uh, because if we are, well, exclusively within the framework of the law, and uh, we are a legal state, after all, that's why if the law in our country now prohibits the activities of these specific parties, it means only one thing that these uh, members of these parties can conduct let's say yes, party activities, yes, party meetings , party campaigning, financial calculations, how the party conducts mandates of deputies and local councils, and the verkhovna rada. they remain valid, we see what is happening, they form new deputy groups, they they take an active part in the life of the same communities. i want to say frankly that in the kharkiv regional council, in the kharkiv city council, there are former representatives of the former factions of the ukrainian communist party, not all of them, but some of them are actually part of that coalition, while the majority of votes

actually make decisions only personal responsibility if someone is currently suspected by the security service of ukraine or other law enforcement agencies of committing any crimes against the state or corruption crimes or if we we are talking about direct and personal criminal responsibility, then here we see a certain work regarding the deprivation of mandates, this is not related to the party affiliation of certain people, but to the fact that there were simply formal grounds for depriving these people of, let's say, the title of honorary citizens of kharkiv oblast a deprivation of mandates - it was uh, well, i want to remind three members of uh, the regional faction of the kernes block of successful kharkiv were deprived of their mandate on the initiative of voters, so-called, that is, in fact

the party fought against the imperative mandate, so they were recalled due to the fact that they are not currently cooperating with the park. yes, we are among them. by the way, as far as i know, they are hiding in russia and their closest relatives are suspects in the state council. that is, these deputies are collaborators and that is already proven no, it is not proven, there is no court verdict, but there is, er, the material of the criminal proceedings is absolutely public. information that the father of one of these deputies and the son of another er, deputy were deprived of their mandates recently, they are people who cooperate with the russians. that is, this is the peace of balaklia , ivan stolbovy, who left for russia and collaborated with the russians. his son, accordingly, was deprived of his mandate, and the second is the father of the

former people's deputy from the party of regions, dmytro svyatosh, who has also been hiding in russia for a long time and has suspicions. in fraud and there is a suspect in a criminal case of treason, but there are suspicions. as far as i understand, i did not receive anything for this. serhiy, do all the deputies recognize war as war because you launched oleksandr doroshenko today, your a colleague said that not all deputies recognize the war at all, even in the council, ah, well, look, it’s formal, yes, normal, so to speak, this is an indicator . there we voted for the condemnation of the actions of the russian federation, the condemnation of the russian aggression for the support of the territorial integrity of ukraine, and we will see that

everyone who participated in this session - this is absolutely the majority of deputies, even from the faction of the upszh, which in as you know, we are now a banned party . they supported this draft resolution, that is, they formally confirmed with their votes that they support ukraine, well, they support the territorial integrity of our state and sovereignty, condemn the actions of the aggressor, and so on. that is, it was such a formal party. but if we let's take the previous activities of these deputies, even today's activities of the deputies , certain questions may arise here, yes, because many people in principle have certain sympathies, perhaps deeply, not towards russia as today's state, yes, to certain such russian conditions, it is because of such centimeter questions to you, mr. serhiy, the liberated territories of kharkiv oblast, those terrible mass graves that we saw there, how does the occupation correlate with all the terrible crimes that the russians

committed there, and with the current desire of the people to get rid of everything russian before this decolonization there, rename the church, deputies, it is a wave, you see it, we see that the most radical renaming is taking place . which did not have a single whole house left, about yes, in which the majority of the housing stock was destroyed, what a city in which there are mass purchases, the first wave of the most radical renamings took place , bandera street and petlyura street, etc. other similar vividly patriotic names, it happened not by the decision of the local council, which in fact does not exist now, well, it does not function, but by the implementation of the

directive decision of the head of the military-civilian administration, this position is now held by the elected mayor raisin cities mr. marchenko that is, where the city councils function where there was no occupation well, in the same kharkov, for example, fortunately there was no occupation, er, everything is much more complicated here, that’s all and they are not convincing, well, as you can see, as you can see, i hope what is the ice from the chair, we see certain movements in this direction, the deputy corps and the heads of cities, heads of communities, they are forced to respond to public demand, but again, i will repeat myself, there is a very great desire, or at least to change something, not to go like this, but it is full-fledged in a radical way or by renaming streets with expressive russian names, for example, to any other cherry and apple

central ones in sumy, they would call it periwinkle avenue, belgorodskyi serhiy zhukov yes, thank you for finding time for us, deputy of the kharkiv regional council we are talking about decolonization, dereification, how to free ourselves from the russian world, everywhere in heads, on the streets, in monuments, in theaters, and in churches in topolnaya makh, because this is... we have already gone this way from what is the difference to understanding that it is certain marking and this russian peace first marks its territory and then russian tanks come and shoot russian grads and russian rockets also fly mykola belyy joins zaporizhia city council member mr. mykola i congratulate you i congratulate you there too you initiated a similar decision the day before and it failed i mean your city council about the revocation of the mandates of deputies from pro-russian forces. please tell me what kind

of decision it was and why it was failed. well, it's really the 10th month and 90 and it's very interesting to observe the dynamics of the ukrainization of zaporizhzhia as a whole, it is very bright, and the renaming and slogans and some ideas are indeed very high-quality , but unfortunately, where this does not apply, where it does not apply to the city council and the deputies of the city council, as it turned out i couldn't even imagine that they have been sitting for 10 months. are those people who, for the first time, support pro-russian parties and support the russian orthodox church, and at yesterday's session, we presented two draft decisions on the banning of the moscow patriarchate in zaporizhzhia and on uh

deprivation of mandates and the ban on holding the position of head of the deputies elected from banned pro-russian parties. this is a video of pzh and shariy . oh my god, that's why yesterday we put up with it. 35 km from zaporizhzhia, unfortunately, there is a war every day in zaporizhzhia, there are daily flights in zaporizhzhia region , people continue to act every day, dozens of alarms are sitting in the city council. excuse me, deputies from those programs of russian parties and the head of the commission there of the budget land commission

, we also have a deputy mayor from a banned party, and this is not normal, it is possible. you know, there are good people, there are not so good people, but it is about politics and about responsibility if you ever made a decision to be elected from the opposition platform for life is responsible for that political force, our position is like this, like this, here are two draft decisions on the ban of the rpc and on the deprivation of the mandates of the opz and the series, and unfortunately, unfortunately, if they have not yet supported the rpc, no they supported it, but there were 23 votes out of 50 deputies, it’s terrible. yes, but i’m telling you, how many servants there and other factions supported us? it was

about the deprivation of mandates and the ban on holding leadership positions, in general, 8 8 52 deputies voted for it. what are the draft decisions? it was precisely the ban on holding any leadership positions or the taking away of mandates from them as representation in the city council. once again, two two two actions were proposed. is from upszh and the second is to prohibit occupation executive positions are held by the same deputies , and the deputies who were elected, excuse me, according to the quota, this is a very difficult question, i.e., neither the church nor the deputies supported anything as deputies. well

, just look at the people who were elected from these forces. well, it would seem to me that i am asking myself the question what well, understanding in the whole context, understanding everything that we have already seen what russia is doing here well, the zaporizhzhia region is generally there that is constantly under fire and part of the occupied and there is russia in general, i give it, it was real and the deputies had to just stand there and to say well, we're leaving, you're sorry, we're leaving, we're here we'll plow further into ukraine to prove our position for the next elections come over and they're just sitting quietly and sitting with these mandates of theirs did they somehow change their names or how are they now behaving, or did the deputies leave the faction, well , a prohibited political the power there, the shariy party, the prohibitionist political force, the opposition platform for life, these deputies came from those factions and are outside the factions, they were only elected, they

supported the ideas of these political forces, the strategy of these political forces, the measure there and everything was prophesied people's brains excuse me with your ideology pre-election campaigning in particular what what to do with it p mykola a-a what to do with it well now er-er sorry for me yesterday it was really there er-er shock not that a cold shower and i still still can't come to my senses yes, i don't know, i really don't understand when 30 km from zaporizhzhia, the war kills people, boys die, uh, become disabled, well, terrible things happen. these deputies

if those representatives of the executive authorities do not want to leave power, then the only tool that i see so far is an appeal to the president and a demand to run a military administration. then a person who will bear all personal responsibility will already be appointed by the president unfortunately, now the european solidarity yes, which initiates such projects of solutions, is, sorry, in the minority, so that the side of the coin is that we refuse local self-government and simply appoint one-person management of the territory, and this is also when there are a bunch of deputies who they were elected by people whom they trust, and because of these layers, it is easy to give up self-government, this is also not an option, and what about you when renaming

toponyms, is there some kind of wave in connection with the fact that the war has come so close to you, and does everyone not understand this? don't feel the renaming is being approved now look at this session about 12 streets were renamed yes uh mostly russian names there are even belarusian names uh they are renaming again most of the renaming commissions are headed by people from before psg so what about we chat and of course they rename parts of subdivisions like how it's normal to do that but well, i'm sorry, i don't have it at hand. there, again, on the street. and there are already a large

number of dead zaporozhian citizens in the war there are a large number of gel weapons whose names must be immortalized in zaporozhye street names, but i am mostly renamed to some neutral names unfortunately e-e p mykola or do people get involved in this process or just now, never, er, a bunch of problems well, i mean, i understand what is happening because, well, there is no law so far, neither about the church nor about the deputies, how to influence you in the minority in the council only people who come to the council can influence session and they will take excuse me for some seats of those deputies and force them to make the necessary decisions, we have already gone through it and it works. now what are you listening to? well, of course, there are active people from a public position. they are definitely there. of course, there are

not enough of them now. uh a lot of people are busy with volunteering, a lot of people are busy with survival, affairs, who yes, with survival, and families, and so on, like as i said about the military administration, this is possibly one of the tools of the power reset, the power reset in zaporizhzhia, of course, the ukrainization of society in zaporizhzhia is gradually progressing and of the authorities in zaporizhzhia in the last elections, the eu gained 7% in the same 15 yes, but we see that this is not enough, that they do not understand. position of the kremlin and they have some task. thank you very much for taking the time to talk about this very little on our broadcast. unfortunately, we hear and see, but we need

to raise these topics and tell what exactly is happening in the local councils right now, because very strange things are happening there which well, you can't pull it on your head when there is really shelling and hostilities are going on 30 km away, the deputies vote uh against uh those initiatives aimed at strengthening ukrainian positions mykola white, deputy of the zaporizhzhia city council, was our guest thank you, hold on fight you will win, volodymyr bisak is joining sumy region , a deputy of the district council, today we have regional , city and district councils at the very end, but the problems listen, everyone, and the issues are identical in sumy, too, but recently the deputies renamed about 200 toponyms, and there was also a periwinkle avenue kursky remained e p volodymyr i congratulate you now they will show you to me good afternoon well let's talk about decolonization where rification at all levels here in sumy the last

wave of renaming as a sumian say anything laska kurskiy prospekt has remained, we understand it. yes, unfortunately, it will be abandoned. well, i understood that this is until martial law. after martial law , the name will be changed. the proposal has already been submitted to change the name of the street , kursi prospekt. state of affairs unfortunately, why was it adopted so that after the end of martial law? well, what are we fighting for then? as churchill said, why not now? renamed because the price for half a ball and i think that the only reason is because, uh, all the people of sumy, all the deputies' corps, everyone is only uh, for the fact that the renaming will do everything and carry out all the decommunization to the end, so i only think that in tell me that this is all a financial matter well, i do not believe that there is no

money in the budget of the city of sumy to change the license plates, because now, well, this is the principled position of sumy. one of the first to meet russian tanks was on the same kursk avenue, they drove in, drove out, drove out, then, well it's just that they're getting ready to stop by from time to time, so there's no chance at all because we're here and they have a chance. well, i don't think it's going to happen, as our boys are all prepared, every day we do what we are conducting training in order to meet her, who had zero chances, i would say that in your district council with representatives and with those who were elected from pro-russian forces such as the opzzh, what is with them now, what is their fate or not, if you do not initiate to take away their mandates, it means in the radius of the sumy district

what are we doing? like everywhere else? in the rest, all the factions were renamed to the second one there, uh, for the sums, there is something else, yes, yes, we have a secretary who is the first deputy of the district council, who wants to lay down powers there, so we are waiting for his decision. if it doesn't happen on uh, there was a session that was supposed to be held on sunday, well, it didn't happen. unfortunately, i think that we will initiate a non-regular session at that time. i think that we will solve this issue on uh opzzh well, in general, he will not be the first deputy mandates, they will remain with these deputies, how many of them will remain, 10 people will remain, unfortunately, they will remain, well, these are gaps in the legislators of the all-ukrainian, this is not only local scale, it is declared here that they will allow if

we take the situation to the regional level, then let's assume that the same gaps led to the fact that the leader one of the largest communal farms, e.e., agroforests, he was fired, he established himself as the same deputy from the psg, and that's why we well, again, the rake has come. we are waiting for the verkhovna rada to decide the law banning e-e deputies who were elected from pro-russian parties. well, so far there is no such thing, just as there is no law banning the russian church, although it has been 10 months, a separate conversation, how about a few seconds before the war? i was invited as a deputy to shed light on of the church in the city of sumy, when i went down to the basement, i saw a large portrait of gundyaev. i found it, and i told the minister, father, why do you have a church in the basement in the church of the

priest gundyaev peter? how much is the cost to build a good brick, millions of dollars ago, i understood where the funding for this comes from, we in the moscow patriarchate , so they need to be chased, first of all, with a broomstick. excuse my french, what kind of cathedral is it ? kursk. there is this cathedral. well , i am generally silent about the central cathedral. well, in the city, where are the minibuses ? kursk and moscow patriarchate. well, the logic of the russian world is preserved. at first, he didn't want to use this as if to take his own hands, but i said that there should be no investigation. well, in this society, these are still religious people. is she paying, or is it

normal for these funds to enter ukraine? therefore, it is necessary to adopt laws at the state level as already. well, as i saw it, the wave has already gone. i really hope that she will come to her senses. there were churches, especially the okhtyrskyi trostyanetski district church in these communities which were under occupation, as soon as they were released, people wanted to move to the orthodox church of ukraine. what questions did he understand when, or are there proactive communities that express their desire because they can, by their own decision, collect signatures and change to join the ukrainian church? i

am. at the legislative level, it will be some kind of prescribed by law, then it will be easy and painless for everyone, because if the verkhovna rada, the president accepts it once and for all, as rude before it was banned, the moc will also ban it, then this issue will be resolved for everyone, well, painlessly for everyone, mr. volodymyr yesterday the khotyn community was shelled again . well, all the border areas are being shelled, this is precisely the sumy district, and there was a dispensary there. well, it’s a cube of artillery that flies every day. all these villages are shelled . write us a reason. we are still brothers as always. they fought first with the medics, and then they started to fight with the korobovs, they shot about 25 cows, killed 25, please slaughter them, so muscovites,

as always, at the same level, well done, the cows are yours, it’s no longer your merit, it was a farm , that’s how it got. yes, there a carpentry farm and a dispensary burned down, a new dispensary was recently renovated there 24 years ago, unfortunately, unfortunately well , we’re fine, we’ll see how we talk about local self-government, if yesterday’s holiday was like that, then uh, we’ll leave it on our uh-uh grounds war we manage them and conduct sessions and communicate with the territorial heads of the otg and help with the admissions this year, i have the mykolayivskyi electron there, they have set up a playground that is quite patriotic with ukrainian flags and the children there are very actively imagining what to do with pink motors pleases at the

expense of the budget at the expense of the district budget yes at the expense of our own savings philanthropic aid but regarding the district budget it is incredible destruction now in these border villages and communities and they are not constantly shelled does it make sense to restore them now, what is the situation there and are there any opportunities in the district budget, that is exactly what money is allocated for, well, district by district. i think that well, again, without the support of the state, we will not be able to do this, no one will do it, because not one district budget he has limited funds to withstand this there, this is such a car tears, i would call it at the state level, if of course you need to repair it, you need to wait, but according to the city of sumy, we will allow sumy, otg, those that were damaged in the spring, uh, the roofs were finished there, the windows, everything is already being done in practically, i think that 90 percent have been rebuilt , because i know how to deal with this issue personally, and in the sumy region, then already abroad, there is already well, everyone, what if there can be

allocated ? at the level of hmm, the state should. i think that the allocation of funds for the reconstruction of these injured people is for them, again, as we constantly help things with things, medicines, and does not raise questions on the sidelines, so we always can help them. how many people are left there, are there any villages where there are no people at all, well, look, they are firing like a young man - a sausage, you are a neighbor, it is better that there are people, there are people, there are people who do not leave, or something like that, i directly say to the head, this is what i am saying in principle, what do you need to bring? what else, what else do you need, she says. in principle, for now, everything is there, only there may be some building materials there, numbers, leonto, of such a plan . well, everything is fine, we will deal with it so that no one

panics, no one is in the spirit, we understand that this influx is ... well, until we stop her with the military er there will be no business on the way to kyiv, well, people are in a good mood. i think that it is optimistic, plus or minus, as i am, how else is it possible in this time of foreign light with shelling, i guess, well, you know, we are ukrainian people, we have always been strong in spirit, so i think that in it is impossible to defeat us. about defense , you are the head of a volunteer battalion, well, this is the terror defense that was formed from the very beginning of one of the urban ones. so, what is the current situation with defense , is there enough local funding to pay for something, and are there any changes in the structure planned it is local defense that means in terms of funding, the sumy city council continues to finance the dfsge a-a well, it is clear that the possibilities are not limitless , and that state support is certainly

not going to interfere with anyone. well, they failed in the fact that in recent times, if we are going to reform something like this, they are causing such confusion that we ourselves are somehow in a little despair. well, none the less, literally yesterday. today, our deftery conducted training on unmanned targets, so we bear more on the spot to our iranian ones mines to meet the guys, we are all leaving right now and shootings are taking place, so the townspeople can not worry at all about the defense capabilities, i emphasize once again that you could be in bohdan, everything is calm and p. and so it is also part of this general concept of defense. although the defense is now officially the armed forces of ukraine, but tell me