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hungary stepped in. as the head of the foreign ministry of hungary explained, his ukraine considers the european union's sanctions policy to be a failure and that until the new time, until now, they have brought the decision-making process in europe and the reaction to the war to a dead end. true, boris hopes that the sanctions will be adopted by the end of this week and that's all for today, look for more stories on our website vvc.ua on our pages in social networks we will be on the air again tomorrow at 9:00 pm take care let's see how people who suffer from rheumatism and arthrosis live in the morning smeared with dolgit now let the dolgit cream relieve
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have information and shape public opinion people who defend ukraine and create the future right now the main and interesting thing in the program verdict serhiy rudenko monday through thursday at 5:10 p.m. repeat at 9:30 p.m. greetings dear tv viewers my name is vasyl zima today i will host the verdict program serhii rudenko will soon return to eten well, for now we will stand our brotherly shoulder to him, as they say and i will briefly announce the approximate losses suffered by the enemy in the forest on our land and receiving blows from the armed forces of ukraine. therefore, the
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aggressor's personnel losses amounted to 94,760, and the enemy lost tanks in battles with the armed forces of ukraine, 2,966 units of combat armored vehicles have already been destroyed by means of e-e damage of the armed forces of ukraine, 5,928 units of artillery systems are much less, but there were already 1,929 units. of the enemy's anti-aircraft defense, 211 units of aircraft were neutralized, the enemy underestimated, er, 281 aircraft will no longer fly and will not drop bombs on our land, helicopters, the enemy lost 264 unmanned aerial vehicles operational-tactical level 1617 cruise missiles -
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500 e 590 e two qatari ships 16 units well also 4.5 thousand vehicles and auto tanks even a little more than 4544 well and special equipment which the enemy did not have was destroyed by the armed forces of ukraine 169 units and now i will involve our experts in the conversation, you know, today it happened to be on this broadcast today, there are a lot of important topics that should be discussed, just as they say, some new reality is being created before our eyes, which may or may not not to turn out here, you need to understand how it will be, but the prerequisites for this are there. so, i am attaching oleksiy hetman, a military analyst, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war. oleksiy, i congratulate you . good evening. i am glad to see and hear, and pavlo, the national military expert of mr. pavlo, greets you . good evening, i will start from the first i just
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read the question and here, if a military view is needed and an expert view is needed, then we will try to rotate it. there was a rumor that is more or less probable because it has a basis. so, yesterday, i think you definitely know about it and our viewers also know about it because we told them about it and they read it, obviously, that rajet, you are her prodigal , the president of the republic of turkey first called putin, then he called volodymyr zelensky, after that, volodymyr zelensky called the president of the french republic, manuel macron, and it is said that the president of the republic offered putin a formula for exiting this war, from which putin is said to want to exit, and this formula contains one simple the fact is that putin should withdraw from all territories of ukraine, but crimea, according to the people who voiced this information, should supposedly be in ukrainian de jure, but de facto it should not be for 10 years, after which
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a referendum should allegedly be held in which local residents already they will decide on the fate of crimea, mr. oleksiy addressed you for the first time . how favorable do you think this scenario is , despite the fact that ukraine now unequivocally declares that it is ready to fight for the return of crimea to its state, please, first emotion if if please allow, let's make it possible for 10 years in a neutral kolingrad region. and after 10 years, we will hold a referendum in the kaliningrad region on whether they want to be part of the russian federation or at least join, for example, switzerland. these are unacceptable things. in this way, we can save putin's face, let his botix not his face be saved by master make-up artists who will prepare the clothing owner degarsky tribunal, so if mr. redagan, mr. macron and mr. president zelensky it means somehow to stop the war, then it
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can be stopped only after the complete withdrawal of russian troops from our territory, it seems that this was the decision of the national security council, or our council of the national nsdc, and mr. president zelenskyi said that he fully supports such a resolution that only negotiations are possible about the reports, he talked about how to further develop relations with russia, because it will still be a northern neighbor and it will not look anywhere, but only after all russian troops are withdrawn to one or another way after the defeat, after they decided so of their own free will, let them tell themselves to their own population that only all our territories will be liberated, only then can negotiations be put to the table. i understand that european countries, even nato members, they really do not want this conflict to spread, they very much they don't want to fight with anyone , you can understand them, they have a normal, well-established
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life, but here, understand, our country is somehow waging a war and does not seem to be resisting it. thank you for your support, but once again, mr. zelensky repeatedly said, let's listen to our supreme commander-in-chief, that he can no longer just talk like that, that he is already responsible for his words, the truth is, we know that, he said that there are no victories with the russian federation until the fullness of their seats, they are already a man, let him stick to his words. i think that he will not hold on, we all respect and believe him, it’s true. well, of course we do. that’s why i quoted the statement of the president’s discussion, the statement of the head of state, who clearly said that ukraine wants and will return all its territories and aims to reach the borders of 1991, which were actually specified in the constitution of our country. well, and all international agreements with our partners, and this is the territory of the state of ukraine, mr. pavla, but you are them at the moment, we understand that now they will still look for options to end the war as soon as possible and so that ukraine would still have its own borders, but
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crimea would still be somehow taken out of hand, and putin seemed to agree that something should be done about this, well, this is the idea that erdoğan voiced, and that we remember that similar experience has already been sold since an island in the mediterranean sea that has a turkish and a greek part well, but here, that is, there are such precedents, maybe they exist. what do you think , the position of the president is clear, what do you think is erdoğan's clear proposal? it can be considered and considered by our nato partners, first of all, be please, this is only a proposal to preserve this conflict for many, many, many years. i think that we are. we need to return to the border of 1991. we have a clear law on the referendum. i can quote it from memory, but it seems that everything is written there very simply: it is necessary to collect 1 million signatures
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of citizens of ukraine for the entire territory of ukraine, and after that, if there are 1,000,000, everything can be held a referendum, it is held three months after the central election commission of ukraine checked this million signatures after that three months later, all citizens of ukraine, not only residents of crimea, vote in this referendum on whether crimea can secede or some other part of the territory, well, that is, i am clearly registered with us the mechanism of this work, but during martial law, now we have martial law, elections are not held, referendums are not held, mass meetings are not held, they are prohibited by the law on martial law, and so on and so on, and similar meat of the implementation of laws, let's strictly follow the laws and hold a referendum if if it is possible to collect a million signatures clearly specifically according to the law of ukraine because crimea is the territory of ukraine, so i will now propose, well, in any case, we will monitor the development of these events, this information
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it may be true and likely and likely that regayan still had some proposals, because here is this connection with putin, then zelensky, then well, maybe there was a certain idea, we'll wait in any case, er vertogan there, i understand that the elections will soon be you know, in ukraine, politicians from different countries are often sold for elections, in a good or bad sense. in any case, the increase is more beneficial for themselves than for us, so it is very correct, and what mr. oleksiyovych said is very right to trust to the ukrainian ukrainian command, the ukrainian authorities understand what ukraine's interests are here, i think that in this war we have developed in ourselves this character of a subject of world politics, not objects, who should also have their say and not just listen to what is offered there so that it would be beneficial to other countries, i just now paula two words can be said, of course, very calmly expressed very, very simple and reasonable thoughts on the
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whole the constitution of ukraine and the law of ukraine because they think it will be cool for us or for some other countries. let us be law-abiding citizens and we aspire to join the european union. we aspire to join nato. we cannot violate our constitution and our law. that's useful. thank you for the advice, but we will. when we change the constitution, when we change our laws, when the verkhovna rada makes such decisions and the constitutional court will not be against it, and the president will sign it, after that we will consider any proposals. i think that there is no need for any great diplomacy. if these proposals violate our constitution or our laws, we have no right, just not what he wants. we don't want to. we don't have the right to comply. i invite you and our viewers to listen to the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznikov, who explained the goals of the massive missile strikes on ukraine, and then we talk about the missile strikes themselves and the stockpile
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of missiles in the russian federation, their purpose is to plunge you into darkness and cold during the winter period in order for us to give up, for us to give up, for us to stop holding the stream, to stop holding the resistance, to lose our stability and then, according to their plan, we may want negotiations, we may ask for the help of the kremlin's lawyers, who dream of us sitting down at the table to win on the kremlin's terms, respectively of course and they want to shake this unity of the ukrainian nation, but they will not succeed. well , we will start with this because russia wants to plunge ukraine into fear, gloom, cold, uncertainty, stress and many other problems for in the words of the prime minister of ukraine, denys shmyhal, yesterday he said that virtually all hydroelectric and
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thermal power plants in ukraine are affected, the situation in some regions is critical, as in odesa oblast in particular, the situation is very difficult in kyiv oblast, lviv oblast , vinnytsia oblast, dnipropetrovsk oblast, well, the situation is not easy, and we will start from this, putin's war of attrition, because actually it cannot be called anything else, this is a war of attrition, as far as it can be successful, local, maybe this winter, and are the ukrainians already now the government and society and business have already adapted to this life under the blows of life without electricity and partly without heat, please, mr. pavlo, i have a question for you, this is from a technical point of view. we are currently under a huge threat . missiles can be received by russia in large quantities, this is a huge threat to us, the sick system actually does not exist. we have 300, which are very limited in their ability to shoot down missiles, that is, the radius of action is very small, we will not be able to protect our
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critical infrastructure objects, and if or when russia gets all the missiles, it will use them 100% first for strikes on civilian infrastructure. and what can happen to the blockades that we currently have? without electricity and they can become weeks , the disappearance of heating in some big cities, well , starting there with a population of 300,000 and more, so we have not yet seen the most difficult situation that can be, i cannot say that a business can somehow one hundred percent adapt or protect itself from full cloud if we are talking about a week there, two weeks, three weeks, or the lack of heating , let's say in offices or at some productions, therefore , unfortunately, unfortunately, the winter will definitely be very hard. russia has its own production of missiles, yes, it is relatively small, that is, we are talking about one a missile
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per day is approximately how much they can produce, and that is why we need to rebuild the pen system, as well as build a system that can hit the launch sites of these missiles, as well as missiles from surface boats, from submarines, yes from rocketry and progress on this front, we can see, that is, there have already been strikes on the engels podyaglu , there have already been strikes by surface drones in the sevastopol point on admiral makarov, er, well, at the moment, the martyrs are about 90-95 percent of which are shot down because, unfortunately, we cannot track it is not launched because the mobile platform there is very inconspicuous, very small , so we move on it and keep our formation and prepare for a difficult winter. oleksiy, i have a question for you. well, really , these are the strikes on the russian airfield. moreover, the strikes are far deep into the territory of the russian the federation almost 700 km, not even almost 700 km, they allegedly really forced the russian
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pilots, by the way, a pilot was killed there, well, he died as a result of the strikes that were precisely and uh, controlled by this uh, russian bomber , what kind of uh aimed missiles at ukraine, that's why this strike was, you know, in addition to the fact that we damaged their equipment , we also destroyed the pilot who actually killed the ukrainians. that's why it had little effect. supposedly speaking, now the russians are still trying to calculate how to fly and take into account, in principle, the danger from ukraine, how good is it and how to do it? yes, and what else do we need to have so that this fear and the need to maneuver and invent time so that they are not shot down forced the russians to calm down considerably with missile strikes, at least from at least and from planes, well, bombers that launch for us, to fly missiles is the predominant hasta 1x55, they are tu 95 360, they do not enter the zone
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of impact of our means against air defense, they fly into the territory of the russian federation, somewhere there, the order is directly even further, and those missiles that they they have a rather long range there, up to 1,000 km, and that's why we are not able to destroy planes, shoot down bombers in the air, so far we do n't have such means. to shoot down other planes that we hope will be given to us in the end, but to destroy them at the airfields before they fly in, we are quite capable of doing this, for this we need such long-range missiles well, for now we have enough of our uavs that we used here are 4, it's just 43 that were used as targets for training our means, radio patres, naborons. well, because we have to shoot, well, for training, not only at i have it already, not
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fighters, namely training ranges, not just what is there to simulate rocket launches, but to make launches rockets why do we need to shoot such missiles, they shot at all the arrows at these old uavs in order to be able to practice, now we have reworked them a little. they have a relatively long range of 700 km. they definitely fly. they are kamikaze uavs, that is, they are not they return and the damage they cause, well, they say that the russians have already moved their strategic bombers to a greater distance so that we could not get prices by means of impressions, well , they say that our friends with the area of ​​states successfully tortured us with tacit consent to use our weapons at a greater distance distance, although permission is not required , according to all the rules of humanitarian international law, we must destroy the enemy at his objects from which they attack our territory, any country has the right to shoot at those objects from which it is attacked
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ukraine is independent not by territory. it is located here. well, this is a norm of international law. well, we hope that if there is a certain agreement for us to use such weapons for an attack on the territory of the russian federation, maybe in the end we will get more long-range weapons, i mean not the cameras already shooting there for 700 or more km, and maybe it will be there suddenly, maybe it will pay extra if our friends in nato understand that we need to destroy the enemy exactly where he is carrying out attacks, and not already intercepting and making those who fly over our territory, although for this, too, we need to improve our air defense park, well, there are certain, uh, good news that we need, that additional means have been transferred to us during defense, i can’t disagree with pavel, with mr. pavel, that there is an air defense, i am against missile defense, yes this is a ballistic missile of the kind from kander, and against
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missile defense we are not very good so far, so all missiles will be difficult for us to intercept, and if there are a large number of them , our critical infrastructures can be damaged the only complex that can intercept is a short- and medium-range ballistic missile, this is exactly the patriot about which we have already talked a lot, but it is very valuable and there are certain certain nuances . was developed for short-range short-range ballistic missiles, just the anti-missile complex, the anti-missile system, i remember how we hoped for a miracle of obtaining hymers, especially when the long-range artillery and howitzer, do you remember when there were especially the battles of severodonetsk and tsiachansk. when in fact the courage or the skill of the bodies, the tenacity of some of the armed forces of ukraine held the enemy, then they crushed him, but what was very lacking was the high-precision artillery of these high-precision shells that we received and then
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received them, the war changed significantly. i hope that it will change in the same way when we are in petra , but there must be a certain period, we can still continue the initiative of the gray eagle, this is a powerful uav of the united states, if we receive them, we can strike the territory already far away of the russian federation, not in terms of civilian infrastructure facilities, but in terms of military decision-making bases or ammunition bases or a certain style of materials or logistics base . means on the territory of belarus, if i am not mistaken, on the brest training ground, closer to the border with ukraine, this is russian equipment, the russian soldiers who are there, as i understand it, are partially mobilized citizens of russia the federations that took up arms and now they are not just citizens, they are soldiers who can obviously
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come to kill, are our enemies, er . this is already another story. i would still like to ask you if there is a rational grain for putin now, if he has everything he needs to repeat the aggression from the north, er, from the north of ukraine, precisely from belarus, on the territory of our states where he can direct this blow and what can it actually give him, understanding that the ukrainians, the ukrainian troops, are also ready for a second attack from the territory of belarus , please, sir, and that there will be a blow from the side of belarus, not because i love lukasz lukashenka . i trust only because, from a technical point of view, in order to carry out this strike, they need to gather a group of approximately 120-150 thousand soldiers with heavy equipment that is unimaginable there, they need to be diluted with more or less
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serious combat-capable military units by the russian airborne forces, marines by some other, and all this is not there. everything we see, we see the movement of equipment from the territory of belarus is meant. heavy equipment is a tanker, artillery, artillery ammunition, and they are going in the direction of donbas, eh, currently the situation is completely different and cannot be compared since march of this year, our very serious troops have been concentrated on the territory on the border with belarus. they are fortified, this entire border is mined. there are only three or four roads on which a large number can move. equipment and these roads will be blocked very quickly, and i am more than sure that even if they come for such a suicidal, er, murderous attack, they will stop somewhere on the border and all these rivers and swamps of the chernihiv rivne region and will successfully drown our troops there
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oleksiy, i also address this question to you. and who is it to hear your opinion, and again we will get this information from a belarusian young man. if i am not mistaken, they provide information about the movement of these forces and means, the ukrainian side, weapons. is the command, the general staff, say that the enemy did not create a shock fist in order to attack from the other side, they treat, say, the minister of defense with great respect. territory of ukraine, although the enemy was already ready for the actual, in a few days, everything should have been ready. well, he struck. maybe then, uh, well , there was such a move, so don't say, i don't know , but then it was also said that there are no such things prerequisites for speaking so that the enemy will now strike directly, that's why i'm already very careful when i don't speak now, not about experts. and when the leadership somewhere they say that there isn't, maybe they don't know what we have, they don't tell us, that's why i always want to check 10 times and ask experts who
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understand the forces and means that exist and whether it is possible to achieve anything with these forces and means, understand that on the ukrainian side there are already mines , these trenches are dug, there is a wall, the artillery is prepared and everything is ready for an attack, well, everyone, please, regarding the statement of the minister to of the beginning of a full-scale invasion. he said then that if there is a 3 to 5-fold advantage. a person is a civilian by himself and he told him this information that we his advisers or his deputies gave him this information is true 560 years ago when people fought according to the principles of the second world war or even the first world war now we do not have a numerical advantage we do not have an advantage in weapons are on e-e, at least in the south of our ukraine, near kharkiv, near kherson, where we did a counter-offensive action, that is, we attacked the enemy
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with fewer people, fewer ter -techniques, fewer sets, but thanks to high-precision weapons, thanks to the correct tactics of conduct, we still have modern tactics the right to say that we should step on the same rake again, i do not advise the minister to say that it is necessary to calculate, once again, according to the principles of the old friend of the first world war, how much should there be an advantage when advancing, how much turnovers, it is possible to attack less and cause a certain amount of damage, but on the other hand, the troops that are now on our border from the side of belarus, they are not the kind of troops that are capable of making such a mood, it is correct, it is a hill - mr. pavlo says that it is unlikely that they will attack because first of all, we prepared for the attack, and secondly, they are not even in quantity, in terms of quality , there is no such thing as a school that would be able to give this opportunity. but the pastor now said that there is a large painting industry that russia can
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draw other countries into the war of russia against nato, so it can be expected that belarus will not attack ukraine, but attack some other country. everything can happen. poland can be biting not the beams in order to see how the alliance fulfills the fifth article of its charter so that it enters a war, a war, they support moral or weapons, namely a war against the russian federation and others against belarus, if a gift is made on its side against one of the members of the alliance, then attack such actions, well, it is inherent in the russian federation to make such provocations. can we expect, but once again, uh, some kind of offensive , that technique was invented, including the number of people who are in belarus on the border with our country, the eyes of 90 pronouns, it is definitely impossible. it may be that there were conversations on the part of the american institute of study earlier, it is possible be an attack on the rivne region or on the volyn region, some kind of attack attempt, most likely it will be a provocation, maybe direk will buy something or do it, but there is a warning that
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after all, they might try to do some damage to some country that is a member of the alliance to see what the reaction will be to me. here is what i have to say. there are some assumptions. the guests explained the situation to us, and regarding this story about erdoğan’s proposals regarding crimea, i saw on youtube people write uh, well, the audience there is a bot, of course, but they are here, so to speak, you know how they say for flavor and in general, the viewers are good, correct viewers and they write that they did not understand that there was something from crimea, well, apparently they turned on the espresso tv channel late, and i will briefly say that you understand this is a story that has not yet been confirmed, but it sounds like this repeatedly because it was yesterday there was a factor on the language of rechepa and pre-block with vladimir putin, and then things were protigan

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