but there is a precaution, still, they may try to do some damage to some country that is a member of the alliance to see what the reaction will be to me, so to say, there are such and such assumptions, thank you very much, thank you very much, mr. oleksiy oleksiy hetman, military analyst, russian-ukrainian veteran war was with us, i wish you a good evening, thank you very much, mr. pavla pavlo, the people's military expert, joined us . i saw crimea here on youtube, people write uh, well , viewers there are bots, of course, but they are so to speak here, you know how they say for the aroma. and in general, the viewers are uh, good, correct viewers and they write that they would not understand what is going on with crimea, well apparently, the espresso tv channel was turned on late, and i will briefly say that i understand this is a story that has not yet been confirmed, but it has been heard repeatedly because yesterday there was a language factor, a rechapad and a front-runner by vladimir putin, and then the president of ukraine, vladimir putin, ran things

zelensky and then zelensky called macron after that and they say that it was as if dovgan offered putin a way out of this situation in order to decide the fate of crimea at least for the next 10 years, to make crimea actually neutral, he would have yury belong to ukraine but would de facto be neutral and because 10 years to hold a referendum there and for those people who will live in crimea at that time because it can be different, i don't know who can settle in crimea in 10 years. you can catch up with anyone and then let them vote. the hungarians will come there, conditionally speaking, they will populate crimea and say we are voting for crimea to be part of hungary, or the same turks will come and populate crimea and then vote for crimea to be part of turkey. the last 15-20 years, at least, not like that, they arrived, landed a landing force , voted to take crimea. goodbye to such ideas , you know with such ideas. sit there in this in other capitals, well, this was the story of crimea, so here it cannot be said that what is this is a throw-in, but this is like that information that should have been discussed. now we are adding volodymyr volodymyr nazarenko,

deputy commander of the svoboda battalion, as part of the fourth brigade of the operational assignment of the national guard of ukraine, he is currently in donetsk region, namely, the hot bakhmut direction . i congratulate you, volodymyr. good evening. good evening to you, the audience. good evening, the studio, especially ukraine from you . hear good evening understanding where are you located and what is happening there i wish you the same i would like to ask about the situation uh in this direction as of the evening of this day promptly from what you know from what you know please from what can be said naturally unfortunately the situation continues to be extremely difficult for a month in fact our fighters of the armed forces of ukraine of the national guard to which the svoboda battalion in the fourth brigade belongs continue to hold the defense continues to fight like lions, and in fact the situation is extremely tense, of course it is difficult, because the enemy continues to attack our positions with meat, those rabbits, those scales, those

mercenary scoundrels who took up arms and destroyed ukrainian cities in ukraine, and this is all accompanied by the fact that the enemy leveled bakhmut with artillery, the surrounding landings of villages, fields , etc., that is, this is no longer a problem. but despite this, we learned to maintain a dynamic defense and whenever possible when detected, destroy large concentrations of enemy infantry, in principle , destroy the enemy as soon as we see him, in one way or another, and the main thing here is that war is becoming more and more the fault of technology, and in order to see the enemy, it will be necessary to use those technologies, copters, drones, which, in principle, is an opportunity to make life easier for soldiers who, every day, in these terrible weather conditions, in this rain , uh, cold rain, uh, on frosty nights, keep the

momentum going. last friday, we discussed this night battle tactic with my colleague sergey zgurts, a military expert, information that the enemy has now begun to use night raids against the positions of the armed forces of ukraine and supposedly having night vision devices there, even understanding that the ukrainians have them, of course, but they try to make such groups small and beat and almost jump into the trenches and go. battle and so on. so how dangerous is it, what kind of damage does it cause, and is there probably a countermeasure against it? please, really, really, you're right, we've basically been talking about it for a month, uh, even more, the freedom battalion is holding the defense and uh quite often, almost not every day, quite often there are battles, collisions happen, barely there, at a distance of 30 m, 50, 100

m, the enemy started not the same way as during the day, as well as in the daylight, they are the same in the dark time of the day, and it must be said frankly that the dark advice would be most of the time of the day now in the winter, the enemy is trying to use it to move forward, throw it again by running, well, white garbage is going there with muzekas, ukrainian positions are really fighting , the distance is 30 m, they provide a page of throwing grenades, barely barely out of hand hmmm , there is really a certain danger because they throw it away they attack our positions, the penalty in the penalty boxes can be said to be one-time soldiers who are simply driven to lunch but despite this, we manage to hold the defense to reveal the opposite uh-uh, i would like to note that every day everything is going to war, actually when i say this, it is a copter that shoots the enemy that

it is much easier to detect a drone from a copter on the enemy and hit it with high-precision artillery or western artillery that is provided to us by our western partners between uh, so that the ukrainian people risk their lives there in such hand-to-hand hives. and of course, i will ask about your unit, the svoboda battalion, because you definitely cannot be responsible for all the ukrainian forces that are currently under attack. i know that there are brigades and battalions, well, different ones, but tell me how many or you know how expendable today are quadcopters and those that are used to determine the enemy's position for tracking and attack copters that drop maybe some grenades or somewhere some small bomb, that is, for god's sake, the audience today, you know, we continue, we express tv channels,

our colleagues continue to collect copters for other things, and someone sometimes thinks how much can be collected. it's just that you are now at the point of the war where it is the hottest, how much is it consumables, how many of these means of action against the enemy are needed, please i i would like to answer right away, one quadcopter is alive. less than a week, because the new quadcopter is affected by weather conditions, because you don’t fly it especially in torrential rain, or if it is sunny, there is a big risk that you have everything the wind will blow it there. well, it will lose a certain orientation, and the copter is also very strongly affected by the enemy's electronic warfare equipment, it can jam it, it can try, uh, there , they also have anti-drone guns to shoot down these copters, they can also try if it they will see shoot down with small arms or any

other weapon and try to shoot down and well, the combination of factors er says that one quadcopter lives there less than a week, maybe 2-3 weeks ago, you will understand correctly, it is not the military quadcopters, which are in the majority. well, i don’t want to go into detail there because it’s wrong to go into detail. but uh, i’ll say it in principle. believe me emphatically that it is necessary to help the ukrainian army with these quadcopters , because it makes life easier. i would like to ask, do you know now, when the lights are turned off all over ukraine and people are sitting somewhere without light, somewhere it is cool because there are no means of heating, if there is no light? well, no, decentralized heating does not work. in any case, there are certain everyday inconveniences and sometimes even health risks,

but you are now where the health risks are, it's just every second here, nothing there, tell us a little about everyday life in the e . on the one hand, and on the other hand, there may be people who can join and still support and help because all these troubles are temporary. well, i am not talking about the battle now, because the battle is constantly going on there, as far as i understand, and how the soldiers experience it and experience it. how in general please live with this, well, i would like to say that well, in fact, the conditions are extremely difficult, because it is quite difficult to constantly be in such terrible weather conditions, and indeed, one war is a war, uh, when the enemy tries to storm the positions several times, there are days like this there are such cases and i will repeat, he approaches the distance at 30 m and at 50 m, and the completely different part is the struggle , let’s say, with bad demand, with bad and weather conditions, yes, because in the front trenches, in the

front positions on the front line of defense, where there are constant encounters, clashes will happen again. you can’t even melt the small pots. you can’t normally. in frosts, trench candles help a lot, there are various elementary things that can warm up frozen feet, frozen hands, it's all necessary, and hmm, in huge quantities, the same sleeping bags, the same sleeping bags, that's also because well when you hold, when a fighter holds for several days , you are there for a week or a week, he is in one or another position, and quite often it happens that there is no place to dry things, you have to constantly bring new ones, and he gave a very, very dynamic

, in fact, hmm, positions are constantly changing and points and i would not like to go into more detail about it there, but um, let's finish by saying that war is very dynamic and changes very often, they change dramatically and you have to be ready for any changes, and the soldier, er, hmm, is forced to arrange his life from scratch, quite a bit often, and in these weather conditions, it is extremely difficult in moroz, and this is all accompanied by the fact that constant shelling constantly overwhelms both sortilleries with both mortars and small arms, and in the end, again, it is repelling enemy assaults several times a day, well, at least i do i understand that there are no problems now with logistics, uh, munitions, uh, means of destruction are various, they at least fit in the position and

i would like to respond to well, to your thesis, so uh, there are almost no roads, they are all uh, dug up it's very difficult to get there because it's in the swamp, so again, however, the units that are located here are very necessary to drive with good tires in order to be able to quickly drive up and help with logistics. well, if we talk about uh well, it could be, you know, somewhere on the road, something happened, and it could be, of course, something flew somewhere and all sorts of things happen, or somewhere, you know, the engine froze and it has n’t thawed. for less than a week, the pickup truck lives on the first is the same not new pickups that are there, uh, only from the auto shop are driven quite often, some technical malfunctions occur with it in these, again, terrible conditions, but in general, the pickup lives less than a week , because it comes under fire quite often

and it - first of all, the target itself is very visible, on which the enemy directs its artillery and tries to destroy it. well, answering your questions, help is very much needed , including with logistics in each unit of the armed forces, well, at least i really have a pickup truck a car in order to bring boxes with ammunition to the position, at least it was or at least closer to the position, because we, well, you know that for sure and the audience surely understands that the box is conditionally there with changes or cartridges, it is not 2 kg and not 5 kg to drag it in such conditions, even in the cold, let's say 2 km, well, it's definitely not the best. i think a submarine is better. i want to congratulate you on the day of the ground forces of ukraine. today, i understand that you cannot go to the ground forces. well, you are the national guard of the national guards, but in any case, these are ground troops , so i congratulate you. i understand that

there was no special celebration on the front lines. well, there was a greeting from the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, and a greeting from general valery zaluzhnyi, who is the commander-in-chief who is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine well, therefore, i also convey congratulations from myself and from my colleagues, you know that the ukrainian infantry today is really admired by the world, and i would like to ask you then about what and as you see, what is the main strength of the ukrainian infantry which well, today actually, under bakhmut, it does not allow well, not only the infantry, but to a greater extent the infantry in the trenches, it does not allow the enemy to eat and surround and surround the city and occupy it as how do you do it please tell us how you do what you think is our land this is ours the motherland is our country and we understand very well that we have to defeat and destroy the offensive potential of the enemy, no matter what the conditions are , but uh, hmm, we have no other choice, and the

weather is terrible, and it's difficult, and it's scary, let's say frankly to every fighter under these crazy shelling is scary, but we understand very well that we have to go this way, we have to save as many ukrainian lives as possible, as many lives as possible of kyiv heroes in order to build further and strengthen our country after our victory , and we are driven forward by the dream of the liberation of all ukrainian lands and about our victory and we want this day to come as soon as possible and this feeling of the desire to win and the desire to destroy as soon as possible the carrion of those scoundrels in these conditions becomes as much as possible, do you know this sharp, because we are warming up, the infantry endures, the fighters endure, the heroes endure these terrible weather conditions, but they perfectly understand something every day, eh,

while we stay here, while we grind, eh, such a strong onslaught of the enemy, every day we are getting closer to the day of the ukrainian victory, i will only briefly we literally have five minutes to hold the phone. i think you're already a little tired, but i 'll let you go in 5 minutes, even less. i'll briefly say that valeriy luzhny, general and commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, said yes today congratulating the ground troops on their day , our native land, the land gives us strength and defends ukraine , it will surely win thanks to you, brothers and sisters, thank you for your service, loyalty to the oath and eternal memory to all those who died in this struggle. well, volodymyr zelenskyi, supreme commander-in-chief , president of ukraine, said so heavy bloody battles of servicemen of all components of this powerful type of the armed forces of ukraine, mechanized and tank troops, rocket artillery units and anti-aircraft units the defense is brave, they defend our native land and continue to destroy russian enemies in a coordinated and confident manner, and you have proven to the whole world that there is no

force capable of overcoming your will to victory. here i can only join in. i will finally ask. let us now listen to what volodymyr zelensky said about the conversation with by us president joseph biden, this is important because it was about military aid and then one more short question, mr. volodymyr, let's listen, i just spoke with president biden, as always objectively useful we have strong agreements, thanked for the next package of military support, discussed our further defense, the interaction of the ppp, artillery, the protection of our infrastructure, we discussed energy, the restoration of finances, we do not stop, we fight for freedom and we pass this winter, america's leadership remains unshakable, aid from the united states of america for weapons for ukraine, and i i want to ask

you, you talked about pickup trucks and a quadcopter - this is something that, in principle, our partners can help today, well, citizens from abroad also transmit ukrainians have been collecting such things throughout the war, but from the fact that we cannot buy ordinary citizens, what would be so necessary now, from the fact that you can see from the nature of the battles, what could help somewhere , maybe break the hits somewhere, give the enemy's demands stronger and silence them his dust is offensive, please , we need high technologies, we need high-precision weapons, we need artillery in large quantities, and believe me, we need an advantage in everything in order to liberate ukrainian lands, liberate and destroy them even faster and at an even greater pace the enemy needs an advantage in everything, we will fight with anything that we have in our hands, i remember the 14th year, when uh, the majority of the beating came in their

lives with their clothes, even some did not have uniforms and were destroyed by the separatists, they destroyed the enemies, they destroyed the enemy troops and in the same way , large quantities of high-precision weapons , in particular, artillery, and the same hymers and the same uh, well, armored cars, the same quadcopters , military quadcopters, military uavs, are critically needed now, and this is critically necessary, and believe me, it won’t happen any longer of this help, the sooner the ukrainian victory will be and the less and the more there will be in the lives of ukrainian heroes . brigades of the operational assignment of the national and guard of ukraine, donetsk region , bakhmac direction. it is there that volodymyr and his brothers and sisters are fighting hard battles. i gave a little

opportunity to feel the atmosphere of life in this the front line in bahmut i think that everyone who can should join in supporting our fighters quadcopter pickups can change the situation now well i will say subscribe likes and comment look for us on social networks e-e instagram facebook telegram e on youtube subscribe to our tv channel support us thank you for being with us, i will meet with you at 19:15, you will have espresso and then we will filter, we will listen to people suffering from rheumatism. but the arthritic cannot get used to it, it does not allow to move. i have tried everything. and in pharmacy i bought dolgit yellow cream, it saves me from pain in rheumatism, relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility, the only yellow cream for joint and back pain, join the

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watch a channel specially for e-e, which is specially allocated for our program, there is a survey there, and today it is like this, is russia provoking the conflict with nato three answers the first attack the second banal no and the third your option vote and the results i will first compare the intermediate somewhere in the middle of the program at the end i will compare the general results so is russia provoking a conflict with nato yes no your option well, now i am ready to say why i am in this big studio of the espresso tv channel today, and because i have a guest who came to me today, don't let me know, she is in the studio, this is hanna shelest, the director of the program of security studies of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prisma i congratulate you, well, thank you very much for visiting our studio. i'm very glad to finally be in the studio and not on skype. i'm also glad to see you. well, let's start this way. how would you answer the question that we asked in s-ska- i apologize on youtube for

our viewers, is russia provoking a conflict with nato yes no your option i think it will be my option because if we look at it from the point of view of the russian federation they believe that they are already in a conflict for nato and this is evidenced by both the official rhetoric and a bunch of prisoners soldiers who actually report well, and russian social networks that say that they will lose because they are fighting with nato and not with ukraine, ah, they cannot admit that they are losing because they have a bad army that came to ukraine for some hell, without equipment, without proper training, but so be it let them continue to fight, of course, i would not like them to fight, but since this war is already going on, let them continue to fight, we will win, and now i have a question for you . well, a more serious question. the united states of america hesitates to give ukraine long-range weapons and they talked about it, for example, the secretary of state of the united states of america, anthony blinken, yesterday or the day before yesterday, i think it was yesterday

, the coordinator of strategic communications of the security council of the white house, john kerby, said about it, he also said that we are not inciting to attack ukraine the territory of russia, that is, they are afraid of this, frankly speaking, of any kind of escalation in your opinion. well, of course, the main escalation is a nuclear one, because we see that the nuclear rhetoric is increasing and increasing in the russian federation accordingly, it is not only the americans, we spoke with the germans and the french, the main thing they are afraid of is any nuclear strike, we will not talk about a targeted or strategic attack here, but nuclear weapons are such a monster that everyone who has or does not have nuclear weapons is afraid of, but on the other hand, i it seems that the rhetoric has slowly begun to change in the united states too, let's remember the spring when we asked for high-mars, it was absolutely the same no no no no no no no no no no no even 80 km ukrainians you will be there

scan are you going to hit russia? well, then experts and diplomats and politicians worked a lot, explaining that wait, to hit russia, we can take a grenade, stand on the border and throw it on the territory of the belgorod region, this will already be a legal strike on russian territory. the question is how much effectively where and what we do is how we used high-mars and not only we demonstrated that we are not going to hit the civilian population accordingly this gave us confidence to start talking about other types weapons to give us more high-mars, that's why i think that these statements are what they are now. and we doubt yes. well, we can't agree right away. i think that they too will be able to be overcome , just a demonstration of how the ukrainian armed forces use these weapons. well but these doubts, which are now being expressed in the united states of america at such a higher level, they may be based on some intelligence data and for some reason , they still fear this, you understand, and

intelligence data, on the one hand, they are a certain factor yes, on the other hand, one way or another, there is never a guarantee that they will be complete in you, and the most important thing is always the subjective factor a, and at the moment, in principle, there is a clear understanding that a lot of decisions in moscow are made precisely because of this subjective nature "necessarily, based on the facts, will it be beneficial or worthy, good or not good for the russian federation? well, i think that there would even be or would not be considered. and as of today , the united states says that it does not see preparations for the use of nuclear weapons against ukraine or other countries, but they perfectly understand whether there is still the putin factor and this putin factor, it affects any fears quite seriously. that is, you say that they are most afraid of one and the main thing is the use of the possible use of nuclear weapons, well, at least this is my subjective opinion a look after the last two months of meetings in many ministries of defense with specialist advisers who are at the highest level and with

most other issues we somehow quickly diverged like these but from them the main question what about nuclear weapons, and from this i can conclude that it is possible at this moment, this is the biggest thing they are worried about, now they have started talking about nuclear weapons, now let's listen to what nato secretary general jenstoutenberg said this week, then i will ask you general questions, let's listen, we appeared before a test of whether freedom can fight back against an authoritarian regime, i understand those who believe that the prices of food and electricity are too high, this is a painful price that we pay in europe, but if putin wins ukraine and puts under threat to our freedom. we will have to pay a much higher price. this is flattering. and in the same interview, it was an interview with a norwegian tv channel . yesterday, he said. and in this interview, he

also said that they fear that nato has opened an open conflict. between nato troops and russia , what he just said is, after all, a warning, there is some kind of warning plan, and it seems to me that this message is directed both to the russian federation and to its own population, because at the moment for it is important for many european and american leaders to explain to their own population why they continue to support ukraine, of course there is a lot of price manipulation, and let's be honest, not every country has such a bad situation, such inflation, and not every country has this to do with russian actions, but it has become such an important element propaganda, of course, anti-ukrainian propaganda in these countries. but in fact, now really the first weapons, some small deliveries to ukraine, could be given without informing the population now it has become so global and such large sums are needed for help