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in ukrainian universities, the history of belarus is not studied at all. that is, at best, we know something about the battle of orsha in the 16th century, when the forces of the lithuanian principality were defeated, the muscovites were defeated. well, in principle, that’s all, that is, the military history of belarus. i think it is in principle, there are specialists from it in ukraine, well, there are practically none, by the way, i also want to say that i think few people know that after the battle near warsaw, when it was possible to save the bolsheviks from the soviet troops the forces of warsaw at that time. by the way, the poles and the international legion. i always remind you that at that time marshal de gaulle also participated in that battle. he came from france to fight there , a colonel, yes, and the sich riflemen, and there is even a square in warsaw named in honor of the ukrainian a colonel's officer, if i'm not mistaken. but also after that, minsk was liberated, minsk was liberated by the joint
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efforts of poland and ukraine from the bolshevik influence. well, then it again became part of the ussr, but it's just a fact that it was a tie, warsaw was liberated, minsk was liberated well, i was also there freely at that time, but i think that few people remember him either, in fact, history always needs to be taught , and the history of russia is not well-studied, it is such a real history. i think that in many ways, many people have confused when the russian aggression began, they did not understand what the russians are, what the russians are, what they want, as hrushevsky wrote, who are the ukrainians , what do they want, so who are the russians, what do they want ? are the facts what happened now vladimir putin flew to lukashenka yesterday for the first time in three years and since the beginning of the great aggression, and in february 22, lukashenko flew to russia seven times, and only once did putin fly to lukashenka in order to conduct certain certain uh, dialogues, we are now, well, there, i wanted for three summers, in fact, putin was on one of them, the
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others, i understand that they tried to confuse the hypothetical nato air defense, it is obvious that they confused something . lukashenka putin did not fly home but went to lukashenka's residence and everyone says that putin has obviously already overcome the tourist syndrome and may have stopped being afraid of the coronavirus. because somehow he drove carefully so easily, or maybe he was about to disinfect lukashenka's residence here, if it's hard to say well and now, first of all, we will start with the fact that i will ask mr. victor, in your opinion, this was lukashenka's inclination towards the war, the official participation of belarus in the war in the ground operation. was it to a greater extent the previous century from the creation of the soviet union and the solution to the question of whether belarus will be at least a little bit independent. will belarus still become part of the great new russia or some new union, please, this is not an investigation of the question, because the withdrawal will be able to become part of the
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new russia if there is not even the old eh now for putin, the question of the existence of not only his regime is being resolved. this is the geopolitical concept that he was building for himself in this and that nonsense that he pretended to be based on what was and if russia loses this war , it seems to me that it is not about what about the acquisition of belarusian by them and raise the issue up to the acquisition of tatars, well , the north caucasus, that's absolutely why again. if putin loses this war, it won't be the century of the soviet union, so i'm absolutely convinced that it was at least about participation in the belarusian war. i'm absolutely convinced that lukashenko is not at all interested in this, the only question is how deep he is now in putin's pocket, it
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seems to me that both now live by the principle of take today and i tomorrow lukashenko is trying to impregnate in seven forces to just write because he actually has big problems with the fact that i can clean him up and then he is just trying to survive because if he actually loses the war or if even he just can't win next year then he already has there will be personal problems directly in the russian federation. there we will beat them, well, far from that, well, actually, both of them have a task simply to influence each other, one to impregnate the other, to force the first. i am sure that even if belarus joins the war, it is not the president is not for anything good for russia and for russia for a long time, it is possible on the contrary, it is possible on the contrary, in a certain way, it will untie the hands of the ukrainian military in some aspects of which they have been tied all year.
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that absolutely everything is possible, absolutely the last neighbor and the last cucumbers of the bed just so that, uh, well, the punch is gone, the others have no options, he has nothing to hold back, because, like you, he has no spare airfields to which he could retreat, uh, she is gone already reserves that can be saved for the black day, because for him the black smoke has already arrived, and he is just getting them. now, before mr. yevgeni has a word, let us listen to what lukashenko himself said about the prospects for belarus with or without russia and about his opinion, the real state of affairs and the real state of threats, again, in his obviously distorted subjective world, please , we are in a state alone without russia to protect our independence and sovereignty, i am in a state and in a difficult moment, he refused me
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today twice putin came here he scares someone here he will look after ours the declared wife came to meet him as a relative as a close belarusian man mr. yevgeny i would like you to comment well lukashenko comment of course this is a specific job, but still well, i do and for some time ago i tried to write what lukashenko was holding in lukashenko's hands, that is, i have the responsibility now to convey what he did not read to the book, judging by his actions, to convey in a more modern form, if we are serious well, first of all, belarus is a single public the military-political ally of russia is no more, we can see in the sky and not only in the sky. unfortunately, iranian martyrs, but iran
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denies that it supplied them to russia and it denies that they have any joint projects there in matters of uranium enrichment , etc., true lukashenko, on the contrary, flaunts it. he even flaunted it yesterday. i thought you too . there is this video that they say we are so toxic, we are co-aggressors. by the way, this is a very revealing statement. in what sense did lukashenko make a statement in putin's style ? others lukashenko's similar statements, i think he does not feel very comfortable in the current situation. this is absolutely clearly visible, and he understands quite well, for the reasons that i spoke about, the idea of ​​a war between belarus and ukraine does not sell well in the media, so it is difficult to
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convince us of this. uh, we had such an opinion, such an illusion that putin would come and immediately convince everyone there that the belarusian military would march towards ukraine literally immediately. but as of today, there is no adequate number of belarusian ani of russian troops in order to create a serious threat to ukraine, it is now used in belarus as a place where they carry out reconnaissance, well, they carry out preparatory steps, they conduct reconnaissance, of course, but in ukrainian territory, but no, they are not ready for today's moment of invasion, and there is a very significant difference with the period until february 24, 22- until february 24, 22, the ukrainian
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leadership believed, based on the assurance of the belarusian , that there would be no aggression from the territory of belarus, now there is no such belief and there will be no more cannot, and that is why i think it is beneficial for the ukrainian political leadership to say to lukashenko, we will no longer play your games with you, we will not trade with you, this should be absolutely clear and the second thesis, which i insist on at the political level, if you like, ukraine should emphasize that without a democratic belarus does not have a safe europe, this also means the impossibility of talking with lukashenka, this also means that ukraine will draw its own conclusions, the situation that has happened today, putin is really interested in playing the game of restoring the soviet union 100
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years later, so to speak, because he called it the collapse of the greatest geopolitical disaster in the 20th century, and this topic allows it to be. which sounded like, well, first of all, lukashenko emphasized that now the belarusian troops are armed with the kander and s-400 anti-aircraft missile iskanders - these are the iskanders that, by the way , were on the territory of belarus before it's just that they now have belarusian crews and this is a threat because if they launch a missile , they are not russians, they will launch a missile over ukraine, then
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it will actually be hostilities. i think that in minsk they are also aware of this. of aircraft with a special combat component, a special combat component is a nuclear bomb, in other words, a missile with a nuclear warhead, this signal, in my opinion, is not to ukraine, this signal to poland, this signal to lithuania and latvia to three more countries with what are the borders of belarus? why? because lukashenko is very actively promoting the thesis that belarus is an outpost on the way to actually an outpost from nato. they also talk a lot about belarusian balconies . about the fact that the suvaltov triangle can
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, er, russian belarusian troops enter there, a lot of things are going on, that is, there is a large-scale military-political bluff that lukashenko uses in order not to get into a war with russia, a war between russia and ukraine, why do i think that lukashenko does not exclude for himself the possibility of russia's defeat, i emphasize the defeat of russia, in which he will still survive politically. you tell me, and how my belarusian colleagues told me about this convincingly enough, they will say you, you simply underestimate lukashenko, he will say that they forced my color, they took me hostage, they demanded from me that i do everything that i am ordered to do and then a series of statements will begin from the guards of the waitresses of switzerland to anyone
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, the head of the presidential administration, the prime minister of belarus, who will confirm his words, and i am not sure. i am not sure that the western world will want to punish lukashenko in this situation. it is more important in my opinion to punish putin lukashenko. in my opinion , it can be eliminated through economic sanctions. kalinovsky's thesis and gender will enter the territory of belarus. i have such questions when i hear such words, despite the fact that i respect people who, as citizens of belarus, defend ukraine with weapons in their hands, and i am grateful to them for this in our country. first of all, not only the kalinovsky division in the armed forces of ukraine or the defense forces of ukraine
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will be more precisely, there is also a terror battalion and there is another regiment . why are such words about the invasion, let's call it a spade, the white military units of the belarusian democratic forces do not leave the territory of poland and lithuania, there are also quite a lot of belarusian emigrants there, but in this case it would be a violation of international norms rights, and we have to decide for ourselves in our heads whether we live according to the norms of international law. are we, like russia , acting like russia? lukashenka and putin in a safe
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minsk, telegram channels write, freedom tv channel also vice prienko, a journalist, and tv channel 1+1 gives information that president volodymyr zelenskyi has arrived in bakhmut, where there are now heavier battles on the entire front line, actually it is not a hot spot. po- we will wait for even more confirmation, although the freedom tv channel is the one that is part of the only marathon. i understand that this information must be somehow confirmed in their opinion. well, if it is really true, we will wait for a photo, video confirmation, i don't know why you didn't hold on. in secret well, in any case, i am simply stating that what is written by people who can be referred to is wrong in one way or another, i think that this is a much stronger step on the part of president zelenskyi than sitting somewhere in the rear and squinting at something and deciding to attack somewhere uh, throw bombs at poland or do something else . at the same time, the president of another country, which restrains this aggression, uh, is young, in fact, it is not eh zhizn. none, against the background of these two politically, first of all, politically and morally outdated people. because you can know biden can be
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80 years young at heart, as they say, and the cities, and here he is, the president of this country, which restrains aggression, which fights, arrives at the most terrible point of this front of this war, uh, to a point where, in fact, there are no safe points where he can fly anywhere and it's like me again we will wait for the confirmation of the photo and video, but the only news and respectable telegram channels and journalists are military, well, at least andrii sabrienko knows him personally and trusts him as a military correspondent and is simply decent to a moral person, so you can refer to this a strong , very strong step, mr. viktorov, well, let's wait for confirmation again. maybe you have some channels there, because it seems to me that they don't have them, well, daughter, we'll wait, we won't. as they say, hurry up, like everyone else, give information because it appeared somewhere, but it's just that information exists because it's important to me that it's important to be there, there, there, where it's difficult, there's no need to support our soldiers first, and not sit in the rear and throw 200-300,000 by the way 700, well, officially, 770, or
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how many er-er left to the 100,000 russians killed in this war, whom putin threw here. i, viktor, what am i going to ask you about, er, more than the captain of the armed forces of ukraine, i have a question for you, ukraine is preparing, no one is revealing secrets but significantly everyone understands that the northern border he is preparing ready and continues to come to full readiness during all this all this aggression, well at least since the spring when they expelled the russians from there uh-uh in your opinion aggression from the side of russia and belarus a joint ground operation what can we expect if we say yes it is so if you even the representatives of the regiment use kalinovsky, they wrote yesterday that, unfortunately, this aggression is possible. i wanted to do exactly that from a military point of view. the questions are necessary for something, again, what will they use them for? where will
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they throw them, because it’s one thing to try in the dark in the direction of volyn, and another thing to focus on kyiv if they try again on kyiv, eh, how was it actually this year then it will be very funny, because in a much more successful situation for them, under clearly more favorable conditions, they suffered the most fatal defeat for their own existence by the russian federation in its lower form. well, this means the battle for kyiv battle for kharkiv battle for the entire north, in which they simply lost by one goal and had huge losses, now the situation is different, now ukrainian society, the ukrainian army is much more ready , on the contrary, the same trained officers, the same airborne units that were the most prepared precisely for this kind of action, ended they will probably have problems right now, but if they want, then again, they don't
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need to interfere with other issues. i just need to see the possibility, it seems to me, and not only the threat of the possibility of the threat, but so far, everything that russia is doing in this war is bringing russia closer to defeat . the name is absolutely idiotic, in fact, at the first stage, russia had less than an hour of introduction, then the next actions of the russians, er, also no less idiotic, led to great losses, now the russians are simply merging the peoples, the equipment was hundreds of thousands of attempts to take the dnipro streets to bakhmut forward that's what they actually are now they are doing everything in order to lose, what do they want to do to drag a certain number of belarusians into hell if they want to attack the same kyiv, for example, from the
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north, to repeat the situation with the sitting of the head of the peasantry, take an active copy well, why should another interfere with them the matter is if they try to push west to ukraine. there it may be a little different situation, i won't say. i won't say what's there. it will be terrible for us. there are also nuances there, but at least it will unfold in some way. to a different scenario and if fellow travelers simply repeat the scenario of february march of this year only on a different scale due to the significantly greater advantage of the ukrainians, both technically and most importantly, i would say that the qualifying belarusians here are absolutely troops. secondly , they are, again, in terms of the clothes of the combat pen from the russians, well, better in the better direction, they do not differ , as well as the comparison of technical equipment, therefore well, imagine that the russians simply pulled it, or there was still a
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brigade there, it was some of the same here in fact, it will be er belarusian flanger , we will now listen to two comments from the first, we will listen to how lukashenko somehow involuntarily er, perhaps not understanding this, himself told the truth about who he is and who vladimir putin is, give me some questions during this press- conference together, he actually said those things that very vividly demonstrate who these two people really are in world politics and in the world in general that they are actually the aggressor, let's listen to this strange comment of lukashenko, we are all aggressors, the most harmful toxic people of the planet we have there is only one sport, who is more ironed, it’s a pity that i am already starting to think what he is, and the solution is that together, that’s all
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. evgeny, did he decide to send a signal to the holy society? this is the joke in putin's stylistics that he actually talked about, uh, i think he was completely prepared, it's such a homemade preparation in order to say that there are no contradictions between them, so what's the point, in fact, there are contradictions, and lukashenko wants uh, well, to the boat sit down and don't get your feet wet that is, he wants to get oil, gas, etc. at domestic russian prices and release belarusian products to the russian market, but at the same time, remaining at the head of a sovereign state is actually quite the same. i would say an interesting political maneuver because lukashenko was the same at the end of the 90s of the 20th
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century the author of the idea of ​​a union state, his calculation was simple, that he was young and energetic, who within his own country brought everyone under himself under his name, destroyed a number of oppositionists there, and he thought that he would lead russia as well, and here instead of old yeltsin, a lieutenant colonel of the fsb who was no less young than lukashenko appeared, who spoiled uh, like a colorado potato beetle, everything was spoiled by lukashenko, that is, this dispute has been going on for more than 20 years. by the way, it is a very good illustration of the state of their relations, they can show people that they are friends, well, they are just friends until death, but in reality it is not like that, they dislike each other very much, and they do not trust each other, and the fact that putin really went to lukashenka's residence
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, well, it is clear there with security and everything, it is clear but lukashenko i think i also clearly understood that he was on the territory of belarus. well, even if you don't want to, they won't be able to put pressure on him like that, well, if it was on the territory of russia . i still want to catch up on the topic of the threat of an invasion from the territory of belarus, namely the ground work of the russian and belarusian armies. there is an opportunity to listen to the comment of general nayev, the commander of the joint forces of the armed forces of ukraine, about the level of threat from belarus, please. we are carefully following according to what is spilling over from the side of russia on the territory of belarus, and accordingly we make our analysis every day, the level of the military threat is gradually
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increasing, but we are also taking adequate measures, in addition to this, the general staff has foreseen a significant increase in groups in the event of their significant growth from the opposite side, well, actually, the leadership admits that we see everything and also, again, there was a statement from the representatives of the kalinovsky regiment, who said that, unfortunately, it is possible, therefore there is a threat, there is preparation, there is an understanding, i only have one thing that i think hm it is also worth working on, maybe this is also being worked on, this notification and effective informing of the population, here is mr. viktor, i will ask you. i think that not very soon, not in a year, not in two, not in 10, the wound from february, march 24, when people were shot in cars, people were killed in homes were raped, tortured, kidnapped , shot, just people whose bicycles are elpinska road, we remember it from buchi to irpen, it was simply filled up. unfortunately for my body, you didn't kill people who
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tried to benefit, well, that is, i don't know about it. forget, and again the question is that if the invasion happens again, of course we are ready, of course there will be a completely different encounter with the enemy, a completely different attack on the enemy, but in any case, no one excludes that somewhere some forces may enter one or another populated areas, here the question is viktor, in your opinion, is work being done with the population in order to effectively inform? and the fact that none of the residents of kyiv region , zhytomyr region, chernihiv region have any illusions about what russians are capable of, i think everyone here understands everything perfectly, you know the main thing again, don't miss this time x, please, viktor, comply, the only thing is that the question is, what changes will the
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physical regime be able to make someday? february of this year, it won't be such a surprise, or there won't be such an electron. and i honestly do n't think that they will even go so far as to make it a serious problem. i think that it will be rather more similar to their attempts to advance in donbas, but to hide less than their their attempts to parse in donbas at least in this regard, i am cautiously optimistic, you know what i am afraid of, that last time the russians succeeded, they succeeded poorly in terms of informational and psychological when they simply threw e in kyiv to the same odesa, viber chats, telegram channels with messages about the drg that moves tomos quick help, then she there are some cars of a certain color and they are ready and uh, as a result, it's just people who stood there at roadblocks and for the second time in my life
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i got a weapon, i just spilled on myself what was done. but this is what really worries me. everyone is here. i hope that the people have at least learned something and will not disperse these brand names. kukuma sent me a picture with a telegram, so what is there in an ambulance? help is moving in a russian derga around kiev. i won't see us for literally 5 minutes, i'll say now that they still confirm that president zelensky visited bakhmut, when he was there, i don't know , there will be photos and videos from there for me. how many people today really hold this area, which the russians are abandoning, after all, they can, and where they have quite good logistics and do not have problems with supplying the nose with ammunition, with food, with food, with material support, or with manpower, so of course there now it's not just the fact that president zelensky visited, he once again showed in reality
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who has something that distinguishes real men from those who are putin and lukashenko - they are abominations and what do they have, unfortunately, no no morals, no honor, no principle of manly human human dignity, in fact, that's why i put a big plus here and, as they say , kudos to president zelensky and his team for this work, and first of all, i want to ask something, by the way, information that also appeared today, the congress of the united states of america i want to allocate 44 billion 900 million. well, almost 45 billion of emergency aid in ukraine to allies over i think that most of it will be for ukraine, reuters writes about it, in fact, before that, the white house asked for 37 billion e in the congress, and now here the amount has grown to 45, i am very briefly asking mr. yevgeny. comment on this, is there really an understanding of what needs to be done? as churchill said, this pig should be finished. already next year,
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putin is meant, you know. willingness to pursue putin and all those involved in russia's war of aggression in ukraine due to the norms of international law, this is a statement that a year ago we simply could not have imagined. well, it simply could not be . another thing to pay attention to is that during the visit of volodymyr zelenskyi, in these 300 days , a complete one hundred percent change of roles took place. if putin was almost all-powerful before, now zelenskyi is showing what the leader of a struggling nation should be, who finds himself next to the military, who makes statements that are listened to in the world, this is an important fact important for our perception in the world, i emphasize, it is possible in different ways to be uh oppositional to

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