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by the way, how do you think this statement corresponds to the reality of such a relationship of vassalage and feudal lord and serf, yes , this feeling is there, there is this feeling, and there are even facts that may indicate that this feeling is well-founded, but on the other hand we see that belarus entered the war against ukraine with diesel fuel, although according to numerous reports lukashenka is under pressure in this regard, on the other hand , we see that putin is flying to the territory of belarus and the ice is flying for virtually nothing that well, in my opinion, it was very fresh that according to the results of this whole action, in which so many people were insolent, published eh in the public plane, in your opinion, on what principles is the relationship between lukashenko and
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putin based now? i don't understand. it's just that lukashenka has one red line beyond which he won't let putin, no biden, and he didn't let the belarusian people go there, that's his personal personal power over the country, that's his red line, and that's what can solve it this power is absolutely unacceptable to him, not from the belarusian people, as we saw in the 20th year, not from putin, the entry of belarus into the war will obviously give him power over his country. or maybe lukashenko will lose power over his country, he will lose the army, he will lose the loyalty of even that small part of belarusians who are still loyal to him, he will cause protests and people's anger again, and he can't go to that, that's what we see, and this corresponds to the facts that were voiced by the experts in your report, belarus is ready отдать своего оружие take away the tanks and already
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more from the totanks from further away and the process continues take away the ammunition he gets rid of weapons to show but what will i go with a stick with a stone i have given you everything please go fight if you like to fight so much you will die ah yes well leave me alone, that is, his ego, eh, these relations are seen as allies. yes, i give my territory, i give weapons , eh, yes, take everything that is there, for god’s sake, but leave me my power over this territory . the republic of belarus, but putin needs an army lukashenko, what kind of ultimatums could he give ? lukashenko. i think that this could be an economic ultimatum. lukashenko's ultimatum really does not have any means, and there are no alternative means, and where to get money, so it can certainly be an economic one, but again, lukashenko's
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argument is very simple. belarus is not big. that is, now, in the process of mobilization, they recruited five armies. what is there in belarus? yes, that is the number of people. not well-booted and probably not very willing to die belarusians want to die even less and even more property trained and even more opinion eh experienced and there is no motivation for a belarusian private to go die for putin no and you will not create it with anything artificially this motivation is possible if there are prisoners in russia although i don't know about the deadline, they will release it, and the storm will say that you will receive the white order if someone dies, who is belarusian, they will not receive the white order, they will not receive anything at all, and they do not need to be released from the terms, therefore, motivate the chances take away
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the belarusian army, there are no weapons. the red line was not crossed, that is, for some it is a military force in some countries when it comes to its interests, for some it is more civilized by modern actions using methods such as economic influence , cooperation, and so on. what resources are there in lukashenka to defend his position, because it seems that he has one resource, flattery, you saw, yes, putin is infinite, how big is putin, what does he mean to him, his brother, a matchmaker, and so on, how they are together two fellow aggressors, the most taxicabs? of course, putin is the best, that is, he he always
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traded with yeltsin and with putin, and he negotiated by selling friendship in exchange for hard money, but he tried to do it now. it seems to me putin already has it now not the situation when he needs and just words he will demand . of the joint expeditionary force that is being trained, it will not be the entire belarusian army, it can be one or two small units, but you say that the powerful lever with which putin can press lukashenka is money, financial support, on which belarus has long depended, but what if lukashenko will refuse where he can take this money or can he take it. for example, in china
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, because we know that the economic cooperation of the two countries is strengthening. indeed, while lukashenko is not under sanctions against such global ones as russia, he is trying to flirt with china to the maximum, but the problem is why is it that the entire export of belarusian goods goes through the territory of russia, that is, putin can shut down all this economic economic interaction in one day , in one second, to block the flow of belarusian goods to the chinese market and in the opposite direction, too. and all the others, you know, from all the other borders, we have a problem, so here it also depends on putin and depends on the position of many western countries . on the first day of the participation of the belarusian army in an aggressive war,
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china will immediately reduce all its the prospect of an invasion from the territory of belarus again in the northern direction on the territory of ukraine, that is, did this meeting distance this prospect or did it make it closer, in your opinion , no, it is necessary to try again. he can't go to the press conference because there will be questions and what did you do at all? and why did one hundred thousand people die and why does kherson - ukrainian and kharkiv-ukrainian and the fallout from kiev stand from deva, now he can't answer these questions, he can't brag about anything, that's why he canceled the message to the parliament and
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the press conference, and the only thing he has is a chance to start some new mess . lukashenko understands its senselessness. 22 years ago, when readiness was on a completely different level and there were no western weapons , now there are even fewer chances of surprise effects . zaluzhnyi has already clearly indicated that they know all the plans, and that's why if putin is this, but this is schizophrenia, yes, if putin is already he just made such a decision in his head, no meetings will affect him, that’s for sure. and if he is like that, he made this decision, if he wants to put pressure on lukashenko and take his army away for an offensive for ukraine, will putin be ready to kill lukashenko? chairman of the national security and defense council oleksiy danilov he thinks that he will not go for it yet, but your opinion is not. i also think that he will not go
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because any politicians who will come after lukashenko will be much more oppositional. yes, putin knows the mood of belarusians very well, he knows very well who he really won the elections of the 20th year, he, uh, his intelligence and his sociologists know, uh, the level of support for lukashenko, and vice versa, the desire of belarusians, uh, to change the country, so i think that lukashenko is his last franz, in general, that's why they are like a friend the friend praises like a godfather to a godfather yes all this is seen by andriy, we thank you for joining andriy kureychyk, a member of the coordination council of the belarusian opposition, was in direct contact with us, they talked about the threat from the territory of belarus and the possible possibility of joining the belarusian army in the war against of ukraine i remind you that the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, zaluzhnyi, and the minister of defense, reznikova, predict that russia will very
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likely dare to invade ukraine again from the north, but let's hope that this will not happen. and victims in the course of this repulse, of course, we will not be able to penetrate new ones, but our task is defense and to it very carefully and right away they are already densely preparing, i know from my sources, i personally communicated with the military should not worry too much about this, we will definitely repulse this attack, we are watching another interesting evolution, not only of how lukashenko hesitates about the belarusian army entering the war, but also of the evolution of views of a much more important persons in the world is a person pope of rome, he has significantly changed his rhetoric recently, let me remind you that earlier he stated that the brutality of russian military personnel is not characteristic of the russian people, and now mentioning the suffering of the ukrainian people, the pontiff even cried and emphasized that he will continue to support ukraine, and as a gift for christmas, i would like to
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quote a little peace. the pope also called the war against russia against ukraine the world war. i do not see an end in the short term , because this is a world war, we will not forget about it, many hands are involved the cauldron of war is global, i think that war begins when the empire begins to weaken and when there are weapons that need to be used, tested and sold, a lot is at stake pope francis and about christmas for hundreds kilometers from home, fairs, national dishes and souvenirs for the armed forces of ukraine, while ukraine is fighting for victory very close to europe during the christmas holidays, immigrants who were forced to leave their homes due to the war will celebrate these days in different countries . oleksandr, who
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left for germany with her daughter at the beginning of the war, says she always dreamed of visiting the winter holidays in europe, but only now has she realized how much she misses christmas in her homeland kyiv despite everything he says, he will celebrate the winter holidays with friends in his free time, he visits winter fairs and movies with his children, how they decorated their first christmas tree hundreds of kilometers from home. it must be your difficult year for everyone and for those who are in ukraine and now abroad, but support and the mood has a combative mood, it is important here abroad, i don’t know if anyone. we ukrainians are united and probably the most important thing is to unite and support
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because we know what we are doing all this for, whether flashlights or decorations and a pile of snow among mountain landscapes so reminiscent of the winter carpathians, her greetings from norway are conveyed by yulia from kyiv very often we only see inscriptions of all kinds of santa clauses, all kinds of nisses, they are also called here a lot of ukrainian symbols and there are probably some ukrainian refugees living here, so the locals are preparing for christmas in the norwegian city of bergen where yulia from kyiv went, also at the beginning of the war she was restless in ukraine she does not sit still and in norway she walks around the city and attends festive concerts instead of snow tangerines and lemons on the trees her first daria from kyiv
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, who went to cyprus with her family during the war, also celebrates christmas abroad. she says that nowadays there are many immigrants on the island, like ukrainians, they are preparing for christmas. usually they just visit these wonderful christmas locations , the fairs somehow unite in themed parties to remind themselves of their homeland communicating with each other and usually prepare a dish of ukrainian cuisine, we will prepare the same and unfortunately we will light the christmas tree this year because we really love our christmas tree, which is located here in kyiv we will simply remember our motherland and taste our ukrainian affairs for the youngest ukrainians for the winter holidays, our compatriots in cyprus arrange all kinds of events, children not only
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rejoice at st. nicholas and christmas, but also remember what is happening at home thousands of kilometers away and how they can support the zsu here we are in center a. there are attacks. cars from ukraine are selling theirs. you did it yourself. well done guys. look at the cute toys and then, i understand, you will help the armed forces. they will return home to celebrate the main holiday of our victory in to the nearest relatives viktoriya dmytrenko we are ukraine marathon the only news and it has not been the first year in ukraine that there is a debate about when to celebrate
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christmas according to which calendar december 25 or er january 7 and here, pavel, the large-scale russian invasion significantly contributed to the fact that schalke of libra in this matter leaned a little in a different direction than it was usual before almost half of ukrainians now support the idea of ​​moving christmas to december 25, and a third of the respondents are against the move this is evidenced by the results of a poll conducted by a sociological group. at the same time , a quarter of those who celebrate christmas twice made up a quarter of those surveyed, and only 8% of ukrainian citizens ignore the celebration of this holiday. churches of ukraine allowed in 2022 to celebrate the divine service on december 25 and january 7, and each religious community must decide for itself when to do it and what to actually do as
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to celebrate then and then, what have you decided for yourself? and does that mean that if you celebrate on the 25th, you will not celebrate on the seventh? well, you know that jesus cannot be born twice, he is born once, and it is no wonder that people choose the calendars that they closer and live according to those calendars, but with, you know, with the church secular calendar, there were some misunderstandings, since our secular life actually takes place according to the gregorian calendar, that is, it is the so-called catholic calendar, and the church remained in the realm of the actual julian, that is, the orthodox calendar and it is necessary to finally bring it into line because it is strange that our life is actually divided into two parts at that time, well, for myself, i still decided because ukraine chose
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european integration orientations and long ago decided that it is necessary to celebrate december 25, we are uniting the legal part of which is outside of ukraine and uh, i accept congratulations that sound to me from europe and from america exactly on december 25th. well, on the seventh day, i would say, yes, there are many different events of such traditional ones related to our childhood uh, but no so you know everything was unambiguous in the history of our state, i.e. there was a time when even the zionist celebrated christmas on the 25th. and we understand that the appointment of christmas on the seventh of january is a peculiar manifestation of mrs.
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lyudmila . i'm already on the air ludmila filypovych p ludmila please continue, that's why each person decides for himself although i'm with- i understand that if a person is a churchgoer, then she won't know how to celebrate at home. she will definitely do it together with her community, and here the opinions are divided, that is, the religious community gathers and decides when we celebrate christmas, there are two different options here, as they say, but more and more, er, those who make decisions about them vote simply, simply vote that christmas will be celebrated on the 25th. me. here is where i live now, and in fact there are two communities, the
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pentecostal and the orthodox, which belongs to the uoc, and the pentecostal community decided to celebrate christmas from the 24th to the 25th. there will be a service in the house of prayer. well, the orthodox will remain within the old traditions. that is, it will be the sixth on january 7. i don't think that there will be any kind of confrontation or struggle in the village with the utmost respect for the orthodox to the pentecostals and the pentecostals to the orthodox, but you see that ukraine is gradually still taking steps towards the recognition of december 25th as the day when we celebrate christmas, and you have already provided data that the number of those who support the need to switch to the new julian or gregorian calendar, which moves christmas 7 to december 25th, is increasing, just in time
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of this research, i just read it, the thesis was written by the people who were involved in this research, and they indicated that in the question of celebrating the 25th or the seventh in terms of age, the most contradictions are observed in the older and middle age groups. to overcome and whether it is necessary to overcome these differences, well, this can be explained, because you know, these people already have a tradition, they have been celebrating christmas on the seventh for a thousand years, as they say, and now to change it. it is very difficult exclusively from a worldview, although we must understand that setting these dates is not possible , setting this is not what god said, so celebrate my birth on the 25th or the seventh, it is exclusively a product of the creativity of human hands, and we must understand that if we want unity, then let's unite around such well, i consider it insignificant for the
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religious life of the community and a person, the date like christmas is insignificant. in what sense is this a church event, it is very important, but dad notes that it is still secondary, let 's remember that this actually begins a new cycle of our life and a new cycle of the life of everything of the world, and if the world is moving, as they say, and it is moving at such a speed, it is necessary to adapt to this world, because we have an old - we have very few, in 17th year, we have two official weekends and 25 december and january 7. maybe i am a son then on the seventh of january, for example, remove this official day off. what do you think? well, you see that even the head of the church is not in a hurry to make a clear decision, that is, a person can choose whether it is the 25th or the seventh, and even
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the greek catholics which are the most we are close to moving the christmas holiday to the 25th of u i have data - such data that 86% of greek catholics are not against christmas on the 25th, and half also celebrate it on december 25, after all, the leadership of the churches does not take responsibility, you know, and does not show such determination, despite the fact that, as in his time, the pope gregory the 13th, we will celebrate according to this calendar, human consciousness is something that is subject to the most complex perturbations and takes time. for certain transformations , we need to work, we need to actualize these issues, and i think that when these newest generations grow up, they are ready to change the date of the celebration of christmas, it will become
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an all-ukrainian phenomenon, we will not comment on whether it is necessary or not to move the celebration from december 7th to december 25th, mrs. ludmila, if this calendar reform does take place and we will celebrate christmas on all december 25th, then what other holidays will have to be moved in accordance with the new calendar. this is a very difficult question because right away you understand that the calendar reform is not only subtracting subtracting or adding these 13 days that are the difference between the seventh of january and the 25th in december, there are stable, so-called fixed holidays, and there are moving holidays that depend not only on the solar but also on the lunar calendar, that is, you have to sit down and seriously work on
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it . it's time for the new julian calendar, and it almost coincides with the gregorian calendar, and each church has its own holidays, for example, there are holidays dedicated to saints of one or another church, there are temple holidays, this is all subject to revision, so special calendar commissions should be created here, which they will seriously work on this regarding the pope , whom we also mentioned, we are watching the evolution of his views on the war in ukraine and the actions he takes to demonstrate his attitude to this war how would you describe this evolution and what do you think we should expect from the pope roman vatican in general, in the future well, definitely not revolutionary changes, and you know, we often
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place such expectations on religious or political leaders, which they can not fulfill by their very nature , let's not forget, first of all, the pope a christian, and in the christian paradigm the main idea is the idea of ​​peacemaking, i.e. christianity is a religion that calls non-believers not to conflicts, not confrontation or opposition, namely, it is focused on the reconciliation of two warring or conflicting parties, so it is clear that in his mind, in his care, this is the idea of ​​reconciling now there are two warring parties - this is, you know, the number one topic. he did not give up the idea of ​​a visit to moscow, where he hopes that he can convince putin and that means patriarch kirill to end the war with
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ukraine to return to the original state in which our countries were before 2014, well, you know a little bit about it. well, to smell such romanticism and idealism, but again, i want to confirm that he cannot at his 86 years old, and he celebrated this birthday very recently, this is to change his consciousness so much in order to become a ukrainian patriot and a ukrainian nationalist, he will still strive to balance the attitude of the vatican to russian policy towards russia within the framework of that eastern policy, that is, the concept that at one time the capital worked out as an apostle to the countries of the socialist camp, and the main idea that died was to speak, not to annoy, not to provoke aggression, i.e. to stroke, as they say by the wool
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, it is clear that they cannot help but react to what they have already learned, and information is still coming in about these the crimes and dishonesty that he commits on our territory, he emphasizes that he creates russian troops on our territory. it is clear that the pope feels the influence of very different parties and different forces, but we see that the ukrainians still forced him to abandon the idea of ​​a common the procession of the cross on easter, when he placed a russian woman and a ukrainian woman next to christ. well, you know , the procedures have changed a little, and you yourself say that the rhetoric has changed in relation to those events , that is, it all started with the moscow cordons, you know that this is a fratricidal war, that this is a civil conflict, well, now already the pope says that this global
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confrontation is a global war between , in fact, two civilizations, the western european democratic civilization, and often, probably even the liberal-democratic one, and the civilization provided by it, which he presents in particular the russian empire is now the refiv empire, so we will not see any changes in russia. the pope cannot remain, you know . well, not unchanged, because he is a living person and it is clear that the circumstances in which he lives also contextualize his assessment of those events. uh, well, in which he lives, so we will uh, find such humane russians as he thought were brought up
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on the idea of ​​dostoevsky well, we will count on even more support from him . thank you lyudmila filippovich, a religion connoisseur it was with us on a direct video link friends, our marathon continues stay with us we'll be back in a few minutes you're the one who writes our new story every day and we thank you thank you that i can drink coffee and i really want to share it with you so that in life they can breathe the same air with you and speak the same language thank you for the opportunity to be proud of you every day i am something that can work and 11 for you, thank you for warm home

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