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history does not consist of one faith, and the war to which we appeal is the war of the soviet union in finland in the winter, it really led to the fact that finland sacrificed part of the territory and retained its sovereignty. because the soviet union came out exactly on this line, then it broke the line with energy, which from then on moonshine rome, and in principle, if it had the resources, it could capture all of finland, it did not have the resources, the war was stopped by heavy losses of the finnish people. but then there was the second world war. the second world war. finland became an ally of nazi germany. the allies were interested in the fact that it ceased to be an ally of germany and they guaranteed its sovereignty
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. i wonder what happened on june 22, 1941. in fate, the filter would not have attacked the soviet union, because stalin returned to finland, just as putin returned to ukraine, and we do not know what happened in this area. that is, you understand the question it's not really about territorial sacrifices i keep trying to explain it and it needs to be explained to the people who introduce it it's not like you can put something in the mouth of the beast and it will calm down the question here i agree with henry kissing i don't agree with the fact that putin will agree with some kind of line on february 24, but i agree that the question lies in security guarantees in nato, if we join nato and have security guarantees for our entire territory that we control, then the territory that is
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internationally recognized and controlled by us return is by and large a matter of time and diplomacy, not a military solution with another russia in putin's style, we are already talking as a country, as members of the european union, as a member of nato, and we ask this russia a question. please tell me , do you want to be part of the civilized world at all ? the sanctions were lifted from you, you understand that we have never allowed this to the european union, you know, because you occupy our territories, you are doomed to be an exile in world politics, and in this situation, this new russia forced to go to these victories, even if you imagine that we are not now forced to leave some of our territory , i hope that this will not happen, but this is how the exchange of territory for peace is in its pure form - it does not work, it does not work practically, by the way, the baltic countries are in the 40th year, everyone was actually occupied by the soviet army, they lost their independence in
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1991, it was restored, but latvia, estonia, already without a part of their territory, left areas that were part of the russian federation, but imagine what your history was now, they would not have been part of nato, that russia satisfied with this ivangorod or pitalova, our coppers will sit down, this is a well-known proverb, but since latvia and estonia are in nato and there are no coppers on the airfields , russia is soviet and nato countries' planes are so far, so far no one in russia, at least so far, is not considering the possibility of such an interview. so what i think that our most important issue is the three questions about which we need to talk about the restoration of territorial integrity as much as possible. let's hope that it is completely possible.
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moment which in principle and of course by the way preventing the complete destruction of critical infrastructure and by the way if the european union gave us the possibility of accelerated entry at least officially in the documents what do you think of nato on such conditions as some engineer suggests that we go to, let's say, a temporary relinquishment of the territory that was conquered by february 24, but nato provides us with guarantees for the rest of the territory of ukraine. i no longer believe the february 24 line at all. the borders of ukraine, the international one of them, i believe in it, if we even start to retreat from this politically, then this is already a matter of diplomacy - this is my question, and the military is a completely different line of the administrative borders of the donetsk and luhansk
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regions and the administrative border of the autonomous republic of crimea, which russia officially recognized as donetsk and the so-called luhansk people's republics are located in the administrative borders of donetsk and luhansk regions. i don't know where it is written, but it has been declared , this is the purpose of the special operation about this line. needs i apologize for the withdrawal of ukrainian troops from the territory that we control today in the donetsk region online regarding the kherson zaporizhzhia regions as far as i understand, they themselves still do not know in what form they joined them, but they can only be there, delineate the borders , even leave them at all, one village will be left for itself and to say, but this is also a problem, this is, by the way, a legal trap, but in that administrative line, i somehow still believe that negotiations can be about it, but from what trouble well, to look at it through putin's eyes, we need to talk about some kind of line. on
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february 24, this is a temporary line. it's simply because ukraine occupied part of the dnr of the people's republic of china, and we have to buy them. that is, it's not exactly a line. i don't understand why we heard it from volodymyr zelensky all the time at the beginning, he is now hearing it from the messenger line, the others are donetsk, luhansk oblast, and the issue of their future must be resolved through negotiations, i am already a citizen, this is outright cynicism , because these are just people who are occupied, both in kherson , kherson oblast, and in zaporizhzhia, but this is so diplomatic cynicism but if we divide these territories in half, well, there a third of russia remains the dnr of the lpr, but when they ask from which such and which such and such idea why it is russian here is donetsk akromatorsk ukrainian i always asked what is the difference what are you saying oh the people of donbass are suffering
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why are they not suffering in kramatorsk or slavic if we say what you say that the people of donbas do not suffer, there is no such people, it is generally ukrainian population in all of the donetsk region because then kramatorsk is our slavyansk and mariupol is ours ours and in donetsk a referendum should be held and there should be some special status for local residents, the news held a referendum everywhere, the untimely would have meant that there is a separate one. these are the areas in which the russian army is located, it was a diplomatic decision to stop the war, we see what it is as a result led to the fact that russia renewed its ambitions for the entire territory of these regions, at least that is, it did not want to stop the war, so there are issues that are quite important to me, and i do not think that it is solved in this way at all. i think that it is solved differently, and i in principle, i do not really believe in vladimir
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putin's willingness to go to negotiations of any type, but i keep hearing from all western politicians that this war must end at the negotiating table, the majority of it ends at the victory table, let's hold negotiations when ukraine is in a favorable position for me always reminds me of this anecdote about the british kings, you know what, uh, and there was a broker, uh, he convinced, uh, a simple person, did she marry her son to the british queen, what is causing it, what is it like, she didn't have a yes, a person, and in the end then he he was convinced a little, well, let him marry , it would be left to say the english queen, that is, you are here too, i even imagine that it is possible to convince president zelensky, who is always there, this woman of the world of other ukrainian leaders to the need for negotiations with putin, and putin he will convince, but he did not believe it why putin putin if
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putin wins, he doesn't need to negotiate if putin loses, we don't need it, we don't need it, and he doesn't need it either, because the negotiations and the admission of defeat have stopped somewhere and we're standing it it is not a defeat, here you showed good will, we feel sorry for the civilian population here, we came out with the fact that and if we hold negotiations and fix something there, here is that kherson was ours, now it is ukrainian, this is a defeat, so i think that putin, in principle, will not go to any real negotiations, and what by the way, every time well, look, the ukrainian side says let's start withdrawing troops from donbas , says president zelenskyi, they say and we don't think well, i didn't expect anything else then the ukrainian side is on fire and can we spend festive truce christmas new year your servicemen probably have families too no no we
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don't want a christmas truce we always say russia needs to gather resources it needs new equipment and new soldiers i'm all right and why do you propose negotiations they refuse all the time and here is this pause, that is, they do not want to use it, they can use the pause, but they do not want to agree on anything with us , they simply do not want to have any idea that they want to talk about something with us, that is, the only the opportunity to negotiate for them is to approve their conditions, and these conditions are different every time, so they change the rules all the time during the game. and by the way, this applies to life in your own hands. in ukraine , such a situation existed only during the time of viktor
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yanukovych. i remember it very well how are you? i laughed when these dictatorship laws were passed there or something else happened or during the maidan there 13-14 why are you on tuesday you are a decent journalist and on wednesday you are some kind of criminal, just like that , on tuesday you live peacefully on the fourth topic the forehead in the apartment, some aunts whom kernes sent from kharkov, what is it? you didn't do anything else. you basically did what you were doing all the time. the agenda for the day of change in russia, you see recently the people who worked there in moscow, rain or shine, you know what they are. well somehow they find a balance that allows them, on the one hand, to communicate with the audience in their russian, and on the other hand, not to annoy the authorities in russian, to be so allegedly oppositional, and on february 24, we said everything, we
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already consider you enemies, not who we are they banned it there a year ago, which you looked at and said, oh, this is the house of shiza. and you. and so, little by little, this ice rink is moving further, further there, ilya yashin, a municipal deputy, ran for me, defended me, thought that, well, in that situation, i can protect the interests of the residents of this small space that we are for i was voted out in moscow by a sudden criminal because he said that the training was enough, it happened in principle, ilya. i didn't always say some true things. well, he said, who is this - asks putin, it offended the most obviously, but it wasn't like that before, i'm just saying that when you change the rules in the course of the game, you can of course quite seriously influence the psychology of those with whom you want to not talk to whom you want to destroy,
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but now putin wants to destroy the russian opposition there , everyone he doesn't agree with him, he also wants to destroy ukraine , that's why he will offer new new conditions all the time, if you can tell. oh, he's so simple . nothing, he'll disappear somewhere. i know today what this forecast is that his associates will overthrow him. well, first of all, they say so, but something yet there is no such thing. well, i don’t know. it seems to me that these salad people are not very different from putin and that they are afraid of him, but i want to look at that tsaratnik, we saw this security council of the russian federation on february 22. yes, and somehow it did not look like associates who are capable of something they were all scared and just sat there like at a funeral, if there is any political leadership, leadership in the people's republic of china there is a political captain and a dictator, but we see that these members of the politburo who are next to the dictator are serious figures that he at least consults with them and
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they all tremble so so so slightly when he looks at them well, then what should we think about any coups in russia so that everything is hopeless in this regard, but that does not mean that it is hopeless with from the point of view of our victory why should we win precisely because he will agree with our victory well, he will not agree but they will fight and invent some propaganda narratives, well, they left crimea because that is why it is necessary to invent this about kherson in order to save russian soldiers they say it is necessary to preserve russian soldiers and the civilian population, the nazis could have caused a humanitarian disaster in crimea, we announced that we will definitely return home o k i propose t- the slogan crimea will return home, it is possible to do so forum ot volodymyr
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zelensky was gathering the crimean platform, and vladimir putin will be gathering the crimean forum of the region вернётся домой, look, he is sitting there, sitting next to medvedev, patroshev, lukashenko, strilkov, mironov , matvienko, volodya, everyone is speaking, they say, we have to make an effort, prove it, he says, i will definitely go to sevastopol. i was going while he was under control of the russian states well, unfortunately, he never made it, but when he returns to russia, i will definitely go there, the president of abkhazia has your word. we had good neighborly relations with the republic of crimea, we supplied mandarins there. unfortunately, now the residents of crimea do not have the opportunity to eat our mandarins, they eat some kind of moroccan blizzard it may be the same with water, angelika, the ukrainian nazis are poisoning the dnieper
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waters that our crimeans drink, we must check this water, by the way, there is an american biolaboratory that can poison this water honored doctor of russia bella ivanovna bubnova bella ivanovna speaks, tell us about the composition of the water that the crimeans drink now, we found very dangerous trace elements in this water that can affect the health of the young generation, so we must return to crimea to crimeans drank clean water, crimean water, we will pour it in buckets, i am convinced of you, these people are cynical to such a level that they can make a huge pr in the events out of any defeat, well , your words are divine, as they say that they already sat on such a forum and crimea was in ukrainian and of course i did not always remember such words when maria zakharova said during the crimean platform
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when she was asked and you will conduct against the alternative form maria zakharovader is dry words andriy said that we should conduct forms when in we have crimea, and here we can say exactly that. and why should we be sick when we have crimea? and let them have a crimean forum. it's a great idea. i propose to single out the presidential grand organization of strelkovo or peta tolstoy for carrying out the crimean form. speakers. i will write everything for you. i will write everything with joy because it is huge budget money. there will be a new gelendzhik palace on the ruins of this forum. as many salads as possible. there are no palaces. vitaly, this week the european union adopted the ninth package of sanctions. finally, we always
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perceive sanctions as a mechanism of pressure on the russian federation, and a certain part of the population hopes that this will weaken russia and thus it will not be able to fight against ukraine just in the last package of sanctions, and restrictions related to the military-industrial complex of the russian federation were again introduced to physical and legal entities, but in the office of the president, in particular, andriy yarmak , the head of the office welcomed the ninth package of sanctions of the european union, but he was surprised by the decision to withdraw from sanctions russian oligarchs, it became a certain compromise in europe, that is why they agreed for so long, i think so, i think that there are certain people who have their lobbying opportunities in europe and on the one hand sanctions are being strengthened against the state sectors of the economy, and on the other hand, against certain individuals who may have already proven that they do not currently play any serious role in the modern economy of russia. although on the other hand, it is also absolutely obvious that these people were the founders of the putin regime, this is also a
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fact, but you understand sanctions will still not act quickly, we must always remember that we are dealing with a country with a market economy. the soviet union managed to win the cold war because it was a country with a degenerate economy where it was the state plan that decided how many baby strollers there should be, how many balls of flowers , types of cheese there should be, not even how many types of cheese, because kilograms of cheese must be produced, and they were always wrong for some reason, because it is impossible not to be wrong, the logic is that it has there should be as many varieties of cheese as you and i will eat, not as many as they decided that you and i might want to eat more. well, if we want to eat not 50 g of cheese per day, but 120, why don't we have the right and they only often decided that they are smarter than us now in general for the market and as a result it all had to collapse sooner or later if they had an economy
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that recognized the laws of the market, which i now communist china does not know that since they existed in relation to sanctions, the agency reuters writes that the leader of the european union 18 billion euros they are planning financing for next year in ukraine, as well as strengthening sanctions against russia, and you know, this is so surprising every time after each package , they say, well, next time it will be strengthened, so next time there will be a strengthening of these compromises europe between the european countries when they are already completed is a real and certain tool of pressure on russia, it is a real tool, it just cannot be such that events take place in 24 hours, and on the other hand, i think that you and i should like the fact that in europe in general there is, of course, a compromise here what do you think? when ukraine is not in the european union, it will want to just walk around like a barracks like
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in the soviet union. we will vote our opinion anywhere. we will want to stand up. if i tell you what you know, there was a war between russia and ukraine. do you remember? yes, and then we decided that we should solve the issue simply and by the majority of votes by a simple majority of germany, france , the netherlands, belgium and luxembourg do not earn money. at home we will not like it the whole essence of the european union is that really small luxembourg and not very much romania and not very much bulgaria and the very rich netherlands have one vote and now this leads to disappointment now when romania and bulgaria were not admitted to the schengen zone. although they carried out all the necessary reforms, austria opposed it and supported the situation with bulgaria. the
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netherlands, we here in romania actually did not receive schengen by the vote of one country, so i was disappointed because you approve all there is no solution and there is no freedom of movement, but on the other hand, if romania ever needs to assert its own point of view , it will be able to do it, and this is politics, this is diplomacy, and this needs to be learned on the one hand austria did not let the romanians into schengen, and on the other hand, austria managed to get bosnia and herzegovina the status of a candidate scientist of the european union, and the next time the campaign wants to have more intensive negotiations with some countries of the western balkans, the interests of which it lobbies, it will say, well, we are not against it. in romania, this is how it generally happens in the great politics, and these sanctions imposed on the russian political establishment. they cannot act on them at all.
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but their children travel there, their wives, mistresses and so on study in european educational institutions . i think that this is an erosion of interest in that world. i remember that back in 2008, when there was a war between russia and russia, it was absolutely clear to everyone then, return the money to russia, return the children to russia, return the wives from the west, the resort, close your villas into a castle, focus on some other world, this world will close soon, this was said a few years before the attack on russia against the russian troops in the crimea and 14-15 years to 16 years, in fact, before the big invasion, that is, the regime was already preparing for it even then, if the russian elites somehow did not want to hear it,
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neither did they want to hear it . in russia to hold positions and earn money, they obviously began to focus on another world. i noticed that my colleagues there have some kind of political expert activity and, let's say, they had serious connections with german or french centers. and suddenly they began to fly to singapore to abu dhabi to beijing and i say and what is there? well, there is a political science center of such and such a name or dubai there of such and such - that is, they have already changed the system itself, the turn to the east has begun and i think that most of them are absolutely calm perceives all this because they
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always knew that sooner or later they were just extracting and lo. look at a state official who all his life, approximately at the beginning of the 2000s, had to write a letter two or three weeks before traveling abroad with a request to allow the departure of some crimean person who holds any position in any ministry, in the regional executive committee or in the city, and she knows that if she writes that she is going to some place in germany in some high- ranking office there, she will be looked at without admiration. and what a sound the period when it was not possible to go to turkey. and there was a period when it was not possible to go to georgia. so here in ukraine we had a temporary degenerate consul general in crimea
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. ugu was against it a veteran of this film said something, this is a nazi film, and this person, a high-ranking official of the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation, did not go to the wedding of his own daughter , because the daughter married a citizen of georgia, and the wedding was in tbilisi, and no one forbade him to say, well, you will go to georgia, fire you from your job, no, nothing happened. he himself did not go to his own daughter's wedding. and i knew people who did not go to the funerals of their own parents, such people already perceive themselves that way, but there is no, you know you will go to your mother's funeral. there to tbilisi or to kyiv or to cyprus, well,
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you can go to cyprus. well, i don't know. you can find some enemy country there and they will release you . of course, you can go to the funeral right away , but they already have a sense of principle, fear is not principle, it is an understanding that you can lose your mother's career, there is no longer a wedding, somehow they will have dinner without me. well, if they lived in this for two decades, do you think something changed in 2012 year, if the employees of the security forces could not travel abroad for 15 years, they were forbidden, although they could travel in november. but it was not allowed to travel, it is millions of people, their wives, their children. they have never rested in any europe, in any turkey, in any egypt . if you work probably in positions in the fsb, in the foreign service, in the foreign intelligence service, in the departments dealing with secret codes, etc., in the ministry of internal affairs and throughout the vertical , you do not have the right, and it started in the early 2000s
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years and when we oh they are definitely driving completely different people that is, it is necessary to understand these people on whom we want to influence here is this conventionally speaking device so it has been driving for a long time the prices are driving in general and these are driving as a last resort to egypt thus this sanction has such restrictions on these persons is essentially absurd, if it is vexatious, they identify those whom the west does not want to see, but it is obvious that when we are talking about some generals of the russian special services, they are definitely not on the road, but we are talking about what you understand, this is not a sanction simply the impossibility of departure, this is the closing of the accounts, this is the closing of the accounts of related persons, this is the end of business activity, this is the whole world, which is changing the economy, we have two minutes left, and i think that at the end , it is important to discuss the topic, because the european parliament finally recognized the
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holodomor as a genocide of the ukrainian people, this happened this week at the last e-e at the last meeting of the last session of the european parliament and mr. vitaly, we understand that the historical truth of justice is restored - it is important but interesting why it happened at this very moment ukraine, thanks to its victories in the war with russia, became more subject , did the european union stop being so afraid of russia? i think it is for a completely different reason that the euro, when we spoke european, you know, the leadership of russia really wanted moscow in the 1930s to destroy the ukrainian people, they looked at us and they knew when you were the head of the soviet union, and why did they have to destroy you? destroyed. by the way, the ukrainians were similar to the holodomor in kazakhstan, it was aimed at the ukrainian communities and the kazakhs because these were all undesirable elements for the colonizers and they did not believe in it. now they are
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looking through the option of putin's actions . these historical facts, which seemed unconvincing, even though they were even valued by well-known authoritative historians, are now becoming convincing through the lens of modern reality, and we have been trying to explain it to them for years, they simply do not could understand why it was necessary for a russian well now there is no need to explain now it is clear why now that the president of russia is different from stalin's and so we destroy this one and they will all rest there well so now it is clear that no i couldn't say but i would like to comrade stalin would say.
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