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and i don’t have it, but the format of this is not up to the end, well , that’s why now it’s not worth it, what can be done for it, but after the end of the war, i know that many people associate nadezhda with the fact that russia simply enters and the war will drain itself so much that it will begin to disintegrate into parts this is one of the possible scenarios eh, but not eh, and if it takes place, then there will be actions from the international community in order to, in any case, suggest a little chaos, you know, the territory leaving the control of eh nuclear weapons, well, if russia does not it will fall apart, and uh, you will preserve its borders. the most important thing is that it is possible and necessary to do it, and it will have to be implemented together, of course, with the topic in russia, who will be in power to implement the program and the deep geometrization of russia and the development of very large guarantees uh, in general he refused to talk about politics in the future , and it must
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be accompanied by a very large-scale release of russian political trolls from the special services. такие первочерепные задачи описанные софевные i think that they will be solved first. thank you very much for your comment. oleksandr oleksandr morozov, political scientist, researcher at the boris nimtsov center for russian studies at charles university in prague. thank you. i mean gulyaipole, one of the towns on the front line in the zaporizhzhia region, despite constant shelling, the community is home to about two thousand people who under the conditions, these people are wintering, they saw the radio freedom of speech , i navigate with dogs by birds, it’s also normal, and the
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dogs already know what’s going to happen, we turn around and see a pack of dogs that just break into the store and pass by. that’s it, two or three seconds, just like that, right next to us, wow, i’m a volunteer feeding kittens cut driveways because she chose us here to her house, she picked us up in the garbage , brought her home, they come here with me in the 15th year, those girls are already living, everything will be fine victory is behind us , victory will be behind us and everything will be fine we believe water, concrete, from vodytsia, from burzuyka, how much is it already here, the door is shaking, then we are already going down here, we bring it chopped up. here are the people who brought us the city council. i filled up this cylinder of gas just in case. there is nothing left for the entrance of the
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two of us. there is not a single one. in the basement, this is a family. three men. well, before that, they were in the neighboring house, then they moved here, and here in this house there are two men, a family. hello, good day. well, everything is already finished. it's great. i'm going to redo the roof. a rocket of treason because what is this hail because he still has some left i split it a little and it is still rattling, you can see that it is a piece of hail here it is sticking out, you see it looks like this a little bit and it is like a damned thing it turned out in
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it by itself here all the eyes the fragments fell like this the house was damaged, there was a swing here, there was a swing, and it broke through the house , now we have to do it all, and now we started buying chipboard, we sewed windows, now we bought slate. they throw it all away, just throw it all away and leave anyway, you have to stay, you have to live, you have to restore it all life goes on by your own strength we try to do it because we have many single women and single women, they also run, what does they do, but they also have no roof 5-10 men are transferring souls there for those women well, we are already here rejuvenating lawns electricity water we have in
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the pool this is what we have a coal generator for the first time come in come now we will turn on the light how are you here we have a light in our place the battery is from below, near you, we have gas in a cylinder, a gas stove, a stove, a stove, and so on. yes, we live here. we have a down processing enterprise . to the neighboring village as a veal farm because i had to survive. it flew into it in front of me. twice i said that i would be scary but not immortal
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. very much, maybe it will end soon, all this is very much waiting for the boys to drive them all away from the whole of our country, the mayor of chernigov , vladyslav atroshenko, accuse the office of the president of ukraine of pressure on the court, and the destroyed systems of local self-government. roshenka was guilty of a conflict of interest and deprived him of the right to hold the position of mayor for a year. the court made this decision because the mayor of chernihiv in august of this year instructed his driver to take his car abroad the wife of the national agency for the prevention of corruption reported that atroshenko had no right to do so, because a driver can serve the mayor only within the scope of his official duties. in addition, according to the dbr, his
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wife crossed the ukrainian-polish border at the wheel of the mayor's official car and used it for three months, vladyslav troshenko himself considers the cases against him to be political persecution from bankova street, that is, from the office of the president vladyslav troshenko joins our broadcast good evening good evening studio good evening ukraine you know i didn't even know how to introduce you kyiv mayor of chernihiv but i don't know because of the decision of the court above whether you remain the mayor of chernihiv or not legally unconditionally yes, this is the decision of the first instance and it is obvious - for all the lawyers who analyzed the decision, it is not just, it is unjust, actually, let's first agree with the against, regarding you, it was the prevention of corruption that your used your driver, so to speak, in your
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own interests and not in the interests of the community. look, you are a journalist, you broadcast and you are the boss here, but i will allow myself a little uh, back off now uh, after all, so are our listeners. i think that they are not legal experts and i would ask the question in a slightly different way that we are not suspended for a year as the mayor of the hero city of chernigov, which, despite the enemy, stood up to attention. he was saving his family, let's say, in case the russian troops came, it was the point of pressure on me is very serious, and the driver drove abroad in his wife's car, and
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the court's decision is precisely about this matter, it was investigating this serious crime from my it is obvious that the driver drove the wife's car abroad. and for this, the judge from my side, the judge of the district court of the lviv region suspended the mayor of the city of chernihiv, for whom about 80% of the voters of chernihiv voted. of the position held. this is obviously not the equivalent of an administrative violation punishment and there are many other things. which lawyers , uh, unanimously recognize uh, the wrongful application of the law in relation to this offense for understanding. you accept this, this
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violation is really like this, you would save your wife, you use a company car for this, but this punishment is not proportionate with that, what exactly are you accused of, that is, for such and such, they do not deprive the mayor of his duties for a year, i understood you correctly, conditionally, even legally, if you look at what the judge read in his decisive references to those er regulations of the law, they do not contain suspension, they contain an administrative fine, it starts with what er and er besides well, er, i think that ukrainians are smart people, they er, let's say they will do it i think for one from the two conclusions and what will be the conclusion eh will show that either this is a step towards establishing a real democracy and eh supremacy of law and equality
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of application of law in relation to all subjects of all mayors to all eh officials who eh their drivers were there, or they were picking up the children, there were times when they were doing something else selective justice and, on the contrary, a step back from democracy and an attack on local self-government , and we are on those peacemakers who have the courage to state their position in relation to these or other economic decisions that are voiced by the same office of the president, but today, i believe that under the most important circumstances, the fact that there is a war today, the local authorities and the state authorities must unite around the president and the armed forces and solve the most important task. today, it is defeating the enemy. is the local self-government ensured the lives of peaceful
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citizens and helped the army. i believe that this is a priority. you can clarify. there is no doubt that we need to unite, but you said that it was pressure on the court from the bank street bank street. that is, you blame the office of the president because someone is there explain then explain then where do you get that i blamed the president's office i said that it is very strange that the judge of the district court in the lviv region means from the side of the mayor of a completely different city of ukraine behind her comparable to the degree of punishment with which the administrative offense was scored. if someone pressured the court, i think that 99 percent of ukrainians understand that this is a political, unconditional case,
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political, not economic, and the judge of the district court without instructions from above, and this is my quote without i would never accept such a decision from above, how far from above 11 instructions how far from above the relevant services, which obviously need to be investigated, were these all perhaps my assumption is not true and the judge is really the judge himself came to the conclusion that this is an adequate punishment for the mayor of chernihiv, the driver of which during the war drove off in the family's car. right because people voted for me so that i would protect them and protect the city, and even more so during a difficult period, people understood you to stand up not for yourself
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personally and i will stand up for the people's votes and i will stand up for is generally the position of the local self-government from and this decision is also an attack on local self -government, because we understand that anyone will be affected, thank you very much vladyslava trushenko, mayor of chernihiv we will continue to discuss this story already with the political scientist igor reiterovych, is he joining our broadcast or is he with us in a minute for a minute, for a second, for a second, more precisely, igor yaterovych, political scientist, do you hear me? good evening good evening well, from your point of view, what is behind the decision of the court that made this decision in lviv oblast in relation to the mayor of chernigov, it looks really strange. is this normal? this is actually an unprecedented decision, because we are talking about a person who represents the representative power of local
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self -government. it is the votes of the people, and that is why when the court makes a decision that provides for an administrative penalty, and no one refutes this, and in addition, i attach separately an article about the fact that one cannot hold a position for a year, well, that says of course, about the fact that there are some issues of a purely political nature, and i can probably agree with the mayor of chernigov that some pitfalls are definitely present here, especially if we remember the strange story about how he was not allowed abroad when he was going to go to various forums and conferences that took place in other countries that related to the reconstruction of ukraine. when he tried, for example, to look for some connections , including with foreign business, within the limits of his authority, i emphasize this, yes, in order to to rebuild the city well, let's recall some statements of the representatives of the president's office, who directly said that the city, in principle, can do without this mayor, a
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replacement will be quickly found for him, and someone will be responsible for the city. in any case, the political aspect is present here, since this is the next local self-government and this is a very dangerous precedent that can be used to a great extent against the side of which city mayor of ukraine well , actually you said that this is an unprecedented case as i understand it, there was nothing like this in the history of ukraine. this is the first time that such a decision was made. there were cases when, for example, deputies of local government organizations were recalled or decisions were made based on the submissions of nazk nabu and so on, criminal cases were opened there. you see, the difference here is that there was there were completely different articles. and when it comes to an administrative offense, it should, in principle, be limited to a fine. there will entail the opening of a second case, a third one, and so on, but specifically for this one, well , it looks quite far-fetched, and indeed, the location of the court is the level of the corresponding
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court. well, he says that the decision could have been supported by someone. unfortunately, in the last few weeks, we have again seen the deterioration of relations between the central government and local self- government bodies, the initiative here is more coming from the center, so i would not like to believe that now during the war, someone is going to settle some political accounts and prepare for the upcoming elections, but at some points everything looks exactly like this. well, what kind of signal does the one who sits on top and could you sue give to other mayors of big cities what should they read in this signal and this is a very simple signal, in fact, because no one here even signals this decision, you know , it has completed a certain s well, a certain certain story that we have seen in recent weeks, it directly says that local self-government bodies must fully comply with all instructions received from the center, even if these instructions
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contradict, for example, i don't know, the interests of local self-government bodies, or sometimes they contradict the legislation, and androschenko is not the first mayor to say that he repeatedly addressed many issues to central authorities , but he did not hear any answer, and when they made some e decisions at their own peril and risk , they were already somewhere largely subject to e-e future some administrative or criminal cases, so the signal here is that you do everything they tell you, if they tell you to spend money on this and that, then you should do it. well, the cream, i understand from this story , individual representatives of the central government will collect and then present it as directly their victory or, well , some of my correct actions during the war or post-war reconstruction, i can only assume that if it were not for the war, it would probably be a very big scandal and one that we would discuss for a very long time, and here it was barely noticed, thank you, thank you very much, igor ytyrovych, a political scientist, was on radio svoboda, thank you, the
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eu ambassadors will discuss the ninth package of sanctions against russia already this evening, the correspondent of radio svoboda in europe reports about it, swarm of cards yuzvak however, hungary at the meeting of ambassadors of the eu countries already opposed the planned new package of anti-russian sanctions, despite the fact that it they predicted a fairly quick agreement on hungary's dissenting position, finantimes also reported on tuesday, referring to its sources, that hungary had already vetoed an aid package for ukraine in the amount of 18 billion euros. but now spoke out against the proposal to double the eu fund for the provision of weapons in the country and to other countries, notes faynan shaltimes. well, returning to the new sanctions package, it is proposed to add almost two hundred individuals and companies, among them, in particular, military personnel, representatives of the defense industry, members of the state duma of the federation council, russian ministers, governors of politics. the list includes persons who play a key role
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in russia's brutal and deliberate missile attacks on the ukrainian civilian population, in the abduction of ukrainian children, and in embezzlement of ukrainian food, this was announced by the president of the european commission, ursula von der lägin, and the european commission proposes sanctions against three more russian banks and additional export restrictions , in particular those goods that are called dual purpose goods, that is, those that can be used by the russian military, key chemicals, nerve agents, electronics, etc. -components, and one more point: russia wants to complicate access to drones. my fourth point is that we will limit russia's access to all types of fydron drones, we propose to ban the direct export of drone engines to russia and exports to any third country, such as a tyrant that could supply drones to russia, we also do not target
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the russian propaganda machine by removing four more tv channels from the airwaves and all other broadcasting platforms, we propose further economic measures against the russian energy and mining sectors, including a ban on new investments in the mining industry in russia, i would like to remind you that the eighth package of sanctions by the european union adopted back in october, and within its framework a price ceiling for russian oil was established. and what can we really expect from the ninth package of sanctions and why have the sanctions still not stopped the war? let's talk about it further . i'm very sorry that i haven't learned the ukrainian language yet. you will have time. well , look at the ninth package of sanctions. they propose to introduce 200 individuals, companies, among them politicians , representatives of the state council of the federation.
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i have thoughts, i have a simple question, the people are not there yet, against whom there are still sanctions, it seemed to me that everyone is already against everyone in some way, in some way, they are part of the war, they are all already on the sanctions lists . eh circles of parliamentarians we require eh so that even more people from this list of 6,000 ah bulk were considered and added uh, uh, uh, uh, lit, who are in elected positions they are at all levels and belong to those guys who support this aggression in the house . well, it seems to me that this is a list
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. it can be extended even without looking at these 200 people , but what is the problem? why is this list of the bulk 6,000 they have been talking about people for a long time and in bulk, in my opinion, even when he was just arrested , he passed it on to european politicians, and this is the 10th month of the war in ukraine. and why are all these people not on the sanctions lists, do they have a catcher in europe or something there is no legal problem here i often ask the borrelia cabinet and the barrel itself, where are the people who are on the list of the bulk e-registrations e-e sledges e-e that were introduced, they were introduced, e. and uh, since we are still a legal uh state or a legal entity uh, that's what happened and uh, the heads of the government they have to do it within the framework of
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this mandate, the mandate is only for those who supports the war, so it is impossible to transfer 6,000 names here and there to the multiplayer, this is the situation that is being introduced now . in every single case, they do this kind of homework so that these people don’t go to, for example, the european court of justice and they would win there. they are not powerful, they were on this list, in principle, yes, and they are well-known. in many courts, i know that in england, yes, yes, and i fill in not many national courts . it would be very unpleasant if there were pipes they ordered us to remove them, i also
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understood what i understand. what exactly is it through this bank that the salaries for the russian military are charged, if this bank is on the sanction list, i will tell you honestly about the bank. i still did not get to the names. because i'm only uh-uh now filming here by the names of uh-uh television companies uh-uh here i have in me exactly all those that will be banned by the four propaganda tv companies and the names of the banks i still can't tell you with confidence and what are telekom and this is russia over there or that they are already boys no already yes no these are already boys i have this company absolutely so to say for internal consumption which naturally consumes itself eh this is ntv ntv mir a-a this is eh russia 1 eh - rent tv and the first channel of these
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there are no sanctions on tv holdings yet, yes , the sanctions are to concentrate on rt, so to speak, the volume of those eh in the stations that broadcast abroad . well, this is not exactly. but it is already known that, for example, hungary is against and what is not liked about hungary? and in principle, let's have a normal relationship with them, well, friendship has started to work, but there is also a friend, which is another problem. the fact is that the european commission, based on the fact that hungary
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is making step by step repeats this eh herosky in quotes is the control panel of eh russia of russia eh russian democracy began in the 2000s, they too, well, they twist the nuts eh on various issues and the european commission and for this, how about sanctions at their gate, they can do it, they vetoed the issue of them money from those money that are later the fact that many countries are entitled to the measures, but this money is granted only if these countries can prove that they will spend this money in a statistical manner, and in the case of hungary, there are many questions in relation to justice, in relation to corruption, and so on, and the european commission has suspended the payment of these money, in short, there are many billions to help 4/10 billion, this is very important for hungary, and so they decided to use your ukraine as
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a lever in order to float their billions етим тепетегиаганием канато и занаются and the last question i would ask you to generally evaluate the effect of all the previous eight packages of sanctions, especially how it affected the er-er ability of russia to continue waging this war, here we literally have a minute left er-er as you see unfortunately directly the effect has not yet happened, we see that there are problems with armaments, ammunition, etc., but the immediate stoppage has not happened, these sanctions are of a forward-looking and long-term nature, by the end of the year, it will be seen that the economy will fall next year - it will continue economically from my point of view, only more weapons helped ukraine and sanctions - this is a long-term story, this is
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additional in berdyansk, zaporizhzhia region, occupied by russian forces, more than 10 trailer explosions have just been heard, the head of the berdyansk city military administration viktoriya galitsina reports, and we will follow the events in berdyansk and subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda on the internet, as well as go to the website of radio svoboda well, instagram, telegram, facebook twitter, where you find it convenient, and also two channels on youtube, radio svoboda and radio svoboda ukraine, where we promptly publish reports from radio svoboda correspondents who work both in ukraine as well as beyond it on this radius i'm on this freedom life tells you goodbye see you tomorrow see you don't forget to subscribe give likes well, leave your traditional wishes, lines, comments in chats under the broadcast let's see how people who
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