and so on, but relying on the fact that people will change their understanding in america in the white house is dangerous because many of them are not able to really change their views because, as you remember, the ukrainian war is only 5 minutes on the agenda in the white house, while american economy and politics 80% of them don't think about ukraine all day you're lucky if you get 10-15 minutes a day the rest of the time they worry about their votes and democrats and republicans worry about winning their american business so you you need to think differently, i suspect that you have the same problem germany has historical ties with russia wants to return to good cheap oil so that the german economy can continue to develop france with macron who wants to be the leader of europe and thinks he can negotiate with putin because

conceptually and culturally he has no idea what putin is and he doesn't try to figure it out, that 's why we have a problem with these sverhs, yes, on the one hand, i understand what is causing the so-called cautious strategy of the united states, it is quite effective but there is one thing, but our brothers and sisters are dying every day, russia is shelling us every day and is preparing to commit an act of winter genocide, in particular, it is about the destruction of our civilian energy infrastructure from the other side. a russian rocket flies into the territory of poland, well, this is one story, as if by chance, then a rocket accidentally flies into the territory of moldova, and we understand that putin will use this psychological moment, so to speak

say try to intimidate our european partners because a is possible - says putin, it's kind of unclear if i'm a missile can fly towards berlin and both. i mean that he does not want to fight with nato . nato or against the usa , and it is quite clear what he wants. so that the public resonance from this actually returns to the home audience, this is the most important thing for him. putin is only interested in his own position and his money. he only cares about those close to he is surrounded by people in order to keep them in power, he clings to power by his teeth, he needs a picture, not the reality that nato is at war with him, he is not a fool in this regard, and he has a picture that nato is really at war with him now, they see the equipment that

is located i have on keep in mind that there are many thousands of millions of russians who are convinced that the americans are fighting at the front, even if they are not volunteers in large numbers. they do not understand who the volunteers are. it is beyond their understanding that someone will come from america and fight. it's that simple for ukraine what is this, but they think that nato is already inside ukraine and is fighting, and this is the message that is broadcast on television in russia that russia is now at war with nato, so putin already has what he needs: a missile in poland, a missile in moldova - this is nothing, these are only minor tangents the origins of the daily struggle are unintentional attempts to do something because he had time to do something and a lot of time to involve nato in this war but he didn't do it, he had a lot of time to launch missiles into the baltic countries or to seriously aim at poland but he doesn't

i did, and if it hasn't happened yet, i don't think that he will dare to do it, unfortunately, i have to end our conversation with sincerely thank you, mr. colonel, for this extremely interesting and meaningful analysis, and i would like to remind our tv viewers that he is currently working for them on the air of the tv channel espresso , retired colonel of the british army, iconic military expert, glen grand gat save the king . glory to the heroes, our guest, mark fagin, former member of the state duma, russian opposition figure in exile and iconic video blogger, glory to ukraine mark i greet you again. greetings, a neighbor of the tv channel. well, i would like us to start our analysis according to the revelations of the kremlin elder. although he is actually not that old and, so to speak, the number of

his war crimes is already, so to speak , approaching records. well, surely the key point one of his latest revelations was that he is translating his so-called military phase, which he planned as a blitzkrieg, into the format of a long protracted war . in the application of the power of russia that remains in it for retaliation and so on, this whole rhetoric was caused by the position of shelling fenglish and dekelevy, in my opinion , the novelties of the cathedral of the 6th degree. and so on and it turns out that almost 650 well, there are about 700 km from the border of ukraine, it turns out that ukraine is well possible to have a blow of such a degree of seriousness that only

ukraine is only healthy. so what? what ? it can turn this nuclear shield into a tomahawk-type missile or something like that, and the last thing that was asked, that is, it turns out that there is more, and there is nothing. all this is a fake, all this is a deception, no means of air defense, no means. well, it is possible, and how is it that she is stationed in the theater of military operations, and i think that in the deep tulula nothing threatens anything, nothing is being done, so putin had to listen to this laughter that was coming from kiev and the western media had to look for something, so to speak continuing to resort to this nuclear rhetoric of intimidation, compensatory for what happened, this is my conviction, there were other moments, well, for example, he suddenly spoke now, eh, although he spoke before this because he was pursuing the territory for the whole purpose. did not doubt this is not a revelation

that we did not know and suddenly he told well, of course, it was an attempt to conquer the entire state, the russian troops were beaten and they rolled back where they could get a foothold, the whole combination and then he begins to weave peter the first and so on and so on and so on, that is, i will be justified at all not for nothing. we even joined peter, reduced in terms of strength . другой строны this is a request, well, let's say that it will denote the whole operation, then immediately to the side it sounds like what are they fighting for? the sea of ​​azov and melitopol will be taken there, and what you are saying is that it is either not achieved, or it is aimed at others, so that crimea does not stand there, or it is not given. not five lands of donbass, that is,

it is such a catchy story, but you will not leave because it is necessary explain apparently the next wave of mobilization and the losses that are so-called blue- eyed sooner or later with the obvious gigantic losses already on the first wave of mobilization on september 21, everyone was actually very surprised by this story that the airfields strategic, these were attacked well, accordingly, the story about airfields is about the so -called nuclear triad, even submarines, aviation, missile launchers, and here it turned out that it is necessary to urgently evacuate the whole thing, well, those who understand that everything understands the military units there and so on, that is, they understand it all, and it brought a lot of mouths . well, they can take some bombers, that is, that strategic aviation somewhere beyond the urals from the urals. but this is not a solution to the problem, because there is actually no

equipped to such a degree as in the saratsk region under the engels airfield, in which, so to speak, they have warehouses, they have corresponding equipment, and so on, which means that new ones need to be created in the depths of russia, the main ones to become warehouses of strategic stock . the city and so on, that is. well, where do you need to drag this greater distance? well, already there, sverdlovsk kserinburg. well, the maximum there is chelyabin, this is a problem. and what if drones of ukraine appear tomorrow which fly 2,000 km away from just the second rocket, you know, this is not a political missile that flies there at any distance, but the missiles that the americans have, the europeans have, and so on, it turns out that even ukraine with its potential vpk and so on, it is capable of solving these problems. and what

will you persuade him to say about these countries, and the west, which possesses all the powers and means for a long time, there are preconditions, you and biden said blinkeny sherman just yesterday in my opinion, bendy sherman himself told the secretary of state, american, that there are no pre -conditions, such a person is entering the army. and please, any negotiations, preparations, i want the rest of them and security guarantees. please, two characteristic moments . so to speak, with an incomprehensible motivation, the second moment, whether it was solovyov or kiselyov, i know, uh, in the varieties of that, you know, this aromatic substance, i don’t understand, he literally said there recently about that what would you advise tsarev? do you remember there was such a figure, a former regional officer who left the russian

federation ? and so on. inside russia itself, there is a retribution for what horking says, he says that in the trenches he does not understand the purpose of special operations, they are wounded, they die, they fight, so to speak, and he says that the kremlin deliberately confuses the purpose so that in at any moment in his interests with this operation by means of negotiations, he presented it all, eh, it is not the fulfillment of this goal, because we will allow the negotiation to be restored to the status -key, and we will leave. with what part? is a way of maneuvering for the kremlin, that's what the buckets are talking about. well, i remember all the rest of the things that the ears were called, why did they call him that, or did he leave by himself, it's already a mystery, i think his department said it there . come on, why didn't they put him in kulyok mark like that

in simple language, well, you can. it’s not yet a moment, he’s still needed for something, maybe we don’t understand it to the end, but they understand. as it is said, they use it for something, god i don’t know. as for the special services, well, look there, there’s always a struggle, but it’s like this from 24 февраля well, a little bit, poland has gotten worse, the main question is who is to blame for the list of responsibility, including from the number of the special services block . well, yes who is this? fsb - this is the army - this is the game, well, now he is in charge of the main management of the ministry of defense outlet . who is this ? the question is not answered in principle in russia . clean up everything, it will continue , but what is the general idea of ​​it now

, that’s what the lines with the ukrainians are saying, their front lines are building in them, this is a tactic, the defeat of civilian targets, plans for the invasion of the north. well, this is the set that, in principle, was already there, and it did not bring the results of the north. sever ruzhyn entered the territory of kyiv, we saw it , what he finished, what we already know, and the personnel units were much prepared with conditions of surprise. and with all the elements that he was waiting for. what is it with you olena, it is terrible that they are breaking into the bahmuta here slavyansk kramatorsk well, i, too, it has not been going on for a week or a month, the third is about what he says that well, you are hitting critical infrastructure objects, as they call them to leave there a ten-fold

sveta there connections and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on first of all, a stockpile of rockets is produced, spends money, and you turn your reputation into complete shit because, well, as a country, a terrorist gunner kills citizens of the population. peaceful citizens are killed. to go and get what in return for this status is now already for everyone, therefore, there is a kind of moral political concert that yes, this country is a terrorist, it is a sponsor of terrorism. federations in particular, it's not just that they are hitting infrastructure facilities so that there is no light and there will be no heat, this means that people will die in hospitals, people can freeze pensioners and so on. that is, these are additional

crimes, but they will go for it, and you very correctly marko pointed out that they can already prepare to look for the extreme . a very cunning pyramid was woven by such and such a strange criminal combination that even hitler could be jealous of the nsd app and, you know, there are some poets- riders of the apocalypse on their donkeys and so on, and they still have a wagnet that we don’t put it somewhere remind the ss, in part, it reminds some military wing of us, yes, and pen is a blackshirt, anyone , you can look at it, and the gestapo is there, yes, everything is, in short, everything is, uh, they produce transportation. how well is the national socialist regime well? the second is that there are more fascist elements here with such a right

-wing inclination, after all, we had revolution in this, and there even a whole wing was, by the way , revolutionary. the strassy brothers recognized him. who knows, you are a strassor in his book . the details were described by a surviving strasser who left for canada. this was before the war, so actually, i would say that there is gerasim’s luck and guilt, but you know how putin is anyway такой очень побаевываться so openly, frankly, he pinches eh, the military generator will have fun until they create the right balance, because, well, how would a general that we will be shot if the vdrukonets rebel, and he has forces, some fsu from a certain wing of the fsb, yes, it is. well, of course, these are dude wagner can be kadyrov with his units. and who else, well, a million mintiv, so to speak, up to the heads of the cops of the russian federation reached a million, but we understand that the cops are, so to speak, not a reliable

ally if they really start some kind of force deployments that can end, by the way, like it was from the history of makey, the minister of foreign affairs of belarus, a mysterious death, you know, and no one could even explain why he died, so to speak, lukashenka's channel of communication with the west with china. so who knocked him down is clear, but oh well here, too, it can be like that until now. schmaky, in general, history will remain forever. dark, open, no one will ever answer clearly. in honor of the country, there were interests , and there were interests in the comparison of moscow, so that this channel broke off relations with the west. makeyev really considered it to be in the interest of lukashenko, they always say that what as for moscow, see how it is always more complicated here, and the yard is more complicated and extensive, and there is more power under lukashenko , there is still a lot of pain, as they say, there are five main economic groups of the state

which revolves around lukashenko, one of them represented them in moscow as if they were the main ones, then there is less, well, the cooperative ozero mobilization group, yes, on the row, well, there are patrushevportniks, well, there is some part of the apparatus, it is less, er, it has a resource, but the influence of m- m significant for putin, well, kovalchuk, who is close to the russian federation, here, eh, it’s not much, and the second game is because if with lukashenko there is still some mythical chance, lukashenko noticed that there is a lot of crap and i don’t know. in the case of something, putin's creature is a putin creature that, well, in short, it's clear, well, i'll write it, uh, it's even, at least how you will read it sometime if putin asks for his own, uh, some of the groups in the kremlin will fall down. it will be easier for them to close it, they need putin himself

to hand over power. and not with success, it’s hard to imagine that putin will go to the top like that, and secondly, that this is in principle possible as a structure for someone to be changed for the son of a patrushego, whom no one knows, he graduated from the fsb academy at the age of 42, well, the usual swindler of the minister of the responsible economy, and what else what is even more significant and he has dignity? why would he become a figure for the sake of those who will die somewhere in the steppes of kherson region? soldiers for the sake of patrushego and his family. all alone sides of the system can be more stable than in belarus, well, on the other hand, and more, the bloody collapse of its newspapers, well, there is no historical

tradition and understanding. and their resources, which i do not possess, is the beauty brand, what is it in this shaky design, who will he play for at all , or is he already playing at the present moment? well, he plays for putin. well-wishers, well, judge, she openly confronts the ministry of defense and directly criticizes it and says that it is bad for her. who is very close to putin. well, and so on. well, that’s all the stories. with these a-a, with runaway criminals, they show about unreal, unreal

. connected with all the same entourage on the other side of putin himself, they don’t want such a person, such a person who comes from the whole criminal background, comes out of there. from what kind of catering suddenly became a figure in putin’s entourage, he sent you the capabilities of the fsb there, i don’t know the army , even a switch, well, jokes jokes are not 37,000 m in a couple. and how much can it manage independently or does it perform some functionality entrusted to him by putin himself? well, you can guess here . even rather, i willingly believe in such an outcome for him, they don’t look at the fact that he is a player, he gets carried away, he even directly derives such pleasure from what he does.

for example, they send eyes with blood paint to europe, you know animals in embassies, it seems that this is a concrete lesson, i don’t know what kind of fantasy it is necessary to know how to send letters and letters to ukrainian dishes all over europe well, i would say that this clearly does not smell does not give any rational plan to some sane plan of action selected by the authorities at the top mark, but there was no shakespeare, hell is so empty, all the devils are already here, here they are, and these are informal characters, and so we understand that this story will unfold, we in ukraine, of course, we look with optimism at the return or escape of the wagnerites or to the russian federation, especially if they are wagnerites with machine guns, i.e. people whom prigozhyn sent to ukraine to kill us, they start to do something, get on their skis and come back back home, they talked about it, well, excuse me, as a criminal who is punished in the places of

decision of freedom for a serious or a person with a serious article, they put a weapon in their hands. wants for himself, it is legal, functionally, to return to er, similar method, er, er, life , etc. it is quite incredible that you will be sent for disposal. well , he can, er, in the conditions when he, er, beskonny can act in different ways, and this is what happened in the rostov region, this guy, as i suspect, ran away from some part of the country. i already ran away, the weapon opened fire and so on, of course, these stories leave more of them behind and ask them to write them off

. that it will increase and go, it will not decrease either quantitatively or in depth, it will kill the civilian population of the police and so on. well, it is simply programmed , that is, even if these people were not delinquents returning from the front line, there from the ranks, they have already the second feels in general the nature of the relations between those around them, they are considered in their right to be soldostoevsky, you understand in their right to be their elders the army turned out to have no boots, there are no rusty automatics, there are no soul warmers, it means that in winter there is no general sky. what happens is that there are no officers from the mobilized. this is also a significant damage, that is, the army is not ready to even digest this mass. we are turquoise, and

some journalists, taken separately, begin to call on the public, so to speak help with the naked boss marko, i really wanted to avoid this topic , they chewed the whole thing, they were worried, but anyway, you see, we are going to this, so to speak, wet story, you do they not understand in that rain, the way they are perceived, that they sometimes simply carry or do they have such a firmware , the thing is that i show everyone uh well, i’m welcome to me and the rain is aluminum, there is no, they never loved them as well as their moskvy novye gazeta. independents have never been, i can tell their history, how little will change eh inside, the russians said the same, so that you understand, they

simply satiate everything with surprise until now they discovered that they have some kind of displaced hakamada syndrome. yes, but for those who in the course yes that is what the team it was such a doll on the kremlin liberals in quotation marks, money, yes, and lix, someone likes the image of sobchak, by the way, she works for dozhdy, who likes it. yes , this is exactly what we call half-pokerness. when, depending on the situation, you follow the rules of the game and a certain distance with some kind of radical frank direct in principled positions so as not to give unnecessary extensions and this is gradually learned even in this ironic manner conversation with everyone she also drove in the 10th years simply no one knows in in russia, there was a print because of haha, they will talk about the serious topic of the protest, the persecution of the position , the lack of freedom, they all the time with such a pronunciation well, as if we are white here, the bone journalists are a little over the scrum yes, of course, i

like putin, but i never like it because of what would you like him, but in general, those who are against the site are also some, well, some marginal people who mean to keep lying. and what did they call there? yes, yes, yes, this is practically their term. in protest i'm so good, completely i'm in it, everything is as it was said and here they transferred all this, bam, they transcribed, the conditions changed, the kremlin, well, give it directly, echo of moscow says - this gas belonged to prometheus well, nothing to hide, the rain was created by the media of medvedev's second term. yes, tymakovy sendeeva created it uh, and corresponding money and aid and so on is done. no, of course they did a lot of work. there are many decent people working there and there, but the facts will remain a fact. well, i’m not talking about a new newspaper that has it was financed by the bumpy fund, er, swans, not a visa- free banker, a former major like the kgb, and adoniyu, er

, a businessman, what is imaizova , what did he seriously help m. - and here they come to the request and i think that all the questions are solved also the relationship there and the friend and you have the evidence here are the laws here according to latvian laws, this license obliges you to make a latvian track in cable networks in notvinsk language and why do they say they are here, i published the solution on russian myself in the telegram channel, no one reads it, did you notice that they continue to write the die, i, too, and the agent can be seen on the agency, that’s how it came out, now smi. russia, where are you going, together, the link to agents well, it is logical to survive abroad now if you are in russia , they can tell you for this, there are already two fines for me.

russian law or i wanted to spit right in your face, i won't be with you, you have to express yourself more strongly, why not? you don't even ask a legitimate question why do they have to observe these crazy russian laws already abroad? i understand when someone has some kind of personal problem. yes, we are. terryalnoe что задалос родственные люди боятся ставят это пашку no well, it doesn't happen like that for half a dozen, there's no such situation, the war is going on, that is, it's not a figurative story, it's not an allegorical story, that is, they kill us every day, so no, but the war does leave only two copies этот either you are there or you are here, and in the middle you can’t zigzag and run, and they continue white as if nothing is happening, that this is just a general topic for the next issue of some kind of broadcast, but the problem boils down to the fact that they are still talking orange they don't call themselves the opposition, not the echo of moscow, they say we are independent, we are just the media that you don't send,

we are biased. well, okay, but then , excuse yourself, obey the rules of the country that sheltered you - do it logically so as not to annoy the regulator and everyone else, good luck with you, mark, unfortunately i have to end our conversation, i am sincerely grateful to you for this brilliant analysis on the tv channel at night, i want to remind you that mark fagin worked for them, a blogger, a former member of the state duma, a member of the russian opposition in emigration, all the best, the time of our program has run out, stay on espresso tv channels my colleagues are picking up the information and analytical baton, take care of yourself and your loved ones see you on the air