i never liked kherson very much. it seemed to me that it was stuck in some way in its development and was preserved and so on. and now the way kherson was resisting and it was known even during the time when there was an occupation because all the moments about it came out now i have different feelings towards my native city because i admire the way the people of kherson survived, how they fought and did not give up. and actually russia is now taking revenge for this by shelling kherson, and that's why i used to go to these places there in my childhood. and of course it's just inside everything turned upside down talked to people and you talk like that, people calmly tell you, and then it turns out that this person was in jail for a week during this season, they beat her and all that, but

at the same time, she now smiles and says that we are so happy, fortunately, ukraine has returned , we were waiting for this and we are in this did not hesitate to go every day, you just admire the strength of these people, but it is also necessary, now is such a moment, for which i also emphasize that it is necessary not to forget about kherson now, because at first hundreds and hundreds of journalists went to show the euphoria of the residents, because you cannot call it otherwise, it was euphoria from the liberation and now huge problems have started with these shellings, many people are evacuating and leaving. it is good that there is such an opportunity to leave the city by train, buses and own transport, but the fact that huge humanitarian problems are starting now because of the shelling and the city is suffering a lot, it is also necessary to show how here the picture is changing. so the whole of kherson was a city of happy people, and now the russians are trying, if they could not, to subjugate the people. well, what they and

kharkiv did out of anger for this pro-ukrainian position of revenge and destruction of houses is not in general, without any logic, absolutely chaotic shelling, without any logic, did you notice a change in mood in kherson, the typhoon that you mentioned, and now that these shellings have intensified, can we say that people, uh, well, let's say that they lost some kind of courage and readiness for what will have to go through such great difficulties , after all, people have spent so many months in the occupation and now for them a new shock - this is a regular description of the increase in internal tension and anxiety for their loved ones. i talked to a man near the tent where you can make an appointment for an evacuation and he told me that at the time when i spoke with him in kherson there was no water, heat and electricity for more than two weeks, now the water was already broken, but at the time when we

talked there was no electricity and he says in my apartment 10 °, but i am leaving with my son and my family, not because of this, not because there is no electricity , water, heating, but because yesterday, after shelling, a 13-year-old boy died, and i have a son of the same age, and i am just taking my child out to safety and standing nearby his son who absolutely spoke obscene language on in relation to the russians, that is, from well, it did not come that the people there, but under the russians, we were quiet, but here we started shelling no. everyone understands who is shelling, who is the cause and this anger. kupantsi, it is growing even more because of what they see and how they are now destroying the city. your report about kherson was published in faynan-shaltants, and i

personally remember two moments the most. about the fact that they were surprised when your relatives asked to bring not medicine from kyiv, for example , but asked to bring the press so that they could read what was happening in ukraine all these months, uh, while kherson was under occupation, and the second point is that despite all that these people survived, when you were returning back to kyiv, they packed a transfer for you. but i barely got it to my mother because it was a huge transfer there, so because here are these family friends and connections, fortunately, nothing destroys them, and that was of course a - and it's such a warm moment when you you understand, i spent the night with my relatives . there was no water, no light, nothing, but they are packing gifts for you to deliver to kyiv, where is everything, and it is so warm, of course,

and incredible feelings, but there she also described the moment that i remember the most and which almost brought me to tears when i tell my relatives and you would know how we missed kherson tomatoes this summer and autumn well , because no tomatoes well there are no comparisons with kherson tomatoes and they brought out three cans of rolled tomatoes and they say now you have to try them all, these are three different varieties, if you missed it and you understand, i even had tears in my eyes well, of course, not because of the tomatoes, but because of this whole situation in general, understanding what people went through, what the whole country went through and continues to go through, but still with some kind of hope that all the occupied cities will be liberated sooner or later, well, i suspect that maybe they put a jar of tomatoes with you to kyiv with you.

recently announced this bbc list, in which there were only eight ukrainian women , including you, but also the other day we saw that on the cover of the influential publication time and the president of ukraine zelenskyi and the ukrainian spirit, the publication also noted the struggle of the ukrainian people, or in your opinion, such ratings of the covers of the lists they they somehow help ukraine in this war, of course informationally, it helps a lot because ukraine does not disappear from the agenda of the world, not only politically, but the main thing is that they provide us with weapons, perhaps not on the scale of we want to provide but if these decisions of governments are not supported by their voters and society, then this will not be done or will be done in smaller volumes and it is very important that what happened is that, in principle, the western world has a consultation, both political and public ukraine, and these are all things, after all, it was also a

show of solidarity with ukraine, and an understanding that despite the fact that it has been going on there for 9 months, the 10th will soon go away, it is still necessary to support the ukrainians and we must somehow want them to keep going and no they lost their spirit. well, ukrainians have no other choice, but still such things. they support the ukrainian people and give them some kind of inner energy, but at the same time, you were recently in strasbourg. and i understand that this was your first trip abroad, the second after february 24, this is your experience on the first and second trip , what did he show you about the extent to which europe generally understands what is really happening in ukraine, that this is a russian war against ukraine, that russia is at war here? did you see that somewhere there are

gaps that we still need to fill ? the moment that i felt on both trips, i talked mostly it was expert circles, it was either journalists or there were political studies schools, public figures , after all, it was an expert circle. i would say so. abroad, they defend their position very strongly. well, that's why we understand everything clearly, we don't have partisans, especially when people leave. well, i went to germany for one week in the summer, in my group there were journalists who cover the war, and in my group were a girl from a couple from mariupol, a couple from severodonetsk, a woman from kherson, well, that is, everyone saw

everything . i felt that it seems to me that there is also something like this in europe that the ukrainians are suffering a lot, they need to be sympathized with, but they are very emotional, they are people from the war, and that is why they are too emotional, and that is why we need to sympathize with them, but what they say is divided into singing i would say yes and listen to someone more calm and sensible, well , that is, we are all traumatized by the war, and that's why i'm talking about this, i'm talking about this, well, it's really difficult to explain to someone. if no one was under fire, then well, it is difficult to explain and understand, that is why i was in strasbourg and i was with the ukrainian school of political studies, and in my group there was alina mykhailo, who defends ukraine, who is a member of the military, and i also

had in my group the deputy olha stefanishyna, who lost her husband his her husband was simply killed by the russians when he was helping people evacuate from chernihiv, well , what cloths can we be talking about, what are you? all these conversations there about the dialogues of everyone with everyone, ukrainians now want pedophiles and justice , justice, justice, the end of war killings, and so on, so that all those who committed crimes will then receive punishment, and only then, in i don’t know, ten years from now, we will think how reconcile and continue to live as neighbors, but this is definitely not right now, the question is not at the right time, and that is why i had a case where i refused to participate in one pension in riga. when i looked

, they sent me a program that most of the participants are russians and i am a ukrainian, even liberal ones and the opposition and i say that this does not at all correspond to the reality that is happening in the world right now, why am i the only ukrainian woman at this conference, and there are so many russians? and this just happened when deo bought the kharkiv region and when izyum was opened and what was found there four article and to which the organizers of the conference replied to me that we cannot ignore the fact that in the baltic countries so many russian liberal journalists and oppositionists have found refuge there. to waste this time, i would rather go to the kharkiv region, to izyum, in the end, i will ask you what you think we can do in this situation and

whether we should do something, because it is obvious that there are many reasons. you and the russian-ukrainian war where this war does not exist, there are probably reasons why europeans consider it acceptable to invite a huge number of russian liberal journalists or activists and to invite, for example , someone from ukraine, but how should we behave here, in your opinion, and what should be explained in order to after all, well, such stories were not repeated, behave as a matter of principle, refuse if you see that such a list of participants, then refuse well, if you were invited to some cool country, now is not the time to travel and there is simply to go to a cool country to a conference. no, now all the questions are fundamental and at some stage they will understand anyway. well, if ukrainians don't participate, well, then the format needs to be changed somehow, but also in defense i want to

say that there is a certain misunderstanding there, there is the perception of ukrainians as too emotional, but there is also huge support , and you feel this absolutely at the everyday level in the little things, i am honest, when i left for the first time from abroad, i am here in my world, i am immersed in my realities here, everything well, i was shocked by the number of ukrainians there flags, inscriptions, ukrainians in ukrainian, something as a sign of support, it’s very nice, and that is , somehow, and i am also often asked about journalism. western journalism produces a huge amount of content about ukraine and visits the first positions of the front line of ukraine , and is fortunately still present in the mass media and let it be so that this ukraine continues to be covered and so far it is so, that is, the

world's attention is great to ukraine kristina thank you very much for this conversation and of course i wish you to return as soon as possible to political journalism, thank you, we studied for a long time to become who we are, we improved our skills and when the time came, we stood up to defend our country. build and create, repair and construct, but we are ready for resistance,

if you ask me who i am, i am probably an ordinary student, everything is supposedly not bad, but it’s just a curse of habits, i was late, what else anu sports, as the coach says, i will be a competitive person there are trips there are those whom i love whom i cherish people for whom i am an army the rules of a warm country

healthy care thank you for adjusting the heater and monitoring the sufficient temperature without spending money on the wind let's beat the winter together during a long power outage prepare products that can be stored for a long time without of the refrigerator keep the products from the refrigerator on the balcony, if possible, you can make reserves of hot water in thermoses for preparing fast food, get ready now, we will overcome the darkness together, they have already taken their children from the capital but there are those who forced to stay despite the active hostilities,

sick children are still in the grip of okhmatdyt children's hospital since the first days of the full-scale war, receiving wounded children and adults, and sometimes even whole families who came under peanut shelling, a morning rocket of the occupiers hit near the okhmatdyt children's hospital in kyiv it's again anxieties are constantly dying to the storage, the staff, some doctors are here for the fourth day in a row, i just knew that i should be here, it might be better to evacuate somewhere or be at home, well, i did not have such thoughts at all and, in principle, in to most of our doctors, we should be here and we are here. because we have to help the children, we have to help the wounded. we are now in the shelter of okhmatdyt. so we are in the shelter of the old

surgical building. at the time of february 24, all the surgical departments were located here, and in the first days, all patients were lowered into it. how many shelters, if in hours, how long would you be here in ukraine for the longest time without leaving here, well , probably 8 hours - this is at night, the thing is that those days are quite compressed, because it is impossible to say exactly what it was like days this is such a day it was the whole of march it was

continuous february 24 how did you find yourself at work on february 24 i was on duty from february 23 to 24 i was on duty and at 5 o'clock i got a call from home and they say that you are not watching the news, the war has started, we are being shelled, that's how it is and who was the person who called you, your wife, about the war? you learned from your wife while you were at work. that's because we don't have a tv in the resident's room. you found out when

your shift was supposed to end at 8 o'clock on february 4. your shift was supposed to end, but it ended at april, i can't even remember how we told my wife and family that you are at work all the time and you won't be coming to my place soon. my wife is a doctor. she understood everything and in principle, er, it was not possible to drive because er, when the curfew is no longer you will leave when the curfew is over, you will not come home. and then it was more dangerous to move around kyiv than to be there, and then i evacuated my family from kyiv, well, that is, they evacuated themselves, but at my insistence, because

we live in on the edge of kyiv and shells have already flown there, so stay at home it was dangerous to be in the hospital, well, it's the best option for the children to stay here, you see the injured children, that's why they evacuated to their parents in the village, and there it was. i think that at that time, it was the right decision. it was february 24 at five in the morning. you will learn about a full-scale invasion. what are you doing? then all the staff were well-informed at that time, the patients were not touched

by those who were sleeping, but around 7:00 a.m. apparently, we had already started organizing shelters and bringing patients down here, because at that time, there were no such obvious explosions near okhmatdyt on that time and immediately there was no such fear, then in a few hours it might already arrive in okhmatdit, and then the patients began to be lowered, and from nine o'clock patients began to be discharged en masse from the hospital, to free up places for the injured, planned operations on that day were canceled. well, and in the future, until april, all planned operations were canceled. who was sent to the shelter? who were these patients, children? well, we have a children's hospital. our patients are

all children and, in principle, children with their parents. basically, there was only one person from their parents because doubled are in the department, and one parent and child came down here , patients who could not walk, we brought them down here on the beds, at that time we were combined with the department of neurosurgery, and mainly the most difficult were precisely neurosurgical patients and their here we helped neurosurgeons bring patients down here to the construction site. because our patients have microsurgically damaged limbs, they could be seated on a gurney. those whose legs and arms were damaged could also go down on your own up the stairs when you realized at what

moment did you realize that you are stuck in the hospital and that you can neither leave nor leave here, there was no feeling that i was stuck here because at that moment everyone was quite friendly, everyone helped each other, so there wasn't any that i can't leave, i'm in a cage , that is, it didn't happen, on the contrary, in the hospital. we felt quite comfortable, as comfortable as it can be during military operations in in the department, but in the department, as a department

, we spent the night in the corridor, so that the rule of two walls in the wards was observed, of course, no one spent the night. that is, you actually slept with your patients in the corridor. the problem here is that the patients were located in the region in the new building and our staff was in this building because there was not enough space for all the staff from this building to the new one, so yes, and we broke up according to shifts, it is not that the whole department sleeps, but when needed, all the personnel did not have another shift, which was at night

uh, she was ready to help, and the others rested, and so we broke up into several shifts, that is, there was no time to do it. there was nothing to do. there was news, and someone was always following the news, because you had to be aware of what to expect. there were enemy troops somewhere. after dinner we had, if possible, m. well, as a distraction when we were studying in mathematics in physics we have a doctor who knows physics very well i know mathematics very well and we again took a school course on cosine sines tangent these things relieve your head yes they distract from those events because there is still excitement and at this time you are

distracted when you load your head with something else . yes, this is the first version , he told why the ball is steeper, never in the center, buy me a ball on the edge, why it wraps, and they don’t need the law of dinosaurs. and how do you know all this? i didn’t learn such a thing at school. they learned about the ball, so here i am

today, they explained yes and why when you are the case , the day you remembered so clearly what day is it clearly, february 26, and it was the evening, patients were brought to us from a shot car right near the ministry of transport on fighting was going on from the states and there came under fire, two families were traveling in this car, they were just hurrying to the station to evacuate. and at that time, i understand, there was a battle and they were shot at by the russian military and

brought to us from one family was there mother, father and son, father at that time, he died. and they brought to us a son and a boy, and the mother, there were just bullet wounds on the torso and limbs. and the child had facial injuries, our maxillofacial surgeons helped her. damage to the spine and damage to the limbs in it and there is a joint orthopedist and we provided help, and in the second family there was a boy, a girl and a mother, and the boy died immediately, unfortunately, he was brought to us already dead, and the girl received a hand injury and the bullet got stuck there

bones and hip injury, and my mother received a head injury and everyone was given help at once, even though it was my children's hospital, but then the management made a decision that help was provided to everyone regardless of age, and they were treated here, and parents and children, it's time. i remember february 26. and in general, the first patient was brought to us on february 24. that was when there was an explosion and this child unfortunately died because there was a severe wound in the neck with damage to blood vessels, and although our doctors made every effort, but a few days later all the same, the child died on a large scale invasion while you are here