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and putin, for some reason, always the kremlin's publicists, er, with peter the kremlin , they spread sand, they tell that something will happen, something like that will say nothing new, for at least the last er, it means 11 months ago, our invasion is nothing new we will not hear that putin will be on a-a this military colleague means that he is engaged in a manual mode of this so-called special operations and in fact a war a-a as for some loud declared a-a - an insight that will shock everyone. no, it will be ordinary porridge who usually talks about uh, the evil west and the unfortunate in russia, i.e. is it somehow possible to combine it with his visit to lukashenko, after all, he is going to lukashenko. and by the way, one more question. do you know when and on what date this collegium is planned because i tried to find it on the internet, and apart from
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reports that it is this week , there is no more information, so when will this collegium take place and could it be somehow related to putin's visit to lukashenka? well, when will it be no one is told it is possible it has already taken place and we will be shown a video of canned goods with putin's participation and as for lukashenko's business cards, we see that the kremlin throughout this time tried to involve lukashenko in an open war and tried to uh -uh use forces while we see that lukashenko has the strength to resist this and thank you in the previous interviewer, he explained in sufficient detail the motives of lukashenko's actions, and at the same time, the kremlin, of course, expects to introduce an offensive to accumulate forces, and for this, in russian, armed forces will be extremely necessary in order to bear the blows, sever is clear , mr. fighter, i have a question for you, see
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why lukashenko last week spoke very often and a lot about independence, about the fact that no one can question the existence of belarus in general, and that independence is the most important thing for him - friendship with in russia , independence is very important - this is the main thing, in one word, again, some hints hints at what could be well, geta is the usual rhetoric of lukashenka, eh, ion, with such important meetings, the traditional skazhem is publicly inflating his price, but goethe in fact, no one believes in gossip now, in fact , the belarusian community is not the west, er, this is what i say. actually, it is only for moscow, although i think that in moscow it is heterosexual. they also laugh when lukashenko talks about independence . i think, well, what is there it's interesting that you don't
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depend on it. when your entire country depends economically on russia. and our troops are actually stationed there at every training ground. i think that this statement is also for belarusian officials the traditional lukashenko will still try to make such statements, there will be such instructions to motivate me and er and to give them a pass allegedly. everything is fine with us, we have an independent ukraine, and here is putin, we will come and we will be in agreement, as if on equal terms, if these are two independent states, er, they are talking about niki with supporting money , it is clear that this is not the case at all. this is simply, well, in a certain sense , it is a way of inflating the price, but for moscow, this is a statement. they are already military
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are located in belarus, mykola is practically the same to you. the same question, look at the fathers, some such threatening hints from the side of lukashenka to the kremlin, they remind you, you know . the same threats were made, it seems, two or three years ago, when he could not agree with putin on a good price for gas and he also talked about the fact that independence is for us - this is the most important thing, we will not lie there under russia and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and now again some such threatening hints and how are they reacting to this in russia? in let's say that russia finances the existence of lukashenko's regime, and in this sense they understand that the power in belarus holds so much thanks to the money, that is, thanks to the military support that was provided by the russian authorities during the period of mass popular
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demonstrations in belarus, that's why they understand that of course lukashenko is a master of external political maneuver attack a-and the event of the last few years, did lukashenko completely close the exit to the other side to the west, so of course they understand that he is in the kremlin, he understands that lukashenko is in power, he is actually playing cat and mouse with him. your answer yes, of course, of course. why is it clear? mykola, i have one more question for you. let me say a few words about an article that appeared a few days ago in the columns of the american edition of the new york times. one of the main points there was about russia's apparent invasion of ukraine , which began on february 24 of this year, and there this
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main one of the main points was that putin himself makes decisions , no one in russia can convince him of anything, and in the end, no one really tried to convince whether the invasion would be mykola is in ukraine if he was loyal to russia as the president in ukraine, because in the same article he writes that great hopes were placed on volodymyr zelensky, but he did not show himself as they wanted to see him, conditionally speaking, if he showed himself to be the kind of person you would like to see him in the kremlin, would there have been an invasion, or was there not? because in the same article they said that putin well, he already has some well, i don't know, he is inclined to of history and here is this imperialism sitting in it please, well here it is difficult to understand that still the question of the existence of ukraine as a state for the kremlin with the vector of development in ukraine that it washed in 14
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is an obvious red linnyk - and the kremlin has repeatedly stated that regarding the nato bloc regarding the attitude of ukraine about the non-aligned status of ukraine and a-a if you hypothetically present the whole situation that here is the insistence of the beginning of the year in ukraine such a hyperloyal russia a-a the president well, first of all, they would be forced to recognize a-a krym a as russian from the side of ukraine the topic of donbass later and sooner or later, the invasion still happened in a different form a-a either russia twisted the president in his hands how did it happen before, including on the gas issue a-a or er-e it was indeed provoked by someone, they say killed and uh accordingly, the invasion would begin because in front of the line of the kremlin, ukraine is weak, ukraine was not able to defend itself, and ukraine should not exist separately , that is, either as part of this new empire
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, in which belarus was also planned to be included, or in no way. mykola and one more thing a question about this very article in the new york times. is it really true that no one in the kremlin can convince putin right now? is there not a single person there with whom putin can talk and still say well, you are right no, of course well, over the course of 20 years, there were 30 non -elections of putin's entourage, everyone who possessed at least some glimmer of consciousness was removed as far as possible from completely crazy people who profess the ideas of the requested russian fascists and putin is in this information bubble for quite a long time, all of this was destroyed by a chimney when he simply went into the bunker and almost no one has access to it at all. will speak against if they are all for the same thing, it is clear, mr. boris, now i have a question for you
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. recently, in recent weeks, i heard from the expert environment that lukashenko and you also said in the program today that lukashenko will be afraid to introduce troops into the territory of ukraine because it will to be afraid of this resistance and you have already mentioned the partisans who may be on the territory of belarus because belarus is a historically partisan region, but let's not talk about the partisans , let's talk about ordinary citizens belarusians in general they listen to lukashenka they may nod their heads, some even agree with him, some even him maybe even thank you, or among the population of the ordinary population of belarus is this resistance possible in the event that lukashenko thinks something like this and he leads troops to ukraine or is this resistance all this is the same only outside the borders of belarus. if you take it that way, no, it is clear that the
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opposition is there and it will be. preparation for the fate of the army is more from belarusians and they will uh with all their might just try to avoid calling on maxim i to mobilize simply unnecessary because ukrainians are our close friends, and secondly, the belarusian model is a gogole national idea for every 10 hours there, in fact, after the second world war, it was built on the jewels of the measure, they told me how much the important peaceful sky above the head and for this every belarusian understands that no matter what war and he does not want to get technical when
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sociology in a dictatorship certainly does not work and it is impossible to turn out about some detailed sociological figures, such inheritances are of course within in belarus , they are not absolutely prohibited. frankincense and uh, well, you can’t conduct official them before the investigation that they teach, they say about witches-moths, uh, there is an order there under this family of otsotkov, uh, how many people, well, they are just shaking russia and are ready themselves the same in that's what they share in this. well, there is such a miserable hardness that there are no ten percent of the public that fell under the influence of propaganda, and propaganda in belarus now works in a free and strict mode. because we have not only belarusians, about ten percent of the public, they undermine russia, so to speak, yes it is self-proclaimed super traction as belarus
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extended and it is clear that well half of the public circle half of the public circle about detail we can not say in the conditions of the dictatorship the suprastyu case in belarus is clear. that 's why putin's visit and lukashenka's position, where did she understand us? well, it's simple, and belarus will do everything, if they don't go, they'll break their own hands, feet , fingers. became silent, it is clear that mobilization was introduced in belarus too, knows how many belarusian men there are, they began to leave simply banal for mezhukov not to fight about covenants, not to participate in the draft, i think that such a picture will be applied, because every belarusian understands ukrainian army - it's not the belarusian army belarusian army well, how would the belarusian army from the afghan times in general not attract the field of these military
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operations seriously? no one wants to die, the potion of the forest, there are some dictators there, that's how many of themselves, well, five can be seven percentages, some of them would be so full of russian propaganda, boris, i still have a question for you. please tell me who, not what . again my private parking, but i mark that putin is afraid of her in detail, and you know that some of you are wrong in belarus . the minister of frozen affairs of belarus, vladimir, suddenly died. lukashenko, first of all, well, more of our journalistic countries showed that it was a natural death, but just a man, uh, lego had a heart attack, and he didn't have time to
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drag it out, or ah, well, look at how many staunch russian special services are inside of the belarusian special services, and the interference of the russians in different organizations there and in different organizations. i think that lukashenko and we all perfectly do not understand that, in principle, it is not difficult for putin, but you are conducting these other operations within belarus and the channel of which this operation concerns the most. well, let's say so. well, i think that lukashenko has completely understood the reasons, well, they are afraid of putin, they are just afraid of physical violence, because today the regime in belarus will change, introduce even more military forces into belarus and say that we are taking belarus under control. principle, well, no one is stopping the russians. yes , the only thing is that the imperial drive is the absence of the same troops that would now enter belarus. you took belarus under the control of all kinds of special services, and they are already present in the
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belarusian structures. he is afraid not just a-but he is in some kind of subordination. and what is he afraid of putin? of course, of course, i think that putin understands this very well, as i already said, the kremlin is playing cat and mouse with lukashenko and that's it i mean, i'm sure that the kremlin has a reserve plant in case lukashenko takes some critical position on his elimination. about uh, it means enjoying the status of the russians and already uh, carrying out the occupation policy directly in belarus, and i agree. with boris, er, the entire structure of state bodies in belarus is completely filtered by russian agents, of course it is special, it concerns the power block.
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vote we asked you a question , the question sounds like this: will lukashenko send his troops into ukraine, 202 people have already voted, there is still time to join, and the answers are yes, no, your option is yes. 44% think so, no, 54%. your option is two percent, uh, which option can be read already after the program is over. right here on youtube, and now 1204 people are watching us on youtube, watch, join. it's more on that channel, something specially created for our program. do you remember what else you can watch ? and on the general channel of the tv channel espresso sir mykola, i will continue with you from you. i will continue with you. there should have been such a question this year, which is always at the end of the year . vladimir putin's big annual press conference. a few days ago, information appeared that it was
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canceled. what do you think, why? well, because putin has nothing to say directly to the population, that is, he has already said that there is no mobilization . - what does it say that they left? kherson a-a says that they lost e-e thousand so the war of mobilized servicemen therefore e-e in this sense e-e there is no society to give e-e and unwanted questions unpleasant questions of course he hears he does not want that is why his activity she a-a let's say it is separated from the public. but they will say, uh, it 's enough at the meeting of the military colleagues. well, look at raising a huge country to a holy battle
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, well, of course, that's not necessary now for that. the next wave may need to
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participate, but at the moment it is not necessary, therefore, it is not necessary for him to use a deadly sword with a sword . by the way, you have already mentioned whether another offensive will be possible. will this other offensive be impossible? on the internet, in particular, the institute for the study of war says that this offensive in an interview is ignorant, general zaluzhny, our commander-in-chief, also said about it what the offensive might be. it might be in february or march, or in russia itself, they know something about it. i mean ordinary people who, well, one day putin may announce another wave of mobilization, well, let's say that people are not very interested in the war in russia, and it is happening somewhere on tv, only it does not directly affect the person in the family in this sense, people are quite abstracted from this topic, and it applies to this question. as for the
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possibility of a new offensive , it is quite obvious that, after the failures of the russian army, after the successful control of the entry the war of the armed forces of ukraine will not end. putin intends to continue this war further. he has already publicly spoken about putting the economy on the mobilization rails, that is, it seems that the price of cannon fodder is absolutely not worth it to the kremlin. i expect that after russia accumulates sufficient resources again, active hostilities will begin. well, of course, this is bad, but we have our weapons ready. when are we ready for this ? p- with mr. mykola, i talked about it, uh, again, coming back to today's visit of putin to lukashenko, lukashenko always went to putin, this time putin is going to see lukashenko, this may indicate something. after all, there is no need to
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look for something like that. well, there is nothing there no, this shows in detail, i think it’s just that. well, it shows the maximum seriousness of this visit, when earlier putin and lukashenko could contact each other by phone. lukashenko himself came to moscow. of course , this is how the relationship between those two looks. the president praised putin himself is going to minsk, this means that ion mmm i think so everywhere lukashenko is absolutely short, it is clear, mine is actually not subject to obfuscation, that is, this is a condition conditionally putin they are playing, yes , what is the need, i see it that way, which is not considered at all, let's keep quiet what will be a serious hamlet? of course, lukashenko may be beneficial for you, but for himself, but some small things, but if putin arrives, yes, lukashenko - this means that he visits this
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message personally, he wants to say it together, it can be, er, it makes a certain sense and another sign for lukashenka what are the looks, i can safely come to minsk and maybe they will look at you in your chair in the window of your office and it is not known who will be sitting in this office tomorrow, i think that this is a visit to me, this is how it looks from putin's side, it's interesting, mykola, look at russia again this is information and today, unfortunately, these iranian drones have already attacked kiev, so russia ordered again and iran handed over new drones to russia, it is not yet known whether iran will hand over to russia the ballistic missiles that russia is asking for, what can this indicate about the fact that russia cannot produce them itself because the sanctions are in effect, or is it possible that it is about something else? yes, of course, it is about the fact that in the
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production of drones, it is so different that modern technologies of microelectronics are chips that russia does not produce independently . and in this sense , russian corruption played a significant role under slavut, which destroyed many production chains , including vpc, and now the russian authorities are urgently trying to rebuild all these production processes, and the third of course, this means that in a global war, here is russia, iran is a state , here is a state in the state of sponsors of terrorism, i do not exclude that, in this sense, the west's response will be, too, not specific . but practically you yourself will ask the question to mr. boris, so the european union says the countries of the european union, some say
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that a tribunal against putin and all those henchmen who participate in this aggressive war in ukraine must be inevitable, much to the regret of the ministers of foreign affairs of the eu member states last week they did not make such a joint decision about this tribunal, they say that putin will have to be tried in gas in a court that already exists, a tribunal needs to be created, so mr. mykola, i have a question: is putin afraid of this tribunal or is he he listens to all these conversations in himself in the urals or in the altai. i don't know where he sits there, he listens, laughs and continues to live on, i think putin is afraid in general, in his essence, he is paranoid, and in principle, for the kremlin tyrants, this is a-ah, he will remember enough obvious history there at least that stalin or ivan the terrible and of course he is afraid of treason, of course he is afraid that his entourage can betray him, that they can betray him, hang everything
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on him, and this dictates a lot to you , and the nature of actions that will lead us, mr. boretz. and i suspect that when the countries of the european the union is talking about the fact that this person at this tribunal should also try people who, ah, carried out putin's orders, so it is obvious that it is also about alexander lukashenko, although they do not directly talk about him. what do you think, can lukashenko be afraid such a tribunal, or will he still slip away in his own style? i think that he will surely fall out of favor with this so-called piece of vector policy. after the first months of the war, putin and the world community had a certain pause, and in principle
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, sveta announced that i would silently agree with the desert in the back of military money, yes, this is an idea. in ukraine, this is unacceptable, but in european offices, sometimes you hear such statements as eh, and now we see that putin has made a decision for himself из киева-банк вы этой war and eh, in fact, constancy is the law , that's it, yes, and finally eh, defeat for which will mean the goethe tribunal, although eh, following the example of adolf hitler, we understand that jonah's personality may not survive until the tribunal, eh, the dining ego, but everyone who carries out red orders and does not detail must be a package of the tribunal. i'm not the only one saying this a man who met the war on february 24 in kiev and not only a colleague of those dozens of journalists killed in ukraine, killed by russians, if not by russian troops, but simply as a man who
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lives in europe, i understand the criminality of a russian person who is concerned with lukashenka, and he is definitely the same well, i would not want to get on this tribunal and for some reason in european offices they traditionally separate lukashenko from putin. the current belarusian dictator has much less silence for his own defense, for nick himself, and well, protection for the fact that they will secure a lot of money for themselves. i think that he is just under much more threats and putin has a bunker in the bunkers, the bunker will be opuse anyway, and these are the names of the lake reserves, i’m an equalization button, and i can get to the belarusian president, well, with good schedules, in principle, i think that they can
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play supersega. time just wants to be endless in our country, we rarely have such a detailed practical nikola, but lukashenka's position in this regard is much weaker than that of putin, who is sitting there in his bunkers, a fighter , you mentioned nuclear weapons, about the nuclear button, well, obviously, lukashenka, the nuclear button no , but he said that he would ask putin to give him missiles that can carry a nuclear warhead , do you still have information about whether there are such missiles already on the territory of belarus, i am sure that putin does not have any nuclear missiles in the circle, these are already lukashenko will not give it to putin. it is wonderful that he does not understand his pirvaha in front of lukashenka, and it is a little economic, because the belarusian economy is today russian, but also armed, and it is a military state, so there
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is absolutely no point in talking about a nuclear button for lukashenka. yes, i think that putin considered by lukashenko only excluded as a bridgehead for launching rockets for the concentration of his troops b as uh also a strategic enterprise where can i get food supplies stewed tuber i don't know for the provision of his troops and this as a bridgehead for of mobilization, there may be no hundreds of thousands , the album may be half a million, er, um, a resident who could join this war, not about any independent lake policy, and nothing about the independent launch of any rockets, er, the detailed idea of ​​the conversation is clear, as long as you are, sir boris said that our viewers had the opportunity to see the photos in these photos on the air, right now we are showing this hall where lukashenko will meet, and then as we can see, there should be a lot of people there, both on
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one side and on the other side, there are a lot of chairs well, let's see what they will say, mr. mykola. and the last question for you, please tell me . the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, oleksiy danilov , said that there are about 4-5 rockets left in russia for mass launches. it is obvious that they they will not be made, because if they release all the missiles, they will be left with nothing. it is obvious that there are still s300 missiles. but that is another story, and there are very few of such accurate long-range missiles. this may be true. there really are not many missiles in russia. well, let’s say it is all envy of the statute. specific to the types of missiles, there is a significant amount of a-a aviation e-e from the arrays of aviation missiles of the old model, they are certainly not highly accurate, but they can also cause damage. as for modern weapons, there is calibration in some and so on

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