let this is of course extremely important. because in fact, on the battlefield, it is not the number of tanks competing with other military equipment, in fact, armed conflicts are actually a confrontation of combat control systems and command systems in general. who has more information, processes it faster, makes decisions and strikes in the most the enemy's vulnerabilities are the ones who actually win. so, this is exactly what we will talk about with the guests of our program, about the new technologies of modern warfare. we want to explore the various components of what determines the present and the future of the ukrainian army, my name is serhii zgorytskyi, the director of the defense express company , which, together with the espresso channel, highlights the most relevant trends in the life of the ukrainian army and the defense -industrial complex. the captain

of the armed forces, who takes care of the promising directions of the development of the ukrainian army, oleksandr. i congratulate you, mr. serhiy. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. i would like you to outline our to the audience, the modern importance of technology when it comes to intelligence, the entire directive of the management to increase the use of the weapons themselves, which are standard and promising, what is most important to understand here, first of all, the alarms have just ended, and i have to thank our western partners who provide their own intelligence thanks to early warning planes so that around the clock are cruising along our borders issuing right here right here intelligence they cannot give a whole indication but they at least give the position approximately the position of certain air targets and now let's get down to that issue itself. it is related to what i said, of course

intelligence is the basis, and you said information management, i would like to get down to the level of tactical, then the future, which is the most understandable and most practically relevant today , and it is known that thanks to one from the a systems, maybe even let’s not be shy, the nettle system of tactical control on the battlefield is actually an element of gathering intelligence from directly those tactical units that are in one or another position and is being pushed forward for development, it is transferred to this system, it is essentially such a military internet, i don't even want to say internet. that is, it is not an internal feature of the internet, in essence, because these data are thanks to, including, the means of communication from ancient times it is possible to transmit anywhere in the world, in general, i am not telling you about the ukrainian headquarters or other control points. that is, thanks to us, i mean we,

ukraine, the ukrainian army, ukrainian developers, programmers, mathematicians created an advantage qualitatively advantage technological advantage before the start of a large-scale invasion of the russian invading army precisely thanks to the system of gathering and fast rapid transmission of information, which, according to the estimates of mathematics specialists, at least by an order of magnitude, that is, 10 times improved the effectiveness of the use of rockets, rocket troops of artillery, not to mention the tactical unit, that is, even having a shortage a numerical shortage in the armament of artillery and missile armament thanks to the system of network-centric data management and the ability to quickly transfer commands to means of tearing, we at least reach parity with the

russian army, which has a numerical advantage in the armament of military equipment. and if we are talking about other areas where we desperately need the use of digital technologies, what can be important here, or when we talk about artificial intelligence, there are digital doubles such other things. these are our own in general, at the current stage of the ukrainian-russian war, should we talk about it or is it this? should it be postponed for a certain next period of time, in our case, nothing can be postponed. so, you see, i will give you such an asymmetric for example, today we do not have enough american f16 planes, i constantly emphasize the f15 and which are air launchers for interceptor missiles as means of air defense and what is happening is that we are suffering such significant losses and again it is painful i read all the news what is happening in

kharkiv, my second native place, from the city, there is absolutely no electricity . by the way, there are great scientists from those universities, like civilian universities, who still remain in kharkiv and who are trying to work in these conditions to prepare those very developers, constructors, designers who should, i hope that they will be able to show their skills and professional abilities precisely in the creation, now let's go to here, if you asked. we need operational strategic management systems, the basis of these systems was laid a long time ago. i remember this from 90s since the end of the 90s that when he told us about this at the military department and such efforts in ukraine were being made all the time and are being made and one system has already been put into experimental operation, but i perfectly like the developer understands what it is. let's say it's an

alpha version or a beta version, and it will still need to be refined. for this, it is necessary to develop. now again, what you correctly asked is to develop the technological base itself, that is, it is necessary to create distribution servers, servers with e-e backup power supply. they must be are concentrated in safe places in countries. they must have appropriate computing power. this is how we once again enter into military-technical cooperation with our western partners, primarily in by the united states of america and suppliers of computer information technologies and this you see that with each and every kind we are rising higher and higher to a higher strategic level and here it is impossible to distinguish that there is something more important or no less important, this is the question that we need to engage in such a principle of designing complex technical products of aviation and aerospace, what is it called, it is

somehow difficult, we are trying to transfer it to our conditions, whether it is parallel design or simultaneous design, what is it about, what is it, does not want mathematical vectors, terms, use, who is the input vector, well, that is, there is a set of parameters, i will show you literally, there are 1 2 3 4 5, there are diplomatic relations, there are military-technical relations, there is banal writing of a technical task, there is access to technology materials, and all this must be done at the same time in order to some specified period of time to reach the planned and desired result for us, that is, the creation of a management system of intelligence management of the strategic level, the operational strategic level, which will allow us to always have at least intellectually, at the expense of intellectual means, an advantage over the enemy, who

has a numerical material and technical advantage in armaments and in human resources. i even want to order the human mass specifically. i will say because this mass is not even the military. these are just criminals, thieves who oleksandr, relatively speaking. now, when we say that the information component is an important prerequisite for conducting effective combat operations, then immediately in this context the question of supply arises we have technological samples of weapons when we talk about the patriot and when we talk about the f15 when we talk about the swedish archer howitzers well, i heard that actually, relatively speaking, these weapons will be effective if, if indeed , such a single information network for military purpose is created in our country, which is really will allow these advantages of weapons to be scaled according to the capabilities of the most armed capabilities of such an information system. does this mean that some process must now take place

which allows the switch to integrate these patriots and then let's say so f 15th, what steps should be taken here so that it is clear to our viewers what it is about. should we create new command posts there or switch to another interaction system there on other frequencies be done so that the patriots there at 15 were actually already as key elements of this system to increase effectiveness on the battlefield, let's start with a simple one, in essence, we have become interoperable with the weapons systems of the nato standards management and this progress must be accelerated. this process is greatly hindered by the non-spreading of the english language in the state of ukraine, which is the common language of professional communication in any nato country. take our our closest dear neighbor poland, where school children already learn english to the level that

entering this will be a military university university they already communicate freely about professionally in english we do not have this, remember that in the summer and i even had to act as an instructor and translator in order to ensure training of our troops in great britain, this once again emphasized the same problem, therefore, in order to work in this direction, in fact, it is necessary. i think that such an institution has already been created. i do not even want to have access to the level of secrecy in which such developments and those in the places where they take place, this imposes very serious restrictions on personal abilities to work and think, you are in a very tight system , but those people who devoted themselves to this should not reinvent the wheel, but work precisely in the paradigm

it turns out that the united states of america and its largest partners are doing it, in fact, why do i say that? everything we do works out as the example you saw on american training grounds confirms that what we do is relevant, that is, it is a correctly posed question properly applied and we just need to develop these capabilities but develop these capabilities as management systems one way or another we will be based on technologies mostly united states of america this means starting from the microprocessor, from the data transmission system, the same , the same, starlink, you see communication satellites and so on, which ukraine does not have yet. the question

is that until we plan the english language, we will not get patriot. is it possible that there are more, er, shorter ways that allow us to use western weapons on the sam same? somehow our military dominated, which i understand. now, on the patriot on petriv, you have to study there like i understand everything the logic of combat procedures, it provides certain, let's say, the order of actions, there are buttons with english inscriptions, and it must be mastered quickly, because you understand how this complex fights, because in any case, you need to look for ways to speed up this process, don't expect to learn only the english language it is possible, trying to include as much information as possible in a shorter period of time. today we really have enough specialists graduated from military higher

educational institutions who can be sent and they are sent, are sent abroad and undergo internship training for any weapons systems , including the patriots pec-3, i hope that they are intended for anti-missile defense well, of course, the fighters also talked about the years, so i talked a little about something else, i talked about the english language, as it is absolutely widely used already in the troops, well, the nearest one, i hope it will happen in 3-4 years so that we can all communicate freely with our colleagues with us, you mentioned the development of nettle, which is actually a tactical combat control system that provides integration of data, is translated into information, shortens the cycle of combat control in accordance with the use of artillery. and in fact, this is precisely the direction of the digital ukrainian army which bets on the creation of automated control systems of various levels, it really increases, relatively speaking, the efficiency of

using even a smaller number of weapons to me there they told that it is actually a nettle system that shortens the cycle of combat control by five times at a higher strategic level - this is a development called a bell that was adopted on december 6, which was talked about by the minister of defense varshkikov. it was developed for about four years or even more. in fact, general zaluzhnyi and general syrskyi were actually the main lobbyists of this project because it precisely ensures the effective management of brigades at a high level and provides, relatively speaking, a 25% increase in combat capacities for brigades even well, in the usual format only due to the reduction of the cycle of combat management and understanding of what is happening on the battlefield, you mentioned that there are management systems of nato countries, we are moving to nato standards, but i had to hear a discussion about what actually when we create what do we we must first of all create a national system of combat management because the

procedures and combat statutes are excellent there, in particular in the american army and in the ukrainian army, and relatively speaking, there are conversations about what we can to switch to the combat control system that exists there in the nato countries is actually impossible, because everyone here has to forge their own national path in view of the peculiarities of using their weapons systems. what is your opinion, should we develop this own component with the automation of combat control or find some points of contact to the decisions that prevail today in nato countries. when i spoke about the creation of systems of any level of management, i meant more, the software hardware complex of the driver did not touch the question what you said about the difference in statutes over time will come to this anyway, this interview will be reworked, i.e. interoperability with the miner army it takes

some time, it is years, it is for months, a week, after all, more than the designer touched exactly as he said, the hardware and software complex, that is, what means technical ones should be built, designed and built precisely taking into account or according to nato standards. this means even the form factor of the power supply voltage. the power supply is 27 v, the american 28 v seemed to be a difference of 1 v, but it creates a very big headache for operation and so on for logistics, although the battery can even be a week, but formally according to the standard it is no longer the case. i said about such things that we should leave everything already- after all, from the soviet union, and since one way or another we are going to war and we are already fighting, i am not saying

mostly, but we have a very large percentage of armaments, and very especially serious armaments of nato countries . to go out and invent a bicycle in order not to spend extra money on the headlight oleksandr thank you for including such a difficult period, i would like to remind our viewers that oleksandr oles, doctor of technical sciences, captain of the armed forces, who takes care of promising directions for the development of the armed forces, was on the air of espresso channels, and now we are in touch is the head of research projects of the sos army volunteer organization oleg, mr. oleg, if you can hear me, i would like to address you. good afternoon. i know that you are currently on the training ground and to our viewers let me remind you that oleg oleg is actually the head of the group that developed the nettle program mentioned by

oleksandr los and oleg. i would like you to briefly explain the advantages of this e-system, what it provides, why the enemy does not have such a system or the enemy is hunting your development and what further steps will be related to the development of nettle well, a little correction i am not a direct developer well, i am a representative of arandi in the direction of the army sos well of course i know very well about this project, how it was created and in the context of your question what it is the advantages that provide well, it is plus-minus, it is obvious, as a more scientific language, we can say that nettle is an example of the transition from a platform-centric war to a network-centric war, and it is, well, in simple language, it is, well , a platform - it is a tank or a modern plane that costs a lot of money, difficult to operate and so on and so

on. as a rule, the platform has all the means of finding the target, hitting the target, and much more . information space. when we can have a cheap mortar, a cheap drone, combine all this with the help of a conditional sterling into a single information network and perform the tasks that previously could only be performed by a very expensive and complex platform . as an ordinary digital map has now outgrown and it has outgrown the sos army - it is already such a project, let's say it is multifaceted and many teams are even

developing it and even i can't know about everything and not that there is anything to say there, of course, but this is an example of this modern transition in the understanding of war against the enemy, of course, we may not know everything, but we can see messages there on telegram channels from the hacker community, even from officials and some people who note the success of ukrainian it-systems like nettles delta of other systems, perhaps , which are not so familiar and are trying to copy and clone it, for example, not so long ago it became known that wagner conducts hackathons on the topic of which

we had there several years ago, certain there is a common advantage and they are trying to gain access and oppose it in cyberspace. so, we can say that we are a little ahead in this regard. well, this information is confidential and closed, but i can say that it is tens of thousands of uh, it belongs, thank you for this inclusion, ah, considering your download and knows where you are now, so good luck to you and our i will remind the viewers that oleg, the head of research projects of the army, was on the air of the espresso channel. this team is known for the fact that it is currently developing such digital projects that

ensure the improvement of the efficiency of our units, and in particular, the group one is such a vivid example of exactly such technological solutions that are ahead of the enemy's army. because we are now talking about finding options when due to a smaller number of artillery tanks on the battlefield, but due to more effective control systems, it is possible to achieve victories on the battlefield, which is actually demonstrated by the ukrainian army, although, of course, we also need an increase in the number of weapons. and now we have serhiy chepel on the phone - he is the managing partner of the radio sadkom group company, which is the representative of the eltriharvis company in ukraine. sergey, i congratulate you congratulations. and here i would like to ask, on the one hand, first about such a situation and which concerns your analysis of the enemy's actions on the

battlefield. i took to us the communication systems used by the enemy. briefly, what threats are behind the enemy ? for our communication system, what are the main trends that now affect the nature of hostilities and the most effective use of our units, well, look, i do not consider myself an expert in the field, so to speak, operationally managing troops and so on, but i can say that the enemy is at least in the elite units have modern means of communication, it is clear that they are inferior to those that we are currently trying to carry with the troops, but i would note the activity and, unfortunately, the effectiveness of the electronic warfare systems that are used the enemy does not use these systems in order to

watch our channels and communication systems at the tactical and operational level, as well as in order to fight drones, this segment of theirs works quite well, although recently our aviation successfully destroys these systems well, it is clear that if we talk about our side, now there is an active saturation of the troops of the mykhailis radio station . unfortunately, we always want more. this

if we move, the effectiveness of combat control will be at the level and it is much higher even now, why the russians in general, but we believe and hope for that and there are already examples of the most effective application of our systems, which says that we are moving in the right direction, the right general things but something i am detailing with my mind, they say when they mention american aid, everyone is talking about a request, they are talking about javelins, they are talking about stingers, but actually american companies, in particular eltriharest, are such a large and powerful supplier it is harris radio stations for the ukrainian army , it is harris radio stations, in view of combat experience , they demonstrate that the russian rap that you mentioned cannot suppress the work of these radio stations, that is exactly why they are supplied there

. that actually the newest models of harris radio stations come to us and sometimes the american army does not have those models that are already used by our special operations forces, so tell me about that why it is impossible to suppress the harris radio station there , and is it difficult to master the type of weapons that today is considered the most technological on the world market, well, look, i would not like to paint a rosy picture because, in principle, it is possible to suppress any network, it is a question of payment -e is carried by the enemy himself, and at the same time, eh, his networks may even fail. but really, the harius radio stations have such modes , especially this applies. well, in principle, this also applies to

short-wave and eh many-band stations which in principle allow, and we have such examples and to avoid suppressing the tactical network, this is a matter of qualified use of the radio station , that is why these radio stations are supplied not only to the types of military councils you mentioned noses and e-e marine corps they were saturated in the first place and e-e these for these directions for these types of armed forces e-e well the question of the effectiveness of using the radio station it occupies the smallest space because there are many enough has already been formed, so gurus at the level of

battalion brigades who know how to use the station and are able to set up a tactical network corresponding to the specifics of this unit will quickly end because, in view of the air, well, the alarm, our program has somewhat decreased in volume, we we will return to this topic. thank you for your inclusion, and i would like to remind our viewers that serhiy chepel, managing partner of radio setkom group, which is a partner of eltriharis, which supplies powerful and protected radio stations for the armed forces of ukraine. so, if we sum up the inclusion of our guests, we can understand that it is the digital component of the ukrainian army that ensures a significant increase in the efficiency of the use of units on the battlefield , and this direction is one of the priorities for the further development of the ukrainian army. and today and

tomorrow we will follow according to these qualitative changes and the most vivid details of this strengthening, we will er-e arrange in the format of just conversations with those people who exactly provide those qualitative changes to me my name is serhii zgorytskyi, the director of the defense express company, who conducted this military program, and later on the espresso channel will be olga leni with her program chronicling the information war. congratulations, now i will tell you about the incredible story of the search for the missing girl, and this story, which ultimately ended with a happy ending, once again proves that thanks to our with your joint efforts, it is really possible to find missing boys and girls. so we are talking about seventeen-year-old nastya okopova, who was found after a long seven-month search, we are actually very

we are happy that now we can say for sure that nastya has been found and everything is fine with her, moreover, the girl sent us a video confirming that she is alive and well and is already at home with her parents, everything is fine with me i am alive and well, my family and i have been alive for like a month we came home to our home in our hometown raisin, which cannot help but make the whole house happy. thank god, but this cannot be said about the city. walking through the streets, you can immediately see that the place was badly affected by the war, and it is no longer the place where we lived for seven months. i told you about how the search for the girl was going and i will remind you that nastya disappeared at the beginning of april in izyum, kharkiv region, when there were heavy battles, at the same time the connection with the girl was cut off about her fate