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svoboda on facebook and youtube today we are following the visit of volodymyr zelenskyi to the united states of america, what he went there with and, most importantly, what he will return with, we will talk about it in the next hour , it became known about the trip of the ukrainian president to the united states unexpectedly tonight, zelenskyi flew to washington via poland, at least now the ukrainian president was seen at the railway station in the city of przemyśl in the south of poland, this footage was published by the polish television channel and in poland, this footage was published by the polish television channel tvn, as reported by journalists, zelenskyy boarded the plane at the airport of the polish city of rzeszów, the white house announced that zelensky will spend a partial day in the united states, after which he will return to ukraine immediately in the evening, american time.

he has to meet with joe biden in the white house, after that there will be a meeting with the us national security team and representatives of the us government, then a planned press conference and communication with journalists, after which volodymyr zelensky will make a special address to the us congress, we will follow the development of events promptly i would also like to inform you that this is the first foreign visit of president zelensky after the russian full-scale invasion , before this the leaders of the countries visited him in i will remind you of kyiv for the sake of context, because it is also very important. the last time volodymyr zelenskyi left the country was on february 19. it was 5 days before the russian repeat. then he went to the munich security conference, as they later admitted at the bank. then, for the first time, western partners suggested that zelenskyi not return to of ukraine and to form a government in exile, i.e. a government in exile, because at that time few people believed in the ability of ukraine to hold out in a war with russia. and the war was already

obvious and inevitable at that time, us president joe biden said that he should discuss many issues with volodymyr zelenskyi, that he would be very happy to see zelenskyi in the united states, not exactly what is happening in washington right now, how are they preparing to receive zelenskyi, what is the mood there regarding his visit, i will ask my colleague maria ulyanovska, a journalist of the voice america joins our airwaves, a dream my congratulations please tell me how washington is currently preparing to meet zelensky what the american press is writing about it welcome to washington in fact, there were only conversations about the visit of volodymyr zelenskyi and the day before last night in washington. it was already a night in kyiv. all the journalists of all e-e editions and tv channels were listening because it was necessary to confirm or deny whether he would really come, and in the evening such meetings took place with by the journalists of the high gardener from the white house who confirmed this meeting and from uh since then we are all waiting for mr.

volodymyr zelensky to come and start his short uh fruitful visit to the usa in particular the very soon planned meeting of the two of presidents joe biden and volodymyr zelenskyi in kyiv, it will be 21:00 and zelenskyi will have a very tight schedule during this trip. after that, he will meet with representatives of the national security council and us government officials. further, at 23:30, a small press conference is scheduled. and after already that evening and in kyiv it will already be a deep night on the 30th, mr. zelensky will address the us congress with a speech, and in particular, yesterday the speaker of the house of representatives of the us , nancy palosia, sent letters to the congressman with a request to be personally present at to today's meeting in order to consider the issue of democracy, a dream thank you

, a very dreamy voice from america spoke about what is happening now in the united states of america where they are expected from minute to minute, i understand volodymyr zelenskyi thank you very much volodymyr zelenskyi's visit to the usa and the consequences of this visit for ukraine we will discuss further, as zelensky himself said to the united states, he went to work to strengthen the stability of ukraine's defense capabilities, by the way, what expectations do you personally have from this meeting write in the comments, or listen to what the residents of kyiv answered when journalists asked about their expectations. i think that volodymyr zelensky went to ask for additional weapons for ukraine to protect against an attack by russia, then he went in the interests of the country, so how is this justified e- with a trip. thank you. what do you expect

from this visit? well, what do you expect? well, what kind of additional aid for ukraine? the visit to bakhmut is aimed at receiving probably the most military aid. since the situation there is difficult and there are expectations, i think accordingly. like all ukrainians, what is this support nadi? where is the support of america in the near future, what is it, what will it be, i think it will be a great president for our country, i expect at least for this and which one exactly which president in what? well, for example, air defense equipment would not be a problem, financial support is also possible

, generators and everything else. well, regarding your expectations from this visit, describe in the comments if you have not done it yet, and i just i would like to add that the visit of the ukrainian president to washington was a shock for both high-ranking officials and lawmakers who were not informed about the plans of the biden administration, at least the american publication politikus writes about it, the parties have been discussing the details of a possible visit on the sidelines for several weeks, and on december 11, during a telephone conversation with joe biden for there defense, they gave him the flag of ukraine and asked him to hand over to him whether there are decisions that are very important for ukraine, but in fact , it is not excluded that it is this flag that zelensky will hand over to joseph biden let's see. let me remind you that the last time zelensky and biden met was at the beginning of september in 2021 , then who remembers the meeting was postponed several times and in the end it took place at a bad time, firstly, it coincided with

the withdrawal of american troops from afghanistan well , secondly, it was the beginning of september a dead season in the political life of the usa and while some political experts assumed that the meeting was postponed on purpose and that zelensky was not allowed to meet with the congressmen in a word from that meeting, big breakthroughs were not expected and did not happen well, but it was another time, but what kind of breakthroughs can we expect, now we will talk further on svoboda life live from washington new york university professor igor eisenberg good evening good evening good evening to all viewers and listeners of svoboda what are your hopes for the current meeting between biden and zelenskyi i think that this it is very important that many have already invited volodymyr zelenskyi that i had to organize this visit because it is very important for ukraine to support ukraine and besides that of course it is important when leaders have such an opportunity to talk er alone not with the help

of secure communication systems er looking at each other in verse because well also of course russians russian intelligence is also correct to find out what they are talking about let's say even with a phone protected by a lock er- in this regard, i hope that they do not succeed. well, the conversation is important, and the symbolism of this visit is possible, because it shows the absolute support of the united states of ukraine, which the united states has supported and will support ukraine until its victory. more and victory is a sign to the whole world, a sign of support for ukraine, a sign of being an ally of the united states, fans of the big seven, or whether it is necessary to continue supporting ukraine by all possible means, these are signs to the terrorist country that the united states will absolutely not back down from supporting ukraine until its

victory, after its victories well here is the american publication polity, who is speaking, writes about the fact that volodymyr zelenskyi’s visit was a big shock for high-ranking officials and they were not informed about biden’s plans. i don’t know, it’s possible it is related to security, they had a different idea of ​​how and where the president of a warring country should travel, and maybe there are other reasons for this, what do you think? i think it is only related to security, because of course it was necessary to keep everything a secret until, for sure, volodymyr zelensky was not already in the air on the way to the united states. well, because you understand that zelensky is the head of warring states and publishes that there is a very, very strong enemy that we have the ability to attack our targets, including and over the ocean is therefore very correct what is this

was kept a secret well, probably a limited number of people who should have known about it knew about it because they visited today it is reported in the american media that the united states took a direct, very active part in ensuring the security of volodymyr zelenskyi on his way to the united states himself to ensure security on the way back home to ukraine paysen berekh well, look at volodymyr zelensky when he commented on his visit. he said that he was going to the united states to strengthen the stability of defense capabilities, first of all it comes to mind and the media is already writing about it that volodymyr zelensky will ask for weapons, but what else, let's give it by points, can become a subject. as you said, the subject of a face-to-face conversation between the two presidents, in addition to weapons, armed forces will stand first and foremost, in addition

, strategy can be discussed of further further struggle with the strategy of how exactly to bring russia to admit its defeat what is needed for this except weapons weapons of course what is needed for this is primarily because russia will lose this war when it loses completely on the battlefield except moreover, i think that they can also discuss further steps to ensure the security of ukraine and security in europe, security in the world, how will it happen? different things can be discussed. from ukraine , but if ukraine succeeds in liberating more of its territories, what security guarantees can communications in ukraine provide until ukraine fully joins nato, what are

the prospects for joining nato, and you see finland sweden allegedly joined nato hungary turkey still blocks the ratification of finland's accession sweden to the direction of hungary allegedly ratifies in february the e-e change according to the nato charter and turkey is unknown when. that is, ukraine needs security measures. i think that the united states and great britain are the same were given to sweden for a period for this transition period and so on, that is, there are many things that they can discuss, when you know for sure that this conversation is absolutely confidential, i will only add here that the spokesman of the white house on of national security, john kirby, in an interview with cnn on cnn today, said that joe biden invited volodymyr zelenskyi to washington because, as he

said , the war in ukraine has entered a new phase. it has already arrived, but there are reasons to meet and discuss some further cooperation, we will keep an eye on it, you said the following thesis that this meeting should also give some certain signs or messages, certain veiled ones. i understand, yes, but you know what i wanted to clarify here are the diplomats with whom i already spoke today, they assume that zelensky will ask for russia to be recognized as a state sponsor of terrorism today, but at the same time, i recently read the publication hill writes that the leadership of the us congress is working the draft law that will condemn will condemn russia as an aggressor state, but there is no mention of recognizing russia as a sponsor of terrorism. hmm, what is this?

the united states is one of the many countries in the world that has a law that means what a state sponsor of terrorism is a method of international terrorism. according to this law, four such countries are recognized as sponsors of terrorism and sanctions are applied to them. currently, these are iran , north korea, and iron clubs. i have something of my own that i am not mistaken, i.e. these four countries, iran, north korea, and cuba are absolutely correct. the fact is that there is such a delicate thing that russia keeps american citizens in handcuffs, that is, citizenship in different countries at the same time they exchanged for a russian criminal who was serving time in american prisons, there is paul deon, another accomplice who has been in a russian camp for four years, and by the way, another citizen of the united states who

was in russia. the united states is conducting very difficult negotiations with russia is about the release of its citizens, and that is why i think that the united states is very careful, so when it is or will they take certain symbolic steps, for example, to recognize a state as a sponsor of terrorism, the state must take department according to this law, i think that the united states is afraid that if they get rich, ukraine works as a sponsor of terrorism in russia, any negotiations regarding the release of american citizens will simply fail. which are provided by law for countries sponsoring terrorism, that is, such recognition would be an extremely important political symbol if it happened, but it would not actually add anything to the sanctions that have already been applied to russia because absolutely all the sanctions have been issued. that is, it is export control, the

export of anything to russia is prohibited, it can be used in the military industry . it is forbidden to do together with russia, this is all already introduced, the only thing that can be added , that is, if the united states recognizes russia as a sponsor of terrorism and the citizens of ukraine who suffered from russian aggression will be able to apply to american courts with lawsuits against russia. this law provides for this, since it is a law on recognition of countries as a sponsor of international terrorism, it defines the jurisdiction of the united states over cases arising from crimes committed for the sponsorship of such a country as a sponsor of terrorism, and this is it would allow ukrainian citizens to apply to american courts, there is one more thing that is

stipulated there, let's say if some country violates american sanctions against a country that sponsors terrorism and the united states sanctions against the relevant companies of this country, well, this may apply to, say , european companies that have everything to do with russia, but in fact, all the sanctions that the usa itself imposes against the sponsor countries are regulated by their introduction, well, you correctly pointed out that, apparently, for ukraine, it would be a powerful political signal, because despite what you just said, ukrainian high-ranking officials and the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs still insist that the united states recognize russia as a state a sponsor of terrorism and not just adopted some resolution declaring that russia is an aggressor and so on for ukraine. as i understand it, this issue remains relevant despite everything you know. i remembered what actually happened in september 2021. when volodymyr zelenskyi

first met with joseph biden. we also discussed with you. i even remember that you criticized the ukrainian president somewhat. i even remember that you criticized him for not speaking to biden in english and for the fact that the time there was not very favorable. unsuccessfully. it seems to me that this is what you said then. if you compare that visit and this one, it is clear that it is about a different war. but nevertheless, you noticed that you noted some peculiarities . see, at that time i criticized zelensky somewhere, not cheaply in english , because he really spoke to the press -conferences and gave interviews, i will explain why i then explained why because at that time it was very important to convey to american viewers and american voters what is being done in ukraine and what ukraine wants from the united states of america from its relations in the united states and it is natural

that it is better to do directly then ukraine was not in the center of attention absolutely because, well, look at the people of the united states. usually they are interested in their current life in their present and then ukraine was absolutely not in the center of attention. although it was centered and we assure those who were following that because there was a concentration of russian troops on the border, it was clear that russia was preparing an attack , ready full-scale equipment, but at that time, mainly those who were interested somewhere in politics, who was interested in a political person in europe, the situation is completely different now, because volodymyr zelenskyi is now a very popular person in the united states, uh, all commentators recognize him as the leader of crooked countries, which the united states helps countries whose victories over russia are very important for

american national security, volodymyr zelensky is very often called by american christmas analysts the churchillland of today or are they further if you decided when it became known for sure that volodymyr zelensky today will be in the united states will speak in the congress that this will be the most important speech of a foreign leader in the convention. after the speech in the institute on december 26, 1941, well, that is, the situation has changed because ukraine is now already in the center of attention since the end of august, the beginning of september of the 21st year -e united states e-e see if we watch the news , well, on any tv channel, then there, well, from time to time, from a third to half of the time, maybe i will share news from ukraine about ukraine. probably before the war, but sometimes limption in sometimes more well, but it is constantly present, that's why

ukraine is absolutely in the center of attention, the situation is different, and that's why if tonight volodymyr zelensky's speech at the congress will be broadcast live in the hotel on the main tv channels, it was absolutely not surprising , because it will certainly interest people , and i'll say it frankly now it doesn't matter what he could address to the americans because the americans will understand him through a translator because the americans' perception of zelensky and ukraine is very different now from what happened at the end of august at the beginning of september of the 21st year, top ukrainian officials are on visas, they are urging you not to get tired of the war. what can you say ? from ukraine, well, it happens that there are fewer of them when, uh, usually they are every

day and usually, i say, at least a third of our news releases are occupied by them. well, when it happens that there are fewer of them, it’s just that there are fewer people, maybe at some specific moment, and they focus attention on because of what is being done in ukraine today, but it is not there. i can't say that, i can even say communication with my students. very often she asks how long i know that i am from ukraine. to clarify what exactly is happening, what can be expected, as well as colleagues at work deserves solidarity, no, you can go out in new york on the street with ukrainian symbols, just a yellow -blue ribbon somewhere on your clothes. tiredness in society there is no euro - absolute understanding that this inflation, which is high in the united states, that it is caused by this

war and the understanding that ukraine must be supported, it is necessary for ukraine to win, but i want to return to the statement of the spokesman for the us national security advisor, john kirby says that ukraine is entering a new phase of the war. can you somehow comment on what the new phase of the war means for top american officials, because for the people living in ukraine, well, the war is it began full-scale on february 24 and continues, and it is difficult to determine whether it is a new or an old phase of the war, if you proceed from the comments that sound like it to me, that is, i pay very close attention to the fact that putin decided to destroy the ukrainian infrastructure, the energy electric pump structure, in particular, in order to leave ukraine without without electricity, without light, without heat, without water, er, without heating, during the winter months, special attention is paid to this, it can be considered that this is a kind

of new stage when putin decided to fight mainly with the civilian population, they are the armed forces of ukraine, with which you, in which he is not able to overcome, can you consider this a new stage, can you consider it a new stage? victory in this sense would mean that russia would be taken away from ukraine and that it would stop this war and withdraw its troops so that ukraine could free as much of its territories as possible. to the borders of international recognition in 1991, that is, i think that the new stage is exactly this because the united states, look, the perception was

like that when the repetition began. by the way, development representatives even admitted at the congressional hearing that it was their mistake to significantly overestimate the capabilities of russia and underestimate the capabilities of the armed forces of ukraine, when they usually changed their estimates. therefore now we can talk about what exactly how to win what needs to be done in order to bring russia away from ukraine thank you very much for your comment igor eisenberg professor of new york university live from the united states of america today we are talking about the visit of volodymyr zelensky to i will remind the united states of the first visit of the ukrainian president outside of ukraine after the full-scale russian invasion. zelensky plans, among other things, to speak before the american congress. and although personally zelenskyi will speak there for the first time. the speech

of the ukrainian president in the us congress will not be heard for the first time. in september 2014, the then ukrainian president petro poroshenko spoke before the congress. his almost hour-long speech was interrupted by applause more than 10 times . the same as zelensky in 2022 for weapons, in the 14th year poroshenko asked to provide ukraine with lethal weapons as well as the status of an ally outside nato, but the then us president barack obama refused to give her the first and second from the us congress. poroshenko received a standing ovation and a weapon. so far , publications with such headlines appeared on radio svobo . with a speech before the congress, the american media wrote at the time that the us legislators provided the president of ukraine with an unprecedented reception, saying

that in the recent past no foreign leader had been met with the same enthusiasm as viktor yushchenko, members of the congress listened to yushchenko's speech in ukrainian with a translation, and yushchenko spoke about the aspirations of ukrainians for democracy, called on the united states to support ukraine as a future member of nato, to which the then president george bush said that the united states approves ukraine's entry into the alliance, well, with a high degree of probability it can be assumed that in his current speech today , volodymyr zelensky will also mention ukraine's desire to become a member of nato, let's see. well, just now, pavlo klimkin, minister of foreign affairs of affairs of ukraine 2014-2019 year, good evening. can you hear us, mr. klimkin? it seems to me that we have some problems with communication. pavlo klimkin warned us that we may have

problems with communication. i would like to remind you that today we are discussing the visit of volodymyr zelensky to the united states, i will repeat once again that this is his first foreign visit from february 24 of this year since the beginning of full-scale russian authorization, and once again i will mention the latest news, which will quote more precisely the latest news that came from washington, as the adviser noted us national security john kirby president biden invited ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi to washington for talks because according to kirby the war in ukraine is entering a new phase and that is why joe biden took into account that with the onset of winter when the war enters a new phase it is a good opportunity for both leaders to meet face-to-face and talk er. we will see

what consequences this meeting will lead to. at the meeting, another next package of military aid for ukraine will be announced, also previously the media reported that the package of this aid may include patriot anti-aircraft missile complexes, which kyiv has actually been asking the united states for for a long time, and before that there was no political will whether by some other will or for other reasons. well, we will see. well, in the meantime, pavlo klimkin, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine for 14-19 years, has already joined us, but already by phone due to communication problems, nevertheless. we are glad to welcome you, mr. klimkin, kind