history of ukraine and ukrainians in the 20th century is a lesson about the value of the ukrainian state and the fact that we have it save for yourself and for your descendants , vladimir, in the end, my question will be so simple and close to people, we understand how important it is to dig into every date that is in our calendar, how important it is to understand the historical significance of those dates that we have with what are they
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connected with? but at the same time, it is very important that ukrainians understand every day and try to get interested and go into history to read about the history of this day, and in this case it is very important, unfortunately, and still break the soviet traditions and in your opinion did we manage to break the soviet tradition during these eight years of our war with our beautiful and absolutely fair holidays on february 23 , december 6, the day of the armed forces of ukraine, october 14, defender's day and so on. well, i think so . i think that february 23 has already disappeared from our calendar , uh, the last such indicator is probably the fact that there are no promotions dedicated to february 23. buy your husband some cheap socks and so on, it's all in the past. thanks god, although there are still certain relapses of this when
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they want to turn october 14 into february 23 and say that let's give our boys some gifts in schools and give discounts on shaving foam or socks, that is, how he categorically opposes of this sockization on october 14, october 14 is not february 23, october 14 is not men's day. that is, it is the day of female defenders , because really thousands and thousands of women are defending ukraine now with weapons in their hands. we should not neglect this in one case and december 6 it seems to me that now literally only somewhere after 2014 acquires some kind of additional sound because, for many years after 1991, it was absolutely some kind of formal date, which was probably celebrated in order to bend over alive some kelishok somewhere only in in the armed forces of ukraine, this is truly a national day

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