and take place in accordance with the composition of all allies, well, besides, it is even beneficial for us, because if the european union, which helps us to see their interest in these compensatory mechanisms, then perhaps they will come up with them sooner. i was able to fend off something for myself later and compensate in some international courts . well, for example, if you can on the one hand object to you and on the other hand support you, it all depends on how you look at it, you know. if from the point of view point of view to see that reparations are more than costs, well, from an economic point of view, because human life cannot be returned and human life cannot be counted in any way, but if the economic costs and all the financial costs are there and so on, if the reparations are greater than those costs, then of course it is profitable for us because it turns out as it turns out that ukraine can compensate for all the expenses other countries can cover all the

expenses of all the stages of the gauge for the killed people, then everything is as if and if the situation is different and if the situation is if russia brings disaster more than the whole, this russia with all these reparations with all its property, then we mean what has already been arrested by what can be easily reached with this to what then we can discuss but why can you support and not only deny because look how you can ask the question well, we will understand that after the victory ukraine will still have a difficult economic situation and ukraine will have to i would still continue to help build a new country. and at the expense of what to build a new country that was destroyed by the previous version of the country, russia, which was rising, but only just started to rise, yes , due to all the processes that were before that, and here, of course, one should be supported, because it is really

concrete money and this is a concrete answer from europe that after victory you will not need to finance the restoration of ukraine, reparations will be enough for the restoration of ukraine and to cover part of the previous destruction until part of it is possible, that is, how to see how the intended purpose of this money is to build a new ukraine, to compensate for those losses, which tasks are to compensate for direct investments that now consist of what to defeat russia, here you know how to describe the intended purpose of this money, so it will be, who will it really be the last question means that the funds that will continue to be discovered will be frozen and confiscated, all these russian assets will be transferred to the compensation fund , and the compensation commission will manage it. there is an understanding of who should be in this commission, from whom it should be formed, it will be representatives of the governments

of countries interested in the process. should it be some independent experts not related to politics, for example, it should be representatives of governments, unequivocally, it should be the big seven. it should be the european union, it should be international financial organizations that have joined in supporting ukraine, i.e. it is obvious that it should be those who actually work today on the financial battlefield and on the real battlefield. so what it seems to me that everything is clear here, but roughly speaking, europe plus the atlantic gives the atlantic bloc plus the united states, britain, japan, that is, it is obvious that there should be representatives of small countries that, well , if, for example, do you remember how to look at the rating of support for ukraine if look at the percentage of what you have, yes, there, for example, the

baltic countries are very much at the top of the rating. they give 10 hryvnias, it’s always very important to ask you, a millionaire gave you 10 hryvnias, i didn’t even notice if a pensioner gave you 10 hryvnias for which of her thousand hryvnias she has there, uh, and these 10 hryvnias make up a whole percentage of what is in it was also very important to foresee that such mechanisms should be represented at the same time by the communities when different countries, including small ones, but which helped us a lot, roughly speaking , like that pensioner gave uah 10,100, that is, from a percentage to 10% of everything they have from of his children, chi those countries that are very rich, but little by little, it also melts and comes out. the sums are colossal, but because they had it, it was not very much compared to these previous countries, that is, this commission must take into account the fact that various civilized countries of the world

helped us in order to survive now, survive and then to win, because we are still talking on the way to victory, and this compensation commission, this commission, what will be the repatriation, and it, too, today is only a project, it is evolving. that is, everyone understands how to properly organize it. you do not it seems to me, oleksandr, that you and i have been sharing the skin of an unkilled bear for 15 minutes now , not because i am sure of our victory. i am sure that this question will be asked, and in general, i consider our victory not to return to the borders february 23-24 and not even return at the border of 1991, i believe that you and i, khrystyna, and all the rest of our ukrainians will witness the main victory of the destruction of the russian empire, thank you for this oleksandr solontay, an expert at the institute of political education, the executive director of the age of restoration and development was with us on the phone and talked about the prospects of compensating losses for ukraine from those assets that it will be possible

to freeze and recover from the russian federation around the world, but we must understand that most likely in the future those countries that helped us to resist will also be able to use these assets the russian federation will eventually become the co-authors of our victory over this monster. we are moving on. volodymyr aryev, people 's deputy of ukraine, contact us. of the next package of sanctions, it will already be the 9th, as of today, we were waiting for the approval of this new package from the eu council. of the federation, and the high-ranking representative of the

european union, jose borelli, who said that he hopes that by the end of the current day or tomorrow, the minister of foreign affairs of the eu member states will still be able to agree on different approaches and rights, in fact, the sanctions packages are always more difficult the further they are in particular, in the 14th year, the first packages of sanctions against russia for the annexation of crimea were passed like a knife through butter . - a chisel, which is a more serious tool, actually the same situation and now, er, precisely because moscow is working against ukraine in some special countries, members of such a union, which are sensitive to moscow and sensitive to economic restrictions, which are introduced especially in the energy sector against

of the russian federation, therefore, in this case , these difficulties arise, in order to overcome them , it must be done very simply. ukraine must strengthen its information work and interrupt moscow on this field, given how sensitive the west is to the position ukraine is quite possibly another matter. that ukraine is now in the more precise leadership of ukraine. it is in the media space , in particular on the territory of our partners. you have zero effect, then the western direction will be completely omitted. and just by itself, nothing happens there, so we see now in the picture uh, in particular, i saw the minister of foreign affairs of hungary,

hungary is constantly trying to bargain for uh, so that uh, ukraine will give less because in this case hungary understands that we are taking over the help that it really wants to get for itself and only after hungary was convinced that if they block ukraine, they will not get anything at all then it is clear that the position is changing, well, this is one of the examples that was before each member state has, er, the european commission has its own approach, er, it is clear that this mechanism of interaction within the european union is extremely complex, but you know cherchin also said that democracy is probably a bad form of government, but the world is better. i haven’t come up with it yet. and here, in order to reach a consensus, you really need to take into account the interests of all parties in, or even then, the

children, in particular, and it’s tougher, as in some cases , it already happened, for example, in hungary, sir volodymyr well, from what we know about the ninth package of sanctions, which has not yet been approved by ursula fondelain, the other day they mentioned what items will be included in it, it is a-a large number of er, about 200 individuals and companies that will be under sanctions. so we know that sanctions are proposed against the three russian banks, not the largest, of course, but still not bad, additional export restrictions for dual-purpose goods, including certain chemical components, nerve agents, electronics, software that can be used specifically for military purposes. and on the fourth point, i would like to stop a little bit. the european commission has prepared measures for russia's equipment, access to drones, a-a, a ban on the direct export of motors for drones to russia, as well as exports

to them, e-e, to third countries, such as iran that can supply the drones of the russian federation. please tell me if the sanctions are not approved as a package or if they do not find a compromise on any of the points , we can at least hope for the approval of a number of other points because, for example, complications from russia receiving drones from iran, well, it is very interesting to us now, taking into account the fact that they are used again and again. i think that we are talking now about specific personalities or companies that are tied to certain interests of certain businessmen in the member states of the members of the european union who are influential in their country and try to avoid problems in an appropriate way. i don't think that they will avoid the sanctions regarding the dual purpose. moreover, this issue is not

just a punishment, it is a security issue for ukraine and not only our own for ukraine well, it is not enough that a third country is understood to be not only a country from the so-called axis of evil, iran, north korea and so on, these are also countries that carry out re-exports to the russian federation, the assistants on this were kazakh - kazakhstan and even georgia were noticed in these matters, but it was just there that the opposition raised a scandal about this, and i don't know if it was political or required by the facts. nevertheless, we understand that russia will use only, so to speak, they are marked by evil countries, and not at all, or conditionally neutral countries

that can help in exports. therefore, it is now very important to establish, we are talking about the cooperation of the secret services of the whole world, which are interested in russia not receiving components for the creation weapons for tracking dual-purpose goods, including contracts in other countries, now this is an issue. well, for example, i explained this all the time to politicians and his um, well, to representatives of the governments of various countries that uh, now this is an issue of global security and from the fact that how will it happen in ukraine, will ukraine not be able to fight back, it depends on the future fate of the confrontation between civilizations, democratic versus authoritarian, that's why it's important now to do everything possible so that the russian army can pierce all its military teeth and then

the nuclear one, respectively, to give until the end, when the logical chain of events will lead to internal conflicts within the russian federation, in fact, this entire evil empire, or rather , a pseudo-empire, who knows what is trying to conditionally become the soviet union, so i think that the sanctions that directly affect the military potential of ukraine and the european union will support this, but i think that we just have to see the list of the final ones directly of banks and individuals of the persons against whom you are being introduced, i think that's exactly what it's about. although, as you understand, i'm not in victory for them,

and that's why it's a fact that what exactly is a stumbling block? with the package, the sanctions are becoming more and more, i would not like to say weak, and this is not for the sake of criticizing our partners. are unprecedented and they are even tougher than against iran, but, in principle, they have to pursue one goal here, you know, we either do it or we do n’t. so what do we do here, we don’t do it, we wrap the fish, uh, it won’t work, propetlets, no will work because the sanctions have to do one single thing to stop russia from aggressive intentions

towards ukraine and further against other countries of the former soviet space, including those that are currently members of the european union, these are the baltic countries two latvia, estonia, in particular, and that's why no one will succeed in these two sagittarius, in fact, the biggest problem is because of the fact that europe does not want to realize one thing that a period of golden development when for cheap energy carriers with russia is a cheap labor market in china, it all ended because, er, the hook on which democratic countries were caught by authoritarian regimes, it is now, well, in principle, the issue can fail and there are every chance to disrupt the plans of authoritarian regimes, to put er, on this economic hook, er, democratic the world is so much

that it is just accidental, although in all these possibilities, it will destroy the economy, it will not actually destroy it, but the blow will be here, it is already said that the local citizens of the buns can, according to the opinion of moscow , protest against their governments, is it possible it is possible to do. i say once again that it is an information policy, and it is a quality information policy, especially from the side of ukraine. it will not be possible to do. therefore, the key interest of ukraine now is a proper information war against the russian federation on the territory of our allies so

that it repels the attacks that are being planned. there, we understand that the european union was really independent in terms of energy, although we warned other countries, in particular germany, how the story of nord stream gas number two will end and there is no rapid reorientation. it is just energy blackmail. well, china has its own, you have seen the effects of that . europe must wake up from its golden dream and understand about the fact that this time is finally uh finally all accepted the fact that this time is over and we need to completely reorient ourselves to countering authoritarianism thank you volodymyr and to the people's deputy of ukraine about the next package of sanctions of the european union against the russian federation e which have not yet been adopted, we are waiting for some final

decision with iran, it is easier there from the weather in additional serious violations of human rights in iran and because of tehran's help to the russian federation in the war against ukraine minister of foreign affairs of 20 seven countries- eu members today in brussels unanimously decided to introduce new sanctions against iran, as confirmed by several diplomatic e-e media in europe, well, now it would be interesting to even count who is now the most iran or the russian federation have already overtaken iran or the russian federation as a subordinate country and have gone to a new circle in connection with the studio. glory to ukraine heroes congratulations , we need your comment regarding the prospects

of expanding the grain corridor, this is exactly what the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi and the president of turkey recep tayyip erdoğan erdoğan spoke about held a telephone conversation with the president of the russian federation, putin. well, he does this regularly, and there was also talk of the possibility of exporting through the grain corridor, but also of other food products and goods, mrs. olya, as of now , we have this golden path, without exaggeration, functioning. yes, thank you very much. unfortunately , we do not yet know the details of the expansion of the corridor . of the grain corridor if we talk about its functioning, today the work is actually going on, we can see that, for example, somewhere in a week well

, in different ways of course so here is one of the last weeks at the beginning of december, and we saw that almost a million tons of regular e was exported through this corridor, that is very good indicators of its work, in general, during the grain initiative of the grain corridor , more than 13 million tons of grain were able to be exported. and so, i want to remind everyone that this is really important for ukrainian farmers, also because they have to receive money for the grown products, they need to sell it, they need to sell it abroad, abroad , to foreign markets. the works or the expansion of the work of the grain corridor were discussed, as i already said. unfortunately,

i personally do not have any information about this yet. i think that it is possible somewhere, in the next few days we will receive a little bit of some kind of something. additional, some additional sources, and here are the details regarding these new agreements or the possibility of these agreements. yes, but we know that, first of all, the russian federation and putin have repeatedly raised the issue of resuming work of the ammonia pipeline in odesa. here it is, in order to improve the possibility of exporting fertilizer from russia in some way. and there are some other points. therefore, for now, we will carefully say that we are watching and hoping that this work will not be done to the corridor. moving is the only thing i have to say that the last couple of days after the attacks on the energy infrastructure of odesa

, unfortunately, it could not be said that it was not reflected in the work of the ports, of course, because everything is connected to the energy sector, we will understand, and that is why the last couple of days, of course, there were difficulties, especially in work odesa by the port of odesa, and because of this, we really hope that our energy engineers will do everything possible so that the odesa port works again on a full scale. many people note that this can be a serious subject for a-a conversations, russia is extremely interested in this. but in this interest and in the representation of the united nations organization, it is not mr. gute aresh himself, one of his deputies noted that in the future, this is ammonia in general, fertilizers from russia, this may be even more important than grain exports from ukraine for the food security of the world,

please explain this situation with russian fertilizers and with ammonia, in particular, how important is this in the long term, and how often it can rise again well, in fact, i think that, first of all, it is still important for russia, and here is the export of fertilizers in this way, and of course, hmm, we understand , let's say, the interest of the russian side in making it work again, although in fact i i will tell you that according to the information that we have, he did not work so effectively even in recent years, it was connected there with internal conflicts of the companies involved in this a-a ammonia pipeline, these are er-e russian companies. so, first of all, secondly the position of the ukrainian side was already announced as at least two times by our president, mr. zelenskyi. and when he said that, well, first of all, this question is enough, let's say yes without

risking safety, because it's me. if you look at the map, it passes very often, and somewhere near big cities and for example, back in the spring, a part, or rather, one of the elements of this pipeline was damaged in the luhansk region, which led to emissions and, well , quite serious ordinary environmental consequences , respectively, in the conditions of this full-scale war in the conditions of uncontrolled missile strikes, when it is not known where it will fly into, which elements of the infrastructure, whether it reads energy or into a pipe, and because well, we perfectly understand how russia behaves, a terrorist, and to subscribe to the fact that this pipeline will work well, frankly, it is really quite enough a serious risk, first of all, secondly, as president zelenskyi said, what is a prerequisite

political condition from our side, the prerequisite of these talks regarding the launch of this soft pipeline in general is, of course , first of all, the exchange of prisoners, all for all, and i think that including you and i, we have to stock up a little here regarding the lack of information about the negotiations for a new launch or restart of this soft pipeline , because ah, we have to understand what is going on, uh, it's so difficult, i'm sure, so the negotiations about what there will be some serious political and other factors here that influence the adoption of such a decision . accordingly, it is not only about the economy, and it is definitely not about. in other ways, please, again, we must not forget the lessons of the gas pipelines and the nord stream 1:2 russia

, any, absolutely, and i don’t know the way to export our own energy carriers or in this case of ammonia, she uses it as a lever of political pressure, and we have to say it perfectly, so we should always keep this in mind that, um, giving the opportunity, let's say so. then either russia can be used again, once again, and how is there some additional lever of pressure in certain situations, uh, once again, this is not taking into account just directly some security factors, so within the framework of such a uh, terrorist war that russia is waging there are extremely many elements , let's say yes, it's very difficult and complex. hmmm, the problem is that you can't say it like that or

cut it off and say it. of course, we start it there so that the grain corridor continues to work or vice versa. these are languages a-a i think that we need to be a little patient and wait about e. regarding this e exactly regarding this question a-a and ms. olga at the end wanted to ask a question that our tv viewers often ask me a-a the green from ukraine program yes that is, we we offer our food to the countries of africa, asia, and the middle east. as far as i understand, there are those who need it the most, and we send it all in the form of humanitarian aid, or do we receive a certain profit for it from ukrainians who are currently not in a very comfortable situation they ask the question, what do we get from it a-a-m-m well, actually, no, look at the porfita, we don’t get so much from this actually, first of all, because this grain is

purchased at the expense of those states of those countries that have already acted as partners in this program, that is, in fact, yes, you are right, it is humanitarian, this is a component of this grain initiative, but it is nevertheless important for us. er, accordingly, this is one moment and it helps us and what is also, in my opinion, no less important? hmm, for today. it is for sure that he helps us in the informational struggle against those propaganda standards that were spread by russia. what do you see in this corridor? they go where they need to go, and they do not go to countries that holo and accordingly this program absolutely clearly shows , look, already 30 countries have connected to almost 200

million dollars collected in order to buy grain from ukrainian farmers and according to it, they are already sent, for example, the third ship left today, if i am not mistaken, in the direction of somalia, one of the african countries that suffer the most from e-e problems with security , accordingly, this is a very important component, it is a very successful political and informational initiative, which really , again, will not prevent our farmers from receiving additional of this program, the funds for the implemented zno thank you very much for your always professional comments for this analysis olga trofimtseva ambassador with special mandate of zs of ukraine former acting minister of agrarian policy and food of ukraine at this point, my time for you at espresso is coming to an end .