twenty years of rule - this was a man. a centaur with a naked torso on a horse, he also flew with cranes. by the way, i heard the word crane for the first time then i understood why, because there were 20 of them left there, and they are already a dying species of amphora was found under water, that is, he was a hero, he was a favorite of the people, but today, what a degradation happened to this personality, uh, the most respected publications in the world recognized him as the loser of the year. the whole thing is a collapse, so to speak, if you use a popular russian buzzword, a negative attack, so from 'capacitive negative gdp growth and so on, this is a negative evolution of this person, so that we can somehow summarize and finish this . your opinion is that we should completely sever ties with this country, it is absolutely a question, but diplomacy is a very delicate thing. believe me,

belarus has not officially announced we don't have a special operation or a war, the fact is that they are actually helping our enemy, and that's true. so they gave their territory, and there are airports and so on, but with such success, we can lower the level of the diplomatic bag and hungary, which actually blocks everything possible at the international level and by other countries that are actually supporters of russia of course it is possible and it should be done perhaps i agree with you, mr. russia, but for that we have the verkhovna rada, there is a committee on foreign affairs, so there are such committees, he should certainly propose and the ministry legislates the matter to act in a different way of course diplomats diplomats are not free people they fulfill the will of the state and they serve the state first and foremost as far as the state is concerned and accordingly a decision has probably been made that it is not necessary to completely sever relations, to leave some

bridges, because the belarusians themselves are hard-working, they are not our enemies. well, it is possible that some percentage of the belarusian people themselves are not at war with us, that is the truth, as the russian people are at war with us. what about president lukashenko? well, he is also playing. we are too. we understand. we are also afraid that he is a hostage. i do not justify him, of course, but i have hostages and he. why did the minister of foreign affairs of belarus go to a concert in kobzon, and because he probably, i don’t know, was not present, but he probably led some negotiations regarding lukashenka with our other western partners and that is why he did not become because somewhere he was dedicated to his stay on this land and probably ours also works in this in different directions . we didn't get that blow from the belarusians from the russians, we certainly get it, i think what the minister of defense is actually saying and

the commander-in-chief of the risk is right, er, zaluzzhya is right in saying that we can expect a blow from belarus, but not from the belarusians, i don't believe much that we ourselves belarus, the belarusian army will fight with us well , with the exception of some volunteers there, it is possible, but russia, not so, the russians can strike at kyiv again, at kyiv, i don't think they need volyn, they are there, as mr. captain says, everything is prepared for meetings as our deputy mayor koval said, they are preparing and waiting for her. it is certainly possible. of course , our diplomatic services need to step up today. this is clear, and our diplomats in the world need to step up where we have friends. where we have good partners, we are definitely looking for all this, not only at the current level. we need to create more joint joint enterprises, joint, i don't know, joint, different institutions, joint , unfortunately, the truth is not being done to the end today . where is it working well where is it not

working very well well, this is the truth of life, this is the truth of life. but for that, there is someone in the state. i think that i fully support what the ministry of foreign affairs is doing today. but first of all, not every solution exists, there are no perfect people yet, every solution of which is perfect, that's why there is a discussion, that's why there is a debate, to explain something and say something. and secondly, well, i'm sorry for calling a spade a spade. death comes and flies every day, we don't talk about belarusians exactly. in our country, just a word communicates with the people of belarus and with the lukashenka regime, which is simply killing us. to be honest, i don't know a single example in modern history that a country was attacked from the territory of another country and sat there the ambassador is a kind of complete precedent and an argument that there are other sitters in minsk. by the way , the us ambassador has not been sitting there for a long time. the eu ambassador has also moved there, but he is also

sitting in moscow. now they have approved the new us ambassador in moscow, so what does it say there? the fact is that russia doesn't kill even in texas. what's up? but in ukraine , they kill in belarus too. well, that's why i'm for it. all these games are very interesting . you said the president lukashenko i don't think we should call him that, it's a usurper, the gauleiter of belarus can call him whatever he wants, no one chose it. we were also silent, thinking about whether to name it or not . -resht irpin but what else do we need? i just don't know what we need to wait for so that we can simply say that evil is evil and that if they attacked from there, then diplomatic relations must be broken. absolutely. next, you are right to say things, but i found

out in the parliament that you are a people's deputy. we raise them. you are a law-making body, so that you can raise these issues. i say once again that diplomats are executors . they carry out the will of the verkhovna rada and the will of the president at the words of mr. vasyl about what is the verkhovna rada is the committees of the verkhovna rada, i caught oleksiy and i absolutely not conspiring in unison, we didn't even smile, so we smirked , why? self-governance through the adoption of an absolutely incomprehensible selection of powers in territorial communities, well, in fact, such a bold question mark is put on the formation of the constitutional court, so when you say that there is a verkhovna rada, give the servants of the people and opzzh,

today it is not what will determine the strategy of the ukrainian state, but belarus we must look at everything with very, very sober eyes. what does lukashenko want? the most important thing is to sit in this chair, to sit on this throne, because the head of the collective farm must lead something, because if he does not lead, then what kind of head will he be? because he was afraid of losing power. i would like the ukrainian leadership to return to the strategy that was developed in ukraine in the 15th and 16th years, an absolutely effective strategy for dealing with

belarus, and i think that due to the leakage of information and lukashenko talked about this strategy of defense behavior, what it gave. it gave ukraine the opportunity to talk with belarus in a completely, completely different way. unfortunately, it does not apply, or fortunately , it does not apply . i understand that if someone ever looks for it, they will find the remaining funds there, we shouted at the top of our voices, don't do this, because belarus with lukashenka will be against ukraine, let's go don't get on lukashenko's atomic hook, then nobody heard us. today, unfortunately, we got what we got, so i would appeal to the ukrainian leadership to read the strategy that was developed in 15-16 years, it is effective and i am

convinced that lukashenko, knowing it, did not take a single step to attack to ukraine because he will lose power. i don't mean that today he allows his territory to be attacked by missiles. this is obviously about the fact that you will cross the border directly by russian belarusian troops , this was done and lukashenko received it, but let's go back to the hostage, you know, today someone in this studio doubts that everyone knows absolutely about all the movements of the troops. well, in fact, from space today there is no problem to track who is regrouping where, and at the moment there is just a very simple question. and what will be the next information campaign in ukraine? that not only the interview of the hostage, today we have the statements of the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, we have the statement

of the head of the office or the adviser of the president's office on yes, we have the statements of other persons who represent state, what should we understand? we should understand that in the 22nd year, ukraine passed several such large information companies' first information campaign - it was january-february of the 22nd year, that we don't remember what we were told, we were told that there would be no war no one will get into anything, please cook kebabs and everything will be fine when all around everyone said there will be a war tomorrow there will be a war how will it all end i would very much like that sooner or later those who gave the opportunity to demine chongar those who did not build fortifications on the north of ukraine answered for that and for this information campaign that was unleashed a second information company that was unleashed if not

today after lunch then tomorrow morning we will lead on red square in moscow there was such an information company there was such an information company what is this for information company led to the fact that we turned out to be completely unprepared for entering the winter of 22-23 years, because how could we buy generators and ask for help in the energy sector in the evening if we are tomorrow already after lunch were supposed to defeat russia completely and utterly. again, this information company was extremely threatening with great negative consequences for our country. i do not know what today's information company is leading to, because i hear from the mouths of high-ranking officials that in january and february next year, russia will prepare a big offensive

if this is an information campaign so that we no longer deceive each other and i am ready somewhere for the fact that war can knock again. even harder than it is knocking on ukrainian doors today, this is one story if this information campaign is that tomorrow we will have even greater aggression than the one that started on february 24, and that is why we have to go to negotiations, forgive me, but this can also be a very dangerous information campaign, which should explain why the ukrainian authorities will sit down at the negotiating table with a muscovite, dear friends, i am convinced that since the military at the end of february and the beginning of march, due to their position, they did not give the opportunity to conclude any conditions with the aggressor that are absolutely unfavorable for ukraine, as well as the ukrainian today, the military defends and defends ukraine

, and today the ukrainian military gives a very clear signal that we will fight and it is our business to support absolutely everyone. today, the ukrainian military does not give the society any chance to panic, they did not give the society any chance to revise the basic postulates that were formed at the beginning of the war. end with the complete de-occupation of ukraine, the war must end with ukraine's accession to the european union, the war must end with ukraine's accession to nato, and in this context, we must talk with our western allies, and in this context we must prepare ukrainian society, these are very important messages, if someone today wants to launch an information campaign to intimidate ukrainians and, against the background of intimidation about even greater aggression, to go to talks with the occupier, it is very , very dangerous, and i i would not advise anyone to

develop such a strategy in ukraine today, our strategy is a strategy for de-occupation and a strategy for victory, and in this strategy we must secure the full support of our allies, and in order to to get engaged, you need to do what oleksiy did, he was in washington, he was in europe, for that you need to do what poroshenko is doing, he was in washington, he was in europe, and that everyone in his place should do what depends on him, and i am convinced that then we will be completely different we will prepare our defense and our offensive, we will go to our guest on skype and so as to record this moment according to the appeals of luzhny and reznikov. what was heard in our studio that these appeals obviously could be appeals to our event partners about what we need additional weapons, and the commander-in -chief of the armed forces clearly spoke about it, it may be that they

want to tell us that there will be a new wave, and we also need to prepare for it, and that is also normal . already in continuation of this was the statement of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi that the departure and return to the borders on february 24, 2022 will in no way be the end of the war with russia, that is, he is already somewhere in the continuation of explaining the words of the worthy to figure it out, but still, let's go to belarus, we have pavlo latushko, the deputy head of the united transitional cabinet of belarus, and before that, here is the statement of the institute of war analysts there believe that belarus is unlikely to invade ukraine due to the internal dynamics in the country in the institute believe that you from the kremlin to belarus in order to support russian aggression in ukraine are part of long-term efforts aimed at consolidating further control over

belarus . security in the war in ukraine will likely make lukashenko vulnerable to new unrest and resistance lukashenko is also likely aware that an invasion of ukraine will undermine his authority as a leader of a sovereign country as it becomes clear that russia's efforts to ensure full control over belarus have been successful and here i n latushka, i want to ask what he thinks about these forecasts and the institution of war, how much can lukashenko really be afraid of this? will he lose power or is everything lost a long time ago and it is only a matter of time when putin presses him and he will somehow enter into such a full-scale war, that is, an invasion and violation of the borders of the borders of belarus with ukraine, lukashenka's husband and he wants to fear the passion of this government and it is clear that, first of all, he can

try this government unfortunately for moscow, but the situation when ion primarashenia na kerovatsya voyskyy belorussian to ukraine is just as potential for belarus as it is with someone lukashenka we must look at the fact a-a and above all facts they say lukashenko is preparing for war, they are preparing it not the way the russians do it, and then at times when they did not announce mobilization and he forbade the use of the word mobilization, the first uliku of all military personnel is being carried out in training, and now, believe me, the active phase of the training is being started by russian mobs on the territory of belarus is in the russian armaments, that is, the tailoring is processed by the army, and the booth is an informational propaganda company that is simply not stumbling. the generals traveled all over belarus and told the company that ukraine appears to the enemy, poland's enemy, lithuania and

nato and crimes, the united states of america, ion is preparing the land, ion is changing the breath of belarusians, which is simultaneously quietly preparing for war, at this time, no one is paying attention to lukashenko . in prisons, every day in genoa, someone is being imprisoned again, he introduced the death penalty for treason for the soldiers, the knees will go to the side of the belarusian people, or the god of ukrainians, the armed forces are now conducting criminal collective punishment for civil servants at the knees of perro, we would open a special plan for the transit period of the country's management and he does everything as per the information that is also arising from the meeting with shoigu lukashenko . что там неновитый зипипены the most important moment of them in

honor of everything is not connected hatred with machinism, i do not rule out the aggression of the second phase of aggression on the part of ukraine excuse me from the side in belarus to ukraine aa lukashenki on what he will agree and such information is coming colleague this will be done now these through the place once or twice but the preparation for this idea at the same time today received information that the vatican is turning on the uprising process on the territory of belarus kpspromovat stop the war a-a what is the subject of the pyromovy that offers the vatican is a bear to me , but it is presented to me in the same way as if to show such a torrent of information where we want. i will once again offer the authorities to keep silent about their territory and their sovereign land and war will be mowed so that there is a game on the one hand for the public we are for peace and on the other hand there is a real preparation for war and it is necessary to understand that

lukashenka has a chance to peel off from putin there is absolutely no the entire financial system is completely subordinated to russia and he is a hostage of putin's hookah will refuse him and he will be physically liquidated, you said that now there is an incredible level of propaganda, both comedy and in the factories of these state -owned enterprises. what is it like to try to stick out from putin? in the first months of the full-scale aggression of the russian federation, when the partisans on the territory of belarus blew up the tracks, resisted and perhaps then they did not allow

the troops of the republic of belarus to enter the territory of ukraine, what will happen now, our view was in the first days, 1,500 belarusians were detained at the protests of the general staff of belarus in minsk, but when the war began, 90% 90% of belarusians accompanied the war, but now the number of people i read has decreased from 200 to 80%. again increases unfortunately, my number of people who are less ready to support russia i exceed 50% of them, but when you every day propaganda российская лукашенковская, by the way, all the propagandists of lukashenko do not appear in the sanctions as long as we did not offer tumlik in ukrainian as a partner in the city of khust, for some reason, it doesn’t happen. everything about the belarusian commander’s channels , you can watch yours in europe, everything is russian nervy, and the belarusian lullaby continues, nothing at the same time, lukashenko is not done, the sanctions introduced are completely different to russia, 10 points

of sanctions, the brother of the belarusian regime, one point and how many are there as a diplomat as a politician i meet in berlin in paris in warsaw i say so every time goethe a strategic mistake seems to be the time to prepare lukashenko for war prepare the heads of belarusians, because colleagues should change to the income of belarusians themselves before the war, then he will be able to lead the army today, the situation is not critical . lieutenant colonel captain , these are our contacts, our representative on defense matters, take us to the military, active communication, i currently want the system ukraine, generals-colonels, so what will happen at this critical moment, so we first of all, you need to have your own military units of ukraine, and it is good that our volunteers are like belarusians. soldiers who want to go to both ukraine

knew where to go after verification, and this needs to be developed, and the americans and germans need to say very harshly to lukashenko, you are becoming a military target. the border with ukraine is a chance for you to be the future of us, there is no one, ion is very afraid of death, ion khoma sapins, ion is afraid of lesu mylosevich . the oilman who, by the way, has already been communicating with the vatican for 15 years, and he will do the same for this in the vatican topic, to write down and in great detail only the hard scenario i am leading lukashenko , he must be driven into the street and simply show that he is already in the election, there will be no agreement today he is absolutely under putin's wing and will do what putin told him, in the end, only the joint force of the european and nato forces can stop lukashenka, there is nothing to negotiate,

says pavlo latushko, deputy head of the united of the reception office in belarus. thank you for this activation of pedeks, you haven't spoken yet today, and then oksana yurynets, who appeared in our studio like this, broke through the lviv region, the same discussion, the same kind of messages that zaluzhny gave if he looked on the internet while our colleague was speaking belarus sent the same message in the same way to the difference, the key question for me is that we should not allow panic in such a situation that happened on february 24, 2022 will not happen again, you know, the other day i had the opportunity to talk with a member of the defense of the gostomel group, in my opinion, it was a defining battle for ukraine. imagine knowing about it , but he told specifically what was happening there, that is, the gostomel airport was actually captured first from the very full-scale invasion. at nine o'clock in the morning, russian helicopters landed there and in fact the airport was captured and this was, let's say, a key thing in order to capture kyiv in the evening at 8:00 p.m.

22 russian aircraft carriers landed where there were almost 5,000 russian paratroopers. should have sat down and on the same day, on the first day, kyiv would have been captured. let's be frank today. the kyiv direction is already protected. the chernihiv direction is protected, and there are a lot of problems. after the war, we definitely have to find out , because i was in gostomel on the second day after liberation what happened when the offensive from the side of the actually belarusian border was not completely calculated because of that it created colossal problems it created problems in the kyiv region it created problems in buch in irpin we are difficult were recapturing the territory, as for me. why are these messages being served now and fresh, and mr. zaluzhnym, it is absolutely obvious and correct, oleksiy said that there are different opinions, let's say the same in the united states of america and in those capitals that support us, about what and how to do so as not to destroy until the

end of russia, because there is a colossal nuclear potential there, this is the same as what happened in 1991 , when the soviet union was collapsing, accordingly , ukraine must win, but so that russia does not lose to the end, but the further it becomes clear that this is it is impossible and when first we talked about the fact that ukraine's victory would be a return to the territory on february 24, 2022. then we talked, well, our state leadership, including talked about the fact that it would be a return on august 24, 1991. how can that be a victory in this war for me? happen well, probably not in a year, it will happen a little later, but the victory in this war must be complete demilitarization, where the nuclearization and defragmentation of the russian federation or muscovy, by that time there will be a colossal territory of 17 million a population that represses its people means that this territory will in any

case be a threat to neighboring territories and, first of all, to ukraine , because without ukraine they have, say, so they can't be an empire. unfortunately, now that we are already in the ninth and 10th months of the war, on december 24 it will be 10 months since muscovy began an absolutely unprovoked aggression against ukraine, and what we see from levada's figures is that 75% of the population of moscow continues support volodymyr not the 10th month, but the ninth year, the ninth year, yes, in fact, the ninth year, but the 10th month of the full-scale invasion, you are absolutely right, oleg mykhailovych , the ninth year of the war, but the 10th month of the full-scale invasion, where actually died almost a hundred thousand orcs, and despite that they support this. therefore, now as for the last month, positive signals have gone to me , positive signals have gone to the allocation of economic aid, the first thing positive signals have gone from the bundestag. now recognized the famine of 1932-33 as an act of genocide

against the ukrainian people, it was not. moreover, the positive thing now is that the states finally managed to create a bipartisan resolution about the fact that russia cannot be a member of the security council. understanding, we have to speed it up, and as far as i am concerned, the message of general zaluzhnyi and also the minister of defense varshikov that russia is planning a large-scale offensive on kyiv means that this should be a message from the society of the free world that russia will never stop and will continue to attack ukraine and these are the goals that it is currently setting for itself. that is, to get the territories of the donbass, e.e., the donbass or the luhansk region, this is simply taking a temporary truce to continue full-scale actions, because i don't need to panic at all we definitely won strategically, but i also say to the participants of today's meeting that we should be ready for a long war, not some short work, and these

things we talked about, that we are two for for three weeks, we will hold a parade on red square, this issue will take place and in conclusion, i will say a few words about belarus, well, in any case, dear colleagues, of course we can compare with hungary, of course we can compare with other countries that are not friendly we will speak frankly to ukraine, when the full-scale invasions began, who supports ukraine, even all the countries of the european union did not support ukraine, it was in fact the anglo-saxons, and then the european union joined in. well, the united states of america and what was the position of china what was india's position, were there countries that supported the russian federation, but if we talk about hostilities, then hostilities were specifically carried out from the brain and likewise hostilities were actually carried out and shelling from the territory of belarus, so at the moment i also agree with oleksiy well, we actually have to explain if we do not sever diplomatic relations with belarus, then what do we hope

for ? of foreign affairs of belarus, they did not talk about it here today, it was the only channel of lukashenko's communication with the western world, the only channel before this minister of foreign affairs, his death means that in any case lukashenko is cornered, what we want to achieve from the ambassador of belarus because in my opinion, we still have to admit. and this means what the belarusian oppositionist says, that when in relation to russia, conditional sanctions in the same amount are applied, then in relation to belarus, those sanctions are applied in a much smaller amount. and this means why because we, as ukraine, have an ambassador there for the time being and we are not conducting, let's say, any hostilities with them. and why and i think that the same belarusian people