are you already actively engaged in scientific teaching activities abroad, do you have relations with the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate and friends, acquaintances, people with whom i constantly communicate in all jurisdictions and in ukraine outside of ukraine, this allows me to understand much better what is happening on the spot and actually i do my conclusions are based on the information of impressions received from people directly, that is, i do not express them, i receive them from people, and actually when i talk about the deep division within the uoc mp, this is based on according to the testimony of many people, there is a part of the uoc, a part of the clergy and especially the episcopate, who again are taken by reality and reprimanded by reality for various reasons, or their consciousness is so influenced by propaganda, or they are simply motivated by individuals, including financial ones, including due to corruption and, unfortunately, we know that russia corrupts everyone and everything called er russia

has corrupted many western politicians er many intellectuals journalists in the west etc. the same thing happens in the church russia corrupts its with money, the church, including outside ukraine, global orthodoxy. it can corrupt, i would say the catholic church, even the protestant churches, and even more so inside ukraine, so a very strange picture is emerging in ukraine, that on the one hand, the majority, in my opinion, the majority of believers and priests and ordinary priests who serve in parishes, after all, they are ukrainian patriots and for ukraine, but among the bishop, everything is more difficult supports russia in one way or another, and it seems to me that there is not without corruption on the part of the kremlin . i want to talk a little more with you about these russian influences in the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate . in the beginning it was said that they were held with the aim of

preventing the use of the uoc mp as a center of the russian peace. you yourself mentioned that formally belonging to the community in of the kyiv-pechersk lavra, and in principle, as an orthodox clergyman, you held quite high positions at the time of the moscow patriarchate, both in moscow and in kyiv, at what levels and in what form did you encounter manifestations of the russian world in the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate at all levels. pity starting from the highest generous starting from the prefects i think that metropolitan onuphrius e at least before the beginning of this active phase of the war was such a latent supporter of the idea of ​​male separate reasons he i was a supporter of not quite this ideology, which appeared recently and was articulated by patriarch kirill. i would say that they have always been very complicated by some patriarch kirill,

but they did not quite perceive each other simply, you know, on a personal level, i would say so. and all the more so at the level of ideas and ideologies, but for metropolitan onufry the russian peace. it was the trostyanets silva lavra in moscow where he was formed as a monk. of the kyiv- pechers community, so he belonged to the reed community in moscow, and it had a very strong influence on his consciousness and worldview, and this influence remains to this day, and sign metropolitan onufriy , at least for the past few months, to put it mildly , has not been very active in commenting on issues that arise for the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, it seems that we see some reactions only at the level of messages on the church's website yes, and this is his posture. he does not want to communicate with the outside world as necessary. he lives

in the inner world of the church. for him, this world is absolutely self-sufficient. unlike, for example, his predecessor, metropolitan volodymyr sabodan, who actively communicated with the outside world . and by the way. under metropolitan volodymyr, it seems to me that the ukrainian orthodox church was the most authoritative church despite the fact that it belonged to the moscow patriarchate, but in ukrainian society and the reception of ukrainian society was much more volodymyr's contribution to that church is positive, including because he actively communicated with the outside world and was successful in becoming metropolitan onufriy lives in his own world and in this world it's so beautiful in this world, even war almost never happens, why his reaction they are very slow, and the reactions we hear from the ukrainian orthodox church, well, i would say they are not good, even from the speakers, from those spokesmen whom he appointed, returning to your question about how russian peace is supported at various levels look at the prohodynok, how about him? then i said the closest circle of metropolitan onufriy, which is very strongly influenced by a businessman of russian

origin who recently became a clergyman , before that he was a people's deputy, father vadym levinsky, who is a very rich man and he invests a lot in the development of the uoc infrastructure, but also the ideological direction of the uoc, it was he who stood, for example, the process of self-isolation of the uoc from world orthodoxy when the orthodox church of ukraine was created in 2018, it was he who influenced the uoc so that it does not in any way get closer to the orthodox church of ukraine in an interview with ukrainian truth in july 2021, vadym novinskyi called the orthodox church of ukraine artificially created and, i quote, a political institution that has no relation to spirituality, instead, the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, according to novinskyi has a spiritual connection with the rpc, and the patriarch of the rpc kyrylo cites makes a lot of efforts for peace. vadym novinsky was a

citizen of russia in 2012. viktor yanukovych gave him the citizenship of ukraine from 2013 to july 2022. novinsky was a deputy of the verkhovna rada of ukraine. i think that maybe he is not now er, you know, an ideological supporter of the idea of ​​urban peace simply because his business is suffering from it now now he personally cannot be there all the time in ukraine, etc., but at one time he contributed to the fact that the ukrainian orthodox church was included, let's say this system of the russian peace. so, he influences accordingly the bishops who uh who who are in this very river yes wait yes would you think and work and direct this church, we are talking about the leadership of the uoc, then we are talking about the episcopate from order let's put it this way, that is, there are more than 80 bishops, which are in different regions of ukraine, they have different attitudes to the usual, to this

war, many, many, simply does not take the ideas of the russian peace to heart. they are against this, they are truly patriots of ukraine, because they are critical of the ideology of the russian peace, by the way, i can say that even within russia, the rpc episcopate , some of which i continue to communicate with a lot of people are critical of the ideology of the russian peace as strange as it sounds, but even the russian orthodox church is not so unambiguous and uniform. but among the bishopric of the ukrainian orthodox church there is also a proportion of those who are very critical of the ideology of the russian peace. it is quite high, this proportion of supporters of the russian peace among the clergy is they are there, but they are a minority. and believers, this is how it applies. there is also a trusted minority of believers who are simply convinced that the russian peace is, you know, an ideology, an idea from god, it is a boon for ukraine, and they are ready to sacrifice one's own life, the life of one's relatives , the life of the country for the sake of this ideology, at the end

of may 2022, the council of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate expressed its disagreement with the position of the patriarch of the russian orthodox church kirill regarding the war in ukraine , representatives of the church condemned the war and appealed to the authorities of ukraine and russia with a request to continue the negotiation process and the search for a strong and intelligent word that would be able to stop the bloodshed from what you said can be summarized so that on the one hand there are just people in this structure of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, which is ideologically close to the idea of ​​the russian world, but you also mentioned before that that in principle you should not reject such moments that can be called corruption within the church, look literally, i will quote two headlines from the messages of the security service of ukraine, not the first regarding searches in ternopil oblast and prykarpattia, the sbu found in the facilities of the uoc mp propaganda materials that

deny ukraine and reports from bukovyna, the sbu found documents that confirm the presence of leaders of russian citizenship, moscow's methodology for conducting the service and huge parties about kremlin literature, eh, when we talk about such absolutely specific points about which the sbu declares, in your opinion, we are talking about ideological supporters of the russian world or about the fact that these are people who perform some absolutely specific instructions from moscow, people can both believe and get more money for it, or they can just be, you know, what is called useful idiots who don’t need to be paid, and so on and so be subscribed to this ideology is what concerns literature and other things, well , there was a whole program of moscow in order to promote the spread of such literature, which was, which usually has its origin in russia, namely among

the structures of the uoc in shops, and in bookstores, they are composed as a rule. they find many copies of such literature, they are compiled in the diocese, and then from the diocese they are distributed by operations, this is such a source, yes, metadistributions or a system, a distribution scheme of literature, and that is why it is not surprising that we find many copies of such literature in the dioceses. well, this is a part of this project of this program of moscow about, let's say, the indoctrination of ukrainians and their conversion to this doctrine of a narrow world, then another issue is citizenship and indeed many. i would say a significant number. maybe they are the majority, but a significant number of bishops, at least somewhere in the 2000s . let 's put it this way. played with this citizenship in the end. i know

such cases, but maybe some did not get rid of it and have dual citizenship, well, this should be decided , this should be determined, of course, by the sbu and the border service, that is, all these competent authorities who, in addition to this, deal with it, it is very dangerous when citizens of ukraine are citizens of russia. i apologize , those who lead the church are the leaders of the church, and i know quite a lot. surely the people in the leadership are in the highest echelon of the uoc. in the leadership of the uoc, at least they had russian citizenship, and that is uh, this is of course like that, uh, you know the bell uh, about the danger that and it should be investigated, it should be uh, investigated by the sbu accordingly, because it is a direct channel of influence, of course, on these people, well, we continue to monitor the results searches of the security service of ukraine at the facilities of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, we will monitor both the official reports of the security service of ukraine and the official reports of the uoc mp

thank you, kyrylo, for this conversation, we studied for a long time to become who we are, we improved our skills and when the time came we stood up for the defense of our country we apply our knowledge and skills to confront the enemy to bring our victory closer and return to our work we want to build and create fix and construct but we are ready for resistance if

you ask me who am i for sure ordinary studies are all supposedly not bad, but it’s just damn habits , i was late, what else, anu, sports, as they say, a coach, there will be people from me, competitions, trips, there are those whom i love, whom i cherish, people for whom i am an army, rules of a warm country, healthy care, thank you for regulating

heater and you monitor the temperature without spending money on the wind, we will defeat the winter together, there are 6 classes of fires, they are determined by the ignition of invented materials and substances for use, there are four types of fire extinguishers that can be extinguished with powder . extinguishes its temperature to -70°, use warm gloves, a water fire extinguisher will help with a fire of the first class with special additives for the second and sixth graders, remember that foam and water fire extinguishers cannot be used to extinguish electrical installations, it is dangerous for the lives of ukrainians

who appeared in poland was not a problem and in fact is not a social problem, because they were not looking for social protection, but work, mr. myroslav i congratulate you on to the first channel of public broadcasting thank you for taking the time to chat today good day i congratulate everyone after the full-scale invasion of e-e the number of disinformation attacks by russia on the information space of poland has increased several times on the one hand this disinformation is designed to discredit poland and its policy. well, there were such slogans. poland annexes part of ukraine. poland has begun a covert mobilization

. society please tell me how successfully poland manages to repel these disinformation attacks of russia through various channels, but in poland, in fact, everyone perceived them so to speak, absolutely, that is, no one thought that this was a serious matter, because in no reliable polish space, officially, and in any reports of polish politicians, except for some such as they say to us, political plankton who works here for russian money, i am such a couple of words, there are also a few more in poland, no one would take such information seriously. that is, we all did not know that this was a fake, and no one had any doubts that russia would want to misinform, and in the public space, there were never serious voices about

the fact that the aggression of the erochests into ukraine can be a reason to annex some territories of ukraine in order to introduce some kind of aggressive policy towards the ukrainian state in a situation of threat on the contrary we saw right away that in fact all politicians are polish, all polish honey, i clearly took the side of ukraine so that the purpose of the information, if it appeared, everyone perceived it as an actual attempt of such an unsuccessful and quite often stupid and manipulation or stupid intervention of russia in the hop space, the information space of poland, if the dacha about the perception of refugees was an attempt to show that the refugees, er, that er, the wave only manifests itself more in poland, also brings with it other problems. i would say this clearly, it is necessary to distinguish why. because we are, er, something ukrainian refugees who

appeared in poland came to poland also refugees from ukraine who were not ukrainians, well, the sessions were people from other countries. oh, these were people, in essence , this is also a part - it also touched on the issue of ukrainian thunders that appeared in ukraine in poland, and these centers are these centers of information that wanted the issue of refugees, if you would distort it, we would pay attention. you see, we help ukrainian refugees , but when the opportunity arises, the same and other people who we do not really want will appear to us. to say that the information space and everyone there tried to do something here well, there was a certain defeat in the ukrainian language, even full of black people, and in general, how would you evaluate what is currently being written or shown in the polish mass media

about russia's war against ukraine, the question of russian aggression and struggle remains on the minds of the first experts in polish newspapers. no, we do not have a question on which side the polish medical is standing . in general, there is also a lot of information about what ukraine is experiencing in connection with the destruction of the energy infrastructure connected to the power outage, on the one hand, we feel sympathy and readiness for society and in various organizations such as ukraine for the problems related to

this energy situation that is now in ukraine and what is being written about the event pshevodov who is responsible for the fall of the racket in poland in a strange situation here a little why because the first signals, you know, there was a signal that russian missiles were working here, and this did not please all poles, because they realized that the war that is taking place in ukraine could, in fact, very quickly in poland, the second signal indicates that it could ukrainian missiles were perceived as a bit of a question mark, it should be checked later, this is the very first stage of the ukrainian action from the side that it absolutely could not be tv, uh, the poles looked a little confused as to why ukraine is reacting like that because they know that if the missiles are flying, then

they have the right to sometimes fall into the wrong place, the treatment, the main thing was that in polish society there was no desire to recognize this, to recognize this incident as a pretext for worsening relations with ukraine, this was very important, that is even if ukrainian missiles arrived, it is not the result of a deliberate attack by ukraine on poland, but a mistake, although some also drew attention to the fact that in what the ukrainians are saying, the ukrainian side is talking about the strange trajectory of those missiles, and so on, that there could be something in it and we now see that this question has been completely removed from the discussion, if we are talking about and this is an incident about and then we are talking about project defense and it is needed, which missile from which

direction will it take off, the european union at the level of its top diplomats admits that the war in ukraine will change the lives of european countries and this will affect the quality of life of europeans themselves, in particular, and poles. in your opinion, polish society is ready for the fact that their personal well-being may be shaken, and also considering the fact that more than 1% of poland's gdp is spent by poland on ukrainian refugees. we have in poland now a situation of economic economic crises. part of the law, because also some decisions of the economic policy of the state caused what we have now quite high, different, this will mean that there will

probably be a problem in poland, some enterprises will be closed , some institutions will be closed, eh, this can increase the level of unemployment in poland and in society the problem is already felt that the presence of a large number of ukrainian refugees who have joined the labor market in poland can be problematic. i want to say that according to official data about a month ago, which were made public in poland, among the ukrainian refugees who appeared in poland after february 24, 450,000 people were employed. at the same time, the state treasury has its share, that is, the burden on the financial system of poland is reduced, so to speak, in connection

with 5 5 of all expenses. spending does not mean that these people, so to speak, fully finance the stay of all refugees in poland, but so far we do not see in the official discourse information that the presence of a large number of ukrainian refugees in poland e is an economic problem for poland, i can say that we are all aware that the presence of a large number of ukrainian refugees may be a problem in the long run , and therefore it is necessary to act in advance to prevent attempts to manipulate information and e-e and strengthen the presence of a positive image of the presence of ukrainians in poland and so far this is how it is happening. that is, this is poland, and poland has reserves in order to accept even more

ukrainian refugees, taking into account what is being said about a new wave of refugees from ukraine that may come due to the beginning of winter, there is also an energy crisis, the cause of which is russia's massive missile attacks on the ukrainian energy infrastructure. it is not my period to accept a certain number of businesses. additionally, if we compare the situation in the spring when we were at the peak of this main wave, there were more women in poland involved in the reception, quite a lot of students, however, returned to ukraine, part of the refugees

left these centers of stay with jesus, who arranged themselves, that is, found some jobs own housing, part of those refugees came abroad further, that is, so to speak, the potential to receive people is there, if there is a political decision and support from the state, or maybe an international one that could finance the stay of those more, only a cell will be because of this difficult time, then poland can practically accept a significant number of refugees. i think we can talk about something up to a million people. refugees from ukraine about the fact that the polish government will gradually limit aid for ukrainians who have been in poland for a long time fleeing from the war, in particular he spoke about the fact that from january 1

it is planned to introduce 50% of their own participation in the payment of accommodation for those people who are in temporary accommodation centers more 120 days and within the next year, this person must fully cover the cost of living in such centers. what can you say about these plans of the polish government, have they already introduced changes to the law assistance to the citizens of ukraine, these changes were discussed before, even before this decision, this information was made public, and these changes are taking place. that is, it is necessary to bring out this situation in the places where ukrainian refugees are staying. they can pay some part of it themselves, pay some part of it, the stay is already expensive, something must be said about

the government, there is a triklad of women who care for the elderly, but not for persons with disabilities are forced to pay the longest opportunity to take advantage of which it must be said that these funds are minimal, how much are there? well, approximately the funds are at the level there, i do not know 30 or 40 gold per day as individuals who were politicians. and we also talked about it with the minister of the chauffeur and signed, but what it is about not creating the impression by creating a situation that the refugees will be able to, so to speak, live exclusively at the expense of society. that is, there will be burdens. why because,

from our perspective, this polish acceptance is a complete success of ukrainian refugees since february, he fought from the conviction that ukrainians who will come to poland will not be a big burden on polish society, and secondly, the stereotype that refugees, especially those who appear in europe, from asia, from the middle east, are people who are mainly looking for social protection at work, instead of ukrainians who appeared in poland, there was no problem and, in fact, it is not a social problem, precisely because they were looking for social protection, and work gave them the opportunity to somehow keep themselves there and this positive image of the presence of ukrainian refugees in poland is something that gives us the opportunity to plan for a long-term normal stay, as well as emergency situations, for example, winter and the need to help the next group

of refugees, we know that polish society will help them with their prize, what will happen to the new wave of ukrainian refugees to poland will there be jobs for those who want to work? and in general, what is the current situation on the labor market in poland? is it easy to find a job for ukrainians? i can't rest, seriously. the growth of inflation is simply the goal, there are quite a lot of enterprises that are closing down, products are becoming more expensive, and this will mean that it is possible that in some perspective we will see an increase in unemployment in poland.