tv [untitled] December 11, 2022 3:30pm-4:01pm EET
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and you receive certain signals from the united states that they are ready to support them in terms of signing a peace agreement with azerbaijan, when i estimate that the agreement , which can consist of two sentences, will have two signatures, three, and a third of the russian federation . lies in the fact that how to avoid the lottery fop itself before it should be acquired because of the fact that i am convinced that the russian federation will play armenia because of the loss of an armenian, forgive me such messages, but the sentiments are appropriate in armenia that is, they definitely feel about the ukrainian rallies there no less than when they are more numerous and are aware of the fact that the russian federation is simply using armenia for , let’s say, moderation at the same time as its own military presence, it is in the southern direction in general, but
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in my opinion it is armenia itself when, for example in the kremlin, everything will be total and, as it is fashionable now to say cascaded, under the greatest threats, it is armenia's yerevan that is politically so different , so we will be the law, very yes, olena kopchak, the leader the only caucasian branch of the center for the study of the army of the conversion of armaments told us in detail . we have a-a yuriy kasich, an energy expert, ex-head of ukrenergo , ex-general director of vinnytsia oblenergo and ex-head of the board of chernihiv oblenergo, a shorter
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person who definitely specializes in energy maybe for the first time to the electric power industry p yurii thank you that on sunday means time for us, let’s give such a simple and difficult difficult question, see if uh, how is it in fear, the eyes are big, as our russian brothers say . from the president down, everyone is panicking a little oh, all this is for a very long time, we are not here, we will not be able to manage , there will be no electricity, this, this, then in less than a day, no, well, it will be, and it has already appeared two days later, and there appeared and appeared there and it appeared there that it is not very good at all, it is problematic at all, there is no light on the streets, but they said that it is a crisis, a crisis is no longer possible, then really
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tell me how. schools but hospitals have already been restored today they already say no, well, they can appear, how strong is this energy network in ukraine, that first we are all oh-oh-oh, and then we always live more or less, i congratulate all the viewers, listeners, eh your question is very difficult the machine is difficult because uh, you can actually say about the terms of restoration of this or that object of this or that network, based on the fact that you know the damage, if you don't know them clearly and confidently, it's impossible to say how much time it will take damage to damage section it is on one side on the other side uh you know very frankly and uh it is possible to honestly and openly state uh
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how long will it take and what is damaged is damaged and that is my personal opinion and our country is at war so you can't say okay energy compatibility stock strength, as we can see already, how many eight are very powerful for the energy sector of ukraine, and excuse me, there is electricity, yes, it is limited by blackouts in our country, but it is, yuri, look, it’s very simple, it’s possible, it’s actually a very difficult question , some experts keep telling me about one thing if you take an energy object, i don't know what they are called, big, strong, and just put some concrete or reinforced concrete blocks around it, then only a direct hit. and we know that russian missiles are not so accurate, they can if to make problems for ukraine, and if it is just like
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to wrap it with reinforced concrete blocks, then it will protect us 70% by 60% by 50% by 90% from all problems. missiles or drones did not fall into the energy structure of ukraine, you know what they say. i was against you. you said something is better than nothing, and i am sure that even such protection is a cliff with sand or there are concrete blocks, and of course they can protect the equipment to some extent. from damage why because if the rocket there is very accurate or not very accurate, it will hit the energy object and then the debris fragments fly around not
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only from that shell of the rocket, but also on the energy object there is a lot of porcelain metal, which will also be considered and can damage if the most valuable equipment at the substations will somehow be protected at least from the side, of course, if there is a direct hit, then nothing will be saved here, but it can protect against debris, and the period of restoration of such an object will be significantly shortened, and then the question is safe it just asks. although i don’t know if there is an answer to it, and why it is not done, then what can get in the way if you and many experts say that it is and it is cheap, well, relatively cheap, yes. and for this you do not need to purchase some equipment abroad and so further, why is this not done, why is it not possible, at least there in western central ukraine , it is clear there, where it is close to the front, there it is probably
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more difficult, but there, let’s say in odesa or there, and i don’t know in kropyvnytskyi, in lviv, in volyn, just to do such simple things, i think it is worth it not so a lot and if it has at least 10-15% efficiency well then it should be done but it is not done am i wrong in fact is it done i just don’t know about it yuri you know i am waiting for this information probably only you from what i read i'm listening, i see the photos of the damage that i saw, they are so different, there is a photo of the damaged equipment that clearly shows that it was covered and it was damaged, i.e. a direct hit or from the side, i can't say why it's massive and not carried out at the facilities of some enterprises. i also cannot to say, i clearly know that i have, for example, a small enterprise, i have small hydroelectric plants there
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, but in everything, more or less, there are dangerous zones, there are transformers, there are window switches, a car generator, i have everything more or less laid out, why is this not done in other enterprises a-a i don't know clearly, i know that, for example, in some energy supply companies, does vinnytsia know the amount or not, such measures are taken and well, they are effective , they are not effective, they cannot say, but why are they carried out in others? it would be possible, i am absolutely not criticizing anyone anywhere right now, but i am just thinking, in principle, it is possible to hide the energy structure in such a way that in the event of war it is minimally damaged , to say such words that it makes it impossible to supply energy by half to three quarters. well, i don't know how to bury it there, you know to do it all underground,
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i don’t know whether to make some, i don’t know, armored roofs, that is, to imagine that russia remains in this state, nothing can be ruled out , although we and our interlocutors often say that it will be destroyed, it will be destroyed, it will not be , it will fall apart. well, if it suddenly does not fall apart, then you can imagine ukraine, which protects its energy system so much that even in the event of a new war, there, in 20-50 years, it will not have an effect on russia, well, it will. but such a rather limited effect, we can imagine such a picture phew , very, very interesting question, but with such a neighbor , we all remember, we all remember. we have lived together hundreds of years ago, i think that that neighbor will not go anywhere. unfortunately, what about burying and hiding well, of course, you can't do everything in one month, but
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there are many examples in the world of such hidden objects, not because they were hidden there from someone, but because they were decided to do it in a technologically economical way. i personally visited the objects for example, in romania, i won't say what kind of hydroelectric power station it is, 500 mgt, the rocks are very deep, when you drive up to it, you don't even understand that there is a hydroelectric power station or an energy facility, so all this can be done. and i think that after our victory, they are only us, but and the whole world will change its approaches to the construction of such critical energy facilities, i mean, uh, well, the trunk line, the system of diseases and the network , and these approaches will change in the direction because these facilities must be hidden either from open military aggression or from some other terrorist act, or from bad weather, but
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such objects must be, as you say , concreted, it is possible to make them underground. everything can be done, today's technologies allow it. for example, if we have most substations large they have open so-called distribution devices, that is, well, just on earth in the air, and there are switches, transformers, disconnecting current transformers. well, there is a lot, a lot of equipment, so all this can be hidden on the plane, er, reduce it by about 4-5 times if we will use modern circuits. so-called sets of distribution equipment with gas, it allows to reduce very much, and in fact, it is the classic scheme of the majority. well, in the majority, and in many substations of our trunk network it can fit there, if you say on the ground,
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just imagine how many it will be, well, two. two and a half maximum there are three floors, not three meters . well, the building can be 50 by 20 meters. that is , it is not very critical. ukraine is one and only. excuse me , mr. yuri, is there a question? a second, and you can hide it underground. is that why it’s all in the air? why are the eyes of high-voltage networks above the ground? it’s simply because it’s cheaper to place them so that they hang down , but it’s also more convenient for the enemy to aim. and if you just put them on the ground and and and and and and two-meter layer of the earth and they will be located there in the same way , it is impossible. yes, tell me. why, well, you already know this. this is technology, for example, a 330 kw network. if you mess with the current-carrying part there, somewhere around 3 m, then you can say that the air
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gap will be penetrated. that is, you will i was struck by an electric current, and that's why the technologies used to be such that everything was in the open, and elygas is actually insulation that allows you to significantly reduce this distance, and that's why everything is done compactly, for example, i actually went to all of them in substations, these circles are used there, you put your hand on the bus, the wire is literally 30-40 cm from you , the voltage is already 330 kw, you feel quite free and calm. that is, it is only a matter of technology, that the technology is understood. it has not changed in two years, and the last ones are probably there. well, 10-20 well, unfortunately, we have such applications in our country, they are accepted and used, but very little. thank you very much, yuriy kasich, energy expert without the head of ukrenergo, where is the
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pednek ? chernihivoblenergo board was in touch with us. thank you very much, mr. yury, let's move on to diplomacy to diplomacy. kharchenko is an extraordinary diplomat and a plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine. they found a time on sunday, look, it’s already today. a conversation between mr. yodogan and putin took place. a conversation with mr. zelenskyi , the ukrainian president, is expected. groping for the situation. is this just what erdoğan is doing
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for his internal history, since in six months he has elections and he needs to put something on the table, considering that everything is not so good inside the country, and inflation and economic problems, so we need to show at least something to someone who benefits except for erdoğan, this conversation and to what can they lead to ? no, first of all, diplomacy must come from one very simple and now two countries are waging war, one attacked the other, you are russia and ukraine, all the rest are turkey, france, the united
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states, china, india, they have no war, they are peaceful states, they are just one the bigger ones mostly help the victims of aggression, they help ukraine, the rest are those, let's put it this way, the uncertainty is an indicator of certainty. here it is, and it's lame. this organization, but it's good, works as an indicator of certainty, and the organization of the united nations is there on the scoreboard, as they say, bent out who decided who didn't decide turkey by the way, on that list is a very decent uh group of ukraine, so the rest of uh or definition of morally uh political priority whose are they boots on the pictures as from our point of view so in general black and white good versus evil re shta well, there were such soviet
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classics from odesa and petro they used in one of their works vyshniv eh huyok will be small that’s about it by the way not only the ukrainian-russian war today eh elements politicians are brought to life, this is any conflict , a large army, this is a large military conflict, you will always see that kind of behavior of many actors who are close to turkey, russia , and ukrainians. the end of the war eh i hold that opinion very simple what um about the date of the end of the war is the best and we know this one person works as the chief of our general staff i
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understand you understand but listen here is jones's statement to the former prime minister, do you want to stop the war with greater support for ukraine? in your opinion, this support is as much as possible. no, not as optimally as possible. not as optimally as possible . now, what are we going to get? if they weren't lying, they say, yes, we don't have such tanks now, and we'll give you the ones we have, maybe we'll ask now, we'll give in a month, but we'll give. well, in short , many people suspect that well, they don't want to give, they want to slow down other people they say no, they just don't have it, no one expected putin to attack half of the world and bomb ukraine, but half of the world is involved. and
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then the question arises: the americans are giving everything they can, objectively, the british are optimistic, the estonians are in the czech republic, i don't know the poles. you believe in something that they don't have or believe in something that they don't want to believe, you know, i like the saying that has been around for a long time in our, as they say, in this area of special publics , that er, your rashyffobia is not enough, we ukrainians , we don't have much at all, we don't have much at all, give they give little, that means they could have given more, well, it's normal , it's normal because we are victims, we fight, we resist, we destroy, by the hundreds alone, and so on, we cause the destruction of a utilitarian part of the
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world, but from the point of view of objectivity, in the situation that did you imagine that they give everything, or that they can objectively give more? of course , they can objectively give more. financial and other, for today it is. well, i am a diplomat. you said, and i am used to expressing myself cautiously. but it seems to me that today it is the maximum possible that we can count on. therefore, we must always remember this, and after we finish this war victoriously, it will be necessary to simply don't forget all those who provided such unprecedented i would say unprecedented support to one country that is carrying out aggression and this is of course the whole floor of
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what we acquire rammstein rammstein plus we named several countries some countries already they are competing who helps more. i saw the statistics recently, the germans proudly say that we already have more help than even non-britain, this is normal competition, i am for such a competitor, well, that means there is this, you are hinting by reading what the germans, the french, the americans say and so on and deciphering as a career diplomat you do you understand or you yourself hint now we are talking to me that with the approach of victory is possible i am not as optimistic as everyone around me everyone is such an optimist i am afraid to say something optimistic during the war or knocking on wood they they want to sit at the negotiating table at the end. they want to sit behind the snow of the negotiations. i want to sit down. they are
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sitting in moscow when they will start. when the post of troops will begin. in their own way, everyone wants to be friends with the winners and that's why. come on. yesterday we didn't they gave us weapons. and if we don't give them today, they won't invite us to this round table tomorrow, as if it were peace, paraphrasing selzhenitsyn, but hey, we didn't do anything, and now they can try to tell us in advance, oh , oh, me, too, oh, tanks, yes, sign the contract yes tanks are on you, come on, and i simply think that this is one of the reasons, because if there was a draw on the battlefield , they would be silent
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. we'll make it. and that's not right. well, it seems to me that it's an objective political process that's going on. i wouldn't say that it 's only going on. lately, it seems to me that this process started uh, a few months ago, actually when the first group of uh er troops moskovskyi was rejected from kyiv, then already in the world capitals they began to understand that something is happening that can lead to a completely different picture than they imagined . for years, he was riveting weapons in
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terrible quantities and threw all this at us. we stopped him then with the help of education and gradually by o-o-o what are we destroying this year? then how can we and how is it better for us to submit to this, but now where is the absolutely objective picture? well, you see, the prosecutor's office somewhere, even morocco, the first of the african countries, also recently decided that we also need to see where history is moving and also have time to get on the wagon what is his direction, well, you are objective in this problem, because uh, these 70 years of uh, warless existence in europe , they terribly cooled down the development of the vast
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majority of people who simply stopped being interested in political processes in general, the motor is not interesting, then dirt and so on and the like, but this is the same work as any other work, but you talked to an energy engineer, and political work is the same work, there are rules, there are laws, there are algorithms, they are simply not interesting events that become history now we are writing history, of course later it begins to reach many people, and god grant that it reaches even faster, sir, look at the important question , very often they talk about similar questions, well, for example, a religious question, the fate of the post-war period of the russian orthodox church, the fate of culture, this is the abolition of russian culture, see the fate of diplomacy, it was once considered very strong
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, a large school, long-term, some training of diplomats, in fact, since the 18th century, something there, russia tried 19-year participation in the congress of vienna after the napoleonic wars, participation there after e- is there any other wars, the last world war ii is shorter, there is experience, and now there is a lie, there is a lie . a diplomat meets somewhere in 2024 or in the 34th year somewhere there is a meeting with a russian or some other diplomat, and that diplomat says something to this swede, danes or englishmen, and he sits and
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thinks well, her husband is not possible, well, how can i believe and so diplomats they don't believe it, because it's clear, it's such a specific thing, but they just don't believe us 100% , because in the history of russian diplomacy there was a head of diplomacy who lied from morning until night , there were leading diplomats who lie from morning until night there giving interviews to the bbc or cnn in america or somewhere else and i just, well, i can't imagine a meeting of mathematics. yes, and somewhere where everyone takes to saying today two times two four, and russian two is already two five, and they will invite you to the next meeting of mathematics simply because, well, there are foundations on which the world is based what do you say about the fate of russian diplomacy in the future well, i will remember one
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meme again thank god i am not russian diplomats, this is the only one i can say because i have seen a lot of them , of course, i worked with them at the beginning of the 90s. you know how i know in fact, everything is not bad in the second the leadership of this ambassador's order there. now i called him the first in the 14th year, i had, you know , when the crimea, donbas, eh, how are they, as if they are eh, well, at least eh, they are educated and so literate more- they know less of the language, that is, they had a choice, you know, they professionally understood that they were getting into such a story that
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there is no way out of it, as they say in that movie, that house is now a prison, but they left, well, all this means the end of the future of this russian diplomacy she simply doesn't have putin and has no future there will be something new in putin's russia, what it will be, we don't know yet, it will be some kind of worm, it means that all kinds of ideas are already flying in the air, but this is what works for the putin regime today, including under the banner of diplomacy, that's all clients of the international court of justice of the post-war era, the military ones, do you remember that the repundrop at the norborn trial was then in the first row and he deserved it. that is what he ended his journey on earth with, this is the only thing i can say today about the so-called the russian answer today does not exist that e diplomacy with
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gynecological traditions exist that there is a division of the satanic menstrual machine that is trying to destroy us and destroy more, and accordingly they deserve only the assessment that will be given to them. ihorya i hope to see the next meetings, which i will be waiting for. and i will just say a few more words to me. they wrote here that you need to relax a little before 4 p.m. right now, 4:00 p.m. do i have three minutes? to chat means see what i think about diplomacy, what i think about a religious organization , about scientific organizations, and so on
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