absolute annihilation and how is he on me glory sorry i have to interrupt you see the world is doomed to destruction just in case some other side responds with nuclear weapons to the use of nuclear weapons that is a massive a-a strike from one side a massive strike from the other side mutual annihilation right yes, is it possible, of course, and the same is possible according to this algorithm, the defense systems of all countries that are part of the nuclear club have just started to be used, and the factor of nuclear weapons is turned on, the mechanism of guaranteed destruction of the enemy and this leads to an apocalypse on a planetary scale, so i think we have to look at this rhetoric and why our american partners are quite cautious about the movement of the same hand towards the 12-hour mark, precisely because there is currently no absolutely clearly defined confrontation between the russian federation on the one hand and the combined uh,

america, on the other hand, that is, in fact, you are saying that this clock, which we have already talked about, is such a metaphor of the cold war, when everything was clear, the truth is a bipolar world. yes, we must note that now the formation of the same to the polar world is taking place, but the second is of a different composition, yes , but the second participant of this bipolar world - in fact, there is reason to hope that the people's republic of china, but in fact the russian federation, listen, but if you compare the nuclear arsenals of the united states and russia that is, first russia, then the usa and the people's republic of china, then there will be no comparison, because if russia is now even recorded here, it has the largest nuclear arsenal - it is 5977 warheads 5,428 china is only 350, i remember it for sure, so

it is growing, but it is not a short process, but to what extent china can crush the competition in the nuclear field, you understand what i am asking, i am trying to lean towards whether nuclear weapons in the modern world are really as effective as how effective is the deterrent? is it really as effective as a weapon? does the modern world need nuclear weapons at all? this is such a general question. i understand that it may be too early to post it, but this is the main thing that worries me personally. well, from time to time we hear such rhetoric is about the fact that let's all give up nuclear weapons, not only the use in general, even their possession, but it is obvious that this rhetoric will remain at the level of conversations about plans, but it is unlikely when it will be realized, because nuclear weapons are, in fact, weapons of deterrence and a kind of safeguard against the implementation of some

aggressive plans between the countries and, first of all , which we are related to nuclear science. i mentioned that it was a clash between two countries that possessed the main arsenals of nuclear weapons, they were playing a game of blackmail among themselves, who is a huge assessment of whom to review in this situation, and there are no such problems, so here it is more of a situation of the same blackmail but in a hybrid hybrid form because it is not clear in what way against whom and who can threaten and it is precisely this specificity of today that forms the answers

to your questions, it is very difficult to say now, but in my opinion nuclear weapons today have become such an instrument of psychological pressure, blackmail of trade and manipulation of the information sphere as the very weapon that destroys life, the infrastructure of the territory, it is possible and is no longer needed by humanity, we have such conventional arsenals that destroy with the same effect , and in particular, we observe this on the territory of ukraine this is actually a-but we remember that russia somewhere probably from the month of september so it started to constantly mean to blackmail er . now, now we will conduct some training there, they were going to conduct somewhere there or

in the black sea, they didn't specify exactly, of course, and then the pentagon, as far as i remember , made a fairly clear statement. he said that in case of use, i would not use weapons, but russia, the answer would be conventional weapons, but with catastrophic consequences, and as far as i remember, correct me, they said something from one point of time, they announced that the black sea fleet, that is, then the khan was full in the black sea, another time there was another statement about the fact that it could be up to the point that all the russian military forces occupying the territory of ukraine will be destroyed, that is, in fact, there is a need for nuclear weapons now. hi-maps were hacked by quite a lot of russian aggressors, then why do you

think putin keeps coming back to this type of thing, just recently after this mysterious attack by some mysterious drones on two perfectly understandable russian airfields after the damage to the nuclear bombers of the russians, putin said that it means that it is necessary to introduce a preventive strike into the nuclear force of ours. it’s true that he also ionized the americans, and how about our american partners. that’s what they have, and we will do that, why would he ? i keep coming back to that, the last contract, in my opinion, yes, first of all, this is probably always the wish of a person when she received some powerful weapon or a very interesting toy for a child, that she will always be with me and she is the most beautiful and the most scary. one example and the second - this is really

the last argument, in fact, russia loses, i won't say, it loses to ukraine, it loses to civilization as such in all parameters, and that's why all that's left is to fear civilization, only statements that we will go to paradise, so it's not really like a person who gathered, he is so well-groomed that he literally dies, someone said, someone said, whether it was fagin or the person who went to heaven , he will not inject himself with botox and build a palace . on my way to meet you, i watched the news feeds of russian publics and there was one from the news, it is oriented in the field in the window, for your reasons, the yars complex is located, it is a weapon of strategic deterrence, accordingly, it contains a nuclear component, today the information literally passed, uh, according to the confirmation from the russian ministry of defense, they say that

another complex of this type has taken over on combat duty, that is the same nuclear rhetoric of the most indirect threats is nevertheless happening, but i absolutely agree with mr. oleksandr, who prepared that this is the argument of the last hope, there is nothing else to oppose the ukrainian resistance, now the russian dictator he cannot, moreover, he also cannot stop the same military and technical support from the countries of the collective west of the countries that are part of the rammstein 50+ club, and here putin resorts to all kinds of provocations in order to change the situation for our own benefit wow well, let's literally imagine for a moment that well, let's pretend that putin's name is there and let's believe that there is something there. maybe it's not just that he says it, oh, it's not just that, we'll say it, and i just want to ask you. in your opinion, whether maybe you know some data, do you have information on what you think the state

of russia's nuclear arsenal is, the fact is that we have already seen here the second army of the world, which is capable of marching, reach dalamandra here and seize warsaw with an arsenal, because according to the nuclear arsenal, it is there the first e-e army of the world yes and what and actually the question is you which you become very uncomfortable both for putin and for his entourage after looking at these soldiers now we ask ourselves well, well, well, they will press, will they press this button and what will happen and will it go the appropriate reaction or the chain will work uh, six uh, these steps, each of which should work. for me, it is as effective as possible at its level, according to the specified algorithm, and will the same uh-uh rocket that enters the thing not return, it returned again with high-mar rockets in tomash, here they are, these rszoochy, some missiles were returned because they were of poor quality, and please tell me if it is a question or

a problem of nuclear weapons of a direct nuclear strike, well, at least if we do not reject it, then we definitely push it away, so far this is not an option, so what to do with the option which russia i still managed to do it, i will now tell you about the seizure of nuclear power plants, what it is , we know that the russians tried to ask , they did not even try, they seized the chernobyl nuclear power plant and it was there for a certain time. well, then they glowed there and made a gesture of goodwill, now they still hold the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant the station , moreover, it is now disconnected, and even as of now, it seems that a day has passed, generators were working there specifically in order not to leave it, because again this line that feeds it is a it turned out to be interrupted what russia wants to achieve in this way. that this is the next step of nuclear blackmail, another variant of it, or that

, in my opinion, it is not worth connecting nuclear blackmail, have they undermined the nuclear blocs with the strategy by politics and the tactics of the russian forces to seize these objects before the war , somewhere in february, a leak of some document appeared, in particular, an analyst who circulated as if somewhere in the upper reaches of russia and how we will equip ukraine after we seize the energy sector there there were three priorities, roughly speaking, the seizure of assets of important energy assets on the territory of ukraine, we are talking about the fact that they wanted a gas transportation system for a long time, the second is heat and hydro generation and separate nuclear power plants

, this is such a common policy of looting the territory , seizing important assets, the second point is more due to the fact that they planned to establish their power here, or at least in the territory of the south, accordingly, the captured territory must be provided with local resources, therefore zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant it obviously served first of all as a source of energy for the new captured territory that it planned and help with the supply of electricity to crimea because it still remains scarce. i think this was their idea and the logic of actions. what should they do now? i think there is a cure for the russians. about the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. these medicines are called the armed

forces of ukraine and they will soon be cured. maga-magats is an organization that in 1967-1968 was asked by the united nations to monitor participation in the implementation of the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, nuclear energy can be included in the technological cycle of manufacturing nuclear weapons , and megatels were delegated such a right to monitor whether it is not used nuclear materials and technology at the stations for military purposes of the armed hurrah their mandate their mandate they control the use of the material it does not apply to this situation guidance armed conflicts warfare and interstate wars, if there was a channel or a lever through

which the un could intervene in the situation correctly , yes, it is actually an authoritative and respected organization in the world, which can express its, let's say, independent opinion in the conflict between two countries, and this is a response to the the un is an organization, even though it has its own entities separate from the un, but they cooperate, that is, the un and megatel are like that. well, for now, we have the system that we have that we have at the international level. and please tell me , you are absolutely fair in my opinion actually said the armed forces of ukraine, but since we live in the country of chernobyl, we do not forget about this, er, i want to calm our viewers a little, and the answers to the questions, er, what could possibly

arise, and i think that such an occurrence is very possible , but to conduct a hot phase of hostilities in the area of ​​the nuclear plant near the nuclear plant and at the nuclear plant it is dangerous here it is certainly dangerous and this is what the russian troops violated on march 3rd or 4th when they fired heavy weapons at the blocks of the nuclear power plant well, they sometimes ask foreign journalists. i say that the armed forces of ukraine behave in accordance with international rules of warfare. they definitely care about their people and their country and will not do this. and how can it be carried out, this treatment? specialists in order to perform an operation, and all around and the military is quiet, calm, noiseless and quiet , they say from time to time we hear such rhetoric

from the russian media about the fact that russia is ready to make the same concessions a gesture of goodwill and burn the territory of energodar, respectively zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant but we are all aware of the fact that the russian occupation army has never voluntarily left the territory of our country, all this happened as a result of skillful actions of the ukrainian defense forces, and here i agree with mr. oleksandrov about the fact that only the new ukrainian army will pass a powerful contour offensive in the area of ​​the cornflowers and move forward at least 30 a, preferably 50 km, the same russian guards of the nuclear power plant on the activated heels and will flee towards the crimea, and only gai will make noise, because it is obvious that in this case, if we look at the geographical position of the energy source, they will have no other option to save their miserable lives. therefore, it is obvious that only the ukrainian defense forces can act in such a way that you release the territory of the zaporizhzhia npp in relation to the actions of our

special forces, our werewolves. of course , they have certain competencies in order to carry out actions at the tactical level . of the russian occupier and we know the information that there is currently a heavy harrow, equipment and weapons of the russian occupiers on the territory of the technical area of ​​the zaporizhzhya npp, what is the way it should be used, what consequences can it lead to, can it lead to we can only guess with you but in the case of atomic nuclear energy, one cannot guess, one must be as careful as possible and aware that the lesson must be destroyed in such a way as our werewolves quietly came and quietly left oleksandra and you also quite rightly and appropriately said that russia pursues well, let's say economic goals in terms of the appropriation of assets , it looks like they are

just taking what they can reach, so they were able to reach the zaporizhzhia npp and seized it, well, now they probably don't know what to do because, as mr. vladyslav he said, pushed, they will do their job, sooner or later it will be real, but i have such a question. in belarus, this is such a white thesis, you know how it is in strugatsk. that is, it is there, it is not, and it is said to her. well, what are we doing here to spread panic, nothing will happen recently, on the contrary, the mood has started to change, there are even certain, well, conditionally forecasts that, well, maybe january february it can be 20 weeks and so on to what extent the rivne npp can be in the risk zone to what extent it can

repeat the fate of the zaporizhzhia npp. power plants are included in the planned capture zone. well, it seems to me that we are doing so, that is, from that point of view, it is already a question of the military . on the eve of the war, in fact, and today , the protection of critical infrastructure objects has been significantly strengthened, both from the point of view of protection against air attacks, ground attacks,

and sabotage attacks. an airborne operation with the aim of capturing or taking control of both the rivne and the khmelnytsky npp, and we still remember that there is a southern ukrainian npp that is also in the risk zone . and most likely, with such critical losses, if in fact this kind of operation will be disrupted and not implemented, because it is obvious that the ukrainian defense forces pay a lot of attention to the protection of important critical objects in our case of nuclear power what do you think about capturing the npp and zaporizhzhia, or is it possible there ? god forbid, this is just a possibility . i emphasize that we are not predicting anything. we are

talking theoretically. why? in this part of the world, what are you going to do with the energy produced in general, well, that is, you are the one who seized the nuclear power plant, they tell you dear vladimir vladimirovich well, they seized, they seized, and what to do with it in fact, there is no sense in these operations for the capture of khmelnytskyi and rivne , southern ukraine, because zaporizhia will soon be left because they will lose the war, everything loses its meaning and there is no sense in these operations, before them there was the idea of ​​capturing the whole of ukraine, it was, of course, an asset that would help and further aggressive rights the bread was taken away and now, well, let's drive out the energy like this. is it possible that this is the only idea to remind ukraine? ugh

, you can guess everything literally somewhere in buch, in the corner of the house. we are talking about all this because of one single event and russia. by the way, it should be participating in the diametrically opposite of what it is doing now, and we are talking about the fact that ukraine is the only country in the world that voluntarily gave up nuclear weapons at one time . once er and it means believing the guarantees er of the budapest memorandum russia is one of the signatories and so on and first of all what is er like the american arteke wei what a lesson so we are showing the world what is really true or correct me if i am wrong ukraine the example of ukraine shows the world, which is not possible under any circumstances to give up e nuclear weapons, i understand you correctly, it is more precisely obvious, because

it is clear that a conscious decision to give up the third largest nuclear potential in the world led to such devastating consequences when the guarantor country of the budapest memorandum is actually an aggressor country and other participants er, er, er, signing this document take a fairly moderate position. this is obvious, because there is currently a lot of discussion about how great britain and the united states of america should act by joining this agreement with china, we see that there is a lot of reasoning and specific actions taken to restore the territorial value of our country, this is only oleksandr correctly said the armed forces of ukraine, i added it because your question is quite serious and difficult, but i would divide it into two separate subjects.

a lesson to the world that do not give up nuclear weapons if you have them or acquire them, i would say here that in the possession of nuclear weapons it is not a simple eh hmm organizational technological economic process of the life of the country is it is not just that something is in the warehouse, it is necessary to have a whole chain of technological e-e operations in order to maintain in a safe state what is in the warehouse of rich , highly organized societies, and when these chains fail somewhere, it can be worse for countries. well, when a country understands that it does not extract this it is possible to risk not acquiring nuclear weapons or giving them away as they did to ukraine, the other question is whether there are

guarantees or whether there are players in the global space who keep their word and who gave guarantees security, and in this situation, ukraine once again demonstrated a lesson to the world that something must be done about it, and i think that to the extreme moral responsibility, our western guarantors feel and help us in this process, the next step, if humanity learns these lessons, will be the reformation of this whole system and in particular within the framework of the security system of the security system of the international level and in particular within the framework of the un. i think something must also happen because it is impossible for humanity to face the challenge when some country well, a little something in in an alternative reality, one person can destroy the whole world, humanity cannot accept this. please tell me what

are your overall chances of ukraine getting nuclear weapons again in the modern world. and why would i come back again? it's not just to own some box. wow. this is a much more complicated process. can we use these resources that we will spend on the development of the economy, on infrastructure, on recovery, on raising the level? education, new breakthrough technologies, to direct at least part of these funds to the development of the ukrainian army, because the armed forces of ukraine have actually proven that this is the most effective weapon at the moment, well, the armed forces of ukraine plus american and there british western technologies. everything works perfectly and it is even unclear why nuclear weapons are true here

it is necessary, gentlemen. and we are talking. maybe a little less than we planned, but it seems to me that we have grasped the main aspects of this topic. i really wanted to show our viewers with this conversation that all the fears and phobias that are floating around the possibility of russia's use of nuclear weapons, and they are actually, well, they are groundless, at least for now in this situation. they are afraid that putin will press the red button and specific air alarms are not afraid of rockets, the children sit further on the sofa, do nothing and do not go, and that i will go there, as you remember, it seems in the soviet union these 17 moments of spring there, borman seems

says or who says until i close everything and until i go down it means i will go down the stairs until the alarm ends well that's about it our citizens don't be afraid to press the button for now he is not going to well besides the armed forces of ukraine - this is a much more effective weapon than this one rusty russian nuclear arsenal. let's hope that it will continue. and pal oleksandr suho fate expert of the national institute of strategic studies, gentlemen, i thank you very much for the cool, realistic conversation and i hope that i will see you in this studio. maybe we will talk about other topics. well, the marathon is the only news going on. there is no

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