at the moment when they are turned on or off , large voltage surges can occur, they directly affect the operation of your equipment that is plugged into the sockets at this moment, it directly affects the operation. more precisely, how much will your indoor networks withstand such voltage surges, this is also a big question because how to protect yourself from, god forbid, a fire or breakdown of your own equipment, you need to take care of the voltage relay; additionally, you can install voltage stabilizers, for example, even on separate devices for separate equipment and a differentiated wing of protection are those devices that will simply save your wiring from catching fire in the event of large voltage surges, they will simply smooth out these surges and give the opportunity to also protect your equipment from damage, this is important ms. yulia, but all kinds of relays

and stabilizers are also money, is it possible to just turn it off when the light goes out, wait for the light to come on, turn on the light, then reconnect the devices, i would like to ask you briefly. can this be a way out if people do not have the money to buy some additional devices that should balance these jumps if you don’t have time to do it, they may simply not have time to pull it out of the socket . the day when mass shelling took place and i would like to note that at that particular time it did not apply to the kyiv energy infrastructure, i.e. when there is an imbalance in the topic , every consumer in as for the advice to ukraine, after all, we

are faced with it every day for a certain period of time and we see that the distribution system operator follows this schedule in principle, then you can buy a so-called relay socket there, well, maybe 250, now they have become more expensive, maybe 300 uah, they sell it to a supermarket there and programmed this outlet for an hour when the voltage will be unavailable for this particular device, this is how you can protect yourself, thank you for your advice, thank you for the conversation, yuliya lutsenko, energy expert, head of the all-ukrainian agency of investments and sustainable development was with us and she helped a little to understand about generators and how to protect your electrical appliances at home from voltage jumps. this marathon espresso continues and stay with us, we will continue our conversation. let's see how

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we are working in this studio for you listen for now you know now we will be experts serhii fursa institutional bankers vasyl furman doctor of economics let's talk a little about some important economic things well for now for now you know what i know with a person with a philosophical education somehow it turned out like this er, when and by chance, and sometimes they look at what the main russian philosophers themselves write there, among whom there is no such dugin, do you remember that his daughter died somewhere recently, there were some a terrorist attack, as if they wanted to blow it up, it is not known what, in other words, such an ideologue of russian fascism, here he wrote here. here he seems to be concerned about the fact that zhukov's methods of war are zhukov's and women are no longer giving birth. well, you understand this problem, and here he seems to be writing to solve russia 's demographic problem it is too easy to move from modernity to tradition at one stroke, well, it means to move to the time of ivan the terrible and all the cities will

immediately be settled on the earth, russia will all be like from the city to the earth, strong orthodox families with a lot of raps, divorces, not that abortions will be prohibited, they will not be allowed, and everything is married, be good and live until death, before you had to think of the fallacy of the bonfire for stealing, hanging for blasphemy against the tsar . there is no end, and i am a cow, there is something over there. tralyalya fucks the strained snoring of a plowman and the snoring of a stately, well-fed horse. the pungent smell of steamed milk in the fog . the king so that everyone would be happy and calm, bold and

cheerful for this . you all know that according to the legend, king herod wanted to kill the little jesus who was born and it was there that he was hidden from the little bats in that barn, and jesus was hidden only in the arc. herod was good, there were no bees, there was no water, there was bread and a bull, and the second one, so that on on bread and in water, the woman went they expose everyone to the fire, the king is needed. here is a short summary of the achievement of russian philosophical philosophical thought, that is, everyone will be mobilized, sent to war in ukraine, from whom the women should give birth to the lord, and they will be forced, there will be a plan of two, two children in one

year. well, in a word, of course you read this and think, my god, this person is really considered to be an ideologue of the russian world. what kind of ideologue is emir? the impression is that the person simply, i don't know, has taken some kind of haloperidol, there might be a problem for us i've had enough of bad russian, yes, sergey , the truck for the investment banker is already with us by phone, mr. sergey. good day, can you hear us, because we can't hear you for something, oh, great, mr. sergey, yes, no, i want, i don't want to sell, no, of course. does mr. serhiy really want to comment on something about the storm?

and i basically wanted to say that we talked recently on the topic of the economy with ms. olena bilan, and now she said that it was not her opinion, in fact, in the first days of the war, the ukrainian economy was saved thanks to lightning the reaction of the national bank of ukraine, here she reminds that at 9:00 a.m., that is, a few hours after the missile attacks, literally a couple of hours later there was already a decision about freezing there, er, there, withdrawing this er, money there, about establishing a fixed exchange rate there and so on, it all preserved trust and saved the banking system, and everything continued to work, and this. well, if the key to keeping the economy going does not turn into a crisis , what do you think about it? and here, the russians

instead, the russians claim exactly what the banking system should become a kind of main target of future attacks, because they also saw that this is the basis of the stability of the ukrainian economy, well, look, first of all, they were absolutely right. the national bank played a key role in preserving macro-financial stability. we did much better than this the country than could be expected due to the fact that the national bank had a plan b, they developed this plan b completely in the event that there is no electricity and this means that this means that the connection may also disappear or let's let's just add that vasyl furman, doctor of economic sciences, mr.

serhiy dolucinu, mr. vasylovich, are you with us already? good day. glory to ukraine. is the connection good ? can ukrainian banks become the objects of powerful cyber attacks? yes can the russians also try to shut down the ukrainian banking system yes they are trying to shut off our electricity all this time well look at this topic now well there are really a lot of myths and we have to be frank if we are talking about cyber attacks then it is them there were a lot of them before the great war. we remember , by the way, the virus can sing, if you just remember the time when it caused a lot of damage to the banking system, ukrainian enterprises, what our enemy did, and therefore pre-virus attacks to attacks from the air i think that the financial sphere is ready even yesterday after the big attack on ukraine, the city of

kyiv in general flew a lot of rockets and after i conceded with many banks i specifically recruited there were other questions related to crediting , i was interested in what it was called and a question was asked so, in general, the banks work in full-time mode , yes, in the event of a burnout, the national bank has , together with the banks, a plan for uninterrupted operation, this is the first , second, there is a headquarters. by the way, to ensure the uninterrupted operation of the banks, the system is headed by the deputy chairman of the national bank and third , meetings are held every sunday with systemically important banks, e.e., with the leadership of the national bank, where the central issue of the problem is determined, the search for ways to solve them is determined, and 1,000 branches of systemically important banks are identified, which should be sown in the conditions blockade, and it still wanted to start with a system of important banks. and there is also a smaller, smaller bank of cinema

, that is, a system of 14 important banks with us, and other banks also provide their branches with generators and, er, let’s say that with starlinks, by the way, well, there was a meeting there yesterday. well what i read privatbank supervisory board approved the purchase of e-e privatbank we still have 600 sperlinks because on the one hand electricity is a generator on the other hand we need a connection of sisters link that's why you are myths that we sometimes hear from some warlords or there state officials of our enemy, they are just myths for their audience, and nothing more , that is, the national bank, together with the banking system, has reliably maintained financial defense since the first days of the war, and i think that each of us feels it today, we work 24 /7 and the funds of

ukrainian citizens in currency in the ukrainian hryvnia increased by more than 37% during the war. by the way, business is also increasing its funds in the banking system. the verkhovna rada adopted a law that 100% guarantees the deposits or funds of ukrainian citizens in to the banking system independence from the amount of deposits , therefore, i am sure that in case of any development of events and we will withstand blows, we will be reliable financial defense, this is the first, second, extremely important task facing today's pre-banks as a whole, in addition to those problematic issues, bedsores there with impiels to capitalization and so further it is clear how today banks can take part in the activation of lending, i.e. in the revival of our economy, this is actually a very important task because we already have to think about these things, that is, because, god willing,

the active phase of the war will end there next year, i will express my point of view a little because a lot of people listen and think about this topic, that is, i would really like for us to move to such an active phase of rebuilding our post-war economy next year mr. vasylivna, please tell me about ukraine, now, during the war of a full-scale invasion, it has recorded a record amount of tax payments. well, i told you before that, and i will just repeat that the deposits of citizens during the war period in the banking system. that is, these are funds on demand and the deposits have increased by 37% in total compared to 24.02, that is, when the great war against our state began, people trust today,

the banking system can be discussed. well, for example, there is an increase in salary terms. they have not increased so actively. but at the same time, the national bank is taking appropriate measures. well, what measures that is, in short, even you are the last decision when we increased the reserve norms for funds on demand, that is, on some current accounts , that is, they will encourage banks today to work with customers so that they place more funds specifically on deposits because it is extremely , very important with these funds in the future, it is possible to lend more to our economy. business also trusts banks, and that is why the state supported business, that is, there is a state exercise 57-9, within the framework of which 16,600 borrowers during the war period received loans and within the framework of exercise 5 7 9 i.e. for a total amount of about 70 billion uah, that is why it is us, it is very

important because the banks are very conservative during the war, they can also be understood, but the state is simply fulfilling its role here, and it is very good that it is introducing such programs, it’s great, he’s already back to us. sergey, we welcome you once again to our channel. yes, congratulations. i don’t know at what point i disappeared from you, but basically, we talked about the fact that the national bank really had a plan b, they launched it on february 24, and it played an important role in preservation of macro-financial stability, that is why the national bank worked for five and here we saw that why was the reform of the banking system done at all in the 15th year in the 15th 16th exactly thanks to this reform thanks to the cleaning of the banking system thanks to the fact that the national bank is already a normal regulator and for the fact that it is not clear what happened, we are going through this crisis not very well, uh, and i also fully

support sergey's words, and i can say that even on the eve of the great war, we discussed, well, the board of the national bank, that is, with the board of the board told exactly about this plan b and exactly er. these are the actions of the board of the national bank for the first time in the hours of war, that is, not just there at 9:00 in the morning there. macroeconomic stability , the stability of the ukrainian hryvnia, the stability of the banking system, that is, it is clear that the reforms were carried out for 8 years, complex reforms were carried out, there was a lot of criticism during this period of time. well, especially in the 15th and 16th years, you remember, but today we we can see that these were the right decisions, ah, a professional decision of the board of the national bank of ukraine, here it is interesting, also cool shaltimes wrote that before the

war, russian bankers were the head of the russian national bank because the national bank what is the correct name of him there? well, in principle, all these national banks are wrong. our counter- banks are called in russia the center of the bank and also the head of the shopping center elvira nabiulina as well as german gretz - this is the head of oschadbank, that is, sberbank of russia, they allegedly met with putin and tried to refuse to even simply recognize the lpr of the dpr, they did not understand that in reality he was preparing a war. also, they seemed to be terribly shocked when this war began and they told putin that if they even simply recognized the lpr of the dpr, it would mean a 35% drop in gdp there in two years, because very strong sectoral sanctions will be introduced, what will be, well, there will be huge problems in it that will be pushed back for decades, but nevertheless,

almost a year has already passed and we see that the sanctions have not yet led to the results that bigulina and uh, this count voiced how did it happen or does this mean that we constantly raise the question that sanctions are not effective enough? can we hope that if russia can impose this war of attrition, what is this about, i understand that this is now a plan without putin himself, which he does not hide at the moment. but this whole war of attrition will first of all exhaust the russian federation itself, it does not have the resources for this. here are your thoughts. let 's start with mr. well, this time with mr. serhiy look yes, he putin was collecting a fucking bullin, what will be the effect of sanctions, they told, for example, the same time, but from the first day as soon as the war began, unfortunately, unfortunately, they took a position about putin and helped fight the effect

of sanctions, and it should be noted that moral qualities they are so-so, but they are good professionals and because of the fact that they are good professionals, they were able to soften the effect of sanctions on russia, and instead of an immediate shock, we got a slide by russia, this primitization, the degradation of the economy. so they are not against war, they simply speaking professionally, what will he say, call , make a survey 25, can putin lie measures, he, she, exhaustion well, here it is difficult for him to do anything, because it is simply to carry inserted economic burdens, measures and russia. if we were exclusively ukraine against exclusively russia, of course russia will be in a dominant position, but for the first time of the united states is 10 times more or even more than you first and here he simply physically cannot compete, so he loses in perspective and here we can look, for example

, given the gdp and the frame is now less than the supported one and in 40 years ago when sanctions began to be imposed, for 40 years the world grew several times over 40 years, developing countries sometimes increased their gdp 10 times, and iran is lower than it was then. this is the fate that awaits russia in the long term, with such a fate, you can not impose a war on someone lys mr. vasyl well, your summaries of the sanctions are fine. i'll add just a few a-a after elvira nabiulina and gre v herman reported, it's real. we just want it to be faster, but the sanctions are gradually hitting the russian economy and it will eventually well, it's hard to say here. well, 10 to 20 years ago, it will be a low-tech economy, as it was once called in america, and is still called a gas station. this is the first, second, if you look at their economy, the

central bank was bent by the russian federation. the fourth quarter of the russian economy is falling. minus seven percent in the second and third quarter of this year -4% we see that the decline is worsening in russian it becomes more difficult if we look at the e-e consider the trade it fell during these months of this year minus 10%. e tax revenues from corporations except oil and gas corporations of the russian federation minus 20%. that's why the sanctions are clearly hitting the russian economy. it's important to ask another question. another question is the control over the implementation of the sanctions, because today we are observing that the russian economy is trying to use illegal means. well , pay attention already to make parallel imports , e. electronic, that is , he financed there, well, that is, today they are doing it, and it is an extremely important task for ukraine today of our european and american partners

to build such a system of monitoring the implementation of sanctions so that they are carried out 100%, that there was not a single chance to circumvent them and to adopt such legislation that would give the opportunity to those people, those comparisons, who will still violate it, to bear criminal or huge financial responsibility of the enemy must be punished for the illegal actions that we are taking against our state today, well, thank you, mr. serhiy fursm, investment banker vasyl furman, doctor of economic sciences, were with us, let's talk a little later about uh, where are ukrainians going to spend their new year's christmas budget, what are they going to lose on gifts or, after all, on donations for the armed forces, but a little bit of news from russia with the word uh, the kremlin instructed state companies to find positive information sources in order to at some

events which will be positive, vladimir putin appeared because, well, his rating, so to speak, in all kinds of television events is starting to fall, now they have to make a list of this positive positive, in which vladimir putin should be present, where will to tell how cool he is. that's how recently putin participated in the launch of the center for the reproduction of turkeys and repaired roads by video link. he also congratulated the employees of the carpathian corporation on their anniversaries. the growth of the atom and the growth is like this. that's how turkeys are grown. i don't know why they grow it. i wonder what's there . jerking off is happening on the space station mir russian you know what's there the day before yesterday there was a leak there was an automation happening and yesterday there were reports that they have on this ship

in fact there is one woman in those cosmonauts there by the way and two men, that is, even though they are russians, they are still people, of course. and so anyway, well, if it were possible, their lives could be under threat in russia. they are silent and deny everything . already degrees, well, the main thing is that there are difficult conditions, but this is also the same story that russia said, we don't need the international space station, we can launch our cosmonauts into space, they launched hmm, they could not go into space for one and a half months in fact, they should not have gone out to open space, to repair something there, to repair something there, for a month and a half, they can’t go out because the spacesuits let air in. they sew, they cannot sew a spacesuit in a normal human way, and now the problem has also been depressurized . what's wrong with them they are there, those cosmonauts poverty are now catching the signal espresso that at least here is something to learn about what awaits them in the near

future what awaits them in our chat here just among themselves where is the best place to live, you tell what is the best place to live in russia well, it’s probably better for them to live there, take those military men of yours to you, let them live there and they don’t behave from there. come to us, the space state is already in the past for russia, i don’t know if they still have cosmonauts after that, who will still fly if the three of them will return. well, god forbid that they certainly returned, we don’t want you to know the evil of this. well , i think that’s what they’re saying. listen, guys . don’t fly there, because first of all, the temperature is 50° there all the time. state is an epithet. it suits her more on the direct meaning of the word cosmic. and in we transfer the meaning of the word people, cosmonauts. they live their parallel reality. they read it in the arcs on theirs, too, that's all. in principle , you can make a diagnosis right away, well, you know, paranoia , and there. what else is schizophrenia, a whole bunch at once? and what

, gentlemen ? in the meantime, he just answers whether there is uh, again, i so suspect that this is a kremlin bot, i looked around here in the taras costume, which appears in one of the computer games uh, which are very popular in the world now. the character appeared his name is marichka, and the second one is the character taras. he saw a st. george ribbon somewhere on his suit. i took it, turned it off, er, took a freeze frame from this video, now i’ll try to show it, er, it looked in every way, where are the er colors of this st. george ribbon ? well, all i saw in taras's suit is an embroidered shirt, well, it's clearly visible there, if you zoom in on this photo, there are szgards, and these are hanging on the corals, there are

burgundy trousers, there are some through the belt, but i don't see any orange-black colors there. some such overlays, there is a trail with ukrainian ornaments, he has kobza, while there is marichka, the second character, and a cash register of the ukrainian flag with blue and yellow ribbons, the person didn’t see that it was just ukrainian symbols, and that suddenly there is a cossack, this is just super cool. here he is well, look what a cool nine here, i saw some york tapes in him, well, you know, this one is like that. and it reminded me of a joke about an old man from bandera who is already dying, the whole family has gathered and he says that there is such a thing that sparkles, sometimes not the eyes muscovy well, and so on, there is always so much negativity that he is always somewhere i want to see a muscovy. in order to finally say something bad about him, here and here, that is, everywhere they shine some

symbols are considered to be theirs absolutely from such an outdated, er, decayed backward empire, so what better read your dugin, get ready to move to the village and that's the same thing, there's a donkey, a bull and water with milk, or whatever, water, water and bread, that 's basically your future. well, it won't last long , because only you will grow up 16-18-year-olds will be sent to be slaughtered and, well, that's basically the fate, if it suits you, then for god's sake. well, why not, listen, people have a free choice, they live enough, in principle, you have 140 million, it seems that a lot, you know, here it is 500, there is 600, there was a slightly different anecdote, do you remember there it says that they also came , one says that he came to the carpathians, he says how do they say that you have such a person here, it’s like you live on retirement and everything is a big house and everything is like that beautiful and that's it