the country has had a conflict with ukraine for several years, it can be considered as a long-term conflict, well, this will mean only one thing that the war will go to exhaustion and that we need to be absolutely sure that the defense industries of our partner countries, as well as our own, are working properly, and we will be sure that our people are motivated to continue to defend their land, and there, as they say, let it be. what will happen next, colleagues from radio svoboda, the broadcast of the resolution, which provides for the exclusion of russia and betrayal of the un security council, is being picked up. in particular, the resolution states that russia has flagrantly violated the un charter, among these flagrant violations there is mention of an attempt to illegally annex part of the territory of ukraine, crimes against the civilian population, nuclear threats and other actions that call into question russia's right to permanent membership in the

red security forces. was removed from the security council, although there are still doubts about the implementation of such an idea, the o statute does not contain any provisions on the removal of a permanent member of the security council, and here it is worth noting that in the statute does not provide for the possibility of depriving a country of its permanent membership, so the exclusion of any country from the un requires the consent of two-thirds of the members of the un general assembly and the unanimous approval of this decision by the council and the security council . moods in congresses at the white house, where the issue of limiting russia's influence in the un is being discussed oleksandr matsuka, ukrainian diplomat , head of the secretariat of the un security council 2009 and the 16th year, joins in. good evening. do you assess the actual implementation of

this resolution, which was submitted to the congress today, how realistic do you think it is to be implemented ? two members of the congress decided to introduce such a resolution, that is, it has not yet been approved by the machine. it has not even been put to a vote for me. i like the idea itself, of course, but there are questions, and the fact that i saw the entire text. of course, i did not see it, but what the press reports in the e-e press is that it is actually proposed to consult the allies regarding possible steps that could lead to the exclusion of russia from the e-e security council, and you

absolutely correctly said that there is no e-e there is no mechanism that would provide for the exclusion er, one of the members of the rabze from this body. therefore, er, it will be necessary to think for a very long time about how to do it, but if such a resolution was introduced, let's say a year ago, then everyone said that it was his property in general, what was it about, that is, before that you didn't take it seriously either i probably didn't pay attention to such a projector. now we take it seriously, because many things that once seemed incredible are now becoming reality , moreover, i'll tell you such a thing today just coincided so that uh- ekosor economic and social council e-e oun excluded iran from the commission on e-e women's rights why is it interesting because in the statute i e-e it is

not written that e-e elected member of e-e this or that body of e-e un can and to exclude about the commission i myself once worked in the commission e-e po the status of women, so i know that such a procedure did not exist, but they did not gather here, they gathered as bailiffs and excluded a country that was not previously elected to this commission . there are no procedures for excluding a country from the rnbbez, it is possible to go another way, because actually this resolution was submitted to the american congress.

the security council and, er, block the decision of the un security council, er, this can be done, er, without excluding it. well, it is not necessary to focus on the exclusion of russia from the security council, but simply set its voting rights correctly . no, exclude it from the un, and then automatically, because there is a procedure here. if we exclude russia, then of course it ceases to be a member. when a country was excluded from the un, there is no question .

the consent of the security council, then two members of the security council, the united states and the united kingdom blocked the decision to exclude south africa from sight. then they went the other way, they simply did not recognize the mandate of the south african delegation on earth . after that, already by a procedural decision, this decision on non-recognition of powers was extended for 20 years until the party regime collapsed and thus africa could not take participation in any of the bodies, why am i talking about this again, because again, we have a precedent

literally a few days ago, a little bit. subregional organization , and it was there at the last meeting that the powers of the russian delegation were unrecognized in this body, and it was simply asked to leave the hall , that is, a precedent is being created when when really it is possible not to recognize the authorized representative of the declaration or it is precisely because it violates all existing rules and to say i'm sorry, leave eh. i remembered that i read the news the other day where russian diplomats were flaunting the fact that they continue to pay contributions to the un properly, and i thought, is it possible to do this that the banks through which they pay these contributions should be under sanctions to deprive them of paying contributions from thus

, due to the lack of contributions, exclude the zone there it does not solve the problem because if the country does not pay its contributions it cannot vote in the general assemblies on the security council there nothing is said yes it is possible to play and in this way that but this is uh there it takes away often because there they have to accumulate p certain er debt well that is to me i am interested i am interested in your proposal er this is also possible it is possible to use i want to say one thing er you know very often we talk about er russia er illegally occupies a place in the security council, so it is not wrong all of us joined the

united nations through the procedures. so let's say our prospectus never forgets to remind the russians that they are sitting there illegally, that's all very well, but there is one small nuance here, and i just want to emphasize it. the point is that if we talk about the fact that russia illegally occupies the place of the soviet union, the organization of the united nations or the security council, we bring it to the legal level, that's why we start talking about how long the law was and so on, that's not the point, we don't say no no no it's not because they're sitting there illegally , it's because they violated everything that can be violated, all the principles and rules of organization 19 , they should be kicked out, not because they got into this car without a ticket it is necessary to chase them because they are er-e brawling, if that is translated into this

, that is, it should be about the exclusion of er-e country from the organization of poor nations because it violates the un charter and violates the principles on which this charter is based, here is another question it concerns the creation of an international tribunal is known that now the united states is studying how to create an international tribunal through the un security council. i understand that this is an unrealistic task as long as russia is in the un security council. well, for that, there is now an emergency session of the 11th emergency session of the general assembly and if such a decision is adopted by two-thirds of the votes of the members of the organization, it will be adopted. that is, it interrupts any cycle of the security council, that is, if there is a decision to create such a tribunal, this

decision will be visible and can be brought to the security council of course, russia will be blocked. and after it is blocked by one of the members of the red security service, it can be brought to the e-e. this very decision can be brought to the e-e extraordinary session that works, it is not closed . well, if two-thirds of the votes are found, it will be created that's tribuna. i think we'll get there and they won't get anywhere. it's not for nothing that they play so often, they are mentioned in moscow, they understand that whether they go there early or late, they get there when they eat. thank you very much oleksandr matsuka, ukrainian diplomat, head of the council secretariat un security 2009 2016 we talked about the prospects of russia's exclusion from the zones and the un security council, thank you very much baltic countries poland blocked the adoption of a new package of sanctions by the european union because some countries offered to soften this package of sanctions under the pretext

of ensuring food exports, in particular , the minister of foreign affairs said about this today of lithuanian affairs gabrie luslanberg, the leaders of the european union gathered in brussels for the last time this year , they are discussing further political, military, humanitarian financial assistance for ukraine, as well as how to help in the restoration of the critical infrastructure of the country destroyed by russian strikes zoryana stepanenko, a correspondent of radio svoboda, followed this meeting throughout the day, she joins our broadcast zoryana good evening to you, the word is good evening, see you again. to conclude and on a note of correspondence that the european friendly family is united around supporting ukraine and that they will continue to jointly oppose russia on the political front and economic, but this clear as expected political weather at night was spoiled by a thunderstorm, or rather

, a threat that hung over the macrofinance for ukraine, at least at night, a number of journalists of the brussels media corpus learned about this from their own sources, in particular, and also to us, 18 billion euros of loans that were going to be provided to ukraine over the next year were blocked and not by hungary, which relatively recently removed its veto, but by poland, which is friendly to ukraine, a rational reason why ukraine should not get it right now, i ask you to show leadership, the one who will be the first to provide modern tanks will open up this possibility of supply to the whole world and will be remembered as one of the most important defenders of freedom in our time. this is a direct saving of millions of lives. well , i will continue my opinion about poland, which

accordingly blocked the ukrainian macro-finance, so it is important here that the matter for poland is not in ukraine. warsaw is still advocating large-scale support for a neighboring state and the most ambitious possible anti-russian sanctions, simply the decision about this ukrainian macro-finance ended up in one bag, so to speak, with three others unrelated to ukraine, one of them, namely the implementation of the global minimum tax rate, was blocked by poland, and the rest of the decisions were held hostage diplomats are familiar with the progress of the negotiations on the condition of anonymity and told me that the ukrainian macrofin has already released the package to which the provision of 18 billion euros was unblocked and this is literally fresh news from wheels well, in general, colleagues, ukraine is in principle the center of attention of all offline meetings of eu leaders since the beginning of the staff war, the next six months will be decisive in it - volodymyr zelenskyi said this while addressing a colleague from the european union today via video, so ukraine needs to add

from partners and even more efforts efforts that will help ukrainians to survive the winter and weapons that will accordingly help stop russia in this context, zelensky mentioned anti-aircraft defense as well as more long-range artillery and modern tanks, have you heard? in what words did zelenskyy call on european partners to provide these modern tanks? he said that this would directly save millions of lives. well, regarding the energy assistance package, the ukrainian president spoke about the fact that it is in the interests of the europeans, as well as actually helping ukrainians in this direction, because it depends on it. will the ukrainians stay at home or, accordingly, will they seek refuge in the european union on its territory, that is, as i already said, the negotiations of the leaders are still ongoing well but we have already been able to familiarize ourselves with the draft of their joint declaration, which is being prepared based on the results of the summit, and in it the eu leaders welcome the bloc's efforts to increase pressure on russia, in particular with the ninth package of sanctions, but

it has not yet been approved and among those who are slowing down the process , poland is again the baltic countries are also in this company not because they want to throw something out of there. as you know, on the contrary, they always advocate the most ambitious restrictions against the russian federation, they consider this ninth package weak, the discussions of diplomats in the fields the summit around this continues at this very moment and the mention of ukraine's 18 billion macro-finances in the draft declaration that we saw is also mentioned there , the leaders want to mention more precisely because at the end of the day they sign this declaration when it is finished, accordingly, they themselves mention it in the document about responsibility that those guilty of war crimes committed in ukraine should be punished, in particular, for the crime of aggression, the creation of a special tribunal for these needs is not mentioned. well, but this declaration, of course. it can still change, since at least several versions last time we saw her actually. thank you very much zoryana

stepanenko live live from brussels, she tuned in to us. thank you zoryana. well, i remind you that svoboda life is broadcast live on the espresso tv channel and also on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and on youtube. if you watch us on the internet, be please subscribe to the page, like it. this way you will support our work. well, in general, independent journalism. well, further on in the program, russian president vladimir putin canceled two of the most important two annual events at once the final press conference and the message to the federal assembly are cited among the reasons as the fear of ukrainian sabotage and the lack of positive news. what kind of news is putin waiting for? what kind of sabotage does he fear from the fugitive president viktor yanukovych? mps of the banned opz, how can this story end, let's talk soon in

russia, there was an explosion at the largest oil refinery in eastern siberia, angarsk after which the fire started, as reported by the journalists of the siberia project. the reality was that the earthquake was so powerful that it was recorded by seismographs. as a result of the fire in the territory, two people died and five more were injured. the governor of the irkutsk region reported this in particular. this oil refinery is the main supplier of fuel in the buryat region. and the trans-baikal region, it produces gasoline, in particular, for cars, diesel fuel and fuel for jet engines , recently in russia, let me remind you almost every day there are also explosions and large fires at various objects, we will remind you what and where there was a fire and an explosion. during the last time, the

bardakuska airport on december 6, 2019,

the construction of a suburban park 902, a newly constructed structure is on fire as a result of a

night flight. this is what he turned over, i don't know what kind of technique a tank is, not a tank, this is such crap, but not far from our dining room, here is the barracks that suffered, so there is no positive news, russian president vladimir putin canceled the two most important at once speeches, which are called a major genre in the kremlin, well , first of all, it is the annual final press conference of the president and his message to the federal

assembly . for an indefinite period, i note that , for example, the message of the russian president to the federal meetings of the state duma and the federation council is not just an annual mandatory speech, it is even enshrined in the constitution as the american institute for the study of war in its current report , one of the reasons why putin refused to speak before the federal assembly is, in particular, the lack of a positive agenda, as the moscow time writes with reference to sources in the kremlin and the russian government until november. in the administration putin were sure that both the press conference and the messages of the federal assembly would take place, they were actively preparing for these events, but at the beginning of december, the kremlin came to the conclusion that the information field for large genres consists of extremely unfavorable, this is a retreat from kherson, explosions on the crimean bridge, an attack by drones on the sevastopol fleet and, in addition, strikes on russian strategic aviation airfields, as

the moscow time writes, the kremlin was most stunned by this news, at the same time it became obvious that the president's big press conference was sooner after all, there will not be, in particular, allegedly due to fears that a new so -called sabotage may be carried out on the eve of the event, which will affect the plans of the country, what sabotages may putin be afraid of and what in the end they hope that the kremlin will join the broadcast and political scientist andrii piankovskyi good evening andrey andreevich good evening please, i don't understand personally and what is putin afraid of when he canceled the press conference right there? er, place them in some kind of bunker and everything will be conducted and shown to the people. and what are the organizers of the press conference so afraid of now? it was the first time in 30 years that you saw this man

drunk, we remember, of course, all of ukraine, i watched it all, well, where is he with a glass of champagne, a bitch, in his pockets, uh, i’m walking around, he talked about how he notices, we destroy the infrastructure of ukraine, this is already an indicator of the monstrous stress, the portrait of which there is a selection of materials for this, there was a lot of talk about those who did not hit the front, but there was simply a complete lack of positive positive messages, eh, and even here i noticed, remember, this is the result of prepared by mothers. there are absolutely distinguished godmothers. remember one woman who told how an oceanic son jumped out of a trench in the 16th or 19th year with a cry , his brother pressed dill, so they showed only a few

moments . to this old man with horror, he said wonderful things to them, this is the same mother. he said that you are very lucky . the guys that he handed out were in formal uniforms, like the young men that he handed out, what kind of medals were there , they also looked strangely at this strange uncle, nobody on the team, pyanenko is not yet drunk . who can guarantee that not yet at this time? he will not be blocked and he, well, it is impossible to show him in such a state of the people, and that is why they made such a decision. well, look, and

journalists also write, and analysts and journalists, that the kremlin was very shocked by the fact that it turns out that russian air bases can become target. how do you think these attacks on the airbase and the airfield have such a shocking and repulsive effect, because before that the war was somewhere in ukraine or, in extreme cases, somewhere in the border areas, and here it turns out to be deep in the rear. in the kremlin , are they really afraid of some kind of sabotage that might happen right there during some press conference or some other envoy ? we are complete absence some positive news and fear for the behavior of putin, and as for the nine, but this is not a sabotage, this is a war, this is a war, it is better to call it that when they destroy the ukrainian fleet, this is a

military action. planes fly out, not washington bombs, as you plan 10 flights, kiev, it's called sabotage and but it will increase, uh, even on propaganda channels, military experts who sometimes express their professional opinion there are the same we are often distant in ukraine. that is why he said that what do you think? in general, everything is quite bare before the increasing attacks of the ukrainian harvest forces, and the ukrainians have already spat on the

americans , who are better than nothing. the old soviet system is sharp and capable of carrying blows. well, while they were all over the european part, the russians all around say that putin is afraid to come out of his bunker, and against this background, this last trip, allegedly putin's trip across the crimean bridge with one sides here he is so afraid of everything, and on the other side he drives straight to the krymsky bridge . do you have any opinions about this ? in the mirror of the car, the physio number is similar to putin's. well, you know it's no secret that such those who look like putin, mmm, well, at

least there is always an ego, there is no one, each of them even has his own nickname, one calls it a banquet, the other frowns , and so on. modern er policies are accepted even er sometimes in western societies but here we have more details er well this is special literature that's why it exists on the internet well here now he demonstrated the ear in different putins a completely different shape of the ear and no chess game

the outgoing one means once the famous formula is not dead, and we don’t have a question. i understood it and it was nuclear blackmail. yes, he answered very harshly. well, if you try it, then nato will launch a night strike against the russian group in ukraine, and you personally they just hit him with slowness in the direct text, they already told him, and here he is, he doesn't even have enough courage, emperor nicholas i, who lost in the second crimean war, well, in fact, we ended up with a murder, he got sick, the trial got sick, you got sick, i refused, eh, it's being treated, or would it be something else entirely example, the same finished mirzovets, he is now there, and you can use murder