well, quite such a brutal diplomatic war was waged by our e-e sent in the past andriy melnyk, who managed to break through the crazy concrete walls that we public e-e organizations could not do, that is, the level of blocking was very high in relation to the disinformation itself, they do not need much to misinform during the times of the soviet union internally it has always been the soviet union the union of independent republics externally it has always been russia about ukraine about its reasons for today's war the germans are not so we would even like to hear them say that it was possible to hear such things, well, why can't you already agree with them there and give away some territory there so that we can be warm in the winter, we recently did such a large analysis of why today's situation is so difficult because the ukrainians who are here they were always working, they were always integrated and they

knew their part, they talked about it, but the germans did not perceive it very well, you wanted to in 8 months of the war, the german public media, let's say so, they are interested in one pity, tears in the roots, look well they probably don’t really want to, and there is one very negative or dangerous thing that exists today, these are real attempts to sit ukrainians and russians at the table today and talk about peace, but in general, how would you evaluate what is being written about russia’s war against ukraine and whether or not ukraine came off the front pages of the german newspapers, it is necessary to give credit that germany quite strongly supports ukraine, supports ukrainian refugees, these things are presented in the media quite interestingly every year, but um, we

would like more, of course, and they do. the information is quite full of questions. why does this happen? well, sometimes it is politics. we can say that if we analyze what was submitted, what information was sold and sold about the war during these eight months, then the rhetoric has changed. they call things by their names. many politicians express themselves openly, but despite everything a kind of tiredness is already such, the german media sometimes sell information from the side from which it is profitable for them, and this is of course logical, but hm, the emphasis is on the economic side, which will be profitable to be able to negotiate, the european union, at the level of its top diplomats, already recognizes that the war in ukraine

will change the lives of european countries. well, for example, there will be no more russian gas, this directly affects the lives of the same germans, in your opinion, but german society is ready for the fact that their personal well- being it can shake, it feels that it has already moved, the question is whether they are ready to accept the fact that the way it was will no longer be, that is, the struggle is with the fact that it has already changed, they already understand whether there will be gas or not. well, i would say that in some still have the idea that the war will end and we will be able to return to the fact that russian gas may be supplied and perhaps something else. for many, the question is that russia is still a country that supplies raw materials and we will somehow be able to or have to let's return to this question, here is the question when the question on what conditions, well, it remains open, but

the understanding is that as it was, it will not be, it already is, what will be instead . since the beginning of the full-scale invasion on february 24. has the german society's attitude towards russia and russians changed? this is a very interesting question. in such a positive way, the poor russians are now forced. that is, to imagine this, we will use the examples of when our organization called, well, let's say, a german pensioner and with such an almost, well, let's say, tears at with her eyes, she asked us to help shelter or help

leave moscow for my intelligent family because they now have quite big problems there due to the war, so i had to talk to her for a long time and explain what the matter was and whether she understood at all and where she was calling she is trying to drag someone here and we have absolutely no complaints against that person, but the understanding is that everyone had to show their side, it must be declared, but as far as society is concerned, they are quite afraid of war, it can be said that way he is not very afraid of a confrontation that could arise on german territory purely between ukrainians and russians, i don’t know why ukrainians are quite peaceful, even there are many here, there are no such abscesses as to say that there are any problems on the contrary. i would say that germany felt a little bit of rejection not only by ukrainian

asylum seekers, as well as by europeans, when the statement about the so-called deserters, that they should be accepted here, and there was a very big split where they tried to argue with laws about refugees and so on, but the perception was that these people do not necessarily have to be here, that this is a big risk, but they feel a great responsibility in the second world war, and here historical questions arise. parties with different groups begin to explain the four ukrainian fronts, two belarusian fronts, and what about these people, that is, do you feel responsible ? are you only in front of russia and they do not understand this huge difference between the soviet union and russia yes, absolutely, this is one such thing that is going on now, in fact . if we understand it, there is such a refraction

of the historical agents, in general , i would like to devote the second part of our conversation to exactly how the ukrainians who fled the war and got to germany feel, maybe from the beginning they planned to go there or had to stay there , according to the latest data, there are more than 1 million ukrainians who were forcibly displaced in germany, and now in the ninth month of the war, how willing is germany to accept ukrainian refugees, considering that we remember that at the beginning, in the first months, they said that everyone is going to another country because germany can not accept everyone, uh, i guess we have to say two sides here. from the government, ending with the political

parties, germany will help so much, so much will be needed, this is an official statement, rubber, not rubber, it will be difficult, but no one will refuse, it is just such that it concerns uh, purely formalities, how easy, how hard, uh germany is quite a bureaucratic country and it is used to everything happening according to the laws, the paragraph is normal and so on, it's quite difficult with ukrainians, because it still happens, for sure corruption is revealed when it happens . because it is prescribed. you must have a deadline. that's why people come to do it already, who, for example, think, oh, how to get social assistance, with all that, go to work, and why pay taxes and the like, that is, such questions there are also a few of them, sometimes they are quite

comical, but this is a reality that people have to adapt to whether everything is always easy. apparently, even with such a large number of germans, they were not ready as far as the citizens themselves and the perception of the germans themselves are concerned. i would say that in the first no, in the first months of the war, germany opened up like never before, that is, ordinary citizens of germany called and said, i am ready to give a room, i am ready to give an apartment, i am ready to help one second, one third, that is, it was like this that germany has not experienced well, probably since pre-war times. that is, at least the times of the second world war, it was something extraordinary, and this aid remains today, of course, the level of aid . that they offered does not mean that

they gave money, they helped, or money was given even to large humanitarian organizations, precisely to ukrainian organizations, just and not very much, but they gave so much, but the level of help was, well, there was readiness very big today, our people show themselves for various reasons, because of stress, because of difficult conditions, because you can’t talk about yourself negatively , partially so, that is, here, of course, what was like in ukraine , that is, for example. nothing is to blame and the fact that we have a war even if it is possible to resist there what is there maybe if germany or europe would somehow react differently then ordinary people are not to blame for anything that is, it is one thing and another that of course there are certain cases of negative misunderstandings for example, compliance with traffic rules , parking rules, that is, until now we have managed

to convince the germans, the german authorities that it is possible, let's make such an exception for ukrainians, although this is not an exception, but somehow more lenient towards them, that is, maybe we need a little more time, but we just have our own. they say rails and now there are already and fined and put in place and sometimes it is a little unfortunate or well, the misunderstanding is that people came here looking for shelter and as they say come to someone else's house with their own rules volya this is difficult to twist, but in general, so far, it is absolutely tolerable for some, the conditions are really difficult, that is, you cannot find an apartment. well, how could they not be found here before with such an influx ? to germany and they have to go to another country. is this often an

obstacle, the impossibility of finding housing for me, the possibility of finding housing, this does not mean that people remain on the street, that is, the german side places them in different places. that is, these are containers there are even camps, that is, we have, for example, in the north, it is the largest camp there, at the moment there are about 1,300 people, but most of them are containers and they heat themselves in these tents, which means that it is cold there, but they are trying to make some conditions, but it is not an apartment, well find an apartment now it's simply unreal, there are many hotels in which people live, even 500 to 700 people, but for example, the latest events, let's say so, or the latest information was about the fact that they can even afford to drink there, that is well, it is no different from what happened in our country. people find themselves. what was very positive for the germans was that our refugees, after

they arrived in germany , already found work on the third or fourth day, that is, the germans now they have a very long history with migrants, the ukrainians are extraordinary, that is, when everyone said and thought, as it were, now sit on their social system and move your feet, then with the ukrainians, it is completely different. for them, it’s just, well , such a gap, again, the same pattern what ukrainians came, firstly, they want to return to ukraine and secondly, they want to work. of course, there is a problem, for example, in other countries. with a fairly good knowledge of english, it is easier for them to find a job even with knowledge of english without knowledge of the german language , yes, that's right, that is, but we even had examples of german companies when german companies offered,

i must say, low-skilled work for people who did not know anything at all with an electronic translator, there are a lot of positive moments when, for example, a law firm called and said, let's hire a doctoral student who, even if i speak english, let's hire him as a research assistant. the demand of refugees who are currently in germany. it probably does not satisfy because germany is again bureaucratic and has a lot of requirements for the so-called regulated professions which you need to have confirmation have access have knowledge of the language these are doctors teachers lawyers in addition to all three you need to give germany the right that it employed ukrainian teachers without knowledge of the german english language

. germany has such an obligation that children go to school, which means that the children had to go to school immediately, according to the request of our diplomatic institutions and our public organizations. we managed to convince them that after all a large number of children are forced or have a desire to return to ukraine together with their parents, that this phenomenon is temporary and they will still need this knowledge of the ukrainian language, ukrainian subjects of the ukrainian curriculum, and so they took so-called integration classes to schools in a class where children learn only in german they hired ukrainian teachers so that they would continue with them to help them study the ukrainian program.

ukrainian children. it is quite difficult to answer clearly because it depends on the region. that is, sometimes it was not a problem at all, but if you take into account that the child goes to school, then this is if you have arrived and if there is no place in the nearest school, then you will simply be told where to go. your child has to go to school, where are we, her ideas will find a place, sometimes it usually took a certain amount of time, as for kindergartens, it is a little more complicated here, depending on whether people have gone to work or people are just now attending courses or just are they looking for courses or do they need some kind of medical and psychological help? it depends on whether there is a kindergarten or not. well, for example, for this camp, which i already mentioned, where there are over a thousand elementary schools , they built

a primary school right at this camp. they built two floors and there are classrooms where there is an elementary school where the children study german, and accordingly, but they are all, well, 99% with at the same time, it is exactly the same with the kindergarten, that is, what children, what children who are in that camp can be uh sent to this kindergarten. parents are not always ready to do this, that is, they are traumatized, that is, those who really left those territories where there was shelling, where they were forced to sit in basements . they talked about the fact that some ukrainian refugees returned to ukraine for a while, maybe there to their relatives or to their homes after the liberation of the territory and then returned to germany, what is the attitude there now the understanding of what it is like social tourism is acquired in

general in german society, although there is a certain degree of dissatisfaction. yes, it is probably there somewhere , because they talk about ukrainians as a group that has certain privileges, that is, now the procedure for providing assistance looked like that at the border of a certain country the priority was the rule, it was a country, there were some kind of camps where people were identified by fingerprints, as they say, and then, according to a certain quota, they were sent to some city and the like. first of all, because of the events that were in february, march, which was a very huge flow, then no one did this, and europe, uh, deliberately said that we are opening the border and anyone can go wherever he wants, only ukrainians, no , it is exclusively only from ukraine. that is, it could have been

people from other countries nationalities, but this is ukraine, but those who left ukraine from ukraine were allowed to do so, and they gave them the opportunity to register, then through the city. where did they go ? i registered, but i can't. yeah, i don't like it here. i'm going somewhere else. you can go anywhere if you don't apply for social assistance. if you want to work or have your savings, you can go wherever you want. no one is holding you back if you apply for social assistance. help, then you have to do it depending on the rules. what else did this so-called social tourism include? politicians noticed the river when ukrainians simply hid their income, that is, social assistance and support is in german society understands it as such a small town, when

a tragedy happened to me, i have no income there, i have nothing to live on, but where exactly was this help given to me, and i can use it, but imagine what if a person comes under, let's say yes, social service on a car that costs more than 100,000 euros and goes to take those 400-500 euros, then they have a certain first-rateness, some kind of personality, even though it is clear to everyone that sometimes i explained to many that this is possible, the only thing that people have left now it somehow keeps them but yes reality is so harsh that sooner or later the germans will say no, you know, if we have, for example , another second or third, then you have to live on those savings, and only then will we help you, and a sense of proportion is what this was. it was also

partly social when for example, those areas or those institutions that wanted to provide help, well, we observed the situation when ours, let's say, even though the searchers took so much, so much could be taken, and sometimes it was like that a little bit, we had to explain to people that no one will help you. there is no point in carrying out 20 liters of shampoo right now. well, there were moments like this. maybe they were negative somewhere, but they didn’t need to be massive. no, they are not massive, they are isolated, rather, they are an exception to the case. so, what would you like to ask? how would you describe the attitude of the germans in one or two words? to the ukrainian refugees right now with greater understanding with greater understanding understanding yes they already expect from them first of all that there are very positive signals in various directions yes that is, first of all that people go to courses and courses

for example, the study of german is quite positively perceived, that is, first of all, not everyone can enroll at once. i know cases when people came to germany at the beginning of april and were able to get to the school to study german only in september, and then only in december exams for the first basic level of knowledge of german, well, of course, this is really a problem, but the germans were given the opportunity, that is, if we put it this way, everything depends on the people, if people move in somehow to advance, then they will find places, that is, realistically it is not enough, now the problem is not in the premises themselves and the teachers who will be there, because these teachers must have certain certificates, have a certain admission and, accordingly, there will never be a certain load on each teacher, no more than

how many people there are. no, not even that. even the fact that they must have a certificate, a certain diploma from a certain institution, in order to do this. and there are simply not many places with such admissions in general, so that they can cover this whole burden, what is available for those who want, there are always different opportunities from online courses to free courses, they are of course not of the same quality, but what does someone there offer from the germans , for example, to teach, that is, if you wish, you can always realize yourself in some way, one more moment . a believing nation. they come to a completely different country where there is a completely different religion. how do people find where to go to church? i guess i will also allow myself to say that there is a problem here, but the problem is

probably not german. rather, the problem is ukrainian and the problem is that religion is one of those elements when we identify ourselves in some way , along with the fact that we identify ourselves as a nation, we also identify ourselves as christians, for example, are there other problems with other confessions that we notice are people who come and they don’t understand the difference between the ukrainian church and the russian church, they don’t understand the question of religion, if everyone prays, everyone has the right to pray for whom, and if people leave the territory, where do they go or there were hostilities where they sat in the basement and they go to the russian church for many of us becomes simply, well , i don’t understand, i don’t understand. do they not understand what

it is, or why? this is probably one and more extended if you go beyond the boundaries of religion to say that this is an important point such as the identification system and it is not only language language - it is only a tiny tiny tool, we in germany asked such a question russian-speaking population, what is it or how to define it, who are the russian speakers, because russian speakers, if you compare them with german-speaking english speakers, then it just goes what are these people who speak that language ugh, but in germany, everything that was in the soviet union is connected with even sub-russian speakers, and we we are also trying to break through this wall, let's say so and convey that these are not the same thing , that there is a huge difference in the mentality of people

and affiliations, that these people are not necessarily connected to russia, sometimes even against her, in the end, i would like to ask you to give possible advice to people who are just planning to go to germany, to come to germany, so that you advise them that they must know to remember when they go to germany to receive temporary protection, to be patient and understanding that no matter how germany is in the european union, it is a powerful country financially, there are also problems here, and the level here does not always correspond to what people expect. there is nothing. also, how was the imagination that here money

should be collected simply under the bushes, then there is no such thing, and apparently the last thing is that the time they will spend here is a prospect for many, it is an opportunity for many to look and see if people understand that it is safe here, it is, they will not be here without food, without heat, they will take care of it, the conditions will not always be met, but they will be, but the second is a real prospect. germany today allocates a lot of money for the reconstruction of ukraine. er, as public organizations, we also hold round tables with politicians, where we invite and try to explain, show them these things, and apparently this is the case with people. that is, these moments are the perspective to see, learn and move on . well, for sure, no one

owes anyone anything forget about paternalism, which in hundred we have with mother's milk, maybe in most of the ukrainians, thank you very much p rostislav for this conversation danke sean tales guta and glory to ukraine to the heroes, glory to you thank you very much step by step shot with apostrophe hall after hall battle after battle they liberate our land from the enemy in a confident, planned and inevitable step by step until victory itself on the day of the ground troops of the armed forces of ukraine they work in the dark giving us light even during

rocket attacks despite the weather and danger day and night they they do everything possible so that we have warmth and communication, let there be interruptions that bring us life, people who have already become heroes, although you will not see them renewed, who will dispel any darkness, our real knights of light thanks to you, we will survive the winter, we must

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