the mentors also discussed in detail the border , protecting the border with both russia and belarus , this is also a constant priority, we are preparing for all possible defense scenarios. whoever inclines minsk to what, it will not help them either. like all other sick ideas in this war against ukraine and ukrainians mr. valery, well, obviously the question was and remains relevant, the diplomatic relations of kyiv and minsk, i once asked you about it, but since this question can be asked in the development of the situation that is developing in the ukrainian-belarusian relations, i will ask myself this question once again at the end of 2023. what prevents ukraine from breaking diplomatic relations with the republic of belarus, since it is an accomplice of russia in the current aggression, and what

consequences this may have for the ukrainian state in particular. so that it was some kind of effect. i still wore an additional one, but in my opinion it was nothing. belarus is participating in the war. by the way, iran is supplying uh, well, weapons are being trained on the territory of belarus. therefore, really it should have been done yesterday, that is, i think from the point of view of justice, it should be done more than that, it is necessary to ban the entry of citizens of belarus into ukraine, so it can be done simultaneously with the europeans now lithuania latvia estonia in lithuania the initiative was passed not to sell weapons e- to the belarusians to the russians well, they are still looking at whether to extend the ban on entry to belarus for them too. for now, there is still entry. i think our

partners should simultaneously look at this issue, uh, it's not about how we treat belarusians, there are belarusians which in the krylinovsky regiment is fighting for freedom, the freedom of belarus for ukraine, there are belarusians there, for example, cyber-partisans hmm, there are belarusians, well , the political position is that they do not fight much there, but somewhere there they make statements, go somewhere , i asked for it but no matter what, we must understand that those belarusians who now on the territory of belarus, citizens can use reversal operations and you won't know who is good belarus, bad belarus it should be banned well, i say this question once again, it is necessary to synchronize from our webinar, ban entry well, at least well at least look at the more meticulous procedure for registration of such entry for citizens of conscription age there men, i know that in our country, in principle, de facto, such measures are

taken well, but with the break in relations, let's look at the statements now. i think that this would be the right opportunity if the statements will again be in vyshenka aggressively disparaging the president of ukraine and the statement that we are here from russia further than you the whole run-up, then we have to tear it up at once relative lukashenko with putin and shoigu. the chairman of the security council of moldova, oleksandr mustya, accused the russian federation of preparing aggression against his country for 2023. it will happen, he said , and this statement was made today . do you think that putin has already said goodbye to

his idea of ​​passing through the southern regions of ukraine and entering moldova? does the current statement of the head of the security council of moldova still indicate about the fact that they have some additional data that testify to putin's plans in 2023 from the same transnistria to start some military operations against the republic of moldova, well , let's start with the fact that the military and those who deal with security look at different scenarios and take into account the most difficult scenarios how to react to them is correct and in this sense, i think that it is absolutely quite probable and even uh well, before the events of the 24th and 24th, we saw that the russians were planning such and such steps to connect the so-called southern corridor there and go further through odesa on

transnistria is a hotel that was, but they remain. they haven't gone anywhere, that is, they still have a desire. the scenario is on the table. moldovans understand more and more that it will not be possible to simply sit through this war, that you have to think after all, despite it, it is possible. helps, what steps is lithuania taking? and what are you moldovans doing, and moldova is sitting and waiting for everything to settle down? well, thank you for accepting our people, although, to be honest, the situation is different there, but mostly they

come mainly they come through moldova and there are european funds moldova is going for compensation, so the moldovan position does not surprise me because there are difficult processes within society and what sandu is doing as an example. she simply proceeds from what she has, what is the situation. it's simple and they want to change the political situation in moldova, we have to take this into account in ukraine, when we invite moldova there, it's more, faster, everything is the same. i still urge the government of moldova to see where they can make a contribution. i would say that the key contribution would be theirs through certification now. relations with romania as a nato eu country in order to see what will happen in the event of such approaches by the russians there to moldova. the fact is that it is no longer a question of the fact that it is necessarily a land border, you see, russia uses strategic aviation sends ships and missiles to ukraine, and whoever stops it, they will send it with a thunderbolt. well, that's why

missiles are already falling there, and they can still send them. yes, this is all a global war, but the other day, the pope said finally, this is a global war. i just don't understand why in a global war, only ukraine has to keep this resistance, that is, there must be global challenges to a global war, let's start with regional answers, it is our neighbors who help us with weapons, but one way or another, if there is a threat, they will be forced to go further to react, to participate in the war, this poland is also slovakia, this is romania and hungary, no matter what , morgan is spinning like an ear to this in a frying pan in a frying pan, everything is equal, these are threats that are approaching these borders, so i would still like more decisive, decisive actions, hopeful scenarios putin's russians will not be implemented , therefore there are scenarios, such plans are already laid out for

options for military operations, but they will not be implemented because it is called becoming ukraine, mr. valery, and on december 30 it will be 100 years since the formation of the soviet union and in fact, the year 2022 was obviously chosen by putin for a large-scale invasion of the ukrainian state for a reason and not by chance. the kremlin apparently planned until december 30, 2022, well, at least to make some kind of mini-weapon or something similar with the participation of part of ukraine, obviously moldova, obviously belarus, and obviously the son of the pov the reason is that vladimir putin does not come out with an annual message, as it is stipulated in the constitution of the russian federation , and does not come out to the annual press conference because there is nothing true to say to him. yesterday he

gathered both children and young men there and gathered some pseudo-organization there at that time spoke in front of them, well, that is, something similar to the komsomol members or the yellow boys. i don’t know what, probably, they will choose something in the middle there, and still, can it be said that in 2022 in 2008, putin's failure in ukraine and the failure of the blitzkrieg of the russian army put an end to the effort to revive the soviet union, and this ten-month period of large-scale invasion shows that there simply cannot be any return to the soviet union. i believe that this is the beginning of such conclusions. as you said, it was still in the 90s in ukraine and gradually it gained momentum. whoever was in power, well, then yanukovych tried to hand over

the country to the russians simply for a priceless price. such was the period, but the final point is all- well, not exactly like ostap, but the basic one was set in 2014, that is 13-14 years, it was precisely the struggle of the ukrainian people for this freedom, for not returning to prison this soviet system and this authoritarian dictatorial model, people went to the maidan for this and the orange revolution began revolution dignity is over, let's not forget that people died for it in kyiv and on other squares, several hundred people and the heavenly hundred that we are talking about in the 14th year . not a point f- isn't there such a stake or a stake in the soviet coffin from the soviet union, now we drive such a stake precisely in the soviet union to

break with that essence in this spirit and all that is connected with it those tenets from which the russians, belarusians of kazakhstan cannot escape the uzbeks, that is, these countries. i feel very sorry for them. they can puff out their cheeks as they please. they are slaves. until they break out of this slavery, nothing good will happen to them. and we are breaking out of this slavery now. uh, these invaders just want them to finally leave our land. in other words, this is already the final stage, so i believe that the soviet union has already buried its coffin in a pit for a long time. well, now the question is who will fall there together a few more weeks ago, mr. valery, the former chancellor

of the federal republic of germany, angela merkel, stated that the minsk agreements concluded between russia and ukraine in 2014 and 2015, respectively, were a freezing of the conflict and not its solution and gave ukraine precious time to become stronger, well, easier saying i would prepare for war, she said about this in an interview not in the newspaper website on december 7 and this caused a rather stormy reaction in the kremlin, indeed, the minsk agreements can be interpreted in this way, that the minsk agreements were an attempt to restrain russia and prepare to a large-scale war and that the ukrainian side really did not intend to fulfill the minsk agreements. well, let's do it, i will not comment directly on your question, because this is also a question of the russians

. i suddenly told the truth, that is, i will tell the truth. yes , the events are very recent, and they can still be used as an interpretation. i will tell you less facts. january and february 2015 , all months, more than 290 of our brave soldiers, women and men, died. now the numbers even more terrible, but at that time there were 300 people per month every month, which you can read about on the wall at st. michael's cathedral. you can see how many before that. and how suddenly, in january, february, the russians apparently went on the offensive in the offensive that is happening now, the same they went then the fact that

any military that will be involved will tell you at that time the road to kyiv was open, we did not have such an opportunity as it is now to protect the capital. talking about the situation compared to the 22nd year is also not the best, but the situation has changed a lot, we have the armed forces, we have the equipment, and in the end it got a source . well, the first defense by the british was the weapon of stinghira , although there were no such things, the way was open, we to you can verify things when, even in the 22nd year, how much did they reach, and then it was opened, so the purpose of all these meetings in minsk, and not only the 15th of the 14th year, is primarily to stop the offensive of russia , that is, to stop the offensive and well, no matter what was this goal was achieved in the 15th. and all the other

moments, how did it affect the future, or was it possible to throw russia out of the territory of ukraine even then? the nuances that i know, i would not like to announce publicly now, i can say from my point of view. and also in on our social networks on youtube and facebook, for those who are currently watching us on youtube, i will say that you can like this video and you must do it and subscribe to our youtube page, in addition, you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel under this video there is a button that it's called sponsoring . click on this button and

you will receive all the instructions on how to support our e-e youtube channel. besides, we work on various social networks, including on the espresso tv website. read us 24 hours a day on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, we work for you. well , since we already mentioned the dead, valeriya, just a few weeks ago , a documentary about angela merkel was released in germany. i have already seen this documentary. it is true that it has not yet been dubbed into ukrainian, but it was filmed by the german company luxfilm i was at the presentation of this film. actually, there is a lot said about her, but the relations with russia and putin are somehow presented without her participation in the normandy four. documentary film, how much do you think germany is the angels of merkel and the current germany,

how much have they changed in their approach to the issue of ukraine and that, well, i understand that in history there are no conditional actions, but it would be if merkel were the chancellor of germany now, but not schultz, well , let's start with the fact that the changes really took place, in my opinion, very serious, but they did not take place immediately, or a few months ago, the position of the official berlin was not much different from what chancellor angela merkel led in principle, well in fact, the famine of scholz, the current chancellors, he was, well, in the same politics at that time, he held the same position, if not to say well, more conservatively . i.e. people

demand other decisive actions of germany and therefore these politicians are forced to change their words believe me angela merkel would also say something completely different in a different way e at this stage therefore leaders play a very important role but decide peoples decide, parliaments decide governments , that's why i can't say what happened, no matter what happened here, it's important who was... what would have happened in ukraine , then what would have happened in other countries, i don't know, i won't give it like that. i'll just say that germany is a colossal amount . and are taking place, and the trigger and catalyst of these changes is exactly ukraine, exactly ukraine, the future of germany depends a lot on us, mr. ambassador, to what extent does mr. ambassador now

have an influence on the foreign policy of the united states of america and on world politics in general? some ingher i'm sorry because the unification of ukraine with nato and the return to the borders on february 24, he says that this is exactly how he sees peace between kiev and moscow in his text b, he justifies himself and writes that it is necessary to return to the state of affairs as of february 24, 2022, and regarding the occupied parts of donbas and crimea, he says that a referendum should be held there under the supervision of international observers, as far as sovietologists are concerned, because kissinger is one of those people who influenced the american soviet relations, and it is clear that this is a diplomat of a rather high type. how far do their opinions and what

they say correlate with what washington is doing , including washington? in the field, it is necessary to study the works of this really outstanding person, a historical figure, you can already say that he will remain in history, but this diplomacy is some kind of injera, this is now his new book about leadership, but here he is uh, here and all the rest, well, in my opinion , oxygen does not contribute constructively anymore, because it is a toolkit of the 60s and 70s, they want to apply it to a situation that he, uh, sat down with his wisdom, he does not understand it, well , not even theoretically you may know, you know why i , as an ambassador, approached him and talked with

his people who are close to him, they do not know such things about the ukrainian people . she did not pay attention to the specifics of the development of our state, because they always dealt with russia only from the 14th year, they started something there, research in ukraine, i will tell you from many mistakes and false or incorrect conclusions they made. i can already prove it that the people who worked with the cashier took his ideas and made a catastrophic mistake in the 14th year, so i do not believe any of the words of this groups well, what about him, that he is one of those who are in the columns of the newspapers, it is true, but believe me, he is not a key person who goes to the white house, everyone is doing it directly under the visor, as thousands have said, this is not true, valery, considering the situation that now there are calls from the ukrainian military to the military commanders that we

need long-range weapons in order to win this war, are these calls being heard in washington, london, berlin, well, at least in the three main capitals that decide and approve the decision to provide aid to the ukrainian e-e state and what is the west afraid of restraining the provision of long-range weapons they are for the first time days of the war or is it probably a week maybe they have quite seriously changed their approach to what is happening and when they have already developed their strategy they now they are not moving away from it let's say that this strategy is partly a strategy or a plan to counter russia in these conditions, it coincides with

our goals, our plan, but not in all their task is to weaken a critical russia in the coming years and here is the sanctions policy, here is the provision of weapons to ukraine in order for the potential reduce the military of russia, well, actually, russia is losing it catastrophically, you gave these numbers at the beginning of the transfer - this is if you count how many of ours already, well, they just overwhelmed 3,000 aircraft, helicopters and tanks, well, it's just a few european armies that's why i think that after this, russia will no longer advance anywhere, er, donatov's allies, and ukraine is generally closing the eastern flank of nato, therefore, in my opinion, their goals are more achievable now. we are not partners. we can’t do that, because without them we wouldn’t have been able to do even what we

did today, but there is one thing, but i said about it and i say it openly, and even this is already after i told you that it is closed. if you delay the delivery of these missiles distant drones distant ones, explaining it with their approach to managing escalation, well, that is, raising rates there by russia, we will give it means to protect the system against anti-aircraft defense, if russia does something else, we will give it, it will not work, this situation is not working now, and it is no longer working, the cities of the infrastructure are being shelled, the energy genocide of the ukrainian people, it is necessary to give already i believe that if they do not do this in the coming weeks, it will not be just a mistake, it will be a catastrophic mistake on their part, because, i'm sorry, the resource of ukraine is also limited. it is not inexhaustible, especially the human resource is not

that's why i think our voice regarding the provision of such weapons should now be increased many times if i had stayed in washington i would probably be there right now standing next to uh sullivan's office at jake and just wouldn't give him a pass i would force him to make this decision i just forced him to agree because the pentagon and a partial state agree to it, intelligence also, well, intelligence there are nuances, but the main political decision is the white house and the name of this person is jack sauna, so i hope that jake sullivan as a person is experienced and such an honors student at harvard or yale, that is, he will finally make some kind of decision in his life, right, this is all a difficult time, and andriy yarmak, who is his counterpart, partner in ukraine, i will push him to do this, because they often talk, they meet often, we see how they both show off. sorry

jake sullivan must remove the barrier in front of joseph biden in order to provide a missile attack of 300 km, although long-range drones, if this does not happen in the coming weeks, i will consider joseph biden, well, very dependent on the opinion of some limited circle of people. and i still i believe that the president of the usa is a very wise and determined person and he will do it regarding the determination of the ambassador. it is clear that now the west is entering the holidays in spite of everything. it is clear that most countries and most heads of states will obviously celebrate and engage in some domestic activities relatively speaking domestic matters in quotation marks, won't this period, well, new year's , christmas-new year's, starting from december 23-24 and ending there on the first of january, won't

it become a critical moment for us and for a window of opportunity will not be created for and when the western powers well, they may not react so quickly to those events that will take place on the russian-ukrainian front, the short answer is no, if some things are done right now, this week, a vote on a new military aid package is expected in congress, among this a large part of the package is also not directly for ukraine. well, if not , then there is the lisa mechanism, that is, the executive power is not so critical here, primarily the military and security structures the state department, even they will work the same as now intensively. i have seen it when such events happen, such structures work without data of any kind, they are not distracted , although somehow they manage to celebrate christmas and the new year, but uh, they take turns. that is, everything is

provided, i do not think that there is anything to be afraid of on this side in europe, if there are any decisions, there are decisions of the parliaments that we need, well , it would be like this for today, so that i would shout that literally in the next two weeks, so as not to give the possibility of executive structures, say in the decision to provide leopard 2 tanks to germany has already been made in the bundestag, that is, it is necessary to clarify whether another vote is needed, but then it must be held now, if not, then it will not become an obstacle, well, that is, let’s say so, if there is anything left, then it must be done in the coming days, then as soon as possible - there, two weeks will not change anything. next well, a few more statements at the very end of our program. the un secretary general stated that he does not see the prospect of holding peace talks between kyiv and moscow in the near future and said about what about the expansion of the un security council? he said that

there is a possibility, he thinks that there is a possibility of expanding the number of permanent members of the un security council, and this expansion is being seriously considered. for two years, 2023, you know. maybe i will be knocked out of the general circle there, but i will say so. this is an important thing for work and it must be done, but this is not our key issue , because we perfectly understand that russia can immediately renew this place here, the main thing so that vyta could not use it in those situations when she is the aggressor, that is the key and the expansion of the moon, the expansion of this issue is not resolved in any way at all, that is, the issue is in another e-e un bankruptcy council from the point of view of

the implementation of articles of the statute that relate to the security of the sanctions in the event that one country attacks another. they completely fail. well, they have nothing to answer for. if this country is a member of the soviet security council, if it is a nuclear state , then the problem here is what security system will be built on the basis of which it can be well there grain is being exported or there to help fight with kovit, and the weapons are completely powerless, thank you, mr. valery, the time of our program is coming to an end. thank you for an interesting conversation. it was a politician and diplomat, valery chaly. andrii illenko and roman kostenko will be on the air, we will talk about the situation on the southern and eastern fronts of ukraine.