everyone will now receive the final number, that's what the press botenko and i started talking about summing up the results of the year, and i think all our next broadcasts will take place from this angle, that's what else taras butenko remembered, we know that you have the 21st, we have to let go, well a minute until the 21st, but i think you have more time to express it, so that we may lose our light generator. yes, we are in this situation. i completely agree with the fact that in fact there is no one to talk to in russia when we are now on the state channels, freedom and yes further and today from ukraine the live broadcast from london will be called hryhoriy zhagalov today in the program the most difficult situation with electricity supply persists in the east of ukraine the day before the russian army again massively shelled several districts in the eastern region of ukraine with artillery putin is preparing russia for a long imperialist war his army

modified iranian drones for the winter if the united states is really considering kyiv's request for cluster munitions, why is this issue so controversial , as of december 8, the most difficult situation with power supply is maintained in the east of ukraine , ukrenergo reports that the day before, the russian army again fired massive artillery at several districts in the eastern region of ukraine, after the admission of the military, repairs will begin on the damaged areas, the company added, restoration work continues around the clock in the kyiv and odesa regions, weather conditions complicate the situation in many in the regions in the west of the country, frost, frost, rain with snow, strong

gusts of wind, which causes freezing of wires and their damage, previously the energy industry predicted that ukraine will be able to abandon scheduled power outages no earlier than the end of march next year if winter and spring pass in the stabilization schedules, russia is destroying ukrainian energy infrastructure in response to ukrainian attacks on the crimean bridge this statement was made today by russian president putin . the energy infrastructure of a neighboring country. yes, we do it , but who started it, he said in recent days. this is not the first statement by the head of russia about ukraine yes, the day before, to the joy of human rights issues, putin named among russia's achievements that the sea of ​​azov has become, in his opinion, russia's internal sea. after this meeting, experts stated that talking

about russia's successes is a kind of preparation of russian society for a longer war, and we will talk more about this with the correspondent of the russian bbc service oleg antonenko, who is now joining our broadcast, but already congratulations. what other indicators in russian rhetoric indicate that russian society is being prepared for a longer wars hello, putin said that the war in ukraine can become, as he put it, a long process, and this can be considered as the preparation of russian society for a long war, well, at least it can be interpreted that way. and also as a recognition of the impossibility of negotiations under moscow's conditions, at least now, at least those negotiations which russia pressed for measures, you quoted a quote from putin about who started to strike. and i would pay attention to the fact that putin seems to be justifying the strikes, he no longer has

the courage as before the war if do you remember when he said that you want decommunization , we are ready to show it, and what putin is saying now is much more interesting than what he is saying. i will remind you that on february 24, he said that i am quoting that our plans do not include the occupation of ukrainian territories. on march 16, he said that the appearance of russian troops near kyiv and near other cities is not related to the intention to buy ukraine, and now they say that new territories have appeared - this is a significant result of the special operation, that is, much more important than putin's words is whether we are observing real signs of preparations for a long war and one of these signs that you need to watch carefully is the mobilization in russia, and actually about the mobilization in russia, it seems that there will be a second wave of mobilization and putin, if i am not mistaken, said that there is no need at the moment, why is this happening if the war is going to be long, so you are right, then

stated that talks about the second wave of mobilization, i quote, do not make sense because there is no need for it today, he said, but the absence of a second wave of mobilization does not mean the end of the first wave at all. the fact is that despite the declarations of the first persons of the russian state that the mobilization is not being carried out, putin never signed the decree on its end, and the other day i was fortunate that three deputies of the moscow city duma demanded from putin to issue a decree on the end of the mobilization, well, it should be done simply, but the administration, i think, refused to register them appeal and this is just one example, the hidden mobilization in russia continues, although it is not the mobilization that took place in september and october, but hidden because it causes colossal damage to the russian authorities, the first the wave of mobilization, let me remind you, was extremely unpopular , protests in dagestan and other regions, hundreds of thousands of men left russia,

we don't know the exact number, and recruiting into the army doesn't mean you just know someone there to match someone and send them to the front on the street, it means that you need a man dress feed and at least minimally teach something and with this as we know every messenger of messages is also very big problems in russia from these messages which we can see it was mostly captured and sent to the front and by the way it is interesting what happened to by those deputies who demanded the e-e decree, another topical topic of recent days is strikes on russian air bases in the rear by drones, as it is discussed in the media space, well, the main emotion is about powerful russian commentators. how could this happen? well, but they talk about it much harsher i can’t say that to the ether. well, and most importantly, how the ukrainians did it remains a mystery, and the version of the russian ministry of defense with the help of old soviet

drones. it does not answer the main question: why did they turn against these drones? powerless, powerless, air defense forces, i have such and such a, such a size, but this is not the main thing. this is simply in russian. the ministry of defense says that the jet unmanned aerial vehicles of soviet production are the tu -141 strizh. oleksandr kots is the correspondent of somorsky pravda, but this is only one of the versions that is being discussed in russia, there is another about the new ukrainian development. but whatever it is, whatever the syndron is, it is certainly another tangible blow to the russian army and its image. well, we will try literally in a few seconds already analyze the state , including the russian epp thank you very much bbc correspondent oleg antonenko thank you and we will continue the topic together with the military expert director a of the independent platform nuji opolit express network mykhailo samusem e i welcome you

also on the air thank you for finding the time to join, so what does putin look like? we just found out with a colleague that he is preparing the country of russia for a long war. those voices about taking kyiv in three days have already fallen silent, and if we talk about long wars of attrition who will win who has more resources how would you assess the positions of the parties from the perspective of the long-term confrontation? good evening. well, of course, when we talk about a long war, a war of attrition, and we can still say that, of course here , the first role may even begin to be played by the military itself. military actions and it is precisely the economy and the ability of the state to continue to increase its economic potential and the transfer of the economy to military flights

, and this, of course, opens up different prospects for ukraine and for russia, for russia this is the strengthening of sanctions and the reduction of opportunities let's put it this way, the golden age for putin's economy has clearly passed, when they received huge amounts of money from europe and other regions for their energy carriers and could afford to steal and also increase their military potential a little, although it turned out on inspection that these are still more soviet stocks, which er, now putin is actively using them freely against ukraine, the situation is different with us, on the contrary, the aid is increasing, the opportunities for obtaining higher- quality and more powerful weapons systems are increasing the production of a-a and soviet ammunition in calibers and western calibers is increasing, and negotiations are underway to obtain a weapon system

that can further change the balance of forces on the battlefield for ukraine, but i would like to note here that listening to your previous conversation, i would like to note that the aspect that for putin, in fact, he understood a long time ago that he lost this war, the main thing for him is to continue his political life, in fact, and his physical life, that is, he is trying to throw this war into this furnace, eh, russians, eh, it's all the same to him how many russians will die there? how many waves of mobilization? today he said that there will be no mobilization after the new year. if you say that there will be goals , in principle, he is not interested. the main thing, in principle, is to maintain that balance. it is a very shaky balance. the elite that he is trying to get. and this is the war for now. what instrument will this balance take? if he stops even for a second, the balance will change and it will simply be destroyed, because

he involved everyone. let's put it this way in this adventure, which has already obviously ended in disaster, well, this balance really turns out to be too ugly here. no second message. and to which we drew attention, the russians modified all iranian drones and adapted them to winter conditions. earlier there were reports that they do not fly in winter, but here i am i also think that a few weeks ago, nato secretary general stoltenberg promised ukraine anti-drone systems, and they are already in ukraine. this is the silver bullet against the shaheds. well, actually, these systems are constantly coming to us the system refers to the ira for defense and combat . and of course, anti-aircraft anti-missile defense systems, these systems are constantly arriving, and the seemingly

outdated anti-aircraft artillery systems, including the cheetahs that came to us from germany, although there are problems with the swiss ammunition, but uh, in principle, anti-aircraft artillery turns out to be just that, especially if it is equipped with radars of the detection system, not just visual let's say that of our fighters, but still there are auxiliary systems that these unmanned aerial vehicles are still detected better and at longer distances, in fact, the last waves of strikes by e-e martyrs showed that our anti-aircraft defense is 100% effective. this is a phenomenal result - but it means that it is very bad news for russia that ukrainian air defense simply adapted to new targets eh what i mean is that you just said about strikes by ukrainian drones on the airfield of eh static long-range aviation of russia eh russian anti-aircraft defense, it is not, that is, it could be sharpened

, for example, on anti-aircraft ballistic missiles and of ordinary aircraft. if uavs are used, which are made of composite materials and travel at very low altitudes , they can simply not be noticed by such systems, including the s-400 s300 and simulations of the highly advertised russian systems, for example the ukrainian system adapted to the shaheds , the russians will have to adapt to the new - to the new systems. moreover, as far as i understand it, they do not fully understand and the same threats from ukraine will follow. by the way, i didn’t want to talk about it, but since we talked about it, what is your opinion about the tu-141, is it completely new? i am sure that ukraine is developing and can develop the latest drones that will fly a thousand kilometers and beyond. well, i’m sorry, ira . maybe, but ukraine is an aerospace country in fact

, there are 141 and we are talking about them. they were still in the 70s in ukraine in kharkiv, motor sich engines were manufactured, the kharkiv control system, well, antonov , after all, we don’t have pitchers, moldy molds , so there is no doubt at all that ukraine i don't have any drones and i 'm sure that they exist and will be. if there is a very interesting aspect here, if the russians say that it was the 141 that hit this airfield. well, i'm sorry. then they have to shoot several dozen general officers in charge of air defense there. because if you've seen what tusu 41 is, it's a five-ton machine, it's so soviet, yes, it's hard not to notice its engine. it's very similar to an ordinary jet , how could air defense not see it at all, then the collapse of the system. well, i can explain. things are a very interesting explanation, they took a lot of s300 complexes, for example, transferred them to the occupied territory or close to the borders of ukraine and fired at ukrainian ground objects , including civilians, that is, in fact, they took the

s300 off duty somewhere. ukrainian intelligence, together with our partners, can also see the radio electronic intelligence and satellite, where are the systems, how do they work, where are the radar domes, and where are the gaps, where you can, in principle, make a route in such a way that it just passes unnoticed to the airfield but if that's so, well, then they really have big problems. when ukraine will start using the latest drones. well, we just need to remind you that this is the engels airfield. well, it's just uh. well, if about uh, this one here is just an egg in what- in which needle okay, what does the development of the integrated air defense of ukraine look like in general? what is there? what else is not there? i remember that there were many conversations about air defense ok vs. missile defense. are there big problems? are they evened out now ? air defense ok but again this is it

the soviet system is a soviet system that can gradually, with such intensity of use, create a shortage of missiles - this will not get you anywhere, and no one produces such missiles, including ukraine. if we talk about the future, it is obvious that we need to develop these systems from the point of view of obtaining long -range long-range systems such as the patriot, for what, since we now have the first nasambs and rizste slm systems, they are medium-range , they are more objects. we need systems that cover the territories, that is, create the first eslo when we will be able to detect a missile on a-a approaches e-e only to the territory of ukraine and destroy them , for example, to the territory of russia or belarus if it starts in belarus, and already object systems such as e letters on the and they will already be able to protect the objects with less intensity. that is, we have enough of them for both

anti-missile and anti-aircraft defense and long-range systems. thank you for your time. thank you for your expertise . arms supplies to ukraine in the administration of us president joe biden is thinking about supplying the country with cluster munitions, but so far they consider it an extreme measure, cnn writes about this without citing its sources, in recent months , ukrainian officials and lawmakers have called on the biden administration and members of congress to provide the ukrainian military cluster warheads, this weapon is banned in more than 100 countries. but russia continues to use it, causing great losses in ukraine, the tv channel reports in its to exclusive material, a request to provide cluster ammunition about some nn a-a reported by numerous american and ukrainian shareholders is one of the most controversial requests with which ukrainians

addressed the us. and did not reject it completely, such details were reported earlier, the authors of the article explain that for ukraine, cluster munitions can solve two main problems and the need for more ammunition for artillery and missile systems provided by the usa and other countries and a way to eliminate russia's numerical superiority in artillery, we will talk more about this volodymyr dubovyk, director of the center for international studies and associate professor of the department of international relations of the odessa national university named after mechnikov what joined the air are you in boston now, did you have to meet, talk, uh, over there on the other side of the atlantic, to face the supply system of ukraine of cluster munitions, what is there? first of all, it is a moral dilemma for both ukraine and the

united states. good evening. yes, we are probably morally divided, of course, it is present here, because it is indeed considered a prohibited type of weapon by many countries, but at the same time, it must be said that neither the usa nor ukraine are not those countries that have signed any agreements or conventions on the refusal to use these weapons, and now, since russia is using this moment, because they are using what they can. and we have to work with clean hands, and here is such a difficult one moment, but at the same time, we are trying to maintain some kind of moral advantage. yes, well, i think that if you want to use cluster weapons against russian troops exclusively, then it is possible, it should be done, but at the same time, you should make sure that there are no side effects such victims of the average population, if it is only directed

against the russian troops, then i think it is possible . well, the conversations about this are taking place, it reflects such a situation that there is not enough weapons, and there are not so many of them in warehouses, and even in our western partners and allies, so we are actually looking for what else could be done, since the war is dragging on, and we understand that we need all the weapons that we can use, because the enemy is still very strong. preserves certain resources and therefore everything that can be provided to us and that we can use to liberate our territory, i think that it would be very useful for us, and the zno is the use of cluster munitions. okay, i understand that if countries did not sign this convention, then this is not a war crime, but from the point of view of modern approaches to war among many countries, this is such a prohibited technique , will it not cause ukraine to simply ah, well,

certain partners will turn away or, well , question their support well, yes, there is such a threat, indeed such a risk that well, if ukraine loses its moral advantage, you see, they are also doing exactly what the russians are doing, and it will be a certain challenge for us, but another challenge - it's simple and when we lose the ability to advance, our troops will not be able to to advance due to a lack of duties, that will also be a problem, so here we have to choose something, i think that the priority is to do everything that depends on us and everything is possible so that our troops have the appropriate combat reserves to advance, to liberate our territory, and i i think that our allies will understand this correctly, that our situation is very difficult, since they cannot supply other types of weapons in sufficient quantity, although we ask them. about this, they supply something, maybe not enough for us, but then we are forced and we will use all other possible appropriate

types of ammunition continues, continuing this topic the united states has repeatedly said that it will support ukraine as long as necessary , at the same time, part of the republicans demand greater control over the financing of arms supplies, a particularly acute it was during the election period, what is the current discourse in washington in vinegar and among politicians he can among ordinary people what about support for ukraine well, you know support for ukraine is preserved among ordinary americans american tourist sociological survey shows that the level of support is very good. although there are certain changes in the difference in dynamics, let's just say that a survey of the chicago and council of global affairs and international affairs was released yesterday. it was written that some americans are no longer as active in supporting ukraine and also agrees that ukraine should probably sit down at the negotiating table with russia.

even such other things, but still the vast majority of ukrainians support the americans supports ukraine in relation to the congress, yes. of course, this is a normal result for us. on november 8, trumpists are republicans. well, krylov of the republican party, which is oriented towards trump, and actually questions the need to help ukraine so that they did not perform very well. well, by the way, the elections with in these elections about george and de, trump's protégé punk walker lost, and the funnel from the democracies won, which already on the first day, this massive new in russia published its appeal for support ukraine and no one should deviate from these positions, ah, but the last votes here in the congress within the framework of the committee on international affairs are like that, you know, i was a little worried, because some such candidates for the republic , members of the congress who previously supported the trumpists, actually joined there

let's say ukraine, mr. poppy of texas well, but it's not about stopping aid. it's about audit, that is, more about control, inspection and monitoring of what america supplies to ukraine. look at the documents so that it gets to ukraine. there is no, that is, about this that is, thank god, the majority of republicans do not ask questions about the fact that we should simply stop helping ukraine, but from time to time, even voices that need to be careful to see what exactly the biden administration is paying, unfortunately, this will be a politicization of this issue, since the republicans will be in the majority the house of representatives is coming soon and they will use any opportunity to attack and somehow criticize president biden, but the other day, yes, the other day, macron also tried to hint at the need to hear putin to provide certain security guarantees to russia. how does the usa feel about possible negotiations with russia? is it

possible to reach a consensus even behind ukraine's back? no, i think that such a process will not happen. well, especially since they understand that they cannot impose on us some option, some result, some kind. an option that will satisfy us now ukraine has as they say subjectivity in scientific language that is, we decide ourselves we are the owners of our destiny to a certain extent our allies understand that they can not simply tell ukrainians not to advance sign the contract now, you are not signing it, but they understand what ukraine needs to sign next, as for macron, he always makes such contradictory statements, but really , regarding the security of russia's security guarantees, i don't know what i can go there because russia there is a threat to us and to the whole of europe and the whole world , that is why it is better to talk about without a guarantee of security for everyone else . attacked ukraine and threaten other parts and

regions of the world, but macron is known for such statements , one day he made such statements that we now gave, and the next day he says that he agrees that russia should be prosecuted in the legal sense for , er, in this war crimes and they are doing on the territory of ukraine one day what will he say about the fact that in russia we need to cooperate and respect and so on and not humiliate him. ukraine, that is, such a balancing act, and to some extent it is also part of the french political tradition, because they are trying to distance themselves a little from the influence of america, they say that there is no need for washington to dictate to us what to do, we know ourselves . during the time of the president, where do political traditions exist in france ?

mechnikov, thank you once again and further about the dramatic events taking place on the other side of the planet and attracting the attention of the whole world. the president of peru tried to dissolve the parliament but was removed . the head of state was detained. the first woman became the head of state. the parliament impeached the president after he tried to dissolve the country's legislative body. the vice-president eh dina bularte and now the former leader of the country appeared in photos at the police station a-a this country is already used to political turbulence but the recent events are even more so increased the chaos in peru, and it all started. thus, the temporary dissolution of congress and the urgent appointment of a government of emergency, new elections will be announced as soon as possible, so that the new congress will draft a new constitution in 9 months at the latest. potsli made this statement shortly before

congress was supposed to discuss the impeachment procedure of the president for the third time since at the time of his coming to power. last year, a former teacher who became the leader of the leftist church promised to redistribute wealth and reduce social inequality in the country, but now he himself accused of being involved in corruption scandals, was this step a preemptive move to avoid impeachment, critics of the pan called it an attempted coup d'état, but in the end the coup had the opposite effect, because shortly after that, the congress voted to remove the president to start the voting procedure to fulfill what was agreed at this session if none of the members object the decision will be considered as passed the decision is passed this is a messy end to a very messy presidency but peru was in political crisis even before pedro castille in 2020, the country had three presidents

for five days, the opinions of the people on the streets of lima were divided, i appeal to all the generals and commanders of the armed forces who must respond to the call of the president, votes belong to the people, democracy belongs to the people, and what the president did is an act of democracy he violated the constitution, you cannot transgress the constitution and the law and it is true now pedro castillo is detained on charges of insurrection and violation of the constitutional order and the country has a new leader vice president dina bulo arty took the oath and became the first woman president of peru, it is possible to take on the cause of economic growth with programs of social equality, decent employment , emergency attention to the vulnerable and full respect for the basic rights of citizens, her task

is to quickly unite this divided country. more political instability is waiting and we are putting an end to this, we will cut again tomorrow at 21:00 take care, we will all listen to people suffering from rheumatism and arthrosis