the territory of belarus, so at the moment i also agree with oleksiy well, we actually have to explain if we do not break diplomatic relations with belarus, then what are we hoping for, because we are talking to the belarusian people we are talking to the announcer with lukashenka and his regime and the only thing we will say is the death of the minister of foreign affairs of belarus - they did not talk about it here today, it was the only channel of lukashenko's communication with the western world, the only channel before that. the minister of foreign affairs, his death means that in in any case, lukashenka is all cornered into what we want to achieve from the ambassador of belarus, because in my opinion, after all, we have to admit. and this means what the belarusian oppositionist is saying, that when in relation to russia, conditional sanctions in the same amount are applied, then in relation to belarus, those sanctions are applied to a much lesser extent. and this means why? because we, as ukraine, still have an ambassador there and so far we are not conducting, let's say, any hostilities with them. and why? and i think that the same belarusian people will be much more active

to react against their dictator when they will not feel the same economic troubles as me, if there are any reasons for the need to receive diplomatic relations with belarus , then surely in society it was necessary to talk about it since the 14th year, the war with russia began when relations mps broke up, where were all where were all the politicians, political parties in ukraine why didn't they break up immediately to russia? the head of the regional state administration of the lviv regional council applied, all

the questions were correct. they broke the minsk agreements already now, only the lazy do not say that it was an opportunity for ukraine to increase our armed forces, obviously, obviously, no one is arguing about it anymore, no one is arguing about it anymore, and i think that it is the same we will consider the history of diplomatic relations from the point of view of time from the point of view of what this made it possible to achieve and what was actually lost because of it let's draw conclusions when all the maps and all the information will be revealed and i can just say a couple of words literally if you can literally two words as a retort until february 22, 2022, this is already the eighth year of the war, but even a certain part of society had the illusion that we can continue to live peacefully. when the full-scale war began

offensive in fact, this is politics, next kyiv, and this was the key thing, chernihiv - this is important, kherson - this is important, in the plans it was to take ukraine three days before them, it was to take kyiv in a day, and the next one was actually from the territory of belarus, and this is the 10th month, if any for some reasons, we just have to say about volodymyr. on february 22, our faction of european solidarity asked and let's please allocate money, which we heard in the parliament then, don't spread panic. that's how it was, the manuscripts don't burn and these things will too. the assessment must be given, but now today the question is not to see who made what mistakes back then. it is obvious today that it is very important not to make mistakes now because mistakes now will lead to human casualties and the existence or threats to the existence of many of our people, and this must be understood, so the price of a mistake is now made . the same can be

as high as the price of a mistake. february 22-24, you are 19-22 years old after all. oleksandr yevgenovich, i have a question for you. well, you are also a person who is well-versed in international relations, we all understand that a big the number of today's statements by both zaluzhny and reznikov that the war continues will not just need weapons, russia is preparing for the next oil, so they are obviously not only aimed at the internal audience, but rather precisely at the external audience. what do you think, the first part of the question why today? it was also planned in your opinion that two statements of both zulzh and zulzh and reznyansky appear there with a difference of 4-5 hours, and the second part of the question is whether they will hear those requests, those specific figures what general zaluzhnik said, they already talked about it here,

it already means that it is one-legged, or it will be, or it is already here, and it is coming. a week ago, while being at the nato headquarters with the rectors of ukrainian universities, there were shevchenko karazin kharkov, who is from eastern ukraine, named dal of the former luhansk university, which has now been twice relocated to kyiv by public organizations such as the network for the protection of social interests, aans prizma, the center of new europe, we were asked many questions, you know, they even asked even in nato, he is a key leader, but there are good russians, yes, that is very cool, serhiy mironovych kvit said he says you know another 90,000, and here i already see for posts in zaluzha and thanks to our armed forces of ukraine, remember that that's 90,000, he says. it's all 200. it's like a simple answer , and when they told us that you're not military and that's what you say, then what about your military, and that's why

our military is saying what they should say, that's the key today and we need the fact that we have contacts and cooperation in different countries because it was the same for brussels, amsterdam and warsaw , and also other key european cities. each of us, my colleagues from the public and political sectors, are all trying to help today . one speaks or the other does not speak , that is, there is one part of those who lead the army and there is a second part that must be provided, that is, from the minister of defense . including weapons, i came to the headquarters of the parliamentary assemblies with a t-shirt where it says hummers and a visit to ukraine, that is, that this is a grade, uh, to ukraine, we should come to ukraine with exactly that, and believe me, we definitely understand that for us today, it is very the future is important to think and talk about after the victory yes, but many things need to be done

for this victory to come, so believe me, you can't stop and in that context what why today i think well because that was probably the decision so i don't think i can comment on it -is these opinions of our military elite are now important in order for us to be heard well that they are quoted by the key european and world media hmm why because so that they understand i know that there were very often when there were visits of our colleagues to washington they said you already at least say sometimes thank you because you first come with such a rush, you don't have time, you're late because in reality today ukraine is changing europe and changing the world and it seems to me that very often our partners are very timid in helping us because, by and large, our victory and our country are needed only by us and they are sometimes on our side and for our vision they delay like this and it is at the cost of our ukrainians, our lives, our soldiers, they should understand by today that the victory

of ukraine in this war is the victory of europe and the world the victory of the democratic world, they gradually understand it, but we really need the key things that were mentioned here, which are produced by germany, and which are produced by jordan and south korea , other countries, which are usually in the united states , uh, these are key and the number one partner for us, but this past week, we are also following various political statements that would once have been impossible about the recognition of the holodomor as genocide, well , you can say that it has not been 100 years, so far it has been almost a hundred years since they started talking about it, but in fact it is still gradually approaching victory, and i will tell you frankly that our partners are very well aware that it is simply unknown what will happen next, and that is why other partners are proposing to form a tribunal e for a separate e-e leadership of russia, so is anyone waiting to the fact that russia may not completely lose there, i think not because the key adequate people in the

military structures, security structures of europe and the world understand that there are miscalculations, believe me they may not be the public , but they recognize these things and it is a mistake, shall we say so to the end, and understand politics, because to understand how much the process of degradation can be, as you say negative evolution, and in fact, well , no one could even understand it when we try to explain it to them from different directions. therefore they asked us about the youth, what do our youth think, how should they return and have a chance to be useful and necessary in the reconstruction of the country, and this should be analyzed because i will tell you that europe is very strong at certain moments. today we helped, but we clearly speak for our victory to return to the same positions as before february, and here i am correct in noting that no one in the world knows what a 9-year war is like, there is no such war in the world for 9 years, there are no such experienced soldiers as i am in ukraine today, but i have to tell you

the next, they are exhausted in the same way for eight years . look, it is also not easy for a person to exhaust certain resources. and to think how to change it so that we do not borrow the future from our children, yes, it must be done. today, unfortunately, it is much easier when what today our military leadership said that it should be in ukraine, it is necessary for our security, and it is also necessary for victory to be faster , we are not just talking about victory, we are talking about speeding up victory, we are talking about quick victory because in fact, when our military, conditional philologists, women go there and tell that they have been in the army for 6-8 years in a galley fax, believe me, it is a shock for them, autumn comes personally and congratulates them by the hand, or do they understand that in fact the militarization of ukraine today and this force it exists and stands on guard precisely to protect them themselves, that is why we give them into their hands something that will save their lives, we do not say yes for anything else, and that is why every time we discuss

the return of the territory on february 24, or is it by the first year, if it was supposed to be, that is, of course for everyone an adequate ukrainian we want to have our own crimea and everyone welcomed sinteblaev's theme and wrote that the next birthday should be in crimea and this is what people write year after year who clearly understand that the crimean tatars must return to the crimea and the terror must stop because of this you have to answer here and there repeatedly, petro chernyk always said that the basis for us to say that this is the end of the war is when the russian nation will have two generations to atone for this guilt, this is when they sign a memorandum and ukraine can be as a guarantor and that she will give all these nuclear weapons of hers, which she also has those things, by the way, very often then, which we gave them, now it comes to us, and we also had some kind of wrong policy. and this should also be mandatory joining nato, no matter how banal it once sounded in the 19th year and it seemed that we didn't really need it. and it's not so much, in fact, it's the only

security system for countries in 70 years. a more powerful and possible format the security one after this war, but in fact there are very, very many conventions that today can be accepted by society, the world and europe. it is good that in society, no matter how hard they try, because i will tell you honestly, the muscovite works and further on in europe , they start talking what are your payments? this is because there is a war in ukraine. you are helping the ukrainians, that is why you have such problems. active where necessary even if it were not difficult, i will tell you honestly that getting to the nato headquarters is three trains to amsterdam and to warsaw and from warsaw to amsterdam we will always give two more trains but this is now the way to get somewhere from ukraine is very difficult when friends come here, i was late to you not because of traffic jams, but because our

german friends brought very necessary things for the hospital for the orlyk children's hospital. they brought very necessary things for our military who today need this support, help, this it's very important that we know how to say thank you and that 's why we always say that to our partners the united states that we will thank you even more moreover we will thank you in the next generations just let us win quickly let us win with less losses and our very er, active young people who learn quickly, know languages ​​because, believe me, they are shocked that we can speak with them in their languages ​​of european countries. troops, but he says, you know, in these 9 months , you already have almost four languages, because i have to apply medicine from italy, france, germany, and i am learning these languages, that is, i have to know them in order to know how to help, so in fact, we are learning quickly as

of now consolidation is very important and understanding what is important is that very often and for a long period of time the trust has been destroyed we cannot afford this because god forbid then the nation will be different and now it is very important to be a united team to help and one more thing is not in any way do not squeeze local self-government, because believe me, it is the basis of the protection of territorial defense, and this is something that every local self-government should understand today, you cannot mock it and be able to speak accurately. thank you for the work done, this is also another important argument to speak at all . now let's look at sociology group rating in continuation of what you talked about 85% of ukrainians believe that the victory of ukraine in the war with russia will be the liberation of all its territories, including crimea and the occupied donbass and one more figure is also important. 97% of ukrainians are confident that ukraine will be able to repulse the attack of russia, that is, this is

faith. unity and such a belief. with ms. oksana and returning to the article of general zaluzhnyi, there is one interesting phrase about the good russians, we will kill them and we must kill them. i’m afraid i may not have expressed myself exactly, but any enemy there will be such an enemy of the commander-in -chief such a high rank to hear such words are fantastic, as far as i'm concerned, yes, that is, the direct text was clear and clearly stated for the external consumer, because the article was for an economist, that is, it is clear that it was not even published on ukrainian politics. so what territory was it intended for, that is, the event was absolutely clearly understood by e- these are the main regulations and regarding

what he clearly understood. and quite a long time in that and a strategic decision that russia is an enemy not only of ukraine but an enemy of this western democratic world. i think several economic factors that er show us the vector of future developments if you remember the president of the united states trump demanded from the members of the nato alliance their participation in the military budget er was 2% of the budget yes er germany made this decision after all they will finance within the framework of 2% of their budget, and the budget of germany... the budget of germany will be like this

spending on armaments means that they not only have something to help, but they clearly understand what is needed for this in a consolidated collective measure, which means that they are now reformatting their gdp and their budget, as well as economic development . with russia, and cheap hydrocarbons were the basis of the development of the german miracle in the 1970s for the last 30 or maybe more years, so now the economic model is probably changing a little, and by financing their gdp, they will increase the economic power of germany, not only germany and the west in general, this also applies to the united states. in ukraine will get out of control and

a big war between nato and russia will sprout. but i am sure that we will avoid it. there is a risk, but there is hope that it will not be possible. well, it will not happen. although most ukrainians know this, probably we would definitely not refuse the direct help of the nato countries in relation to oleksiy goncharenko and then pavlyuk, we will talk about poland because, well, if the belarusians go theoretically, how will the poles react, and we want to hear from mr. pavlyuk the reaction to this scandal, which is gaining momentum with an explosion as if they were seriously transmitted from ukraine, it’s serious, yes well, i just wanted to answer the question you asked, why is this signal now coming from ukraine for alkaline, definitely this is not accidental and definitely daikonness i would be happy to take an interview for an alkaline all these 10 months and only now it is a journalist, now it was allowed and it was done and because it is necessary to give an appropriate message and why now, well, actually, let's

call a spade a spade ukraine has gone on the counteroffensive since the end of august since those pir, we have two super successful operations, this is kharkiv and this is kherson, and kharkiv is a brilliant work of our military, starting from the command, misleading the dragging of russian troops to kherson, using the weakness that was created on the russian line because there there was an insufficient number of troops. and we took advantage of this factor to the fullest extent. we have a brilliant result in kherson. let's say right away that putin drew conclusions from this and russian self-mobilization began after kharkiv because he realized that with the number of troops he has, he cannot restrain the armed forces so he needs more of this cannon fodder and this is a russian weakness , he removed it now it is gone now the number there is such that it is another story the second thing is kherson kherson is unique conditions the river is very difficult

supplies, and in principle, it had been since the summer. well, i spent a lot of time there on this part of the front, and our military people all said that they should not go . in fact, you can say that now. everyone dreamed that they would not go in november, but stay after frosts will hit because the edge of the ice means that there can be no further supply through there of boats, barges and everything else and they simply end this surrounded group which will be completely destroyed and our military wanted to destroy the group completely, but the russians too there, well, not exactly idiots and the weather forecast see and understand all these risks and that is why they left kherson , and this is also obvious. well, this is a great success of ours, there is no doubt about it, but there are very specific conditions now in order for us to make the next success, we will not be able to do it simply that's why this message is being sent today that if we want and the whole world wants us to make the next success i'm not saying

now where it's not my business it's the military's business where it should be but to create it we need resources we need to ensure that that we created kharkiv today this is not enough and the unique situation like kherson is no longer there and that is why we need more resources and this is a very important issue today and time is very important. years, and maybe trump will win the us elections, and maybe those people who can come to power will come to power, what do we have to spend money on some country that is somewhere far across the ocean, they are also there today, they are very strong, thank god, but no one knows what it will be two years ago, i'm sure, that's why this message appears now, it means that our armed forces see an absolute opportunity to achieve a decisive success, but today there are not enough resources to ensure this, and that's why this diplomatic information front is so

important that the leadership of the ukrainian of the armed forces. it seems to me that a hint is important. to regroup and now we finally hear february , maybe march, another attack, well, regarding poland, well, look, i will be very careful to ask questions and quote public e-e media, yes, this is state media, so well, to choose the right words, e-e, the headline exploded in poland, a gift for the boss of the police, which he received in ukraine, there was an explosion in poland. services of the ministry of internal affairs of poland yesterday in the premises of e-e what is adjacent to the office of the main police headquarters there was an explosion, according to the polish side, the cause of the explosion was a gift from one

of the heads of the ukrainian services that the commandant received during a visit to ukraine, one of the gifts received by the commandant during a visit to ukraine exploded of a working visit to ukraine on december 11-12, where he met with the heads of the ukrainian police and emergency services, the post notes, "well, now, this could turn into something, and what could it be?" this is an attempt to somehow quarrel ukraine and poland, and how is it a slur. i emphasize this once again, i quoted the public media, this is the state media, which is funded by the state, to choose all the words correctly. i think it will be nothing. there will be no quarrels. there will be conclusions, of course, a commission it works, you understand, this is negligence, the war is going on, and the fact that weapons are walking everywhere you can, where you can’t, and the same goes for these gifts, if our people are doing it to someone there , i don’t know who did it . whatever

it is not known there that, accordingly, it called somewhere there, and accordingly, something like this will happen, i will not confirm that there will be exhibitions of the commission, then they will say, forgive me. and i would not dismiss the question from the special operation, because the box that is handed over and the box that is then opened can be two completely different boxes and the fact that today the russian special services want to do everything possible to quarrel ukraine and its western partners, especially poland, which has become very clearly on the side of ukraine, which is the promoter of ukraine, which received a huge number of ukrainians. it is obvious that it is the task of the russian special services, and i think it is very important that an absolutely independent investigation be conducted, and it seems to me that if someone follows the path of this gift from the moment it was, if it was, to the moment of the explosion, i

think that there will be at least a few people who either held this gift in their hands or were present or close to the places where this gift was, i say once again in poland, as well as in all of europe, russian special services and their today's task is to quarrel ukraine and our partners, their tasks today, so that ukraine does not receive the help that we have, our task is to strengthen and complete this union, which took place today, ukraine, the eu, ukraine, nato with our entry into the european community and the north atlantic defense alliance . there is simply no other alternative. all the same, i continue, no one rejects p olezhe, of course what you say ah, for that, the commission will work, and it is from our side, from the polish side, without a doubt uh, how is it, who handed it over and the general himself didn’t carry it with him, someone was there, someone handed it, someone

gave it. of course, it is followed, but the fact that our services should work more clearly. that is why i mean meeting guests, sorting out guests, giving what is needed and not forget that our fifth column is still full everywhere, you do not deny that i think that everywhere in our service there are also very, very deep canned goods and we, of course, i do not deny that you said that it could be a trace of the russian we will let's see, what about the fact that the poles will join or not, what will be the situation of belarus , will they go to volyn, this is being prepared, of course, i will tell you, they have been ready for a long time and they are ready not only from the side of the belarusians, they are not ready from the side of the rabbit in polish, so i do not address such a thing there used to be krolevets, then it was conquered by the germans , krolevets, yes, they are also preparing there, and they are also preparing on the belarusian side, no doubt, but they will, if the belarusians do not accidentally attack

our side of ukraine in mind because they are members of nato, i.e. two, she excludes almost an employee spends the poles will be with us until the end until our victory, we will definitely never quit, we can be calm here, no matter what happened there, this or that incident with the general, whether there was an explosion or in other cases or rockets fell, we know whose they fell too, nothing happens, you understand , the poles will be with us, they are real, our partners are real, our friends and i must count on this. and they will not start a war because they are members too much. to help by force, and everyone else will help what they are doing today, without a doubt. you have one more question. you can say a little, even a changing topic , but it is important because we are constantly watching what is happening in the russian federation, we are waiting for concrete signals of

what they have everything is going wild, these wars for power are starting, some intrigues and so on, something similar happened this week . an ex-serviceman, horkin, or a shooter, it is difficult to understand what his real surname is. they began to argue with each other, challenge each other to some verbal duels, so to speak, but earlier there was a lot of information that the same horking is the state in which the fsb solovyov is there works directly in the context of putin's propaganda, or can this story become an impetus for an open confrontation. what will be the benefit of ukraine, any weakening of russian power is in favor of ukraine. is this just another one? i think that there is both the first and the second. well,

of course, they fight with each other, they know when you lose here, you look for who is to blame , they obviously understand everything that is happening and that everything is going absolutely wrong. there as they planned and that is why they will and will gnaw at each other to find the culprits. in addition, i think that resources are becoming less and , including, on propaganda, russia is losing very seriously, which means that there is a struggle for money and opportunities in this we still have a lot of struggle we will see and hear something interesting. however, i am absolutely not that i do not rule it out. i am absolutely sure that today putin is playing the same strategy and this whole story is with a bitter one. wagner was also hiding it. it was some kind of thing. it is understandable. and today it is in the face of russia. he consciously pushed it to the fore with this sledgehammer and with all

this kadyrov and others. it's called you don't want me, you'll have them, we'll have them . he deliberately intimidates the west, and unfortunately, we have to admit that this strategy works for him to a certain extent, because they watch and think to themselves, this is such a terrible dream. yes, putin is a criminal . they understood all this, but he for them, well, if there was some kind of at least more or less understandable. and this is crazy. that is, you want a nuclear warhead instead of a beautiful sledgehammer, you want kadyrov to lead the nuclear arsenal of russia or to decide whether to use other weapons of mass effect. well, you are that bibisinya from ukraine live from london olga palamaryuk works in the studio and today we will talk about this for the second time in two days the russians hit the center