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the army is no longer destroyed, it does not exist physically, it does not exist, there are mobilized people who are being trained by whom and it is not clear who will enter the battle , there are armed people in the army. why do i call him pg? they are fighting in pakner’s editorial office, they don’t have any ideology, so this is again all determined by us, and here it is, here it is, this is a turn that will go to your capital by itself, he has no chance if he succeeds in this event, however, we are with you agreed and that vladimir vladimirovich he to me acts rationally within the framework of the concept of logic and health and sense if he action in rotation he was on february 24 they gave a picas completely crazy and will try to take over your country thank you thank you thank you on the air and mark is a captain
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of the army reserve defense of israel, military historian , we had the saturday polyclub program on the air, and now another sp-expert is waiting for us from the other side of the atlantic, ihor eisenberg, professor of new york university, congratulations congratulations to mr. igor february from friends. greetings to all the viewers of express. well, let's start with the help of ukraine. now we are talking about new amounts of aid. in particular, the assistant to the president of the united states for national security, mr. sullivan spoke to the simple 38 billion dollars. how stable can american aid be in general ? it's about the new congress, it will be, well, i really hope that the old congress will vote for the adoption of the budget for the 23rd fiscal year, this should happen by next friday. because we had a temporary budget that was in effect until the end of yesterday, but we were very, very
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big. i would say that the negotiations were more behind closed doors between the administration and mostly with the moderate republicans, because the approval of the budget requires 60 votes. democrats in the house of representatives are in the majority, so they will vote for the principles of any compromise budget, and it is necessary that at least 10 republicans get to sign it . of aid to ukraine, the project will provide 38 billion for aid to ukraine where there are disputes about other articles of the budget, well, last tuesday and wednesday, it seems to us that progress was made in these negotiations, and it seems that there will be 10 republicans in the senate who support
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budget, but they agreed for the time being for one week to adopt a budget resolution or to continue to actually extend the current temporary budget. well, i really hope that by the end of next week, a permanent budget will be adopted for in the 23rd year, thousands of 38 billion will be provided for aid to ukraine next year. of course , when you talk about the budget in the 24th year, it will be more difficult because in the house of representatives, the majority of republicans in the senate will have more than 100 democrats, and there will be very big disputes between the two the house of representatives and the house of representatives between the senate and the house of representatives, the parameters of the budget, including the parameters of aid to ukraine for the 24th year, but i really hope that for the 23rd year, everything that the administration asked for will be approved next week
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mr. igor, isn't it beneficial for both parties, and aid to ukraine as such an important foreign policy topic that worries the electorate of each party? is it the case that the electorate of the democrats is more concerned about the ukrainian issue ? between between the electro-right wing of the republican party, which is not the majority of the republican party, but in the current congress, wear them in general, only a few of these completely original, anti- legal senators, submit representatives of the current one, i am controlled well, if we go by the votes against aid to ukraine, there are 57 next submissions of representatives that will start working on january 3 and will be a little more, but still it is less. but there is one problem,
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eh . mccarthy is the leader of the republicans of the house of representatives. he dreams of being the speaker, and in order to become the speaker, he needs 218 votes . the republicans in the next house will have 222 seats , that is, if he is not the speaker, then he needs everyone to vote for him. republicans, including this legal wing for the ultra-right wing, ukraine is only one of the points of their views of their policy, on which they are at absolute odds with the majority. republicans are anti-democrats because they advocate such an isolationist foreign policy, if you imagine, was it during trump's time that trump took health care somewhere out of the world organization, took it out during the paris climate agreement, of
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course, in the 17th year, he almost didn't take it out of nato, why bolton, a former adviser from of national security wrote in his memoirs that it was literally sure that there would be a sign announcing the withdrawal of the united states. this is such an absolute isolationist tendency, by the way, it is not new. it also happened in the 1930s and at the beginning of world war ii. the former joint tripod was very strong. that the far-right movement that actually supported nazi germany, that advocated maintaining good relations with nazi germany, and that continued until the japanese attack on the hairdresser on december 7, 1941 after that this morning, the right-wing movement for exchange, it simply did not disappear, but it ceased to exist and the same thing is happening, and now there is such a far-right movement , it does not make up the majority of it. it has its own influences, and that is why, in order to overcome its cycles, it will have to
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grow next year regarding aid to ukraine, in particular, the negotiations are rather difficult, because everyone knows clearly that there will be a majority in favor of dividing the money for aid in ukraine, submitting our representatives, we will have to build a coalition of moderate republicans, that is, at least mainly under part of the democrats or all the democrats in order to maintain the corresponding budget expenditures, well, look, this year the congress passed twice special laws on changes in the budget, and specifically just laws on removing money for aid in ukraine, that is, it cannot be ruled out that something can be done to itself in next year, let's say when there will be a dispute over other articles of the budget, that after all, with the help of ukraine, there will be such a coalition majority
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to submit representatives of the majority of republicans in such programs with the overwhelming majority of democrats or the efforts of democrats. please tell me , mr. igor, did you read the article by the former secretary of state kissinger's agents in the magazine aspecteter, i read it. let's try to discuss it in general. associating ukraine with nato, an alternative such as neutrality no longer makes sense, writes henry kissinger, especially after finland, sweden joined nato. this is what happened in may of last year i recommended establishing a cease -fire line past the borders that existed where the war began on february 24. russia must leave the territory it conquered after february 24. however, it is not the territory it occupied for almost 10 years, including crimea, this territory can become the subject of negotiations after the ceasefire, to what extent do
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you consider this concept of realistic? well, kissinja is no longer simply put forward by art. administration, but in republican circles, frankly speaking, i do not consider this concept realistic in terms of the fact that it can be implemented, but i , for sure, and you would think that if ukraine were accepted into nato, uh, while it has not yet liberated all the occupied territories and even with the condition that the fifth article would not be extended to any military actions er for the liberation of er occupied territories, i would consider it a er a great victory for ukraine because at least its ukraine and the territory that is under control authorities and under the control of the armed forces of ukraine, that
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it would be protected by this from further attacks by russia, because if ukraine were in nato, it would mean that any attack by russia would be , it would be a war between russia and nato i think that the russian leadership is not ready for such a war and all this will be a very significant defense for ukraine, but i do not think that it can be implemented simply because i do not think that putin can such leave because for him any ceasefire on any line front, this will mean only preparation for the next hostilities before the next offensive, because its goals will not change, and that is why i believe that what i am proposing to some engineer well, it
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may be in the minds of certain political circles in the united states, in particular the republican ones. but it seems to me that this such a thing that can be implemented in a good way simply because it is possible to make some kind of agreement with someone who wants to make an agreement, but it seems to me that putin is simply going national in this plan, presented moderately between the leadership let's say north korea, when it offered to sign an agreement in 1953 to stop the korean war on the 30 38 parallel on the front line that existed at that time, it will still try to capture as much territory as possible, capture all of ukraine, well, if it is at least is sitting in his head and i think so, by the way, i would like to draw your attention to
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this historical moment with this article , and for the first time in history, kisen called ukraine a state of central europe, he wrote ukraine for the first time in in modern history have become a great power in central europe. i once wrote an essay to igor in which i said that ukraine is considered a country of eastern europe, just like eastern european countries, just as in the days of our youth , poland, czechoslovakia, and hungary were considered eastern european countries . all this was eastern europe, and now central and i said that this is not geography, politics. and as soon as ukraine succeeds in breaking away from russia, they will immediately start calling it a central european country , because ukrainians are geographically not in the east europe it is in the center of europe in the center of europe here just not far from lviv in the carpathians and that is ukraine it has not yet won the final victory, but an influential western politician and historian of diplomacy
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talks about a central european state when germany was a central european state, now it is western europe, i.e. the center of europe is constantly moving to the east, two eastern european countries are left, russia, belarus, can you imagine, i absolutely agree with you, and this, by the way, is very , very characteristic of such a suf and public opinion in particular, in the united states, if we were with you 10 years ago, well, i would have just stopped by somewhere in america, among well, average enough educated people about ukraine , eh. that ukraine is there well, it was considered by some to be part of the russian empire, part of russia well, this is the
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east, this is eastern europe, it is not very clear what ukraine is now, if with any americans, well, who have a normal idea of the world, about geography, about political geography is of course, everyone will say that the combine is a democratic country, or that ukraine is a young democracy, that it is very different from russia . belong to russia and belarus yes, mr. igor, we literally have it, but we cannot help but remember and the fact that putin is going to see lukashenka and first of all, it is strange that he himself is eating, and not as usual, the gentleman invites lukashenka to his place. does this mean that he is in a weak position? secondly, all western analysts write that he will persuade lukashenka to directly participate in the war against ukraine. what are the arguments? is it
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only economic or what kind of political pressure can putin apply? i think that the arguments are also the same that lukashenko can exist as a dictator once again only thanks to er because he is supported by russia so that putin can scare him that if you, if you don't agree, then we can find someone else to take your place, we can probably be like that, well, that is, well, the documents will be like this, they will be the same strict i i would say that i hope that lukashenko, who is in the new independence, from russia, from putin, from putin's support, probably because until the 20th year, lukashenko somehow maneuvered sometimes between russia and he tried to close the e- eh with the event after before after the 20th year after he lost the elections eh seized power dealt
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with all the protests eh what happened in belarus it is much more i think it depends on putin it is really so thank you thank you we have now let's come back after thanking igoraytsenko to spend at new york university on ukrainian rights and we have mykola knyazhytskyi, a people's deputy of ukraine, in contact, we will talk with him about the last week of work of the ukrainian parliament on the adoption of these high-profile laws necessary for joining the european union, congratulations, mr. mykola , congratulations, congratulations well, let's go let's try to understand , after all, what was the most important thing in your opinion in these laws and why they caused yes, i would say contradictory comments of the public from opposition circles, well, we adopted different laws i personally the humanitarian committee worked on the law on media in this law, it is a requirement of the european
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union that we adopt it, and to confirm our candidacy and for further accession to the european union, the authorities depended on the fact that it should be adopted by the new year, we worked a lot and for a long time on with this project, which became a law, the work did not begin until the convocation had passed, but now it has finally come to an end. the document that came out is obviously much better than the one that was adopted in the first reading. we succeeded to protect the ukrainian language in the mass media and prevent those people who violate the law or are a threat to our national security from the airwaves, the so-called black lists were there and the sad norms were one of them - this is what we actually brought back to life state television , we fought for a very long time for denationalization in order to fulfill again the rules of the council of europe convention and the documents of the european union well, the authorities still insisted on
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leaving the state tv channel of the council, which in fact, it should show the parliament, but in fact it shows the parliament is a propaganda source of information that is financed by the state and these funds are transferred to private structures, we had many comments on the norm that regulates the internet, er, somewhere we managed to reach a compromise, but in general, it is obvious that we are not satisfied with the way it was the clarity of the wording has been written out, now in fact the national council will be able to ban any blogger who talks about her child on youtube or a craft entrepreneur who makes there, i don't know collects and sells mushrooms or is advertised through his facebook page, they can actually also be considered a means of mass information, they can be subject to a ban on control and inspections, this is not very good. there are several other such weak points to which we will obviously have to return . the development of cities, which was passed by the majority in the verkhovna rada, this is not a requirement of the european union, but a requirement of the majority, this law also caused
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huge opposition in society, and a petition against this law literally gained the necessary number in a day the number of votes became the record holder in this well, as always, our government is trying to combine those laws required by the european union . media and remember that and yet there was a rule that supposedly allowed to deprive the media of a license without a court decision, whether it remained or not, because a petition was registered on the president's website. precisely because of the presence of this norms in this law well, the petitions were different on the president's website, those mass media that are registered are banned only through the court , not registered mass media, and their activity on the internet can be stopped by a decision of the national council, and of course, from our
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point of view, this is not democratic because can be used against those who do not please the authorities ; instead , it is actually impossible to ban telegram or these channels of solovyov or others in telegram, and thus the authorities essentially encourage anonymous sources of information and those who declare their owners and work openly, they are at risk , therefore, although there are many positive things in these regulations that relate to the regulation of the internet, but there are some that can actually be used as censorship and another i am interested in the miracle of reducing the ukrainian-language quota on radio, did it remain, or did it still manage to be removed? judge vovka, the sanctions of the united states were introduced, this is a coincidence. no, the circumstances did not
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work. to the responsibility of the wolf judge and those judges who violated the law, because by liquidating your court and transferring all cases to the regional court, where the case has already been considered for years, we usually deprive citizens of the opportunity to appeal quickly the decision of the administrative authorities, but it is better than nothing, because in fact this court, which, as you remember, is a state conspiracy, prepared and engaged in corruption, well, it was an example of the worst judicial system that can be imagined. bill, because it was submitted by the president as urgent back in april 21, well, the president submits the project and controls the majority that we considered this project, obviously with the permission of the president's office, too, apparently. this judge against whom they tried to open a case for a nabu who really violated the law, what part of other courts, not all, but a significant
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part of other judges who worked in this court did all the whims of the authorities and the authorities did not consider it necessary to eliminate it, it was more convenient for them to keep these courts on the hook, but after the adoption of sanctions against the wolf judge was announced, it was no longer possible to save face for the government and had to move. thus, liquidating this court is still better than if it had been working. but as i have already said, this is not the optimal solution from the point of view from the point of view of the functioning of the judicial system, let's finish the topic about the courts, there is also about the constitutional court of ukraine, so the law was passed about the judicial reform in general, it is taking us a very long time, what decisions still need to be made in the near future in order for the supreme council of justice of the higher qualification to work the commission of judges and those courts that already existed, the judges of which were through competitions, transparent , fair and elected so that they
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function normally, you asked about the law on the permanent court, there was a rule about what is selected candidacies and representatives of our judicial bodies and our authorities, but also international independent authoritative experts, so that they, depending on these courts, threw out this norm, actually under the guise of a struggle for sovereignty, but it is obvious that we see how our courts and, unfortunately , we do not see any plan of the government to reform the judicial system, they criticized the previous government for this, indeed, the reform was slow, but it was still possible to reboot the supreme court, which has claim, but there are significantly fewer of them than before, to create an anti-corruption branch of the courts, and since then, in fact, the judicial reform has stood still. if we talk about the law on urban planning, in what form should it be so that there is no such criticism against it, it's just in this law
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, the activities of local self-government bodies were effectively abolished, and now in lviv, kyiv, odesa or kharkiv, anyone can build houses of any height, it is decided by the developers themselves and private e-e control bodies, which they themselves through the related it is obvious that what bothered us the most is the complete exclusion of local self-government bodies from how the cities will look. this definitely does not correspond to our european obligations, nor to the general principle of democracy, which is why the association of cities of ukraine came out categorically against this law and more than 38 m from various cities, including the mayors of kyiv, lviv, zhytomyr, dnipro, and many other cities opposed this law; it was adopted only thanks to an agreement with representatives of the former psg, which now called themselves differently, but this did not change their essence, and they voted for the government and therefore helped to adopt this law. well, in fact, it is in the interests of either developers or those people who
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want to completely control them outside the law without local self-government bodies. mykola, but the developer in his on the other hand, they say that on the contrary , the risk of corruption is removed, they do not need to go to the offices of local authorities and pay bribes in order to build something, well , first of all, if someone gives bribes to someone, then there is no need to liquidate this body and it is necessary to bring to justice those people who take bribes, and the elimination of the local self-government bodies of that city is absurd in itself because it actually nullifies the function of local self-government bodies, there are also norms related to the protection of cultural heritage, now it will act in the order of notifications , i.e. e.e. the developer must write a letter to the authority responsible for permits e.e. so that the cultural heritage is not destroyed, if there is no response within two weeks, then it can be considered consent. obviously, this also will not give time and opportunity to conduct an effective examination and may lead to the actual destruction of monuments of culture and architecture, and that is why the ministry of
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culture opposed this law. so we actually opened the door to absolutely such uncontrolled wild capitalism and obviously there will still be bodies that will monitor the activities of these private licensing organizations, i think that is where the bribes will be taken and it was they who initiated it, we agree with what was possible and it was necessary to simplify this law because developers are also businessmen and decent businessmen, but i read, for example, blogs and appeals of lviv developers who were outraged by the fact that this will be decided somewhere in kyiv by unknown authorities and not by local authorities, so eliminating local authorities from my point of view opinion in this case, we will not allow it, but please tell me if there are any chances to change the law on media itself so that it did not have all these uncertainties until the following, let's make another law that would amend the law on media and then maybe such a chance will appear, let's see how our european partners will react to this, they are now ready to turn a blind eye to a lot of things,
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because it is very important to them that ukraine becomes a member of the european union . in this case, because membership in the eu is important for us, but as soon as we become members of the eu, we will have to change this law, even if we don't, if someone has complaints against us because of those norms, all the more so that these changes will definitely be made, well that's like that romantic by the way, hungary's position does not change anything and it is a member of the eu and a nato member, we do not see that there are different members of the eu, this is true, but hungary is accused of some other sins, not the ones we are talking about now, even in hungary there is no state television it does not exist in any of the european countries because it is such a challenging precedent, so at least we can return to the european dual system where private broadcasting and public broadcasting are correlated and the state has no control over broadcasting within the country state broadcasting and only for foreign broadcasting for broadcasting outside the country, i think that the regulations
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will definitely have to change this law directly or do we still need to settle this issue with some additional regulatory acts, we had comments on this law, but in general the law does not encroach on e -th definition of the ukrainian language and its use as a state language, and despite our certain comments, we believe that it should have been adopted, that's why we supported it and voted for it thank you, mykola, thank you, thank you here mykola knyazhytskyi of ukraine was on our air and after a short break we have a special guest, we vote him yes let's see how people who suffer from rheumatism and arthrosis live, it's changing,
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