time here we are talking, if anyone has this reality of war is that you hope for a quick end to this long exhausting and bloody conflict that will require huge economic, social and human sacrifices, it is also a war in which the annexation of the territory of ukraine to the russian federation is clear and the aggressor is not more and not less and the expulsion of all those who do not want to obey it and destroyed i do not understand what else you expect from russia how calm and methodical i think how many people to expel from here and destroy the number of millions of people, but there is one more example, after vitaly, listen, if she fought for it for 300 more than 300 years, what do you think . she will be gone for 300 years in a year, yes, this country of permanent bans, concentration camps, famines, anything , language objections, cultural objections, and then

ukrainians they all came out so handsome in helmets. and in a year, the aps is gone. it’s just that there is another underestimation of the enemy. by the way, in addition to the general’s interview, there is also an interview with the general of the syrian issue, who clearly said that if you underestimate russia, then you you lose it all the time, i say you all the time try to pretend that putin is such a clown yes, such a fool well, of course, his pulse is wrong, and our happiness, if he was not mistaken, he underestimates the political situation, he does not understand what the ukrainian people are, but he definitely understands what the thirst for destruction, there are huge economic resources, the most important thing that ukrainians cannot understand about the russians is a sincere desire to seize foreign lands as a nation, and ukrainian lands were under this and not the other way around, belarusian lands were under russia and not the other way around, if other peoples had such a desire. the russians were not part of their states. on the contrary, these are the instincts of an imperial nation

that speaks for its greatness for someone else's territory. foreign land, which is not clear here, and of course general zaluzhnyi talks about how difficult it is to defeat such a strong, self-confident, ideologically oriented enemy, you see month after month the russians support putin, i already i'm not talking about the fact that they supported him when there was a annexation of crimea, well, what else can i say? well, listen, i 'll just tell you something else, but everyone saw when putin used champagne to say that they and their officers and the officers' wives and the entire entourage and all 140 million well, cape 139, who will find it easier, what's the difference, yes, they are absolutely honest, he was absolutely because he was drunk and honest, they

shot at our bridge, they don't have the right to shoot at the bridge we built, we have the right to shoot anywhere. this it was just him he said this and everyone nodded their heads and he smiled oh this is a beautiful russian language that we can shoot for nine months to go anywhere we want from the east from xiangu home because we are gentlemen because we are russian and you bitches damaged our bridge that we are so with such and such let's build bastards well, that's all, there are no questions, you go to any under the gate of the russian federation, in any place, say to serve. well, you, sir, shoot, but what we have, we do not shoot and defend. yes, you are not, we have to and you are not. you do not owe anything to any sensation. i am all the time

i say, i say the one who keeps us busy for a long time is a serious worker, the one who realizes that war times are ahead, not days, not months, times, it could be a conflict like the middle eastern life, generations will pass in conflicts. and by the way, if oh well, then we should pack our bags and go to europe who said that you will be elected there who told you this conflict at any time can be on a scale of completely different territories security territories i will tell you where you can go to willington in china while china came from australia you are there you will live in the forest of new zealand, you can calm down and calmly look for yourself, you will have to move from place to place, look for a place, come to the grid. this is normal life, and this is how

the life of millions of people, not only ukrainians, will be arranged; moreover, as soon as ukrainians go to europe, they will appear there the russians, because we will go naked here , there will be a no-man's land, a russian will come here, and already on the border with romania and hungary, which now wants to somehow look so good to leave poland, and so on and the second moment is very important, i will not to give examples, even though gal hinted that examples are possible, but keep in mind the huge number of duels, precisely with russia, ukraine lost because of that because of that because a year has passed, everyone thinks, well, a year of popayum then well, then the second year ends, the third arises, despair apathy hands drop eight years and so on and so on. and they still have this potential. we are the empire. we have

the khokhlovnik . we are enduring a blackout from the light, there is nothing, but a year, or two, or three, well, even before 20, after the second year, and we are tired of the war, we must end it as soon as possible, and we cannot end it. as they say, we must agree, but we cannot agree, our people are already tired of such life and such a life to be continued and it was before the war, don’t get tired of the tired and sleepy, they kill at night and russia and during the day, and who lived somewhere, the cancellation of putin’s annual address to the federal assembly, the annual press conference, it’s not for nothing that he is so he is afraid of the journalists' questions, which are tame, don't be afraid, oh, don't be afraid, i think you just don't have anything to say in the detailed plan, he speaks at a meeting, says something, and a big press conference is a format when you need

to give a lot of optimistic signals, it's grandfather frost, oh, that's how we have it it's great and so we have great and so great and so great and there is nothing wonderful and there is one more reason, well, a billion reasons, but in italy he said emphatically the most important, perhaps, but i see there is also a very tactical reason, and i think that intelligence and the military says, imagine the picture, we see that the signals are already going through, the russians do not go out on the streets, but they already know much more today about the failures of their own army than it was there, let's say in march or april or may, and imagine that putin is standing handsome, and since russians are vile people yes, they are vile so they expect vileness from ukrainians and maybe i will wait by the way, here i would not throw it in the trash and here suddenly some ukrainian rocket flies up i am not saying to moscow i am not saying somewhere there but somewhere there where it hurts the russians

and at this time we have a press conference, everything is fine , but you people leave the conference and it turns out that not everything is fine, or yesterday, tomorrow, the press conference was scheduled, and just the day before that, the ukrainian army did something wrong somewhere on the territory of the russian federation, and then well putin looks strange, and putin won't talk about it, he can't say a single one in ryazan, we had an explosion there, i don't know, two factories of some kind for the production of something military. these hokhly will be launched there something american, for example. well, we ourselves do n’t know how to do anything, that’s it. she’s married, everyone is fighting, and the weapons are nato weapons, and in general, propaganda and propaganda, that’s why there are a huge number of moments, and there is one more moment

. he asks something wrong, it can't be i don't believe i believe i always believe that there are some absolutely absurd things there is a famous photo when all the hitlers just stand like that and then they made an enlargement you must have seen it 100 times i even the nicknames here are the shots mykola on all russian tv channels yes, and there you can see that a huge number of people hitler is speaking, everyone is shouting kyle and one is standing like that and does not show anything and does not raise his hand and his mouth is closed and not open therefore you have to believe people i believe people russians are definitely not to be trusted but maybe there will be at least one although i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know it's me now let me say two words in case you happen to watch the film 1970s it's a polish film about polish events

in 802 it's the soviet union it was there firmly the polish workers' party is the port the polish united workers' party something like that there in short everything was fine how did the soviet union lose the kgb and people came out and you can see hundreds of thousands in gdańsk from this lech walesa began and the victory of the democrats as a result in the 70th year they all came out as one, a huge number of children, wives, sons, workers of these factories, uh, came out with protests because there was nothing to eat, to make it shorter, the problems were huge . look, it's black and white, it's just in the background, uh, they found the politburo negotiations on the phone, and

in the background they just superimposed the speeches of the workers, the speeches - shooting across the street, and hello. and the division, what do you think? well, they should shoot. yes, not yet. well, that's it. why are you translating polish into russian? i want to understand it, it’s just not a foreign language , it doesn’t matter. although rozirskyi is a good hall, you understand russian, and so do all the members of the politburozelskyi. he was separate. separately, his language was excellent. i think he doesn’t speak polish. knows how much he knows russian. in short, when i look at today's russians, i say, well, look, the 70s are full of dependence on the soviet union. there are russian soviet troops in poland, and people left, and when they tell me now, oh, we will be imprisoned. i remember. on the side, he told me that in 1981 they were putting up

leaflets, and someone was detained on the side, they were not detained, so he just took the bus, got back, got on the bus, made three stops and got out, what can i say, yes , and how he pasted up all the leaflets, this is, well, this is for dissidents were a normal state of affairs and in russia dissident dissident well, how many people are there 5-7-10 people who really sit and who really said yes we will sacrifice ourselves for the sake of some kind of democracy there although it is also so dubious come on what else are there europeans approved dev th package of sanctions against russia why the effectiveness of these sanctions is so intangible and remote in part how many such packages are needed for the russian economy to finally really feel it olga my answer to you is this i will like it i can tell right away do you understand when imagine that the ninth package will be

more than the first second third fourth fourth fifth sixth seventh well, it is definitely not worth it, the number of blows is already such on the russian economy that well, in the future it will be less and less and less and less this is the first second olya olya economy cannot be destroyed , any north korea can imagine the economy of a market economy, well, it is impossible, because any normal economist, if he has not dealt with the north, will bring the numbers, show how it functions, say no, this will not happen, because it is not it may never be venezuela is already twisted so much, but it functions because of all the thoughts that the collapse of russia may come from the economic side is

unlikely, especially these russians whom we see well, okay, tomorrow here's a piece of bread for you, here's a piece of cheese for you i'm not talking about sausage and something in i have the impression that russia thank you comrade putin for our happy childhood when they said why we support putin because we launched we have never lived so well and it is a fact that there has never been such an economic level in russia as during putin's time in the history of the whole russia is the same as under putin. people never lived and the level of pension provision and social insurance and the products of the trip, and we began to see on these tourist trips not only people from moscow and st. petersburg, but somewhere in siberia, not only in egypt, for a pension that then amounted to 1000- 12 well, everyone had a large enough layer of $1,200, people went to bulgaria for a short time and

lived a wonderful life, simply doing nothing, living abroad in a country of the european union, having thousands, what could be understood and what is happening now, why these people continue to treat putin in exactly the same way when they live like shit. i apologize. that's why this moment of waiting. that something will happen and it will end . they won't fly on airplanes, they won't ride on trains. they will find old trains, smelly, dirty, dirty. you might think that those poles are now there, but there they are. well, sometimes they show some beautiful russian railways written in beautiful letters, they will live normally like a sausage, there will be no sausage, but there will be potatoes, bread, vegetables, some vermicelli and a beautiful life, just chinese cars, by the way, someone will have them for the first six months. then they won’t break again. well, in short,

don’t think that the economy can be destroyed. the economy, by the very fact of its existence, cannot be destroyed. there may be a systemic crisis at some point. the question is who, well, then it’s already when, but it has fall somewhere in one place, but we already remember and remember the collapse of the soviet union and the main conclusion i made then that this is a house of cards not because the shape of things but because remove the collective farms everything falls, remove the ideologues everything it is falling, give freedom of speech, everything is falling, give elections . someone at the factories of the directors has fallen, that is, it was formulated like this, that somewhere, so that you are cleaning up , the whole structure is falling, how now, i don’t know, because all smart economists say that as long as there are at least market elements, how is it -e elements, in fact , it is impossible to destroy the economy, and what is its name, it is

venezuela, or if there is a complete lack of private property, like north korea, it cannot be destroyed either, there is a senator, in the near future they are going to officially appeal to the russian federation with a call to withdraw troops from ukraine and stop hostilities. do you think the declaration will have any significance and is such an official statement not late? nothing, no one, nothing, i have the impression that there are some vitaliy will express their opinion. i have the impression that there is some kind of signal system. we will judge the path. we will pursue putin . now there is some kind of appeal, that is, i have the impression that some significant events began in december, which give some signals that we are, but i am impressed that this is just a signal. we are not kidding when macron says that we will judge

these are some signs, i don't know what signs, i can't say it's late, i don't think it's late, this is how the development of any situation always occurs, as churchill said in the 40th year when the second world war began, but the soviets still came and he was asked how do you manage to negotiate with the americans? well, cherche didn't say, but ice first for britain, because it was i who conquered the soviets. how do you work with these americans? he has a famous phrase like must be trusted to americans americans always make a very right choice after they make all the wrong ones that's how it is now yes we can be friends with russia yes yes yes yes and then then it comes gradually not very quickly what listen there is the problem

now glory they want to recognize and this is the fundamental difference between european culture and values ​​and russian. because europeans, even when making mistakes, say yes, we won't say this word, we're wrong, we're screwed . i believe that everything is going as it should go, it will not work out, and then we will talk about the fact that whether the application was late or whether it will have, it means of course that russia will not take anyone anywhere , that is also clear. of all these accusations. yes, we appealed on december 13th or december 21st. you offered such an option, such an option, that is, they would legally surround the russian

federation on all sides so that in the event of any serious conversation about the consequences of the war, we would say listen to us we did everything we could, we did that, so we warned here, we said here, we suggested, let's take it out, did you have at least one answer , no, yes, we are ready, consul, there was no consultation, what do you want from us to go to prison, it's me dreams come true. how do you feel about the initiative to ban scientists from referring to russian sources? it is a very difficult question, but it is less difficult than, for example, 20 or 30 years ago, when it was said that russian science is real because the sources, if we say humanitarian profile is one thing, but if we say a reference to landau, who, by the way, was born in kharkiv, but mostly lived in moscow, a nobel laureate, i'm sorry, but what will you do? well, if he

really has a nobel prize, then he has some discovery that is absolutely unique to the humanitarian plane i agree here. my wife works as a teacher at the university and she says a lot about the teachers and not about the children. she sees that they do not refer to it, they do not refer to it, they do not say it is there that we took it from st. petersburg university, but she knows as a specialist and they say that there are a lot of really russian narratives, but you understand that there are such things as art, science and science and art, they are universal, you cannot cut off russian science from the world simply it is smaller in scope and there are fewer nobel laureates yes, but there are by the way, i think his name is also prigozhin, a nobel laureate , his last name is prigozhin, you see, and he is an absolute

physicist, very brilliant, his parents took him to their knows when he worked in the belgians and in american universities have nothing to do with today's russian federation, the nobel laureate has very interesting works in the field of humanitarianism oh and yes oh, well, he is such that he also looks like he has russian blood because of his blood, why can't that be the same i am absolutely convinced in 100 years they will also perform tchaikovsky and read chekhov or 100 maybe someone will succeed in 50 but when it is really a world treasure as i cited landau it is not it is not a russian scientist it is a world scientist yes and the same chekhov is not not russian writer eh. and this is a world heritage. therefore, we must always be careful here, at least in the humanitarian

sphere. i agree that there are huge problems there today, all these textbooks, all the works, they are absolutely imperial. they were imperial yesterday, the day before yesterday, they were imperial. and today they are new persians . the short period of semi-imperialism in the 90s is over and now nothing can be done to me, the humanitarian sphere is huge, you always have the right to choose in it, conditionally speaking you do not want to get acquainted with russian culture i i don't want everything because after all this you are tired of it, are you watching chekhov's play, relatively speaking, i am playing from the list of rachmaninoff, bach, beethoven , mozart, schubert, or do you just live without it? it seems to the russians that without it, i have it possible. well, it is obvious that yes, i love rahmanin, but i know very well that i can live without rahmanin, come on and listen, relatively speaking, to a lot of other

composers, see other artists. i love levitan. i have never seen levitan, but i will see other artists. rubens van dyck. where am i? things, now i saw a religious man, where are you, the russian museum that i have to go through, through the fsb of russia, yes, these are all very conventional things, but if you do not know about the discoveries of physics, who of who made them, pchilka or landau or werner von braun, without a doubt , nothing you will not be able to go further because science does not depend on political beliefs, not on crimes, even stalin had to create barriers for scientists because otherwise it all does not work and it is absolutely obvious that ukrainian science, so to speak, is just a part of the world like any science, any physics, any chemistry is another matter that in authoritarian countries the sciences develop worse than in democratic ones because there is also no competition there, there is svobody, there is

the director of the lysenko institute, he is in velika agraria , all the rest are in prison as the academician was shot babila so why is bach a million or something? academician sahara is speaking badly about the soviet union. you will do physics. by the way, about physics. this is me, by the way, but i wanted to say it. thank god we got into this science. thank you for the composition of the question. on the fourth or fifth of december this year, this is a truly world-historical moment and one that humanity still does not suspect. well, what part suspects that controlled thermonuclear fusion was achieved in america until now, never achieved this year . what can i say frankly? i myself am not a big physicist .

everyone is afraid, we are worried about the war zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant. the amount of energy, we are now thinking, oh, there is no light, the batteries are cold, this will never happen again . to the english awards because they were the first to achieve what they got a plus, that is, at the entrance there was such energy and at the exit, it was twice as much, which means

that they are on the wrong path, but it must be said that it is not risky, it is not this safe energy of atomic energy, it cannot cause accidents because well , they are controlled by controlled thermonuclear fusion, as they once said in the movies, there were 9 days of one year, you remember they tried because they tried to do all this, so keep in mind this september, this december is very, very successful for world science is trying all the time to explain to putin the necessary minister lensia on rennes-romod he says that we have completely different tasks, what are you even doing, you are a fool fighting in the neighbor when here we have completely different tasks that need to be solved by humanity we went on a completely different path, the whole problem by the way which we discussed here for an hour and a half is the fact that we are dealing with an absolutely archaic and chronic state that you want to be as i am and not as it should be and as

it was, we were in 1673 or 1892 something like that and there was a building there. we dictated everything to everyone. well, maybe 1945, yes, the 45th is a wonderful time. we say goodbye. say goodbye for me. i raised you well, ladies and gentlemen. on behalf of and on behalf of vitaly portnikova and mykola veresni, we say goodbye . for a week. thank you for everything. let's listen to people who suffer from rheumatism. it 's arthritic, it's impossible to get used to it, it doesn't allow

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