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there that his health deteriorated so much that 200 uah was needed, and he is not important, it means that it was accompanied. the political is knitted in belarus and the oil game of this seven and the knees can stop in any case that everything is fine with the people that my health is in order that i do not have access to medical care, although of course objectively eh there winter is used verny vermikevskaya a-and there, political prisoners are now being sewn with yellow stickers on a--a new street as a way to distinguish them from other politicians, they are forbidden to talk to others, they are isolated from their vdmichevsky attitude, so mmm well, what can i say to kolesnikov, of course, now it’s time, but we’re reprimanding and she maintains a fairly high morale, i can literally say at the end that maria kolesnikova before uh,
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how she got involved in this political struggle. she was a successful successful musician, she is a conductor . not in belarusians, like many of us, eh, and yes, this is true, and kolesnikova was a musician, eh, yes, there were elections, eh, she lived in germany, and everything was good, eh, but this calling is what many belarusians led at that moment, i will not join in this struggle, throwing aside all the last things, both personal and professional, valery, finally, what is the current situation on the border of belarus with poland, lithuania and latvia, do you see an aggravation of the situation there and on the part of the lukashenko regime and those who implement it, the situation remains tense that's what there will be a bit of a lull as a tangent to illegal migrants. now we see the activation of hector in the direction of tsysyk again in the direction
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of european relations. goethe, the hetecrisis first of all does not appear as something organic, what is normal in the 21st when these people from migrants from the middle east were brought to belarus on special flights, too much money, stones, i promise that they can't cross the border with the european union without hindrance and will find themselves there to unite with their seven, then in fact people were used and the whole ghetto is under a regime i don't use e-e migrants because they will harm the european connection because they supported the democratic processes in belarus and what we see today that poland or two have actually already fenced themselves off from belarus with a high fence that does not allow migrants to pass, i'm just preparing the border for that step nowhere in our history has there been such physical barriers between our peoples that we have always been
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together somewhere, and of course it is possible to think the same way that the ukrainian authorities at a certain time can to save himself in the same way from similar provocations thank you very much for this conversation valery kovalevskyi, the representative of foreign affairs of the united transitional cabinet of belarus was in touch with us, they talked about the possibility of dragging out today's meeting between putin and lukashenka and whether it will have any consequences for ukraine , madam, i have the secretary of national security and defense of ukraine, oleksiy danilov, believes that the russians have reserves left for three or four missile attacks, but after that they will run out of all their reserves, which is unacceptable for of the military, if you count the large attacks that have already taken place in our country, then they have a maximum of two or three left . although , according to him, there is some reserve to leave the limit that according to the
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standards they should have kept, they have already passed it and passed it quite a long time ago, but he clarified that the russians have more or less enough s300 missiles in their arsenal that can be used according to the land-land principle. danilov noted that the military learned to shoot down iranian kamikaze drones with shahed 136, which the russians armed themselves with. they have shaheds, but i want to note that we have learned to fight them if there are no force majeure, then it was recently. when we all shot down 100% of what they sent , he emphasized, well, and obviously, we are talking about danilov's interview with ukrainska pravda, which was prepared a little earlier, because today's night attack by russian drones by the russian federation on us unfortunately demonstrated that they can still be destructive to our infrastructure and simply for our cities for our country and now a little about international topics oleksandr
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merezhko people's deputy of ukraine chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on foreign policy and inter-parliamentary cooperation and oleksiy goncharenko people's deputy of ukraine vice president of the committee on migration join us gentlemen welcome now let's talk about st. nicholas. thank you very much and you in turn. now let's talk about the trial in gas, in particular, but i would like to start a little from something else , continuing the topic that we just raised with valery kovalevsky, the representative of foreign affairs of the united transitional committee of the cabinet of belarus, we commented in particular on this visit, and putin's flight to minsk , and where he will meet with lukashenka . to recognize her as a representative more legitimate than lukashenka. do you or we not have the feeling that we are being quite careful, and here the politicians seem to be afraid to push lukashenka into putin's arms and somehow
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provoke him to this attack from the north? is it really true? do we follow such a cautious policy? well, if you could briefly start with your opinion, i would just like to respond. you just talked about mr. danilov's interview. you know, i know. with all due respect. -3 this is what he says is left for two or three launches. i heard this somewhere about 2-3 weeks and i would generally call on all ukrainians, especially representatives of the authorities. one thing is that some experts are unknown, they can basically say anything when it comes to the secretary of the national council security and defense it seems to me that we need to be more realistic and respect the citizens of our citizens here. well, because this is a little bit of a locker room, i trust general zabrodskyi, a
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former commando, that is cheap. russia, unfortunately, has missiles and there is no need to deceive yourself with this. and they will be able to make two, three, four or more launches over ukraine and intercept everything - we also cannot intercept today's attack on kyiv showed that it does not mean that we will not win we will definitely win and this russian tactic does not work, but in my opinion well, the ukrainians must prove that they are mature, intelligent people who lived there two revolutions, two invasions and we deserve the respect of a different attitude towards ourselves and we must tell the truth and not just something so simple to create a good mood on the eve of the new year. as for belarus and tykhanov, my personal opinion is expressed in the draft resolution of the verkhovna rada, which my colleagues and the democrats on the unification for a democratic belarus, they submitted an e-e, which involves recognizing belarus as occupied, that is,
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that lukashenko is nobody at all, it’s not even a dictator, he’s just putin’s viceroy there e-e, and it should be done a long time ago, it means interrupting all diplomatic relations , recalling the ambassador from minsk, because how can it be the ambassador to minsk, when drones and rockets are flying at us from there, and at the same time our ambassador is sitting here, i can’t understand it in principle. i just don’t understand. why are we doing this ? the belarusian position, and there the core is the transition of the cabinet and the belarusian volunteers who are fighting for ukraine, and here the nucleus is the kalinovsky regiment, these are the belarusians with whom we really have to cooperate, so please, mr. oleksandr, do you want to add something, well, this is a question. well, i would like to support my colleague in that regard that i also know that er lenovsky can become the nucleus that can become the basis of the government already in free belarus in the future, you know well, i would also like to express my
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personal subjective point of view. i think that you know, an example for us can be seen do you know such a belarusian general de gaulle or colonel de gaulle who in the future could contribute to the liberation of belarus and the creation of a democratic, legitimate government in belarus, let's continue then, er, let's talk a little about the gaza court, yes, the prospects of bringing the russian federation to justice as a state sponsor of terrorism, although it still needs to be recognized as such a country, we understand that a trend has emerged, but well, it is a large global company and probably for a certain period of time, well, besides, war criminals as, first of all, those who should be responsible well , the political leadership of this country
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can start an investigation against putin , for example, for attacks on infrastructure , the ministry of justice of germany informed mr. oleksandr about this, what do we know about this initiative, what are its prospects in the near future sometimes put into practice the fact is that the international criminal court, which is located in the hague, has jurisdiction over three types of crimes: war crimes, crimes against humanity and acts of genocide. unfortunately, in this in this case, he does not have jurisdiction over such a crime as aggression, and we are in favor of creating a special international tribunal, but what putin is doing is that he bears full international criminal responsibility for war crimes for acts of genocide and what is happening destruction of the infrastructure of the critical
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civilian infrastructure. this is considered and qualified from the point of view of international law as a war crime and putin is no longer hiding that he committed this crime. he even flaunts it and uh, i believe that it gives it is enough to put enough evidence for the international criminal court to take a close look at putin as a war criminal honcharenko yes, you have a word for the attacks on the infrastructure of the minions of germany. how do you think it is absolutely obvious that putin brought out a war criminal and he should be responsible for it responsibility and terrorists and all these, everything he does and they do it completely openly demonstratively, they are already there showing off, shouting on their propaganda channels, but now they are happy, which means that something has flown to kyiv, oh where is the civil infrastructure again these are direct crimes which, well, international law
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absolutely clearly defines. and sooner or later they will have to answer for all this and not only putin. how can anyone think that what is next is putin's fault. they all write about it. they all have to be responsible. this is not just a matter of punishment . and you don't just know justice on the part of ukrainians, but this issue is also important for the whole world because only the punishment of such criminals as putin and his entourage will be able to warn in the future that such things will never happen again in any world and the only answer here is the punishment of such criminals so that everyone has this example in front of their eyes. therefore, it is obvious that today putin is hiding from this with one nuclear weapon , and thanks to this, he is trying to use this story to somehow cover up his crimes and hide from responsibility behind his nuclear warheads, but he is sure that putin and his
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entourage are waiting for him. i have absolutely no doubts about this. there are other tribunals. i would generally be there if it were an international tribunal. i would like to see him in kharkiv or in mariupol in those you know the cities that suffered the most from this criminal, you recently saw a combat general speak there and no one listened to him in the verkhovna rada, half of the deputies turned their backs on him, to put it mildly . but in principle, we are not surprised because he once told this is the case when a canadian was here in the country, a young political scientist was just writing his ministerial work and i helped him get to the verkhovna rada, there was a meeting of the government that i was before the war and he was shocked by the speech of the prime minister half the audience didn't listen to him. and just recently there were roberto and mazzola, who spoke before the parliament, but she was not offended by the good news and is calling now to provide more weapons to ukraine. can this be
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converted into something, in your opinion, what do you say? and to thank mrs. mitolii and, in general, the european parliament, which adopts the correct resolutions. mr. oleksandr and i work together in the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, and we just started as a couple. this story about the recognition of the russian regime as terrorist was to you in october, and then many national parliaments and european parliaments picked up the baton. it was very powerful . well, today, weapons are the most important thing that we need to do. in general, the majority of the european parliament there, overwhelmingly, the majority of the european parliament show themselves to be true friends of ukraine, and for that, they are just a big thank you from all of us from this ukrainian people, oleksandr, can you also add something more on this topic? well, i also
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consider ms. roberto matsola a true friend of ukraine, what she does, you know it she does it with her soul because she understands, she is such a model politician for europe who gives an example of what needs to be done now how to help ukraine and really now the main question for us, especially on the eve of what can happen in the coming months, which are quite worrying, we need to have as much as possible high-quality western weapons in order to continue the counteroffensive and to completely liberate the entire territory of ukraine, including crimea, fortunately in the west there are quite a lot of such politicians as matsoli who support us and who support all this very well understand well, returning after all to the issue of fully bringing the russian federation and its individual characters to justice for what they are doing in
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ukraine, and i am concerned, or rather, even interested in what the world will look like after this aggression, after our victory, and after we will imprison everyone who needs to be so to speak, let's be honest, whoever we don't eliminate, we will imprison er, that means a crime for a crime of aggression and responsibility for a crime of aggression, to me it sounds really new and if we create a precedent, where is the country that solves is the conflict brought to justice, or in your opinion, dear people's elected representatives, will we not find ourselves in a beautiful new free world where no one will want to fight with anyone anymore because the very fact of aggression for any reason will be recognized as a potential crime by goncharenko absolutely this we must continue, and we see that the united states of america will also make a lot of efforts there, yes, we are all
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making efforts to recognize russia and the country there as a sponsor of terrorism, a terrorist country, a terrorist regime . well, we see that the united states does not want to make this decision for the time being, however, the idea of recognizing russia as an aggressor as an aggressor country and with corresponding legal consequences is being actively discussed there, and this can be a very powerful step in fact, and indeed, this will be a new story for them, in which they actually create a new tool for punishing such regimes and i think that this idea is very valid and it is absolutely necessary to develop in the international field everything that brings russia closer to punishment, all this must be supported. well, here it is impossible to say otherwise. and it is really terrible what they did this aggression was simply unleashed into a war in the center of europe, for that they should be punished , well, it is definitely p oleksandr, in your opinion, will this not lead to the hybridization of what we
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call war, open aggression, and countries such as, for example, the russian federation, if it survives after all this, even if it was in some format , dirty and terrorist methods will simply be used, so it will be more and more difficult to bring her to this responsibility. well, in fact, if you do not allow us to fight openly like they do they are doing it now, if you punish us for it, says any aggressive country, we will figure out how to do it under the rug, then of course there will be such attempts, but we must remember that modern international law is based on such principles as the prohibition of the use of force or the threat of force the use of force in international relations and this is article two, paragraph four of the united nations charter, the concept
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of the use of force is so comprehensive and it includes aggression and other hybrid forms of the use of force in international relations, that is, all this is prohibited by international problems, the question is somewhat different, the question is how to implement how to implement this ban on the use of force , the ban on the use of acts of aggression , we know that the main responsibility for the fight against acts of aggression belongs to who the security council of the united nations, but we see that it is not fulfilling its main mission, its main task, this indicates that we need to carry out a radical reform of the security council and the organization of the united nations so that this organization or a new organization with the maintenance of international peace and security that will appear
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is effective enough to combat any manifestations of violence and the use of force in international relations, including hybrid forms of the use of force, thank you thank you oleksandr merezhko, people's deputy of ukraine, chairman of the verkhovna rada's committee on foreign policy and inter- parliamentary cooperation, oleksiy honcharenko, people's deputy, vice-president of the committee on migration, thank you for these the thoughts are very appropriate, in my opinion, well, now we will talk about donetsk region and avdiyivka, we are in touch, yes, yes, we are in touch, well then, let's start this work of the avdiyiv city military administration, mr. vitaly, we congratulate you, thank you, we know how difficult it is to join the broadcast and we really appreciate that you are doing it, thank you. and in ukraine, i congratulate the people of avdiyiv in the surrounding area, as of today, they are pressing, maybe
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there is some kind of dynamic, please, yes, they are really pressing , well, listening to the previous speakers of oleksandr merezhka, yes, international law. the un security council well, i think that the landslide is all resolved . well, in our opinion, the guys here are solving every day 24/7 for 9 months in a row, uh, they've been pressing and climbing at night uh, well, let's just say that the city was generally quiet a- but there was not a single arrival in the morning, isolated arrivals began, and then a little more and more activation was complete already in the morning, everything and the aviation was in the city and there were these cassette flash drives, the so-called shrapnel, there were already in the city the spoiler artillery of mortars. that is, well but in the morning everything was started at 15 plus minus and here it is well, in short, they love it all the time. and on account of the
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line of defense around the city, the night was more or less calm, there were some chaotic, isolated flights in positions, but in the morning everything was very hot, very, very here, well, active from the south to the north. well, almost, well, in the morning there have already been er-er six test-assault actions, the guys repelled everything, and well, a big thank you to them for that. it was a little frosty in us, er, before that, it was raining for several days in a row, well, creepy, creepy , you know, looking at how it all happens, how they climb well, like cockroaches that's really how cockroaches climb, not even counting the people, not the equipment, they changed the equipment a bit, they probably are more faithful to their offensive strategy. they must have brought the equipment anyway, because it took a couple of weeks for the manpower to leave the equipment. not really, but it's already three. well,
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maybe for the fourth day in a row, tanks are again in operation, and there are really a lot of them, the ship is carrying some losses, while the enemy is attempting an assault. well, we are, what are we talking about ? she something flew there, uh, somewhere in general, the people do n't see what the guys see, nobody cares about it, but in reality i, well, i think that i lost a lot more of them than we show, because of the general staff, what about vitaly, one more question is possible. well, there is an understanding what is happening in donetsk, well, avdiyivka is very close to donetsk, and there they constantly report about the
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arrivals, of course, they blame the defense forces of ukraine, although this is absolutely not our tactic. this is how we destroy the enemy force when it is concentrated and when it is safe for the local population, even the fools are gone even among local people who can clearly hear when it takes off, where it takes off and where it flies, everyone says that it is about shelling from the occupied territories , as now in general in donetsk, you may know, yes, there is avdiivka from donetsk, if you take our outermost avdiivka street and the outermost part of the presidency, then the distance 6.3 km that is, it is very close, that is why even we in the city sometimes hear that it is flying to donetsk and and in general. at night , it is even visible from where it is flying if there are certain er locations er let’s say where in our city you can see it where does it fly and where does it fly from? donetsk is now a
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city of brides like ivanova. once upon a time here in russia they said yes because there are no men. those who didn’t manage to escape or hide somewhere are already mobilized and already serving, but it really flies around the city. but we can see how it flies and where it goes, and before the war i lived in donetsk, i know the city very well and the locations that they show, and looking even from which direction it came, well, there is no doubt that it flew from side of makiivka, that is, in makiivka , there is not a single unit there at all of the armed forces of ukraine and flies from a small house a-ah even that flight that was at the ramada hotel, well, it can be seen from there, it flew from makiivka, eh, to people, of course. well , let's watch these videos. they have been
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bombing for eight years and we are not used to it, well, that is, they are not used to it, because they used to say that we have a bandit in the sbu, but they really only started bombing and well, i will tell you. yes, even until the beginning of june , in general to all our units of the armed forces of ukraine who stood in our direction there was a direct ban on beating in the city of donetsk even at the beginning of june. it was already full-scale for more than one month and there was a ban now, and if something is working, then it is really working due to accumulation in bc warehouses, etc. it makes no sense, that is, we don't have so many weapons and ammunition to lose to intimidation. why? well, there are some acquaintances still left in donetsk who tell
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us what is happening there, what people are talking about, even you understand correctly that even there already people are starting to say well, what are they doing to us fools, we can see where it is flying from and what it is flying, well, that is, how can a mortar fly, yes, an expert in the direction of donetsk, and well, the mortar is not even there, some kind of there uh, rocket artillery, not barrel long-range, as they say there, three sevens worked on us, well, if three sevens worked, it would have been a different destruction in general, and in general, everything would have been much larger. and in general, there is no electricity in the city of voda, and there are also interruptions not all areas have water she appears wherever she appears. she is mostly for 2-3 hours, twice a week, and she is like that. well, she is even stainless steel , she is kind of, well, unclear, even some such people say that they all smell, well, they are some kind of
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mechanics, that is, and everything is very just the sfs donetsk filtering station, which they themselves did not let it in until the plenipotentiary until the beginning of the full-scale this well, to be honest, until the moment when the russians remained in the area of the raisin and in general, the kharkiv bridgehead , it was clear to me why they were pressing so hard towards avdiyivka yes, donetsk and here is avdiivka, that is, they are trying to make a loop in fact. our defense forces are right here, right here , in the area of north donetsk, which was not yet occupied at the time. the lysychan language will also speak about slavic, about kramatorsk, now there, here is bakhmut. our yes and god of health have knocked the russians out of the kharkiv bridgehead, they no longer have any chance to somehow encircle, encircle, as they say, but
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they continue to fight something er head on this well, our defense to break through well, in fact, i i don't know if it's realistic at all, considering that if we weren't stupid and spent eight years there preparing for what might happen, you have an understanding of what they want in general, what kind of strategic goal? well, you know even the prisoners the guys took during interrogations. we asked why well, the detector, well , bakhmut, is it plus or minus, it’s clear, you can explain the industrial city, uh, uh, the exit to kostyantynivka, to kramatorsk, slovyansk, that’s another plus or minus, you can explain the really big cities at the expense of avdiyivka they say we don’t know that is we were told to run we let's run er, er, er, to my personal, which do you know, er, calculation, i think that first of all, it happened a reservoir, because it is, er,
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before the war, it was er, a reserve of drinking water, the city of donetsk, now from the first reservoirs , er, draw water, tsilidova, novogrodovka , pokrovsk, mirnograd, kurakhovo, that is, these are the er-e cities that are now pokrovska. well, that’s the gate to the donetsk region in general. it’s very much the center now, and it’s clear that they need er-er, that’s why they are there every day several times in a row they hit the karlov reservoir on this dam on this filter station, sometimes there is light and all these cities that i mentioned earlier they remain without water for a certain period, what they need and what actually unites the situation in the east of our country and in the south of our country if we talk about occupied crimea is one of the key factors. thank you, mr. vitaly, thank you
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