and we already also understand where they are going, how they are going and we are trying to warn our colleagues in other cities on the border, it is most difficult for energy companies to renew the lines eh well , in fact, we can’t quite say this there are certain moments when people, even the energy industry, simply with all their desire, they cannot fix the line, let's say, because it is located directly on the border , but nevertheless, they find ways for the energy industry to do it, to restore us, for example, the same one from the skilchyn starostatno, which was fired upon yesterday, well , more precisely, one because there was the irichov starostat, again absolutely latin booths there in some villages people were without

electricity for several sundays the batteries are out of order, those who receive a mobile connection there or the internet, etc. after 3-4 hours, when we have light, then such a thing already occurs, as you can say that there is a complete block account, and now for us it is just such a big problem, everything like this connection and working to buy somewhere sterling to put even in public places and the suburban council so that people still have a connection with other parts of ukraine with their relatives, sir, i am with the connection. i understand that there are certain problems. yes, even with the central authorities . there are communication problems , but i think that they are only because we are on the border. and there are certain systems of electronic warfare that work against us, then you can say that it is he is the one who is a bit of a hindrance to us. well, it's normal to communicate, uh, there are problems p yurii well, yes, the russian jammers are just standing there

and jamming the internet and uh, mobile communication, sir, and what is happening on the other side of the border in the territories of the so -called russian federation, which are neighboring to you, maybe they are already building some fortifications, they are creating terrodefense, we know in the border regions in years, there is some information, there is some communication, how are the people there, have they already left their villages? they say that they are subjected to some kind of harassment. what do you know, now we have no contact with them who was there before because, as far as we know, the fsb checks the phones of people who have relatives there, even there, in order to find out whether there was any transfer of information or not. therefore, unfortunately, we do not have a large information, we know that they are leaving. yes, we have something closer - it's tiotkina, it's a populated village, it's on the russian

side, friends, it's already evacuated a lot of people, and a lot of people have left about something else, well, you know, i would n't say that. well, from a tree. as far as i know, they don't have such a thing. in a different way a where are they evicted, where are they evacuated well, i think that it is possible, the course is possible, that is, bigger, er, bigger, er, cities, well, aunts, there were checkpoints, yes, and there, people went there just as guests. i imagined one such large agglomeration in general well, despite the fact that these are two different countries, well, everyone has already done this story about this building, a house where half of the grandmother's house is in ukraine, half is in russia, that is, shops in one village had a cemetery in the other, for example, our railway the ryzhivka station was there on the territory of russia

, that is, it was all like that, relocated , mixed up, but in fact, it was right here, after all, more or less powerful, er, excavation was powerful, not a node, but industry was there, there was a distillery, a sugar factory, a pebble, that is , where was to work for people and uh now there were certain certain destructions at these factories someone conquered no no not very successfully and still people stood up people without jobs and are leaving well maybe for relatives well they have a tradition this is close to the course because well people left to learn to work there, i think that the families went there for their children, most likely you are aware of yuriy, we were in the 14th year after the 14th year after the beginning of the russian aggression. people said then, well, how come we lived in the same place all our lives , my relatives, well, it was really like one village

, and how do the locals feel now, well, in fact, they stayed to live both in the same yard and in the same village, but now, you know even despite the fact that ours is still ours the residents of ryzhev are mainly ethnic russians. well, this is still the 18th century. of course , this is so historical, but my aunt, for example, is an ethnic ukrainian. but despite this, they still think that 90% have changed their views, and probably 90% of the time that they will are there russian-speaking and ethnic russians, after all, they became a patriot of ukraine well, after all, you leave 10%, how much will it be at the border in ukraine, er, there from russia, it will be possible, it is not in the west of ukraine, in any city there is a certain category what

they are such people, you have a lot of them at the border police, according to collaborators, we had one legal process that was not brought to the end, because the person is mentally ill and continues to walk around the city, everyone knows, well, the security service works, of course, they find out but so far there is such a case that if anything was discovered, it was because of this person. well, they say that she is mentally ill, and they can't isolate anything, mr. yuriy. we thank you very much for taking the time for our broadcast. is located right on the border with russia, there are even houses where half of the houses are located on the territory of ukraine, half of the houses are on the territory of russia, in the military’s briefings and from the front line, the positions are covered in fire. you see , the bakhmut direction we were talking about

is very important. i am constantly repeating now in this critical the moment for local self-government to work effectively, then people are calm and see that the head is in place, the deputies are all working or there is communication, there is a connection and people support the military, the military gives hope to the people and it all only works in the complex. why have we been standing it for 10 months? it only works in a circle in the complex. only the armed forces cannot fight alone when the people do not resist . that's why we hold on, let's buy further kyiv region will hit and wait, well, in zaporizhzhia, on the eve of the morning of december 22, as a result of rocket fire with cluster munitions in the village of komyshuvakha, which is not far from zaporizhzhia, two teenagers were killed, unfortunately this was announced by the head of the zaporizhzhia regional administration oleksandra, the old woman, the

enemy decided to bury two boys alive , a rocket hit their house, they survived the wall, not two heroes, three and 15 years old, they survived where no stone could withstand and they will live, they must, they will win. i apologize to the surviving boys, that is, me i was wrong , everything is fine, but their house was destroyed mykhailyna skoryk shkarivska joins the deputy mayor of bucha and a member of the irpin city council p mykhailyna good morning good morning, i'm actually very glad to see you hear because yesterday they were able to contact me. we had no electricity or communication for two days in this area of ​​irpen, where i am. accordingly, it is really morning here, more or less. good afternoon to him, you know when i have a wife, yesterday it was, well, somewhere close at lunchtime she informed me that the light was turned on after it was turned off the day before at seven in the morning the previous day , that is, it was not there for 36 hours of the whole world, this

was the most joyful news that i received yesterday, don't believe me. please tell me what the situation is. let's start with this from electricity supply. perhaps you know about irpini and i am asking for patience in general. many of the residents of our region yesterday from noon until the evening began to receive electricity after the absence and there for 24 hours and 36 hours. in some houses, they did not have it for 4 days. well, and people were just enjoying the light, watching tv shows, using washing machines, despite the fact that they said that it shouldn't be done, well, people were enjoying civilization, you can see and hear me. the phone call will end now, that's why you can see it, and that's why it's

complicated because it's increasingly difficult to raise the infrastructure after new attacks, and accordingly, the local government is preparing to work without electricity, we're buying more and more generators and trying to make such a chain system that the generators keep critical infrastructure is also happening in bucha, it is also happening in irpen and throughout the buchan district, throughout the kyiv region , and also in kyiv. and what is the situation with the supply water because in irpen i know the mayor there himself is from the vodokanal, so even when the light goes out there is water there because i know in kyiv the light is turned off and there is no water in lviv the same story and in buch what about this and in other cities the situation is again after all, it is very different because it depends on how this water is supplied, i.e. those in our region have such a feature that

water is raised from er-eer wells and then raised to the surface accordingly. if it is possible to provide this rise with generators, then it is possible to supply water that what in buchi, we purchase powerful generators. we have one with over 600 kw that we received from macedonia. and on this one, we installed it on the hm clean water tanks and on the central boiler room, and this allowed it to recover several wells, and also connect the prosecutor's office, connect the fire station, if i'm not mistaken, connect the police to the traffic lights, and accordingly, in this neighborhood, in those houses that are located on these lines of critical infrastructure, there is also water and electricity in that, and the main difficulty is technological, as act generators that you can't put one generator and give light everywhere, you have to

build a certain power supply chain that helps to keep critical infrastructure and also supply heat and water to houses in all the cities of our region, but they are working on this technological chain where it is possible to build it there is light and where there is a different way of connecting the boiler well, there are problems there, this is actually the answer to the question why does my neighbor have a light? unfortunately, it is impossible simply mechanically. well, how do you know to switch the electricity here with a hose or there, you need to build a technological chain, and as a rule, these are very slow and expensive solutions, because, for example, we are now actively working on generators from turkey, we bring them from european countries from partners , but this is a very slow, rather scrupulous process, that is, even from receiving it can take from two to three weeks for a full connection if these are powerful generators or they need to be serviced and er properly started and it

hmm there are all kinds of nuances even with new equipment that comes according to what we we ask people to be self-organized as much as possible and also to look for solutions for their houses. because in those houses where there is uh, uh, a substation gives condominiums and where there is a substation inside the house, there should also be a generator there, that is, i am really telling you technological things about which even three months ago i had no idea. and now at every meeting, everyone already knows how to build this technological chain. we constantly talk about technological chains. we talked about technological chains yesterday or the day before yesterday with energy supply experts, and they told me about the history of our buchi irpenya that most of our houses are heated with gas boilers and they need electricity if there is no light then there is no and if there is no heating at a low temperature the pipes will freeze and a disaster can

happen like in alchevsk and these experts said that what is needed to install small generators there at the entrance to the house in order to use them to power these boilers in this situation. generators to maintain the operation of boilers to maintain heating because well, if there is a blackout and sub-zero temperatures, it will be a disaster, please, we are all in conditions of a limited budget. and this is a very expensive solution, and i guess they have to honestly say that there is no money in the budget of any of the communities that have undergone occupation buy enough generators accordingly. we sent letters to all airport operators. we asked everyone, all embassies to help us, and they are generators of different calibers, so depending on which generator we get, for example, from

in budapest, we had five three- to five -kilowatt generators . it is clear that such generators go to heating points and they can go to such a boiler house. about this technological chain, it is said that you can power up the entire critical infrastructure and heat can be supplied to the house, but not enter the house because there is no generator on the gas boiler. to interact with the local government to find a solution faster, because it is clear that when there is, even though there was such a wavey supply of electricity, let's say so, because it's no longer graphs. it's just waves, and that's more. well, it's more comfortable to implement all these solutions from your side, you can say that enough is enough well , we receive a generator every day, accordingly, you

made an agreement with them, but the european partners postponed most of the deliveries to january because they have holidays, well, it must also be taken into account that the equipment you order is moving very slowly. therefore, now the task of every ukrainian is to find a solution to help oneself or one's neighbors, one must prepare and find a joint solution. there is really no way out, because the three coldest months of the year are ahead, because we have a relatively warm autumn and a relatively warm december here, we were happy, and in that respect that we were able to save electricity and m.m. fuel ms. mykhailo our myhal said that the scenarios of resettling people for these difficult winter months are not considered if there is a blackout, there won't be these wave shutdowns, as of now we are studying and we are also not considering the option of houses from generators

and we are working on it. but i think that the problem is more serious in big cities because if it is all about 700-800 houses for the whole community . it is more or less realistic to build this chain, at least we have calculated what we need and understood how many small and large generators we need to find, but we did not find them, so we calculated for one city and one community imagine kyiv, and i don't believe that they will build such a chain there, everything depends on the situation, it is clear that if the situation is controlled and does not reach the point where there will be a threat of frozen pipes, then no one will evict people , so here we have to make decisions in the course of how will the situation worsen or remain at the same level as it is or will it improve, and i also wanted to ask briefly about the connection. when you walk through our cities, with patience, you can see that people

use the internet exclusively from private businesses, there the store is open access, they stand on the street like a queue. well, there they correspond, they call, there are some points of some other network of trades. they also use similar points of communication organized by the authorities. i have not yet seen people come and use the internet there, well, of course, there the business provides a shoulder. but it seems to me that the authorities should also pay attention to this, the distribution of the internet is very important, communication at the current city council, we have a social temple there, formed in connection with the shutdown of the buch center, and everyone comes precisely to the city council we have a connection we just a month ago invested the money we received from our american partners to improve the wi-fi network, he withstood the navanta on maxim which was a-a in connection with the fact that its council employees were working and people came to

study with us, we hold business conferences, our meeting hall has turned into a co-working space , it is quiet there and they work quietly in the hall, it is a little slow, but in principle, people work on the floor and not on chairs, on sofas , up to 200 people were at the same time in the city council also the central point of indomitability on kyiv square there is stalin and so, when on december 19, despite everything, we decided to light the christmas tree for half an hour and it was the maximum number of people coming to kyiv square, the central square in bucha, then this sterling did not allow us to conduct a live broadcast and we are now looking for an amplifier, there is such a router, signal amplifiers, so we are working on it. but again, we ordered it. we want to finalize the order of the batch of sterlinks, but it is not just that it is a slow process, but now , all the time as we speak is minimal the delivery time of stalinka is one month. thank you, ms. mykhailena, business. i think that it

should be said that thanks to the business that it provides communication to them easier, because they already had it sewn into the budget, and this is a very good decision . the energy of business and the government should be just right here. to this issue, mykhaylyna skorykh, deputy mayor of shkoriv, ​​buchi, member of the irpin city council, was one of our guests, vadym denysenko, advisor to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine and executive director of the ukrainian institute of the future, vadim greetings, good day, i i just read that the institute of the future presented a new work and you are already thinking about how to rebuild ukraine. can you briefly explain what this initiative is? well, actually, it is a little broader, it is called how to win the war and how not to play reconstruction . everything is mostly about war and one way or another, in principle, we understand each one's own part, i can talk about the informational part, which is what happens here during the war and how, in

principle, to fight it, because in reality we we understand that during the last few months, russian bots have become stronger and they are really spreading two key topics and they are connected to two topics, and the first one is always the uh-e lighting - this is actually electricity and they are very strongly pumping the story that the government wants to freeze us the authorities want to leave us without electricity, they want the bodies to die , and so on. only in this part i can talk about it. if we talk about the administrator of the future, then in principle we need to think already now, although it seems very far away, but right now we need to think about what ukraine will be like after the war because we have a huge threat of that that we can start building again the ukrainian soviet socialist republic 3:0, that is, we had one ukrainian ssr from 17 to 1991, then we had a

de facto ukrainian ssr from 1991 to 22, and there is a huge threat that we are as he said chernobyl turned out to be kps, that is, in principle, we can start to build the ukrainian ssr, and that is why we need to think about how to fall into the whole trap, how to get out of the situation, how to make sure that all the victims that are now being brought to ukraine do not become stamps for the all-ukrainian people, mr. volodymyr, i quoted you several times yesterday in your post about russia's intentions to mobilize about the protracted war, about the long game and about the fact that putin is trying to turn the russian-ukrainian war into a second afghanistan, a second a war, is ukraine ready for this now, what should we do in this situation, well, in principle first of all, we need to understand that it really wo n't end in a week after two in other words , we need to clearly understand, well, i really said from the first day what we told you do you understand that this is a marathon and uh, in principle, unlike many other cases in our history

there is every chance to finish this marathons will be victorious in this marathon therefore, the first thing is to understand what we need to be aware of, in no case should we tune in to the dexterity of abundance, because then you will definitely lose the second moment, we need to rebuild completely on military lines for a long period of time, unfortunately, in principle, based on this, you need to build the economy of the country and, as a matter of fact, adjust your psychological state. well, the army, in principle, is there and they know what to do there and they know how to fight, you write about the fact that the russians have radically changed their attitude to mobilization, and how do you explain it, that support has changed, if before the announcement 13:15% supported it, then after putin's decree, there is support for the government's actions of 57%, more than half, well

even then, the government is mobilizing because it is working. the government will support more than 60%, in principle, everything can be explained by only one thing, that is, there is a psychological concept of cognitive dissonance - when a person understands that he is doing something wrong, if you simplify it very much, he does something with the article, you need to reconcile yourself with the outside world. and actually speaking, then she begins to invent certain constructions that give her moral reassurance. actually, let's say now, they came up with for themselves that uh, mobilization is plan b, and this plan b will allow uh to solve all the issue of war and will decide at the end of the war, therefore, in this case, the russians are for themselves. this is how they explained it. the authorities got a backlash and they will use this backlash to tighten the nuts as much as possible in order to really start with the next draft all from the spring of 2023, start

increasing the number of armed forces as much as possible, that is, in principle, the decision made recently by the ministry of defense of the russian federation is to increase the russian army by 400,000 people, unmotivated, unprepared, and so on . in this case, putin is a hunter in categories that can only be thought by a person who grew up in the soviet union and did not leave the soviet union, that is, as he wrote from house, he quoted it once for 70 wars, zakhar prescribed it when i asked for 100,000 tons of shells from 10 people with a movement, he asked somewhere there for shells, they are a hundred thousand people, that is, in principle , they believe that even more this number of people will help win this war, unfortunately, in principle , there are a lot of them, everything else is not scary, vadim, well, the international position of ukraine to what extent it intensified after zelenskyi’s visit to the usa, where he was very well

received and received a lot of compliments and financial military aid, along with this , at the same time, macron’s statement that ukraine is unlikely to become a member of nato because you can’t tease russia, well, if that’s the case in general to say that here the position of france changes little, all the stories are possible, the positions of european partners are also how much closer we have become to our security after this visit, after macron's statement and the change in the rhetoric of the germans, including, you know, i can say only one thing that uh, in principle, uh, on february 24, no one believed that we could have more than three days, uh, later, no one believed that they would ever give us a chance. a month ago, we didn't believe. well, we didn't believe, that is many did not believe that the patriots would give us, in principle , now many do not believe that in a few months they will give us otak, i am sure that in principle, unfortunately, it is very slow, but we are moving towards all set in

principle, did anyone believe on february 24 that in a few days e-e ukraine will become a candidate a member of the european union no, no one believed it, but it happened exactly the same with all these statements that are happening now. that is, unfortunately, there is no magic pill that will allow you to solve all the issues within one day. unfortunately, in principle, macron will continue to call putin what is a deep-seated psychological psychological error, because uh, the paths are uh, any ringing weakness, but in principle, well, we have what we have, so in this case, i would really like the ice to be refracted less about this, that is, uh, is there it now the threat is macron's statement that we will not join, that he is against the accession of the leading nato countries to date, is this a threat that we will decrease the supply of weapons from western porters no, is this a threat that they will stop helping us next year there is no such

threat to the financial european union, therefore, in principle, having removed the key problems, we will work on prospects that will allow us to join the european union in the future, and finally, we have a lot of time to reflect on the latest information from pereyaslav-khmelnytskyi in the case about the murders of kirill tlyav, for me it is simply shocking. the information that the day before pereyaslavskyi city district court released from custody the only fourth accused who was in ivan prykhodko's pretrial detention center, at that time he was an employee of the ministry of internal affairs, the murder of kirill klyav happened on may 31, 1919, that is the trial has been going on for 3.5 years . there is no way to find, well, pass a sentence. find out who exactly killed kirill tlyauv. then a group of men got drunk and shot cans with their weapons and accidentally killed the boy. well, as the investigation established and the most important thing is that now ukraine will also pay from its taxes in this case to ivan a fee of more than 8,000 € for the fact that he was

improperly held in a pre-trial detention center on humane conditions, but yours is difficult, it just seems to me that this is a sentence for ukrainian justice and all the ukrainian law enforcement system. to you well, in principle, well, there is probably not quite the right to say anything here, but from my personal point of view, uh, i can say that yes, really, when we started our conversation with the question of how to lose reconstruction, that's all you're talking about now the courts spoke of the elements of the fact that we can lose reconstruction by winning the day, well, that is, decipher it. i would say what i said here, in principle, this is one of the elements that, in principle, undermines any trust of a person in e-e justice, and therefore in the state, therefore in this in this case, this is one of the biggest problems that exists in general in the e-e state of ukraine today. well, and the technical question, vadim will not be put on even by ivan prykhod . in this, the main suspect of the

boy's murderer has an electronic bracelet. and since there are apparently no working bracelets in the system of the ministry of internal affairs is it true, well, for those people who are under house arrest, i am not ready to comment on it. i don't know if thank you, mr. volodymyr, vadim denysenko, the advisor to the minister of internal affairs was with us, and the executive director of the ukrainian institute of the future in half a minute, then i will read the grandmother's reaction who was the only one who spoke at the court against this decision, against changing the preventive measure , the grandmother of the boy oleksandra tlyavova spoke up, she said she is the next one, they will make him a piece of paper that he, uh, that he will work a question mark, the suspect will pass by me every day, this is the murderer and the boy's father is standing under the bachmouth with a machine gun , now the grandmother said, if he finds out, he will come here on foot. well, how is it at this stage to release him under house arrest?