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studio together with you, we will be with you until morning in particular, such punishments for genocide canada and the netherlands joined ukraine's position against russia in the countries submitted a joint statement to the international court of justice of the united nations on the prevention of genocide and punishment for it in the statement it is said that canada and the netherlands have a common interest in achieving the high goals of the convention on genocide, taking into account the nature of genocide and the nature of the obligation to the convention on genocide , the countries have decided to intervene in this case to present their interpretation of the relevant provisions of the convention before the senate committee in the united states of america from international relations supported the resolution that recognizes the actions of the russians in ukraine as genocide, it refers to crimes committed against the

ukrainian people during the illegal and nothing of the war provoked by putin. all of them contradict international conventions. the resolution condemns the actions of russia and calls on the united states, together with its allies in nato and the european union, to support the government of ukraine in the fight against russian aggression. the document also supports the creation of tribunes for journalistic leaders and military personnel to be held accountable for crimes committed in ukraine and just now from we are in touch with oleksandr matsuka he was a ukrainian diplomat in the un and was also the head of the secretariat of the united nations security council greetings congratulations to you so the punishment for the genocide was sued, what's next? well, we'll see next , because in modern history there were several cases

when hepatitis was tried, and if we say genocide, er, in uranda, it was convicted, er, well, the entire leadership that was involved before the genocide, everyone was convicted, including politicians and propagandists and military personnel, and there was a silver genocide, which had more of a limited character, that is, it was an act of genocide. and for that, they imprisoned people who were directly involved in the executions the people of semeniv also touched the leader of bosnia a little more politically, that is, how will it go further and further, actually, that is, we are only at the beginning, at

the beginning of this path, and the fact that now we have already joined, as it was said, the netherlands and canada before that, this is very important and the fact that, most likely, the resolution of the senate of the senates will be adopted in the american one, that is, it will already be some kind of international basis for the lawsuit, which will go to the international court of justice. now ours are working allies e-e over creating possible specially to some court of a special tribunal where it will be possible to consider the crime of debicide. that is, it will not happen with a car, but it

will happen now. i would like it to happen. now we are not talking about whether it will happen or not. we only talked about how it will happen, when it will happen and how wide it will be. glory to the end. let's say so, alexander, that canada and netherlands the more countries joined, the better it is for ukraine , the more effective each of these countries will come to the court, the one that will be created or the one that exists, it will come with its own claim , in fact, that is, in addition to what ukraine can say, they will say let's say the same dutch people, they will definitely talk about the downed plane and you are already a precedent, that is, this is already a court decision where the perpetrators are convicted, but

those people who were sent there and who gave the order are not convicted, that is, for the dutch - this this this this this part of their e-e lawsuit too. that is, of course , it strengthens it, it seriously strengthens it, it seriously strengthens a possible future impossible future lawsuit of ukraine in the context of the international community, how important it is not only for us, but for the world in general, well, for the world in general, it has long-term significance because it will spread , it is very important because it will give a signal to everyone that a crime remains a crime regardless of who committed it and that it is a big country that it has nuclear weapons that it is there

a member of the security council. that is, it does not exempt her from international criminal responsibility for committing crimes . to encroach on other people's lands who will resort to some uh-uh mass murders before what russia does uh-uh on our land they will understand that they will come for them too because before nuremberg you know it was somewhere there in the year 46 half of them don't even remember what it is for them this is an ancient story. and this is being done before our eyes. it is very important. alexander, regarding the resolution

that should be passed in the united states senate, in particular, this document supports the creation of a tribunal that will allow the senior military leadership of the russian federation to be brought to justice. and how many resolutions and how many other documents? must be passed so that this special tribunal has already started to be created. the fact is that the special tribunal will not be passed by a resolution of the united states senate. i think that this should most likely be a resolution of the un general assembly. the fact is that i even read that somewhere there is already a text circulating about the creation of such a tribunal, which i assume that someone is already messing with it because the french were very active in relation to this tribunal, but so far the ions are not

shown, i understand that the members of the oun who talk about the necessary creation of this tribunal are not yet ready to show this implementation in order to conduct negotiations on the text, why is this a very serious issue, which means the resolution on the establishment of the tribunal cannot be defeated, therefore it will not be put to a vote until they are absolutely sure that it will be supported by the majority, of course, the russians. now they will actively work with whoever they can and tell everyone that it is unfair and so on you know, recently the latest resolution on ukraine that was approved by the general assembly

was about reparations. i was very worried at the time that this resolution would pass, it passed by a very small majority, and that was exactly the bell. that the next resolution should be carefully worked out with the allies and with the neutrals , so that we don't lose it, that's why i think it's not today, not tomorrow, and well, i think that until the new year, uh, nothing will happen for sure, and then the holidays. then, well, somewhere uh- maybe somewhere in the spring we will mature to such a revolution and then it will be time to create this tribunal. that is, it will not be done in one day, that is, it will be necessary to create a charter of fish naked - to select courts and judges to select prosecutors and so on. and so on if it will be created by oleksandrovych in this context as we speak

about the tribunal over the aggressor, there are opinions that it should correspond to the spirit of nuremberg. and what about the construction itself - will it be a tracing paper from the nuremberg process, or will it be fundamentally qualitative, a different format, this is interesting, of course . you have to compare this one with the bees. i think the practical matter is that it will most likely be a tribunal for the former yugoslavia because there is already kalka, everyone knows how it works, moreover, there are people who worked there who can simply be brought together to the new tribunal that is, you don't need to invent anything, it's already ready and it's the other way around. if we're going to uh, for example , let's say the yugoslav or ruina or all or save livonian tribunal, that is, then it will

speed up the process because no one will do anything there uh, come up with a bicycle because they will write down practically everything will be rewritten there, some names and that's all, that is, i think this will most likely be the case, mr. oleksandr. and speaking in terms of time, how long can the process of creating this tribunal take and how long can this tribunal consider this case against of the russian federation and the top military leadership regarding the crimes committed by him in ukraine because we saw in the case of flight mh17 how long it all took, i'm saying it's not quite a short time, it's not a very long time er-er the yugoslav tribunal er-er created created du- quite quickly a- and in due time, well, again, relatively quickly eh, if

i repeat again that if you create a new tribunal eh for that guy, it will be a faster process, and further and further, until he leaves, all cases will be completed because that same eh this implies an individual responsibility means that all the cases will be there , they will accumulate because well, let's say he , i'm saying so, the tribunal has not finished its work until the last criminal is put in jail, that's because yugoslavia must be told, he has finished his work after everyone sat down who was there or died uh who was accused who was brought to justice and how to explain a few years and how to explain the fact that the nuremberg

tribunal it lasted a year that is a very short period compared to other tribunals and the yugoslav irish well, it's not comparable in terms of terms, but if you start asking a lawyer about the nuremberg tribunal, many will be skeptical because from a legal point of view, the nuremberg tribunal was, well, it was more political than legal. it was a court of winners they defeated the germans, and that's why, let's say, nuremberg did not consider crimes that were committed, let's say, before germany attacked the soviet union.

what did the soviet troops do in the brest fortress in 1939, where they were tried because it was the court of the victors? and already the yugoslav one is needed for that, it will be all that was. well, legally, i was right, exactly, exactly , this is the main main difference, because well, we ca n't just impose, well, how to say, er, we have to. that is, it should be about justice and not about punishment, you understand, mr. oleksandr, well if we will focus on as much as possible such a result is faster while preparations are underway for the

tribunal, for example, these lawsuits, plus the recognition of russia as a terrorist country, could it lead to, for example, depriving this country of its right to this, well, in the un security council, at least well, there can be many moves, see literally in yesterday , the day before yesterday, russia was not expelled from the powers of the russian delegation at the parliamentary assembly of the black sea economic cooperation organization and it was simply won. a precedent has been set for when it is possible in what way simply do not allow the russian delegation to participate in the work of the organization, the same can be done in that there is a precedent, this is the first moment, the second moment,

look at the handsome man they are talking about now, that is, actually, he is the head of all russian mercenaries, who are not only in crimes have been committed against us, they know that they did it in africa too, and these are serious crimes that they are in. there is a problem with prigozhyn's question regarding the interference in the american elections. there is already a case against him in the united states, that is possible and his the organization is recognized as a criminal, a criminal group, an international criminal group, which is involved in terrorism, illegal trade in diamonds, and so on, and who are they and who sponsors them and is sponsored by the russian state ? in other words, this is already a concrete clue as to how the

russian state can be officially called a sponsor of terrorism not because we believe that what they are doing is wrong, but because there is a specific terrorist organization that they sponsor, that is, there are many things that can be done now which russians will they cling to in one way or another? that is , it can be a limitation of their participation in certain organizations, limitations, let's say, let's try to give you an example, and the kao of the international organization of this aviation is a red flag display on the safety of russian aircraft, this means that russian er aviation companies, that is, rotorcraft flew there and russian transporters flew, they can no longer take, say , operations in the u.s. with support for work, that is, they were making money, they were making money, now they are needed

throw it out because because it's a security issue. no one talks about the fact that russia is an aggressor country. it's a security issue. the caponent for the fact that he sold moonshine i for the fact that he is not against the tax er from this, that is, what is the difference that the commission is all the same , you are needed and it is important for us that russia is er punished for what it did and like the country and like every criminal there was involved in these crimes, that he too. everyone would like it to be faster. this is already a secondary issue, mr. oleksandr. and which countries are you participating in this

special tribunal? well, how will they decide there? well, of course there will be russians there, of course, i think so. well, as in the yugoslav tribunal, that is, they selected judges there because the process of selecting prosecutors and judges is quite complicated. i don't remember them. they are alexander. i apologize for another five kopecks. will already exist, maybe still to exist, you know, when we need it, it was created not only when he was still in power, but then other people came to power and they arrested him at night and took him away, and i fully admit that

if there is, if there is somewhere to take him, then on that at some point there will be people who will start trading with criminals in russia, it will be like this instead of oil, oleksandr, in the meantime, russia is calling the security council because of western arms supplies to ukraine . on nachamets in those times of betrayal of security, i have the impression that, as i already told you, russian diplomacy is over. it's simple. it's just that russian diplomacy has turned into a megaphone, and they come out and say something, and i have the impression that they will receive the text directly from moscow, they will voice it and they go on home because there is nothing to talk about and

well, i'm sorry, well, the supply of weapons to ukraine is more or less, it's not, it's not, it's not combat bats, it's, well , here they are waiting for the specifics, it's not like that, they are, right now see if you listen to russian resources, they are no longer fighting from ukraine, they are fighting with nato, of course they will talk about what we are ready to negotiate with ukraine, and you give them weapons, that's why you don't care, that the war continues, that is, they work for they are neutral. they are working. they want to show everyone that this is a war between the west and russia. you know what they are saying now that nato and ukraine have attacked them. that is, it is aimed at those who are not interested in what is happening in europe. that is, it is africa . and latin america to some extent a most of all, it's that they work for the

main spectator who sits in the kremlin, to whom they will then bring a piece of paper, i say, and on which it will be written how we gave them hmm, well, besides the fact that the main spectator is for whom these maneuvers are generally intended and looking ahead, if it is the domestic consumer, then is the russian government really so dependent on the domestic consumer that these are the kinds of maneuvers with the meeting of the un security council that must be done constantly and expose oneself to ridicule well, you understand that serhiyevich and lavrov are necessary too, it is still necessary to show the superiors that he, too, is enough for something, that he is doing something

. they didn't let me in. thank god they still let me in. well, here they are, they are showing what they are doing, what they are working on, this is one moment, and the second moment, i say, what is this ? they will show they want to show themselves as the main thing a fighter against western imperialism and no one ’s abism, if they are not from ukraine, they are not fighting , they are fighting from the west, who wants to work in russia and take away everything they have, connecting the toilets, sorry, no no no no no, these are not warmed up, that’s why this is this for me this is such an empty mostly demonstration of e-e activity, well

, by the way, in the new defense budget of the united states of america for 2023, there is such a clause that washington will seek the exclusion of russia and with such an organization as the g20 well, and other organizations a what are the prospects because the g20 is 20 countries and not all of them are on the side of ukraine, the united states of america, there are those who support the russian federation, what are the prospects of excluding russia from this organization ? in this regard, what do they say that russia should stay there ? well, you know, g2 is, after all, an economic organization. if you look at it this way, it is an organization that discusses economic issues, in principle

. g20 because well, it has a special role for me as an economic power. it does not play a role. that is, this vessel is a political issue, and the chinese and the indians will be against it. because they need, well, the voice of russia, actually . they want to protect russia, they need the voice of russia in order to protect their interests, because russia will support them in various issues, that's why it's the first, and the second always arises in me in such cases, i have the question: is it necessary because it 's a waste of resources spent the resource well, russia now, a member of the g20 has arrived recently, mykhailo, he came, in my opinion, it was more shameful than russia was expelled from there, they would not have come from there and

told everyone that this is all because of a machine, and they came there and felt ashamed let's go back. well, it might be better that way. because we are a tractor resource, that's the same. if you expel russia from the g20, it means . they need something so together it's it's an expense resource i don't see the point of this, oleksandr. we thank you very much for the resource you spent. it was definitely useful. oleksandr matsuka, a ukrainian diplomat at the un, was the head of the united nations security secretariat. he was with us in this block for the city of bakhmut and an important supply line and ideologically the valuable cities of sloviansk

and kramatorsk, the capture of which is considered by the military to be the starting point for the victory over donetsk region. our scouts work on the advantages and difficulties of defending the city and why the guardsmen are confident of the ukrainian victory in the report of the national guard of ukraine , this is what bakhmut looks like now, almost all the buildings are destroyed, but there are people in one of them, we saw that several people live on the street, they are preparing food