you have a pulse behind that paneling. she should return to the museum at least, and it will be seen later, we have to do this, i don’t know, maybe this is a bad joke, but how about the mariupol theater, that is, they actually fenced off the inside of the theater, i don’t have it, they bombed it inside, only just but still not yet. not all of them thought about it, not all of them got all the people who were left there as rubble, but you know , maybe it is necessary and with this same kateryna, that is, they fenced off to paint there, i don’t know some shevchenko around there, i don’t know polubotka, and then once and for all kateryna is not there, everything is just gone. so , mr. serhiy, thank you for this conversation

. by the way, even part of the kirovohrad region has already declared an alarm , namely in the city of svitlovodsk and the territorial community, and the sumy region has also already fallen into this red zone of air alarm, unfortunately, unfortunately on it's a pity that half of ukraine is now, of course, do not ignore these warnings. please, be careful , go down to the shelter if there is such an opportunity and need. well, next year, we will still expand the number of schools that will work full-time. this is good news, that is, it means that the city is, in principle, in looks optimistically at the next year, and for children it is also of course very important, after all, the opportunity to get a better education, a greater moment of socialization, god, allocate a whole year for two years in

this quarantine, but i have a child, too for three years, she has been studying in the third year and well, the child thought that what is student life, all these parties stay there. what, no, this is such a life somewhere, this is a zoom conference and all of you, what is student life, well, fortunately, it also clears customs a little bit . that's how that somehow it will somehow be well, and listen, we must remind you that our iryna koval is our tv presenter, she, in addition to conducting news, conducts programs on espresso , you know her well and remember her, in addition to all that, she is also a volunteer and works with tv channels espresso is gathering for drones for the military with the combined tactical group adam group usually performs the most difficult tasks in the most fierce areas and actually we are appealing to everyone who can somehow join this collection eh every hryvnia

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let's talk with our guest natalia zaderei, an economist. in this area ms. nataliya good morning good morning andriy to begin with, let's draw in general terms what the construction industry means in general for the ukrainian economy, what place it occupies in it from the point of view shares of gdp, construction is not one of these top industries, but of course it is an important industry, it is also important because construction affects our cities, our common space, it determines the comfort of cities, their investment attractiveness, migration processes, and, of course, after the war, the importance

of construction will increase because reconstruction is expected uh, well, about after the war, it’s clear, uh, we’ll talk about it, but let’s go back a little , here we are at the breaking point, now an era in this area, we can say that new legislation has been adopted, let’s let's remind you how the process worked before the new laws until recently, who controlled the process of urban development , what were the pros and cons of this process, this is a very important question, because the answer to it explains the reaction to the draft law. the urban planning reform actually began in in 2011, with the adoption of the law on the regulation of urban planning and activity, this law in particular started deregulation and liberalization in the industry, and it was precisely after

the entry into force of this law that, in particular, in kyiv and the suburbs, new housing construction increased. this law has already changed the balance of interests between communities and developers, that is, this industry in ukraine has become one of the most, well, maybe one of the most liberal in terms of the permitting system in europe, and this has caused not only such record-breaking, very significant uh, the pace of construction, but also a lot of such construction scandals, a lot of illegal construction uh, uh, that's why such uh, well, scandalous things like uk-groups and the kind of those from construction, the kind of wojciechovsky, actually, i wanted to uh- this brand was

it is a story that unfinished blocks in the city of kyiv leave thousands of people without housing for investors. that is, the law that was previously adopted in 2011. as you said, it actually allowed such things to happen. well , look, the law is actually not he's already bad - he's not bad i don't want to blame him for everything, here you have to be more careful, of course, the issue is simply that already now cities have a rather limited influence on building control already now , you understand, that is, cities are local authorities, they are essentially they allocate land there and still have a little bit of influence there through the local bodies of state architectural construction control

, not only the law on the city, the regulation of urban planning activities, the reason for all there is also the law on financial and credit mechanisms in housing construction, these are quite old laws that in fact, he identified such a feature of our primary housing market, what it is and what is on it. maybe the so-called boiler financing or the pyramid principle, but in the aggregate it gives what we have , it gave the ukrbud arcade, it gave a lot of things and now, if there was a public request, a request from citizens like you and me to somehow organize everything so that the cities were also for the people, so that they were comfortable, so that the people who now left because of the war wanted to return to

ukraine after living in europe in comfortable cities, but the deputies. well, i want to say that the deputies sensed this request and went to your meeting and adopted new legislation that how to advertise more where regulates the industry, that is, they didn't do the opposite. well, we just contrast places and developers, but there are some positive things there , jobs, uh, investments in the city budget, uh, infrastructure development, theoretically, yes, but in practice, we always in practice, we always see that uh, any new large-scale construction immediately arises resistance from the local community literally there last week i saw that another shopping center is being built on poznyaki on the left bank in kyiv and people

still go out during the war during blackouts and blackouts to protest, this trend continues, that is, this legislation that we are talking about now we are talking new, you say it liberalizes liberalized, which means in simple words, that is, it allows the developer to disregard the opinion of the local community, the opinion of the local authorities, or are you investing in something else at this time? it was already perceived as a synonym for dabi equals corruption eh in the 20th year it was disbanded eh reformed the reform of the permit system has already begun and a new body was created instead diameter the state inspection of architecture and urban planning, well, this body is central in

issuing e-e permits, and in my opinion this is not enough, that is, the balance of interests is such . the law was adopted because it somehow stands out from the general trend of reforming the ukrainian economy. we are all very proud of the decentralization reform. and we say that thanks to the decentralization reform, ukraine managed to be more flexible, more resistant, that is, more durable during the full-scale russian actor, nothing local communities were able to solve all problematic issues very quickly. they did not have to

go to the center for this and ask for money from the central budget. at the same time, in the field of urban planning, i see that everything is quite centralized and the local community, as you say, will have even fewer rights. why is there such inconsistency in the economic policy of our government? that’s right. i absolutely agree. the light just went out here and i i'm sorry a-a that's how the reform of decentralization is very important and really there is such a definite well, it's not a docking that on the one hand i would like to transfer powers to local communities and on the other hand precisely in such an important area in such a sensitive area as housing construction we have nuances when on the contrary, uh, if the communities are a little oppressed, how do they allow me

the right to vote? everything is correct, but this is a bill for now. i understand that until the president has signed it, it has not entered into force, and there is still a chance that it will not be uh signed because for example only in one night, as i remember, more than 30,000 signatures were collected under a petition to mr. president to pass this law . well, if you take into account the fact that the initiators of the draft law were directly the servants of the people and the leader of the servant of the people faction ms. olena shulyak, she was in our program. by the way, we also talked about urban planning, but it was quite a long time ago, maybe six months ago so if

look at it, it is most likely an already agreed decision and the motivation here is clear. as you rightly said, after the war there will be a big reconstruction and big money will go into this industry, and accordingly politicians are trying to create conditions for attracting investments. but it turns out that because of this , the local residents themselves can definitely suffer. and you said about the second level of the problem, about the financial level, about how everything is arranged at the financial level, that the rights of investors are not protected, maybe seconds, at least it protects the rights investors housing, if it deprives the community of many rights to stop construction but well , at least those people who will buy apartments will not be cheated, or there is no solution here either,

see this law that concerns urban planning absolutely does not affect financial aspects, but financial aspects are changing, have already been changed by law which is in force, which was adopted in the summer of this year, it is legal with number 50-91, i don't remember exactly the name about the guarantee of property rights, something there and it is this law that, according to the author, it is designed to protect rights of investors, although in my opinion it actually also expands the rights of developers well, of course there are also positive points in that law but in my opinion , it does not solve the fundamental problems of our primary real estate market, that is, in total, two such

very important laws were already adopted during the war and i see well, of course, these laws also have pluses, it cannot be said that only one negative is solid, but the balance of forces clearly continues to tilt in the direction of developers and the rights of investors. remain in doubt, although they tell us that everything is fine now, there will be no bubbles, no pyramids, nothing at all well, let's see how it will be, of course, politicians always promise everything good and then it happens in a different way e p vitaly thank you for the explanation, it was with us natalia zaderey an economist who is well-versed in real estate issues and who really cares about it, i will add that on december 8, the kyiv city council approved a program for the comprehensive reconstruction of microdistricts of the white housing stock, the document contains a list of buildings that will be

up to 70% of the old living stock of the housing stock is going to be reconstructed, and activists fear that instead of five-story buildings, twenty-story buildings may appear, and this law on urban planning, which was just adopted by the verkhovna rada but has not yet been signed by the president, can facilitate such large-scale construction . andriyanitskyi with economic news on the espresso tv channel, see you on monday at eight in the morning, together we will win so that ukrainians do not think about anything, no matter what they talk about in the first place everything one thing comes out war war and our victory seven days a week from monday to sunday seven different spheres of human activity sports culture politics eight presenters of express journalists experts opinion leaders

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. sometimes for two days. yes, we still had a committee there in kyiv. we met as a committee of representatives of all the development ministers of the ministry of defense , ukroboronprom, and discussed urgent issues that are currently we will of course also try to talk about valery zaluzhny's interview, which i think is very interesting and he is not often interviewed. i have time to go there today to read, wow, i hope valery zaluzhnyi missed our morning program today, they have already analyzed it simply for molecules

and there they have already found what they are there zaluzhnyi praised their mobilizations and so on. well in a word, they always somehow know how to read what the excellent person said, keep your face, and now they said i am now where you can already be of the first, second and third degree, and the third posthumously. that is why valeriy zaluzhny declared that the commander of the russian group in the sveo zone, sergey survykin, reminds him of the military commander of the times according to peter the great, one look at the russian general is clear enough to make a conclusion about the character of the military, you look at him and understand that either you are completing a task or you are finished said zaluzhny, keep your mouth shut, there was nothing there, the most interesting thing was that in the original he probably said even to you that it is not the end because it was translated into a jurfakt eh, that is, it is good that it is english, we can say it is fun and that's it eh romano well

then none the less, if you are serious, what is the current situation today ? plai serhiy just joined us from kherson and said that the shelling again, the constant shelling, are disturbing, did the shelling yesterday hit the regional administration again, what are the forecasts, how long will it last? for the russians to give nightmares to the people of kherson well, if in general , then really all their intentions and their hopes to seize ukraine, yes, they are now trying to somehow make an operational pause in order to prepare their mobilization resources and a lot. we hear, including from uh smooth has from uh the minister of foreign affairs a breakthrough, many other experts say that uh, it is possible to repeat their uh

repeated oil, i won't say where, but let's say an operation in order to concentrate forces and not disperse them as they are now are doing there trying to strike separately in each direction and concentrate on preparing your choice of weapons and hitting somewhere once, yes, with the hope that our defense will break, so we must understand that the battle or war is not yet won and we need more. well, does the enemy have enough resources and it is necessary to pay attention to this, as far as certain areas are concerned, the hostilities there are not so active. but yes , the enemy is shelling our settlements, the enemy is killing our civilian population, in addition, the civilian population that was under occupation before that is suffering

there is no humanitarian crisis in terms of landmines, and yesterday they called and the day before yesterday they dropped a video where it was just the civilian population going to the forest strips in the fields there, someone tried to find their farmers, they break away from the mines, people who just go to the field there to collect boxes or forest strips after the orcs that were left under the shells before that there is a real problem with firewood, if i wanted to use it and ask the government to solve it, because people go and look for firewood to heat the premises and it is blown up by mines, and this must be solved now, this concerns kherson region well, the enemy really continues to fire, i will tell you, including kherson. we have seen it from various types of weapons and this is a problem. well, everything that follows is basically unchanged, the main hot directions are the east, eh, this is,

and give it away. well, for zaporizhzhia, there are still no changes, there are such artillery duels and some local active actions, statements by the russians that they should liberate chernihiv and odesa, this is what they are saying for their internal user. do we still need to prepare and pay attention to chernihiv itself look at odesa. we must always be ready for what the russians can carry out. well , we tried so that they would carry out further operations, then we, well, i said before that they liberated the kherson direction yes, in order to use it in another direction, and now they are actively taking other steps, despite the fact that they have mobilized, with which they filled the

losses among the regular units, and really they are so prepared, these mobilized and there are many myths they were told about them. we saw, but what i said from the very beginning, when the mobilization began , how do they often start or mobilized to those regions of the russian federation, where? well, in the future, the far east or somewhere else, replacing regular units, where there are no combat troops operations of the regular unit are being transferred here to our country to conduct hostilities, and it is a problem that they are throwing trained troops here despite