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and they can get land, then they can build a house, some kind of religious building, and this religious building can even be privately owned, well, remember how many of these jokes were made by the knyps about the fact that some deputies declared temples. well, these are their private temples because they they were actually built, there is a garage. well, someone has a penthouse there, i don’t know. he has a penthouse like this. he built a monastery for himself. well, accordingly, he gave the opportunity to certain religious communities to use it, but this is his temple. well, it can be like this. the situation that you want to change. well, you have to rewrite the statute about it, please change it, and what will you do in the morning, one moment, the next - this is what is currently unfolding around the lavra, yes. a memorial is a culture, and accordingly, when it is handed over, it is necessary to conclude so-called security agreements, and if the subject does not comply with the trade protection agreements, then it is quite possible to deprive him of simply breaking this agreement, and handing it over to another subject, that is religious community or non-religious community has another
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problem that was relevant in the early 90s, but now it is less so when it is the transfer of religious buildings to religious organizations, and i emphasize not the return, but the transfer as a result of the fact that those religious buildings which for example, they belonged to, for example, the greek-catholic church, they were handed over, for example, to the moscow patriarchate well, although the moscow patriarchate has no relation to these buildings, or cult buildings that were built there by catholics in their time, yes, they are different catholic orders, they were also transferred to the crimea, for example, some orthodox religious organizations also have a problem, yes. that is, it was not restitution in the literal sense of the word, it was a transfer, yes, that is, not a return, and they may also have those problems . we have already encountered uh when it happens there conditionally almost raider yes capture when there you can hold a gathering of believers there and change the statute but the question is how to recognize well who is a believer and who is not a believer and
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do you remember, give me the story of when there, only if the believers wanted to hold an appropriate meeting and make changes, then some uh-well prepared guys came, well, yes, that is, from the appearance of racketeers and the first two dudes who got into the kingdom of heaven, because two robbers and murderers got there it also probably characterizes the danish religion. well, they used to come and, in fact, interfered with this. well, the processes are actually those people who are now. it's one thing to achieve some kind of concert, i think it's even a civil concern. i'm not talking about a political consensus, well, because as we can see, imagine what would happen if the sbu carried out such actions, for example. last year or in the 14th, it started to be carried out now there would be hysteria of various kinds, if only
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there would be hysteria there, they would nail themselves to the gates of the temple, you shouted that this is all an attack on the freedom of believers there, like that. now nothing is happening, that is, more than that. it seems to me that everyone has decided to act according to the principle of what boyka said at the beginning of the war that this is how the war goes in every organization in every community, there are its heroes and its traitors, but you cannot identify individual representatives of the community with the whole community, so i tend to think that in this context, well, until it is perceived as well, the oppression of a religious organization will be perceived exclusively as an attempt to cleanse this religious organization from the russian agents, so far. i think there will not be any of these movements, but if some try to say that, they are replacing the concept and, to be honest, even this is unpleasant to me, they cannot help but realize this,
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again, pseudo-patriotic forces that are beginning to try to replace the persecution of individual believers and individual representatives of the clergy of the moscow patriarchate from the entire organization and in this way give reasons then well, these organizations turn to international organizations to talk about what you see . by soviet law. well, here it is in our country. according to the constitution, everyone is equal before the law without regard to their religious position , ideological position, language, etc. the parishioners of the moscow patriarchate and clergy of the moscow patriarchate are also equal before the law. are they breaking the law or not, so how can they not be prosecuted, that's why i'll repeat myself when, er, there, i don't know, the abbot of some monastery is sleeping with an underage charist. well, i think it's about confession, it's more about
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pedophilia well, that is, it has something to do with it. and this can already be a criminal offense. well, when people are found in your monasteries who, for example, have been wanted for many years. well, in other words, you are essentially hiding criminals. well, accordingly, we open the criminal code of ukraine and look. well, if you have materials where you question the sovereignty of the state and the territorial integrity of ukraine. this is a crime. well, let's open the criminal code and look. well, if you have weapons, for example, there are no documents for them, well, then this is a crime, there is a crime, i don't i know because there are actually much more drugs and everything else, that is, what does this have to do with religion, well, i mean, they will put you in jail, i don't think so. well, no one forbids you to believe in god, well, i believe in god. well, why are you actually telling ? about putin or about the russian measure, this problem is really a question related to ecclesiastical matters in ukraine, but let's hope that with god's help they
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will sort it out. decided to deal with this issue and are collecting signatures for the removal of the mandates of deputies from the opposition platform for life, it is known that the initiative has already been supported by about fifty people's elected officials and this number is increasing, because the collection of signatures is still ongoing on the eve of such an idea , ukrainians supported this idea in two days on electronic petitions, more than 25,000 votes were counted, in response, the president turned to speaker stefanchuk with a request to process the proposed proposals and inform about the results. activity in ukraine of the pro-russian political party opzzh e-e we understand that taking into account the background of e-e opzh the facts of the presence of their representatives now
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in the verkhovna rada i think i will take such courage to assert my subjective opinion is perceived negatively by the absolute majority of ukrainians but still it happened that even after a full-scale invasion, these people continue to be in the verkhovna rada, your opinion . well, there is a constitution of ukraine and there is an exhaustive list of reasons for being elected by the voters the person has lost the deputy mandate, and i don’t understand it. again, it reminds me of dancing with a tambourine . it painfully reminds me of the rhetoric about the illustration of the cleansing of the government of the 2014 model, when they said that it was necessary to roughly speak to someone . and at the same time, some people did not get in under lustration, they even became presidents in a strange way, although according to all criteria they should have been under lustration, because they were also ministers in azarov's government, well, that is, basta is quite the same for me. well, you suspect that this or that person
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has committed a crime, please prosecute, please establish guilt in court, prove it. and as soon as a legal court verdict becomes effective against a person, a person necessarily loses his mandate, because this is provided for by the constitution, which will not help to solve the question is hypothetical, it is definitely possible there, i don’t know how to make changes to the constitution of ukraine. well, to be honest, i can barely imagine how it can be formulated, like the former members of this opposition platform during their lifetime they lose their mandates. well, they are like that. we are not members of his psg, because the psh is no longer there. that's all, that is, they created two deputy groups, roughly speaking. if you now say that the types of vat to the deputy are the pains of your mandate, he will say something that has to do with the psh or now there is not, or can they somehow limit access to the meeting because it is not their job to block it, or is there a legal basis for this, well, there is only one way to do it on illegal grounds,
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well, to submit a submission of the prosecutor general for consideration by the verkhovna rada of ukraine, well, what about that a person is suspected of committing a certain crime , after which, accordingly, this person can be taken into custody, for example, why didn't they go that way? well, because again, the question is for law enforcement agencies , do they have an evidence base? political expediency and the presence or absence of legal gaps. that is, understand why, if certain people have views that i do not like, it does not mean that they are criminal. that is, because no, i do not like them, but my views are also many people don't like bonfires. well, that doesn't mean that i'm there. roughly speaking, i don't know saracens or someone else there, yes, as an external administration. well, what kind of delusion did they produce there , that is, assumptions are not a basis for a trial, so i would still advise in this context, move in the direction not of these dances with a tambourine, but in the direction of
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really conducting relevant investigations , establishing relevant facts, collecting the evidence base, making relevant submissions for consideration by the verkhovna rada of ukraine, especially since we know that er, er, after zelenskyi came to power, he formed a majority, appropriate changes were made to the constitution of ukraine regarding the new limitation of this parliamentary immunity, in fact he remained yes, that is, when he says that it should be abolished, it is not true, because a special procedure for bringing to criminal responsibility people's deputies simply remained. it has become simpler and easier than it was before. but nevertheless, please, if there is evidence, submit it. it is the best way, if anything, and everything else. well, they will dubious from a legal point of view, this is one moment and another moment well, after all, what are we talking about political nuances, well, that is, what position do they now take in
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the verkhovna rada of ukraine? in principle, they move completely, well, in the mainstream of the current political position, which is professed by, well, all the political forces of ukraine, that is, they are not dissonant. that is why it is characteristic, remember how the last decisions of the verkhovna rada of ukraine were voted this week. constitutional unification constitutional more in because there really is a law, they were elected for this term and, according to the law, they have to complete this term and on the condition that they have not committed crimes that you cannot bring them to justice. the question is how to guarantee that these people re- will not be able to get into politics in the future in front of some new party project under some new banners, and this has happened many times, or are there mechanisms that will allow to guarantee that people with such backgrounds will not get into politics so that it again, it was not discriminatory towards these people, well, again, exclusively in the same case that i said, bring to
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criminal responsibility, prove the guilt . well, how and on what grounds can you deprive a person in this aspect, yes, that is, there is an active passive electoral right, that is, the right to be elected, passive electoral right, on what grounds do you forbid a person to be elected, well, there is a law of ukraine. where is it written, on what grounds can we deprive people of not being elected, that is, if it is recognized there capable of acting there, or what is the term if it takes place there, the punishment, that is, of course, there is a whole series well, the same applies to the active right to vote, who can vote, who cannot vote, if there are no such grounds, then it is necessary to make changes to the current legislation accordingly . but again, it seems to me that it will be problematic enough, this is one aspect and the second aspect, i still tend to think that the electoral field has simply changed, that is, i don't think that all these pro-russian slogans that used to be relevant and they will find their voter, but the drift can
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take place in the social rhetoric, if you look again at the boyka given above, then the whole agenda is social rhetoric, well , that is, limit prices for products, basic necessities, to provide for everyone there i don't know who needs, accordingly, some kind of provision there for electricity, don't raise the prices of tariffs, that is, once again, there is an exclusive social policy, again, no departures, conditionally speaking, uh, how, as they said before, yes, that is, well, there is a nuance, but with on the other hand, again, this is now, because we are all in a certain state of exaltation. well, when the war ends, this level may change as a result. and frankly speaking, i have certain fears that a lot of the rhetoric that was associated with pro-russian forces in the again, the public discussion will return, but
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already the performance of those political forces, which it will be difficult to name, so that they are pro-russian. yes , i think you have already seen the video of these, well, some military personnel when they speak. that is, it turns out that when i am at the front, i can speak in russian, but you can't in lviv. well, come to our audio store and speak in ukrainian. well, you understand, that is, how much this rhetoric changes. well, the same can apply to many other aspects, and that's why it's worth thinking about today. it seems to me that so far everyone seems to have some lifelong consensus in institutional matters. and i seriously fear that after the war, many of those issues that were very painful for society will return and return in completely different ways. political forces that it will be difficult to reproach with their pro-russianness yes, because when the veterans come to the game and they will say that we shed blood there and we want to have a second state language well, i do not
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rule out such a scenario that it would happen, but well, as a political scientist, that is, as a person who is engaged in political analysis, i do not rule out that this can be pro-russian. it is not about the need to be friends with russia, it is more about the division of ukraine. it is clearly speculation. this is definitely and there is one more nuance that uh, it will change because, well, this whole agenda he will not be pro-russian of this nature, you know, of this nature of pro-russianness. that is, it will relate exclusively to the internal political discussion, that is, if earlier we perceived it as er, well, in kyiv, relatively speaking, destructive er influences that were deliberately introduced by russia in order to to sow discord in ukrainian society, i think that today it can already have the name of news in nature. there, the verkhovna rada, by the way, passed this law on national cars. to be honest, i have not read it, but it is very interesting, i think, too get acquainted with it well, in fact, again, what
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will the law on elections be? well, when will it take place, too, the nuances of everything. fighters, that's how he knows what kind of person this is. so where was she, in which party, what did she do, what did she say and what actions did she take? and she doesn't want to vote for her yes, but everyone goes according to the party list and roughly speaking, for example, in the first five. well, i don't vote for this party. electoral model with open lists well, that is, you can vote separately for the party and vote separately for the members of this party and rank them accordingly in the list. that is, this is like one option. well, moreover, it is necessary to understand that the party leadership will also be aware that we are taking risks and taking a list of some toxic figures is, well, by the way, it used to be the same in the discussion, more precisely, a dilemma about how
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to find a resource candidate and a non-toxic one at the same time, because all resources are toxic at the same time. well, because you have resources, then somehow they appeared to you. well, how can they appear to you? it's clear, er, there is an idea, that's why i'm looking for those who were as much as possible. well, you know how there is supply and demand, yes, that is, to find such a point of balance when there is a maximum er resourceful and minimally toxic. well, it will be resolved in the same way. but again, what kind of passage barrier will there be? well, there is such a phenomenon as jeremy idering. that is, it is like the districts, for example , divide. well, we understand that now a large part of the residents where was the electoral base of certain political forces, well, due to objective reasons, because there are destroyed cities. they came to the interior of the country, that is, they went either to the central regions of ukraine or , in general, to the western regions of ukraine. well, it is clear that they will already dissolve there. that is, we will not see it at the next elections in such regions,
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i don't know where some political party openly prevails. well, that's an exception. i don't know except for zelensky, because if you ask for the 19th year, well, the whole map was green, but if you look, for example, at the electoral map of local elections, well, we saw that in some places the local project dominated there, but i tend to think that in connection with this large migration of voters, this situation will also change because of that, but you know, well, this is a matter of the future . there will be elections, how they will be held and who will win, and to think about how to preserve the state and that it was, in principle, necessary to talk about the elections because the representatives of the ukrainian government have already spoken about the elections, in particular about the fact that after the end of the war it will take time before new elections are held in ukraine, first vice-speaker of the parliament oleksandr kornienko told about this in an interview with rbc-ukraine. donetsk, luhansk, crimea, it is necessary to
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find out which country there are citizens of, to carry out appropriate verification measures. and as for the territory that was recently occupied, such as the kherson region, it is possible to carry out national elections in relation to local elections, i would work on the legislation to ensure the protection of the world defenders, of which there are many, but not all of them can fall under the influence of the sbu, oleksandr kornienko, the first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada, mr. valentina, the current or what short period is necessary in order to hold elections, the e- is such a period four to five months, what do you think? in general, how long will it take to launch the election process? vacate the territory for a start, and depending on how it will happen, i think it is possible to answer your question, how long will it take for us to hold elections
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there? the armed forces of ukraine, well, accordingly, the local administrations will go there, that is, a sufficiently large number of people who are again connected with law enforcement activities, a large part of the collaborators of outright criminals, they will all flee. well, they or they will run away or they will be liquidated, or they will be accordingly. that is, it will be repainted, someone will be repainted, er, someone er, relatively speaking, it will be possible to hide somewhere there well, but we will understand that it is insignificant. that is, it will not be statistically even significant and elements from the point of view of moral ethics, definitely everyone should be brought to justice well, but from the point of view of reality, i do not rule out that it will take a certain amount of time in order to identify all the persons and bring them to justice as nazi criminals, i will still catch these grandfathers who have been there for about 100 years and what is this all
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about? i am leading to the fact that what are the problems? well, there will already be military units, military units have the right to vote and they will vote there. here you go. as a matter of fact, the answer to your question is a military serviceman. take place in two directions, on the one hand - the civilian population will move from the war zone to the center and west, on the other hand, a large part of the armed forces of the country's security service of ukraine, law enforcement officers, tax officials that is, those who ensure the functioning of the state, they will come to the liberated territories there to organize, well, social, political, social, economic processes and being, they will vote against because they returned, they did not think so quickly, but i am more skeptical in this regard. well, someone will return. someone will not where to turn, this is also a very important point and again even the lists of voters well, yes, that is, what kornienko says, that is, he simply did not pay
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attention to this aspect, but he is worth it, that is, who is alive, who is not who is alive, who is not, some are, well, a large part is abroad, how long will it take for these people to return from abroad? well , i will repeat that it is not because they want to or not . there is no place for the residents of mariupol to return to, bahmut bahmut, well, avde well, i can name a lot of settlements , well, which essentially ceased to exist as infra integral infrastructure objects, where should they go, that is, it is clear that most likely there if they will hold this vote, well , most likely it will be the votes of those who will carry out the functions of security and public administration there, so i would not be afraid that there we might see some kind of electoral rematch or not, there is no reason for that, i am weak to myself i can imagine how it could happen, another important decision of the verkhovna rada this week i want to discuss
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the president signed the law on the liquidation of the district administrative court of kyiv and the day before the documents were just approved by the people's deputies for now will create a new instance, the kyiv city district administrative court, i would like to point out that the oask has repeatedly been marked by scandalous decisions, and its head has been under the sanctions of the united states of america since december 9. i signed the law passed by the verkhovna rada on the liquidation of the oases of the kyiv district administrative court. this story has ended. and the history of reforms continues , continues even during such a war, mr. valentina, in 2021, it seems that the bill on the liquidation of the usk was submitted to the parliament until consideration, but for some reason it was dragged on, and only after the united states of america imposed sanctions on the wolf, did the process become more active, why are we
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looking at what the situation really is, here i am, a representative of a non-governmental organization, the word business , he remembers very well that one of the main tasks for 2022 year zelenskyy called the reform of the judicial branch vlad understood that this was all before february 24 and this full-scale invasion definitely made its corrections in the priority of tasks and promises, which are the relevant laws, yes about the higher do you remember the qualification commission of the suuds, there was also such a discussion, uh, well, many spears were broken, well , there was a story with the constitutional court, a stupid spaniard, and yes, a judge who is also from landau and somewhere there, he is currently outside the reach of ukrainian justice, so far, but i am sure that he in this e-e zone of reach will fall and will be attracted and will be responsible for all this, therefore, i tend to think that this decision is simply a continuation of the president's policy aimed
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at reforming the judicial branch of power. that is, it is not it is worth looking at, as you know, how some elements separately snatched away some elements and focused attention on it, here it should be considered as a holistic effort of the president of ukraine and, accordingly, with the support of the monomajority. by the way, the rest of the factions voted more than the constitutional majority for the liquidation of this it will be very difficult for such a court to create a new volume here, then again, it is not the most patriotic among the patriotic to say that the president has grouped the judicial branch of power, although again, if this happened before february 24, i somehow cannot help but think that we would now hear this whining about what this is usurpation, i somehow don't know there that the presidents are destroying the independence of the judges and now all this is happening, that's why zelensky correctly said that war is not a reason to postpone reforms, war on the contrary - this is a time when reforms can be carried out
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without the need to overcome purely political-technological opposition, i emphasize political-technological because there are so many of these positions . look, we are against this government, this government are bad guys, they are good. well, that's why today this rhetoric is irrelevant. and this is exactly what allows us to approve such important decisions, well, without the need to overcome this unproductive, i would even say destructive political-technological opposition, i emphasize, the reaction of the district administrative court appeared which has already been liquidated, a lot of lyrics were written on the institution's website, i chose the most important phrase, such a decision does not comply with the provisions of the constitution of ukraine in view of the you did not argue for such a position why they believe that this decision violates the constitution of ukraine but nevertheless, what do you think or can we consider that this story has ended or will it have some more continuations, that's all i think that it is finished and i think that this is just an attempt to
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preserve a good image for a bad game there was no need to react in any way well, it is unlikely that the employees of this court could say that we are sincerely happy and welcome such a decision that we are really terrible corruptors and scoundrels and our conscience is tormenting us now and thank you very much that finally you well, now we have to get rid of this burden of corruption. well, it could not happen. well, in addition, we must understand that a new body will be created anyway. i am practically sure that many people who worked in the old one can get there. the appropriate procedures will come already in accordance with what i asked. in particular, i am talking about this higher qualification commission of judges and the second. to be honest, i forgot what it is called, do you remember the one about the role of international experts, the supreme council of justice , that is, when it came to that, he persuaded the decisive
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international experts will have a vote or not, that is , that is really all. well, i am, this is an inevitable process , in fact, that is all. well, and stupid with his hysterics around the constitutional court, i understand that i have a lot of friends who are lawyers. well, they have a different assessment than i do as a political scientist, because they they look from the point of view of the letter of food. i look from the point of view of development and systems, so i think that in fact the judicial system that existed in ukraine is doomed, like the whole system that existed until february 24, it all died. our colleagues maria skyba and maksym sikora will continue. take care, love ukraine. see you soon. we studied for a long time to become who we are. we improved our skills and when the time came we
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stood up to defend our country. we use our knowledge and skills to confront the enemy to bring our victory closer . and return to our work. we want to build and create, fix and construct, but we are ready for resistance if you ask me who i am, for sure, ordinary studies, everything is supposedly not bad, only this is a curse of
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habits, i was late, what else anu sports, as he says the coach from me will be people, competitions, trips, there are those whom i love, whom i cherish, the people for whom i am , the army, the rules of a warm country, healthy care.

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