i didn’t go, but just to give an example that the locals felled the trees themselves, that is, they were there immediately on the first day, not that you can’t drive there, it took at least two or three days to warm everything up , that is, i think that there is an interaction between the military and -e local population somehow worked volunteers of people who immediately started some kind of help to the same soldiers and to support the moral and psychological state of those who remained in chernihiv with some kind of help. that's how it all worked together and chernihiv survived and a plus uh, as they say the guys from azovstal themselves, what later, the troops who fought here in the chernihiv region, they were transferred to mariupol in order to capture azovstal, that is, they also thank you, do you mean the russian troops, or the ukrainian troops, russian russian troops who fought in

the chernihiv region, i wrote a guy from his call sign is buffalo, he is 24 years old, he was evacuated to mariupol, he lost his leg there, he told that later they realized that the troops of the russian federation, who were fighting in the territory of chernihiv region, were trying to capture chernihiv were overrun at the end of march. they left chernihiv and then they were overrun in the direction of mariupol, mr. yaroslav, that is, i understand that the enemy forces that were coming were trying to pass through chernihiv. the clones may have had some other ways to bypass chernihiv, if they went around chernihiv, then what kind of forces were they? well, then somewhere in early march near kyiv, there were battles in the brovary district in the skibana district, but here it is interesting to find out whether this there was a column that

came from the north, possibly by some detours around chernigov. was it possible that the forces came from the northeast? please, you know. i am not a military expert, an analyst in this regard. i cannot possess this information, but as a local resident ah i can say that there is a part of the troops that tried to go through chernihiv both from the north-eastern direction from the side of the so- called moscow highway through the soot where they were also stopped from the other side from the seventh sides, they tried to go to kyiv how about you you know from the chornobyl zone and, in principle, to bypass the partial city of chernihiv on the western side , that is, from the side of the city of slavutych, but there was a very big obstacle, that is, accordingly, the river

desna, which was quite wide, and the only bridge that could then give an opportunity to bypass the city of chernihiv from the western direction, this is just the way already on the mentioned m1 route, e-e, new yarlovichi, this is a bridge in the area of ​​the village of shestovytsia, which our military e-e blew up in order to prevent this breakthrough. how did the actions take place further, it is necessary to ask we wanted to talk directly about the military, well, in the sense that we will find out these points in future programs. now i want to talk a little about uh, terrodefense and i read a lot of stories about uh, about chernihiv and around chernihiv, where real heroism was shown by ordinary people, that's the story about two friends of hunters who are not

needed in chernigov, let's say they called fire on themselves, i won't just say that because that's what i read, you know, they didn't write names for themselves, it was amazing when two men gave data to our armed forces about the location of enemy equipment and then, when it became clear that the equipment was actually already standing in their yard, they called fire on themselves, hid in the dungeon there in the basement, and one of them survived, he was not able to survive yet, but this once again proves that the local population was ready for war. and also the battle in chernihiv, by the way, i never found out what kind of height it was that our armed forces had to hold and, in fact , almost everyone who held it managed to hold it by giving their lives, well, that’s how those separate stories are. and you tell it, you know as they say, this will give you meat the bones that i am now on this skeleton that i am now presenting mr. oleksandr, this is the teroborona. people come to the military in the first days, uh, where were they sent, how armed were the people, because if

, say, in kyiv they distributed more than 10,000 assault rifles to the local population, then this is how it was in chernihiv please, in chernihiv, he died and officially announced on his instagram channel where to come, it is still unknown why he did that, after all, an airstrike was carried out there and two schools nearby were destroyed . i went there to shoot and talk with the guys. we brought some more humanitarian aid to them. i just , by the way, regarding the help, i wrote to my e-e instagram on instagram that who wants to help, who has the opportunity but is afraid or for other reasons there is no way to prove it to the boys, they were there, i remember the first thing that was needed was clothes, socks, food, everything was taken, people began to give everything they had, they didn't think about themselves, they thought about supporting these volunteers'

theatrical defense in chernihiv to protect the place that is, they gave the last one and the people at home were very interested in the fact that we then drove and , in addition to filming, we also drove them help, and in principle, there were not enough automatic weapons for everyone and weapons for everyone, this is what the military brazhinsky says also managed the defense of chernihiv, and the military commissars came and recorded that there was no ammunition. well , i can draw conclusions that there was no ammunition from what i saw about the movement of equipment in chernihiv itself when it went to the outskirts of the city to defend, that is, to repel attacks and the passage is cold that is, there were two people from the armed forces, they were in ammunition and two guys just a jacket on top with a machine gun there with something else and they were going on a tank, going to the outskirts to join the battle, and then there were volunteers, we already had a lot

of volunteers in chernihiv everyone somehow helped everyone, everyone tried to provide some kind of protection, and already march is the month of influence - in principle, thanks to the efforts of all volunteers and good people, they were able to recruit a certain number of volunteers, those who did not have certain equipment , mr. yaroslav, but according to your feeling, when was that a critical moment is possible, er, both humanitarian and military, when it seemed like now, either we will break and the enemy will already enter the city and er control it , or we will exhibit because i know we will now move on to this topic that chernihiv itself is probably the first place that is full to some extent survived all the horrors of the blockade and even now in ukraine in many cities there is no light, heat, somewhere there are still some problems, but chernihiv actually lived without light, heat, water and all that in the cold days of march, but now it’s about the

feeling when there was a turning point when it became it is clear that it will be easier from now on, well, obviously the enemy will not pass, please, you know the feeling that it will be easier from now on came precisely at the end of march, that is, in fact, from april 2. when it became clear that the russian troops had left, then, to some extent, they breathed a sigh of relief people, but the most difficult period of this blockade was the operational encirclement of the city, which was. it was the last week of march, because i will remind you that march 23 was already mentioned, and that bridge was the only one in fact that remained and connected the city of chernihiv with kyiv it was destroyed and it was there not from the first time, not from the first time it was bombed, but they were hit , accordingly, they completely destroyed all logistical supplies and the possibility of evacuating people, that is,

this week from march 23 to 31 was probably the most difficult psychologically, because the city was partially beginning to surrender there are no electors, no energy, no water, no heat, er, people spend the night directly in bomb shelters, in shelters or simply in the basements of residential buildings, no one knows what will happen next, and accordingly, there is almost no communication i.e. partly there were signals that got through, it was possible to connect with relatives, but then i already understood that there was no longer a logistical path along which people could do things or deliver food, humanitarian aid or even just transmissions that were made in huge bags with i don't even know what's next

, oleksandr . uh, it's not free for local people, and i don't remember how this story ended for him personally, tragically or not tragically, but this is the role of farmers , especially since by the way, the enemy in chernihiv region shot a farmer, shot cows, destroyed , killed people, uh, and the farmers actually showed their heroism all over ukraine and in sumy region, in chernihiv region, in kharkiv region, in kyiv region and helped and supported and somewhere with weapons they had the opportunity to go out to hunt the enemy and well, in one word, you really know this village in the good sense of the word, but here in the bad sense and not may be it became again the support of the resistance movement and the support

of the ukrainian army. please tell us more about those people who are from near chernihiv. are they farmers or landowners who came and fed somewhere, maybe helped at the risk of their lives, in fact, please? well, in fact, stories about i heard that someone in the oblast did not deliver milk to their city in principle, except for volunteers. also, i came to the city because chernihiv was under blockade, that is, bringing milk from the oblast to the city was clearly provided there but there are many such stories. at the beginning of april, we went together with the schools. and almost immediately there, on the second day after the pre-occupation, we went to the settlement of lukashivka. where was the farm, this is a terrible phenomenon, that is, half of the cows are killed, half of the wounded are walking, and why do this is not clear and stories about people in general, everyone is a farmer, or

a teacher, or a shop assistant, everyone joined in protecting the city at that time, for example, hunters from one border town after leaving the first the day of our border guards, they took the equipment of the border guards, at this moment, they tried to beat it somehow, make it idle so that it did not reach the enemy, but the number of border guards that we had at the time of the full-scale invasion it was clear that there was no point in holding these positions on the border, that is, they left, the equipment remained . in a faulty condition, they fix the entire occupation and

then hand it over to the armed forces of ukraine, in general, they calculated it according to the personal officer galina shlakhovtsova, it’s just the officers of the border service that, in general, these men handed over then after the de-occupation, they returned to the armed forces 20 million uah of equipment there were and there were field kitchens and kamaz trucks of some kind there was ammunition and everything in a row, that is, there are many such stories and it is a glory that thank god that we have such people eh and once again i emphasize that chernihiv, in my opinion, still stood thanks to the communication of the local e-e people together with the military and the ukrainian spirit p yaroslav, i will ask yes e-e kiev entered the main battles of course in the west northwest with the enemy this is irpin gostomel e well moschun is also a key key battle

was e-e demydiv kozarovych where they stopped the enemy and also somewhere there they tried to bypass the zhytomyr highway and go to belgorodka, but in any case, there was more from that side. well, they also came there from the east, then later they reached sumyshchyna through rom, but still, if we say this a large convoy passed from chernigov and approached kyiv. it would have been much more difficult here as well. the question is what would have happened. we do not know what would have happened and whether we felt it in chernigov. at that time, you know, it was cold, painful, and difficult. i understand that the battles took place in chernihiv could hear the battles going on everywhere, how it hums and howls, and was there a feeling that you are now holding kyiv with your own strength? and what is this feeling without one side of you, it hurts, you are afraid, you have no light, heat, water on the other side, you understand that this whole rush she can take in principle, the question of ukraine 's existence will be in question. the feeling that you covered kyiv's back, what kind of feeling did it have and how much understanding did people

have ? well, you know, in principle, you can't say that there is a certain feeling of heroism in this, it was the duty of our citizens, it was the duty of all of us to protect our native land, and it doesn't matter where it was located, kyiv or chernihiv . what if we passed kiev the consequences could have been more tragic, but in any case, every person, every citizen of our country, must understand that the war is not going on somewhere here or not, somewhere far away, somewhere, as it is now, under bakhmut or under kherson or somewhere else, the war is going on in our country and even now we are trying in every possible way to put our shoulder to those regions to me where the same hostilities are taking place that we felt in

march months ago about the fact that this is some kind of heroism, well , this is heroism in all ukrainians who are capable at the same time an hour to unite then to achieve a certain result of alexander i remember this video when the e-e hail of our city of the armed forces of ukraine worked on the enemy in the place or it was near the catherine church, now i will definitely not say in the appearance of it it's like that, well, it's like that, you know, i once had a dream not long before the war. and i had a dream, what does it mean that anti-aircraft guns are firing at enemy aircraft in kyiv, and they told me that, well, in a modern war , this can't happen, it doesn't happen anymore, no i know if anti-aircraft guns opened fire in kyiv, but for sure now different means and the police are firing. at least the martyrs were shot down with machine guns on the spot, but such a war took place and the fact that in chernihiv,

this fire was fired directly from the city limits near the historic center. this is how we see these shots now, and describe how it is a war in the city. - well, someone experienced it, someone did not experience it, more people still did not wait. thank god that the enemy came and entered their city, but these experiences should be evaluated and understood, and understand how people reacted to it, because you know today our city is shooting and you you don't know what now there won't be any foreign hail here, how did it feel, please uh, i'll tell you that in order to feel it, to understand it, like it's a war in the city, you have to uh, experience it, that is, explain the impossibility, for example, at the end, as yaroslav said that 23- on march 23, the bridge across the desna was destroyed, leading to kyiv. at that time, mers gave such figures that 130,000 people remained in the city. taking into account the fact that

280,000 people lived in chernihiv, that is, these people who remained, 130,000 were here who were play that worked near catherine's church, this is already after the departure of the russians, that is, they left at the end of march, he worked there in general around the city, the aviation worked every day, and then there, also at the end of march, they realized that there was no point in letting her here, because she was constantly being shot down, and so the city began to bomb from february 20th, if i'm not mistaken, it's on the screen right now. by the way, the footage is epicenter burning, it's also there, the beginning of a full-scale invasion, they immediately hit this shopping center. it was located in ukraine the city was destroyed, that is, in order to feel it. well, it’s scary, it’s scary, it’s understandable , and the people who were here, and children and people of a respectable age and

young people, sit and wait for the shell to arrive . i think that the civilian population was very scared, for example, too at the entrance to chernihiv, in one neighborhood, there was a dormitory that was also hit by russian artillery or aircraft, and in the basements there were people hiding, and whole families of people died in this basement, that is, i can convey these emotions, it happened many times when and after work and for volunteering. well, we traveled around the city, helped people, filmed everything. and you just stayed there for two and a half hours. well, did you lie there hiding with the guys or did you find shelter yourself because the city is being shelled and this is the city center? well, it doesn’t matter. the important thing is that there are people living here who at this

moment can go out to get water. we also went to the filming and got caught. people went out to get water half an hour before our arrival. a mine hit a car. two people died. two people were injured, but they still survived. it was terrible er, some such emotions really because when, well, for sure, uh, pathos, certain heroism, certain, they will always be in movies, in literature, we won’t get anywhere without it. well, this is natural, because you really know when you live in it, you live in horror, you experience some kind of adrenaline , someone runs to the front, someone er, he is going against the enemy, someone is sitting in the pods, everyone has certain feelings because you are at this moment and then of course from afar. as they say, the big ones see it

better and the great feat of chernihiv will be seen even better from afar, but now i would like to ask you something else we are literally eight minutes away, but we need to talk about this because, er, various experts say that sometime in february again, interestingly, in february, the enemy may try a second time, as they say, step on a rake and enter ukraine from the north, from the territory of belarus, from chernihiv. now who experienced the moment when actually well, it wasn't ready there, most places weren't ready let's put it this way thank god that the armed forces of ukraine were ready and now what are the experiences and feelings of the townspeople, are they thinking about it or are they reading the news feed there there belarus is forming a punching fist or not forming a punching fist how is the city living now and is this thought still sitting in the head that and if she licks yaroslav again please well you know for sure having such a neighbor we have to keep this thought in our heads every day that even after

our victory, we should think about it so that it does not happen again. the main difference between february of the 22nd year and possible february of the 23rd year is that it is in our readiness, first of all, it is the readiness of our military because all the advances how much now you know, they are very well guarded , mining is taking place. well, indeed, there are a lot of military measures in order to prevent a repeated invasion of ukraine from the northern side , from the side of belarus. shelters that are fully equipped with the necessary equipment and bio-toilets, generators, and water bottles have already been installed. that is, this is what helps people in critical situations. that is, there will not be such a situation when

people felt a certain hopelessness without having any water no communication, no, and of course electricity, ah, from the point of view of ah mobilization, i don’t know what, again, there are a lot of volunteer groups of charitable foundations that also work, monitor this situation every day and are ready to stand on the shoulders of our military for of protection, that is, the difference between us and us in february and us now is that we already know this . we already have some experience and we know how to act , that is, we will no longer have this panic that was in february months of this year oleksandr well, actually chernihiv and kharkiv for sure well, not me now i'm talking about donbas, there's a separate story, it has its own special cities, near which the battles were fought near their borders, because there the enemy entered from the

belgorod region, here the enemy entered from belarus, well, it's all on the borders, sumshchyna. also there, let's say trostyanets, okhtyrka, but the enemy is here i didn't enter the city, but the enemy was near the city. and when these battles were going on near the city, everything could be heard, or was it somewhere, there was such a rumble, it was far away and people lived here with their problems and troubles, shelling. it 's cold, there is no light somewhere, but there are battles somewhere. same after all, it was so close that er, as they say , people emotionally and mentally participated in these battles anyway, because here you are to go behind your back in your army, please alexander er listen, well, i don’t think that people at that time eh the explosions were separated, where the fighting was going on, and between the explosions, hitting a house, a private house, or a hospital. i say that on february 26, the russians already carried out the first airstrike , it seems that the chernihiv city hospital was destroyed. i think

the city was on fire, it was one big one bombyoshka chernigov, that is, people were here and now, roughly speaking, the fighting was right under their noses, when thousands of aerial bombs are taken out of a large house from the air force into a house in the center of the city, i don’t think that people, uh, well, they didn’t feel that there were uh, battles happening somewhere there near chernihiv, they entered chernihiv , they were in the area of ​​the epicenter, but our armed forces stopped them there by force, and in principle they were there in the first days there, back in february, in april, they tried to go through the epicenter through the outskirts of the city, but it was already chernihiv and chernihiv was being bombed, here are your shots you see, this is also the center of the city, these are the houses that were uh, these were airstrikes by the russian army, then a lot of people died there. at the time, at the end of march, there

were only a few people left to live in those houses. that is, everyone either left or uh, or they were killed. we have literally three minutes. oksano, i wanted to update. are there any numbers now? maybe you, as a journalist, were interested and do you know if there are any numbers on how many people died, civilians , it is us. now we will talk about the civilians in chernihiv and chernihiv region. maybe there are also missing is there any data? did someone track them? did they voice all the data? please, yes, they voiced them. to be honest, i don’t try, well, i try not to talk about those numbers, because these are such demoralizing facts for the population and for everyone , that is, in chernihiv, a person died there. up to 300, oh, up to 100 children, it seems. that is, understand now, tell us about these numbers, which people died, then we will talk about it. we will already sum up after the end in order to make it clear to everyone now, it is really better not to name the numbers, but

this is so that everyone will understand the price, the price of what chernihiv stood, kyiv stood, it is a great price and human sacrifices i p yaroslav i will give you my word now and then p oleksandrov today today is the day of the armed forces of ukraine you stood well this is when a warrior's back is against you here you are you stand for her, you felt it, as probably many ukrainians did not feel it. and say what you want to say to our armed forces, yaroslav, please, to our football forces of ukraine, first of all, i want to say, thank you very much, very low bow by the fact that they protected our place, they protected us and every day they defend our state from invaders so that we, together with you, feel more or less safe now and can continue our lives, we communicate every day as volunteers with the military, you know there is no uh, there is no more uh,

self-confidence when you communicate with the military, because this confidence from them simply inspires, first of all, it inspires civilians to continue living their normal lives. because this confidence is what gives is that our guys know what to do, our guys are experienced in our guys, and they will be able to protect us, and this is all transmitted between themselves, protect yourself, protect yourself first of all, well, turn to all the volunteers for help, because this is our joint response, but i will ask you very briefly. and is it possible that there is a military person whom you saw and talked to during the period when the battle for chernihiv was such a person for you? when you talk about the armed forces, do you see him? in the life of your story or not well then or if not

then in general you can say a few words for the armed forces eh well first of all yes happy holiday to all those involved with the holiday glory to the armed forces and thank you for uh you are uh low the enemy then we will defeat now and soon ukraine will be free yes, of course, this is my friend oleksandr ternavskyi from azov, he was here in chernihiv, er, he was at the beginning. on february 24, we met with him near the blood transfusion center er, and he brought the boys who also passed blood and says that sanya everything will be fine, everything will be okay, we are we defend the city. we have to finish a lot of interesting sanya, everything will be okay. we have to finish with this. thank you very much . and keep the enemy on the approaches to

kyiv and keep chernihiv, thank you very much. take care , this was a program of vasyl's worldview in the winter , watch it from the press and see you later. congratulations, i ask for a few minutes of your attention and i hope that you please look carefully at the photo of this 12-year-old boy, his name is damira stimenko, and he went missing. he went missing at the beginning of october in mykolaiv, and there is still no news about him. his whereabouts are unknown. help find damira. his mother asked us to help. i talked to a woman. she told me some details about the circumstances of her son's disappearance. he was in the nikolaev social media on the fifth day of the tenth meeting. they both disappeared. the phone is turned off. where are they ?