exactly for a minute they broke the canonical communication with constantinople, moscow broke it in 2018 after the creation of the ptu, and the kyiv cathedral of the moscow metropolis supported it in this, moreover, at this supposedly revolutionary cathedral on may 27, 2022, when they said that they are more on the amp there is such a very cunning the point inside where they confirm er will give between the decisions of previous councils, including the decision of the council where they said that this is how we are also developing with constantinople. so let them not they are lying, and well, that woman just needs to be taught a little bit, i think. thank you barefoot sonia koshkina, the editor-in-chief of lb.ua was our guest, the discussion turned out to be quite interesting, i didn't even expect it with hanna gubkova, she is already in the studio, congratulations to the priests, the head of the board of the public organization, the protection network of national interests , ams and foreign policy expert, people's deputy of ukraine 8th convocation, it's great to read your

realities. about all these searches about what is happening there, er, here are the latest reports from the sbu in kharkiv oblast, it seems that they identified there, completed the inspections, identified her passports and dollars and rubles and everything in the world, and how do you assess the effectiveness of the work of the sbu, now the result of the investigation in ukraine will be on the internal processes here uh, let's even remember what the moscow church was doing when ukraine was fighting for autocephaly for tomos, that's how many subversive efforts there were from within there is something, that is, they are questions everywhere, but yes, indeed, even after the orange revolution of dignity and even now during the genocide, that is, we do not see political determination, for example, the kyiv-pechersk lavra. and what about the pochaiv lavra, well, i

would also like to understand when it will be completely free from the moscow ah satanic even evil spirit. i don't know the presence there, so it seems to me that the laws that we adopted in the eighth convocation are now good appeals, but i want to see uh really about the fact that everyone is moving to our the orthodox church, well, there is no other option, because we understand that there will be attempts in them to re-establish themselves later, to use the loopholes in the laws that someone may be specially preparing for the return to take place in a hybrid way, this is the same as what the pseudo russian opposition is doing, saying protect give us money for our tv channels. we must understand that just as the only way for ukraine is membership in nato and security with mega-guarantees, where to them the realization of russia also means the complete liberation of ukraine

from the russian world, because the ideology of the moscow patriarchate, in fact, let's remember these shameful cases when mazepa street was renamed lavska street in kyiv during the arrival of cyril , what does this say about the absolute lack of subjectivity of ukraine as a state ? that kirill could not drive down the street of the anathematized mazepa because they sing 2010 years ago, why do i remember 30 years ago that in the second year since the restoration of statehood, we allowed this fsb from snipers who were in the dungeons in the lavra were hiding and so on to the fact that facebookers are in cassocks, so it seems to me that the time is not just resolutely radical, that is, there have already been several historical opportunities, i am just curious, i am interested in this

. that not all agents are normal priests and parishioners. well, for example, in my village, a normal priest goes, well, here we believe in god, we are already a transition here, you are not a parish, accordingly, and we are chanted anathema in the central cathedral of the city of sumy curse mazep now when tanks and tanks and sums have already arrived. do you understand this, this continues, you say, well, we are a democratic country . as they say, there is a crypto war, elements of the hidden when what they do through the church well, you are not the only one. let's say that the ambition of the moscow church is to be stronger there than the vatican, it is to pull constantinople under its control, and so on, this is an imposition not only the russian world, this is the expansion of the russian world globally through

the church, what they did in the balkans, in montenegro of other countries, it is not easy, but with ukraine, considering that we obtained the tomos after 333 years and these processes, we can see how the cleaning of avgievi stein is complicated by the fact that in the sbu we also need to talk about eh well, let's honestly talk about the cleaning of the russian agents, this is the number one task and ah ah ah russian genocide against us there are reasons why this agency has been brainwashing people like you for years do you have parishioners? look at what is happening in volyn, where i have a lot of questions. why did volyn seem like there are problems with closing the mouth of the mouth ? and so on

, that's why it seems to me that there are shrines. i've already voiced about this in me such hope is certain, you know, a dream . and this is called such that uh, st. sophia's church, st. michael's cathedral and uh, kiev-pechersk lavra, the bells of three shrines in kyiv are like this energetic shield because we know that when the bells ring, a certain spiritual blessing and purification takes place, and that is why i wanted them all to be like this, the melody of the three sanctuaries a-a and the kiev-pechersk lavra is freed from the presence of eh-e enemy absolutely incompatible with eh -e by the struggle of ukraine for e-e spiritual independence after the tomos, this issue has long been needed, all these flirtings should be simply played out. believe the absolute determination of no search for e deceivers or somehow allow them to then re-establish themselves to play on the alleged parishioners

no, no, there is no democracy here, democracy in this case, determination, the law of the security service of ukraine must carry out its actions, the president and so on have, that is, let it be, i don’t know, they cleaned out all the fsbshniks from there. they have to join, well, become a part of the orthodox church of ukraine, and here are all the museums that ago that the kiev-pechersk lavra from the time of russia is not just to pray, it is also a certain cultural environment, a historical local history museum, and so on, it is a world-class shrine and therefore only the ukrainian spirit, identity, durability of our tradition, mazepa, which invested a lot of his own money so that the kiev-pechersk lavra took a worthy place, therefore, we must return to the origins of history to understand the meaning. well, i say, and such is the melody of the bells of three churches, as the archangel michael stands and

protects when we removed the idol of lenin's satanism, well , that is, until in the 14th year, there was a laziness in the center of kyiv, why is this immediately attracting an evil spirit, look at what happened when the russians occupied new cities after february 24. what did they do? they burned ukrainian literature and immediately installed monuments were removed to ukrainian heroes and monuments to stalin were erected and so on. marking is also a special process. these monuments must not only be destroyed, but also so that later, god forbid, no one will have a head. if they did come, then it was necessary. to create and so they simply took me from the museum and returned me to the previous place by the occupiers . well, this is a horror, of course. the author under the title cruel claims or harsh claims on crimea emphasize the small chances of a peace agreement between russia and ukraine at once many links of the ukrainian mass media to this material

there ukrainian truth war with russia can last decades through crimea to washington post censor.not e-e deoccupation crimea can provoke putin to use nuclear weapons. where is the washington post? well, they sorted everything into quotes again. what do you associate with the appearance of similar materials in the western press? i don't know if you read it, what is it about? this shows that the americans are still forming some kind of gifts in order to give up their legitimate claims to crimea and somehow persuade the ukrainian government or society to the point that if you want, you can roam around, but without us. and this will last for decades. is it simple? well, by chance there is an appearance. is it some kind of mass escape, because this is happening against the background of the fact that the day before yesterday , when did president putin say that and now we will return a preventive nuclear strike to the doctrine , and here to ochen tonpost, please, also about nuclear weapons about crimea, a decade of war, and so on, your comment. what do you think? how does it all work together? well,

it's actually no secret that a-a in the administration of the president of the united states, and in the national and security council, there are a-a certain people who are not ready to really seriously fight and to be like at one time reagan and the empire will be destroyed. we will win, that is, that is why we must understand that such voices are not the first time in nine years of war. and in the last 10 months, that is, we have heard various attempts and a visit to ukraine on in the ninth month of the genocidal war only to kyiv without meeting with representatives of civil society or the parliament, he also raised a lot of questions, and then we raised them during a meeting with representatives of the pentagon and the state department and tried to explain to me that it seems to me that the fears that were in the west were not only in the american establishment. even in the european union or the atlantic transport regarding the use of

nuclear weapons, they have not disappeared anywhere, and putin, clearly understanding this, is constantly trying to remind them with various statements that look at them, although they are different they are also different diplomatic channels, they are also trying to explain to him what this will mean for him and through various russian and chinese partners and others to convey their position there. these fears have not disappeared. the second fear is the lack of a very specific strategy for the russian federation and understanding. and what will happen? not only after the change of regime , i.e. chaos or the disintegration of russia or the collapse of the soviet union. uh, we don't allow kyiv or kings-2, we've already had our fill of all the convictions that only a political and diplomatic settlement can be solved in 8 years, this all

led to a real full-scale war and genocide, that's why russia violated uh, the international security architecture helsinki final the act with the e-e annexation of crimea, the war and only the restoration of the territorial integrity of ukraine within the borders of the 91st year is the right way and this is a signal to china, it is necessary to explain the relationship that the acceleration of the victory of ukraine will have an impact on the position of politicians china, not only in the indo-pacific region, not only with regard to their ambitions there with regard to taiwan, but in general, china has long voiced openly that they have ambitions of global dominance, they achieve this , unlike the russians, through economic expansion and a large presence in africa and latin america huge projects, including its base as a chinese military base, therefore it is

necessary to comprehensively explain here and there are certain fears that i even recently saw that they want to somehow stabilize the situation in ukraine because it is chinese the threat is now greater than russia, they seem that somewhere with russia they have already militarized a little with sanctions and continue to weaken it, but china looks like a real competitor and let's remember simtinkivpin's statement after his confirmation in power after the congress of the communist party when he said immediately talking to biden that there are two great powers in this world. well, it seems that they have already written off russia from the agenda, and our task is to explain what you are looking at, when all these statements are there, which are just like stamps, what is this in ukraine, there is a struggle between democracy and autocracy, a struggle between democracy and authoritarianism, and so on. it must be explained that after the failure in afghanistan, when all the western aid did not bring either democracy or a real example of a model, as it is necessary for ukraine, as a chance for

ukraine to restore trust in the collective west, that their efforts and in general, they are attractive, so i recently er taiwan south korea canada was currently at a uh in a closed session of the munich security conference which meeting was at elmau castle there where simka and the leaders of the state sat in the summer and when i hear these their visions here we will somehow help you stabilize the situation as well. they are talking about access to critical minerals, about how, er, someone says that there is a need to prepare for the fact that war is inevitable, and others say that it is necessary to use some economic levers, and when representatives, for example, in canada from africa and just as they said, listen. and why do you

think that western civilization remains attractive to us in the future? you think so much. how to teach thinking that we are behind you, but in fact we want you to consider us as worthy and correct partners, so it is very important for ukraine now to convey the geopolitical relevance and importance on a global scale the victory of ukraine clearly shows that we have the brand of not only the bravest army in the world, but we will have the brand of the coolest innovations and models of how to rebuild the state and this is the coolest marshall plan for post-war europe and we can do it recently, one of such highly respected experts became, says hanna, well, you have this cool program delta, your armed forces in such limited opportunities do miracles and monitor the situation on the battlefield, fast transmissions, dalnia says you even though you generally understand that ukraine can become a start-up nation there like in the time of israel. that's why we need to explain what a and when they

talk about money, well, it's clear then you have to say ok let's talk about money ah well, first of all there is mechanisms how to make war cheaper, applications, for example, 3d-prints-technologies of ukraine, there are resources, titan, others, that is, you can print spare parts, you can use drones, including technology, tanks are also allowed there, and so on, that is, we have engineers, raw materials, talents and experience . ah, in response to all these, there will be further articles on the games and our task is to simply explain to them that 95% of ukrainians want and believe that we will win and no one is ready to make concessions, so the president of ukraine will not engage in political suicide, he will not will go against the people and 87% believe that even if russia continues massive missile strikes using cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, mikadze

drones, we will continue to resist, fight and so on. when you explain this to them, what will you be with us, we will continue to fight we have no other way, and then they understand that all these articles can be, but there is a position of the ukrainian people, the armed forces is just the price of the question. and when you tell them, listen, we are now finding and distributing t-shirts. chancellor and to volvon schmidt, the consultant, who is the chief foreign policy advisor this week, i personally handed you over, i say, listen, if you ca n’t give, now bards, because you are here to tell me what this is iconic jorman . or bradlist or america and so on. well, germany promised to transfer more weapons to ukraine.

this was stated by our ambassador in germany, oleksiy makeev , in direct negotiations, we were assured that there would be more weapons, more ammunition, what exactly are we we will announce together at the appropriate time, said our ambassador, he noted that he does not want to put diplomatic pressure on the central government, instead he wants to force germany to provide what it has as soon as possible, since ukraine does not have time for weapons . somehow their rhetoric has changed in those closed, semi-closed political and international political gatherings around you, you often visit them during this time, somewhere in 10 months from because of what is happening at the front, their rhetoric is somehow changing, you say. we need to report there, we need to report something has already happened, well, the understanding of what is happening here is changing, there are certain, you know, different realities. we live every day receiving news there that some of our close friends are like-minded

, as in the past weeks of severe wounding of andriana susak, who has been at the front since the 14th year and we understand very well, she who appealed to the pentagon in september and we organized a visit, give us more temples, uh, hamera, give us the opportunity, that is in fact, she might not have been injured. i showed her video message and the already broken car, but this week, i say, you still don't understand what is going to happen until spring. even more weapons and so on, this is a war of attrition, our task to ensure an increase in the amount of military aid and, rather, a financial increase in economic pressure, so the simple question is that they do not have the feeling that it was the day before yesterday, but for us it is every day on the front line, the best i can say for this argument, you understand that the best ones those who gave their lives are those who could be ministers of defense in the future, key people in the general

staff and so on. that is, this is the elite of the state, and therefore , unlike russia, we cannot wait any longer, that is, we will be with you as long as necessary we say wait, we need faster and it is in your interests to speed up the victory of ukraine, the inflation that you are talking about, the global threats of famine due to the blocking of grain supplies, the blockade of the black sea, and so on, the solution to the problem in this place when you say it in your in the interests of speeding up the victory of ukraine, because we often talk about the fact that it is only in our interests, and in their interests and in their interests, a longer period of exhaustion of russia is possible. well, and the uncertainty of what to do with it next . when ms. nuland came here, i mean, i frankly asked her a question. when we had a meeting with representatives of civil society, i said, look, ukrainians have a vision of what a ukrainian victory

is, a military defeat, and then a strong state. tell me. please, does the united states of america have what is a ukrainian victory? because the ukrainian victory is at the stage when the land here will be burned, critical infrastructure will be destroyed and most importantly, the best people will die on the battlefield and then millions will not want to return because they will understand that the next 10 years of life we will have to rebuild, we will lose the best guy, then this victory will be so bloody that it will be half a victory, and we would like you to understand this, and secondly, we are now gaining a lot of credits when the european union says to us, look, we are with you and we have signed that we will finance this war because if you lose and cannot pay, we will pay it, so we are financially supporting it with you. let's be honest . we thank you, it is important because that we really need to be honest about unwavering support right now, this war

cannot be won simply by fighting spirit, so we are grateful, but 18 billion is not money for the european union, so we need much more, and so on. the second is loans that need to be given because when canada already passed a law on confiscation and uh, this week we also spoke with krista freeland and they are already filing the first lawsuit in order to collect russian assets in canada, they are not so and not not billions there more than 300 in the united states or 80 billion of france but nevertheless, this is a precedent in the european union, and discussions have already begun on how, after recognizing the russian federation as a state sponsor of terrorism, the european commission should prepare e-e lidl grounds legislative instruments for that to look for how to start charging through there the national tools of different states, they own these properties, yachts, villas, and not only that, i tell everyone, friends, why do you complain that you

pay a lot, let's speed up the confiscation of russian assets, because we ukrainians don't want to end it either the war will be a victory, but this victory will be with billions of debts for the ukrainian people, which we recruited under this, of course we will return everything, but we want it to be a kind of instrument of pressure on the russian clans, different towers, so that they understand that they are already paying, not the ukrainians are collecting debts, but the russians are already paying for the war against ukraine, the longer it lasts, the faster the recovery of this money will be, the central bank has removed sovereign immunity and so on. therefore, we must clearly explain what a ukrainian victory is, that we do not make any compromises we will not go because here is the church, concentration camps and the real disappearance of the state, we are already demanding confiscations in order for the war to be at the expense of russia, and this was also a message and a signal, and in the title there is a clear understanding of what to do next

to visit and we don't want the morgentel plan, which at one time there were temptations to offer to post-war germany, let's remind the plan of agricultural germany so that it could never recover and then not start any war again but the germans defended that they wanted technology for the americans it was profitable because the marshall plan is also was e-e the transfer of earning technologies is mutually beneficial therefore we have to clearly explain we want membership in nato and in the eu we want the armed forces of ukraine after defeating more than a million the most powerful army were incorporated into de facto european forces in various nato initiatives and projects well, we want to innovate when we, in particular, with e-e, now with several members of the verkhovna rada and mr. mykola knyazhytskyi, are imposing contacts with taiwan and with south korea. that is, we clearly understand that we we want to build an innovative

economy with the most advanced technologies in the world, and not to think about how to get stuck with the construction of destroyed houses and so on. thank you, now we are taking a small break that iryna koval continues to collect funds for uavs together with the espresso tv channel for the military with the combined tactical group adam , their commander yevgeny majovikin - a hero of ukraine - a legendary cyborg, the military took part in the liberation of kyiv oblast, recaptured ukrainian lands in zaporozhye, kharkiv oblast, luhansk oblast, and donetsk oblast, and now the combined tactical group adam is fighting in the bakhmut direction there, performing extremely difficult tasks for effective work for them we need two professional drones , one of which we already bought with you, now we need another one with a total cost of uah 800,000, please if anyone has the opportunity and desire to join eh, let's do this together, a short break and then we'll come back, stay with the press. let's see how people who suffer from

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trt hager reports that the president of turkey, the recipes of her farts, held a telephone conversation between the president and the russian leader, vladimir putin, from the parties discussed bilateral relations, as well as ukraine, a telephone conversation between eldogan and putin took place, regional issues were discussed, in particular , energy, turkish-russian relations, the grain corridor and the fight against terrorism are in the news. well, it looks like some kind of mockery, the russians say that energy, the grain corridor and the fight against ukraine were discussed, that is dugan discussed the fight against terrorism and ukrainian with putin. i will remind you that in parallel, turkey has promised us to install two floating power plants. and it seems that there are four 400 mw power plants there, but they will not be installed under odesa, where there is no electricity, but under romania, and then through

moldova, it will provide moldova and ukraine with electricity. kravchuk, where are the conversations of our people member of parliament of ukraine, deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on humanities, information policy, member of the committee and the permanent delegation of the council in the couple yevgenia congratulations, i congratulate you, i am sorry, dear, light of day mobile internet uh, your education today successfully discussed the regime and its leader and vladimir putin in a phone conversation, they talked about energy, turkish-russian relations , the grain corridor and the fight against terrorism. in principle, he continues to conduct his foreign policy and foreign economic activities quite actively in the conditions of a war against us, please, well, look, let's not , after all, criticize here now

turkey, because this is the type of diplomats and eastern diplomacy, because udogan wants that, in principle, i still want the agreement to continue to work, and i am convinced that he would not have enough authority, so erdoğan's directness, so that, hmm, the russians are somehow in this participated and i will also remind you that you remember there were some statements that they were leaving from the zemnaya crimean bridge, something was some uh-uh another failure of theirs and then quietly the un announced and the organization