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to support so much thanks to the money and thanks to the military support that was provided by the russians during the period of the mass people’s accession to belarus, so they understand that of course lukashenko, the master of foreign political maneuvers attack and the events of the last few years were completely closed for lukashenko on the way out in the other direction to the west, so of course they understand that he is in the kremlin, they understand that lukashenko is in power, in fact, he is playing cat and mouse. as a matter of fact a-a well, otherwise, he is a reference guide for the vole of the kremlin, well, that is, they do not respond seriously to such statements, so you can summarize your answer yes, of course, of course, why is it clear, mykola, one more question for you, let’s say a few words about an article that appeared a few days ago appeared in the columns of the american edition of the new york times, one of the main
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points there was about the apparent russian invasion of ukraine, which began on february 24 of this year, and there this main one of the main points was that putin himself makes decisions, no one in russia can convince him of anything, and in the end no one really tried to convince him whether there would have been an invasion of mykola in ukraine if he had been loyal to russia as the president in ukraine, because in the same article he writes that the big hopes were placed on volodymyr zelenskyi, but he did not show himself the way they wanted to see him , relatively speaking. if he showed himself the way they would like to see him in the kremlin, would there have been an invasion? or, after all, there was not. because in the same article they said it is said that putin well, he already has some well, i don’t know, he is bent on history and this imperialism sits in him, please, the question of the
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existence of ukraine as a state for the kremlin with the vector of the development of ukraine that it chose in the 14th year is a -a obvious red linnyk a-a the kremlin has repeatedly stated er-er in relation to the nato bloc about the attitude of ukraine about the non-aligned status of ukraine and a-a if the deputy presents the whole situation that here is the situation at the beginning of the year in ukraine such a hyperloyal russia a-a the president well, at first it would be forced to recognize a-a crimea a-a russian from the side of ukraine because of the donbass issue then a sooner or later the invasion still happened in one form or another and that's why russia twisted the president in his hands. how did it happen before, including on the gas issue ah, or indeed it was provoked by someone, they say, they were killed, and uh, accordingly, the invasion would have started, because in the line of the kremlin, uh,
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ukraine is weak, ukraine is not capable of defending itself, and ukraine should not exist separately, that is, or in the composition of this новый империи, in which также планировался беларусь включить либо неак p mykola and one more question regarding just this article in the new york times. is it really the case that nobody in the kremlin can convince putin right now? is there not a single person there with whom putin can talk and that's all well, you're right. no, of course, over the course of 20 years, there have been 30 non-elections of putin's entourage . who profess the ideas of dudin and other russian fascists, and putin has been in this information bubble for quite a long time. at such a specific
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time, therefore, who will say something against him if they are all clear, mr. boris, now i have a question for you, lately, in recent weeks, i have heard from the expert environment that lukashenko and you after all, they already said in the program today that lukashenko will be afraid to introduce troops into the territory of ukraine because he will be afraid of this resistance. and you have already mentioned the partisans who may be in the territory of belarus, because belarus is a historically partisan region, but let's not talk about the partisans, let's talk about ordinary citizens of belarus in general. they listen to lukashenka. they may nod their heads. some even agree with him. some even agree with him. belarus is this resistance possible in the event that lukashenko gets something like this into his head and he leads troops into ukraine for this reason, or is this
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resistance all the same only outside the borders of belarus . i mil, i mean that in the case of the army’s fate, there are detailed preparations for the army’s fate, there are more belarusians, and they will try with all their might to avoid calling maxim and mobilization. byelorussians understand exactly what this war is unnecessary for, simply because ukrainians are our close friends, and secondly , the belarusian model in gogole is a national idea on a piston there for 10 hours , in fact, after the second world war , it was built on the jewels of the measure on they told me how important the peaceful sky
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is, and for that, expensive belarus understands that no matter what war, he does not want to be involved in any kind of war, when sociology in a dictatorship certainly does not work and cannot be cossack detailed sociological figures of the alley of course, such investigations are carried out inside belarus. incense is not absolutely prohibited, and it is not allowed to carry official investigations, which in part say about witch- moths . well, russia is really slow down and ready to deal with it, that is, it is such a miserable hardness. of course, there are no ten percent of the public who have fallen under the influence of propaganda, and propaganda in belarus is now working in a very strict mode. because we work not only byelorussian about some dozens of public,
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they undermine, conditionally speaking, russia, the alley is the same super traction as belarus was engaged in, and it is clear that, well, half of the public horse, sex, about detail . this case in belarus is clear . that's why putin's visit and lukashenka's position also made us understand. well, it's simple, and belarus will do everything . stonemasons will break their own hands, feet, fingers. i'm not going to hide there. the war began and it became silent, it is clear that there will be mobilization in belarus, they introduced who knows how many belarusian men, they started to leave the border simply banal, because the appeal of prozonenko does not hit, do not participate in the draft. i think that such an applied picture will play out, because every belarusian understands the army is dense belarusian troops belarusian troops well, how
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would the belarusian troops from afghan times in general not attract audel nivykykh military operations seriously and in the forest in ukraine, of course, there with everything else eh sweet with everyone other illusions and no one wants to die, the potion of the forest, there are few dictators there. well, that's how much sena, well, five can be seven percent, some of them will soak up russian propaganda for that much. well, again, i have my private parking, but i note that putin is afraid of the ion in detail, and you know that once upon a time, the minister of frozen affairs of belarus, vladimir, suddenly died. what can it be? okay, they poisoned these people, nicky, lukashenko, first of all, more of our journalistic countries showed that it was
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a natural death, just a person, er, lego had a heart attack, and she didn't have time to drag it, or ah, well, take a look to what extent are the russian special services involved in the belarusian special services? yes, the russians play different roles there and in different organizations . тычится маших well, let's say so. well, i think that lukashenko, and this is a completely understandable substitute, well, they are afraid of putin, they are just afraid, but no one is afraid of physical violence, because today they will change the regime in belarus, introduce even more military forces into belarus, and say that , oh, we are taking belarus under control, in principle, well, no one prevents the russians. yes, the only thing is that the imperial drive is the absence
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of the same troops that would enter belarus right now. you took belarus under the control of all kinds of special services, and they are already present. mykola, i have a question for you: does putin understand that lukashenko is not just afraid of him, but he is in some sort of subordination? and that he is afraid of putin? lukashenko is a cat and mouse, and in this sense, i am sure that there is a reserve plant in the kremlin in case lukashenko takes some critical position on his elimination. oh, it means the enjoyment of his loyalists and the occupation policy directly in belarus. and i i agree with boris, er, the entire structure of state bodies in belarus is completely filtered by russian agents , of course it is special, it concerns the power
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bloc. yes, will lukashenko send his troops into ukraine , 202 people have already voted, there is still time to join, and the answers are yes, no, your option is yes , 44% think so, no, 54%, your option is two percentages uh, which version will be available to read after the program is finished? right here on youtube and now 1,004 people are watching us on youtube. watch and join. more of this is on that channel, which is specially created for our program. do you remember what else you can watch on to the general channel of the
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espresso tv channel, mr. mykola. what do you think? why do you think? well, because putin has nothing to say directly to the population, that is, he has already said that there is no mobilization . eh, with a vulnerable layer of the population, and work on the successes, eh, and what does it say that they left kherson, and it says that they lost 40,000, so it means that the war of mobilized servicemen, therefore, eh , in this sense, eh, there is nothing for the society to give eh and unwanted questions unpleasant questions, of course, he hears, does not want exactly that's why his activity is a-a let's say that it is separated from the public
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. to the russians in the brains, that 's all, and that means the propagandist in history, simonenko and solovyov skabeeva , and so on. he will say. it seems to me that they are looking at him. i have this impression. look, from what i see sitting in ukraine and watching, i have to watch russian tv channels from what i see. it seems to me that in russia, in particular, somewhere in the hinterland, putin is really being looked at as for the tsar the liberator and when this tsar the liberator of the russian lands will say what they can say. for example , simanyan or skabeev, this will have a greater influence, well, of course, only now for this, there is no need for that volume of
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mobilized which they wanted to collect, they collected for the next wave, it may require their participation, but at the moment it is not necessary, therefore, there is no need for them to smell the scalps with a ball. by the way, they are talking . another offensive, and again on the internet, in particular, the institute for the study of war says that this offensive in an interview, uh, ignorant, general zaluzhnyi, our commander-in-chief also said about it. what the offensive might be. it might be in february or in march, do they know anything about it in russia itself? i mean ordinary people who, well, one day putin may announce another wave of mobilization, well, let 's put it this way, people are not very interested in the russian war, and it's happening somewhere on tv, it's just that it's not it directly concerns the person in the family when they are ill, so in this sense, people are
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quite supportive on this topic, and it applies to this question. what concerns the possibility of a performance, but it is completely obvious that, after those russian failures, armies after the successful control of the entry of the armed forces of ukraine, the war will not end. putin intends to continue this war further. he has already publicly spoken about putting the economy on the mobilization rails, that is, eh, apparently, eh, the price of cannon fodder is absolutely not worth it to the kremlin. it is necessary to complete the tasks, therefore. yes, i expect that russia will accumulate enough resources again, and active hostilities will begin. of course, this is bad, but our armed forces are ready. but boris is ready for this . you have a question. please tell me a little bit about this with mr. mykola, uh, again, returning to today's visit of putin to lukashenko
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. we need to look for something like that. what is not there? no, it’s not detailed. i think it’s simple. well, it shows the maximum seriousness for that visit. earlier, putin and lukashenko could contact each other by phone. lukashenko himself came to moscow, of course. this is what the relationship looks like for those two presidents. putin himself is going to minsk, this means that ion m-m. i think so everywhere. lukashenko is absolutely short. it is clear. my set is actually not subject to obfuscation , that is, this is a condition conditionally. putin, they are playing , yes, there is no demand. that is how i see it. which are supposed to be considered in silence that there will be no serious hamlet, of course lukashenko can be profitable for you and for himself, but some small
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things, but when putin arrives, yes, lukashenko - this means that he is visiting, this is a personal message, he wants to say it together maybe it's a certain meaning and another sign for the sly one that the wax will look at me, i can come to minsk safely меня это this is what it looks like from putin's side , it's interesting, mykola, look, russia again, this is information, and today, unfortunately , these iranian drones have already attacked kyiv , so russia has ordered again, and iran has handed over new drones to russia. it is not yet known whether iran will hand over to russia the ballistic missiles that russia is asking for, which may indicate that russia cannot produce them itself because the sanctions are in effect, or maybe something else?
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yes, of course, we are talking about drone production anyway. yes, modern microelectronics technologies are effective, chips that russia does not produce on its own, and in this sense , a significant role was played by russian corruption under slavut, which destroyed many production chains , including vpc and now urgent russian the authorities are trying to rebuild all these production processes, and thirdly, of course, this means that in a global war, russia, iran, is a state of state sponsors of terrorism, i do not rule out that, in this sense, the west's response will be it's not exactly the same. it's clear. well, look at you, mr. mykola, but in practice, the question will be addressed to mr. boris, so the european union is saying that
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the countries of the european union are talking about the fact that there should be a tribunal against putin and all those heinous things that are inevitable are taking part in this aggressive war in ukraine, unfortunately, the foreign ministers of the eu member states last week did not make such a joint decision about this tribunal, they say that putin will have to be tried in the gas in the court that already exists, the tribunal should be created so i have a question for you, mr. mykola, is putin afraid of this tribunal or is he listening to all these conversations in the urals or altai? i don’t know where he sits there, he listens, laughs and continues to live on. principle for the kremlin tyrants, this is a-a quite obvious history, then remember at least stalin or ivan the terrible a-a, of course, he
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is afraid of treason, of course, he is afraid that his entourage can betray him, that they can betray him, hang everything on him, and that's a lot for you and i suspect that when the countries of the european union talk about the fact that this tribunal should also try people who carried out putin's orders, it is obvious that the speech there is also talk about oleksandr lukashenka although they don't talk about him directly. what do you think, can lukashenko be afraid of such a tribunal or will he still slip away in his own style ? moments in general , er, putin now actually went to a-bank ruts on there after the first months of the war with
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putin and the suspension community, well, there was a certain pause and, in principle, the collapse of the world , about that i will silently agree with the desert in back and military money, yes, this is an idea , well, if some conversations were considered, we will say yes, of course, for ukraine, this is unacceptable, but in european offices you sometimes hear such statements, yes, now we see that putin has also made a decision for himself from the kyiv bank in this war and uh, in fact, constancy is the law, that’s all. yes, and of course uh , the defeat for which will mean goethe ’s tribunal, although uh, according to the example of adolf hitler, we understand that a personal ion just before the tribunal may not survive uh ego but all who carry out red orders they i say this not only as a person who met the war on february 24 in kyiv and not only as
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a colleague of those dozens of journalists killed in ukraine by russian troops, but simply as a person living in europe, i understand the crimes of russia ian lukashenko is definitely the same thing. well, i wouldn't want this to happen to a tribunal, and for some reason european cabinets traditionally don't separate lukashenko from putin. we share only the territory we know, but it seems to me that the current belarusian dictator has much less silence for his own defense, for his own nick, and well, protection for whatever he will provide for himself low level, uh, i think that there are more threats and putin has a bunker of bunkers, the bunker is lowered, after all, and these are not the nuclear stockpile, the lake
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button, but to get to the belarusian president , well, with good schedules, in principle, i think that eh -e supersegomu will play and own nomenclature, which will probably change at some point in time. something will change in our country. it is rare for us to have such a detailed, practical nicole, but lukashenko's position in this regard is much weaker than that of the fighter . well , lukashenka obviously does not have a nuclear button, but he said that he would ask putin to give him missiles capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. do you still have information about whether there are such missiles already on the territory of belarus, i am sure that putin does not have any nuclear missiles, lukashenko will not give them. putin does not understand his pirvaha in front of lukashenka. nitroka and economic because the belarusian economy is today russian, but also the armed
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one is a sign of the military state, so it is not about a nuclear button for lukashenka. there is absolutely no point in talking. yes, i think that putin considers lukashenko only excluded as a bridgehead for the launch of a missile by the silent concentration of his troops. how is it such a strategic enterprise? provision of their troops, and it is like on the bridgeheads for mobilization, there may be no hundreds of thousands of people, who could join this war, it is not about any independent lake policy, but only about the independent launch of any rockets the detailed idea of the conversation is clear. while you were talking, mr. boris, our viewers had the opportunity to see the photos in these photos on the air . right now, we are showing the hall
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where lukashenko will meet, and then, as we can see, there should be quite a lot there . there are a lot of people on both sides of the chairs, well, let's see what they will say, mr. mykolo, and one last question for you, please. the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, oleksiy danilov, said that there are about for 4-5 massive launches, it is obvious that they will not do them, because if they release all the missiles, they will be left with nothing. it is obvious that there are also s300 missiles. but that is another story, and there are very few such accurate long-range missiles that can to meet the reality, there really are not many missiles in russia, well, let's just say that the whole envy statue is specific to the types of missiles, there is a significant amount of a-a aviation missiles of the old model, of course , they are not high-precision, but they can also cause
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damage. as for modern weapons, then there is calibration in some and so on, and yes , russia’s significant reserves have already been used up , and they cannot be restored in a short period of time, although the russian industry cannot, although there is a well- known case that these are already sanctioned goods er, they entered russia and they were equipped with drones and missiles, but er, i think that these supply channels are not so many, they are er, including the west , and therefore the russian federation will not be able to quickly restore its missile potential. well , that makes me happy . thank you, thank you for participating in today's program with me today on direct skype were boris horetskyi, the deputy head of the belarusian association of journalists and mykola polozov, a lawyer. we obviously talked about russia and belarus about their close relations. everything can lead and it's obvious what kind of threat
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these countries can be for us. now let 's quickly see how you vote. i'll remind you. i asked you a question: will lukashenko send his troops into ukraine ? 48% answered yes, 50% answered no. %, and your option is three percent. you can watch it after the program has finished - it will be taken off the air. 1,678 people are watching us now on a specially created channel. thank you to everyone who watches us . thank you for your likes. they are not there and thank you for your comments. well, i am forced to conclude due to lack of time . my name is yuri fizer. see you soon. we are
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looking for 17-year-old liberty bodnar, who disappeared again in the capital at the beginning of october. the child left a specialized medical facility in the podilsk district without the permission of the doctors. she is leaving , no one knows where she may be now, so your help is extremely important. at the moment , investigative search operations are being carried out. a separate one so that she could be rejected there or something like that no, she can simply appear on the street, including in other bags of our country, look carefully at the photo of the girl, she looks like her 17-year-old liberty, her height is about 165 cm, she is thin, she has long blond hair hair on the day of the disappearance she was wearing exactly as in this photo black sweatpants with white writing on the left leg a black sweatshirt and a dark jacket with a pink
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lining if anyone has seen liberty bodnar does anyone know where she may be now delay and call us on the magnolia child tracing service hotline at the short number 116 000 0 calls from any mobile operator are free or write to the child tracing service chatbot in telegram any information is important, i want to note that the story of this girl is very difficult and at the same time already quite famous because liberty bodnar was wanted for more than one and a half years, she disappeared in the capital for the first time in january 2020 and she was 15 years old at that time. they are a very interesting name liberty, that's why she sometimes calls herself leyka angelica eh sometimes can change her name mrs. tatyana psycho center of socio-psychological rehabilitation children come here when their families have difficult life circumstances or
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