a-a i agree that the situation a-a is really extremely difficult today and the epiphany will come er-er not today and not tomorrow but er-er well i believe that it will er-er because well this ghost er-er will fall and er from the eyes of the russians er will die putin will definitely leave er this government ah well actually the central committee of the cpsu is still in power there today, these are all those old men who still found the soviet union and they miss him, they will definitely die , leave, and uh, it will definitely change. the system in russia is what it is now. will it be better? will it be worse, it is difficult to predict now, most likely, there

will be no improvement from anyone, but today, plunging a large country into a situation similar to north korea is unlikely to succeed . that is, very scary things await them. upheaval they are waiting for a terrible story from the middle of the destruction, but first of all, it will end lada, and secondly, there will be a big big problem with communication, and well, on top of that, propaganda i don't think there will be anything feed this propaganda. i am convinced of this, and at that moment it will all begin to collapse, you know i wouldn't say that, i don't believe in my word, and

we only have a couple of minutes left. what kind of games in the information field can there be? in the next year, maybe you can do something like that. you see it as preparation for some specific disinformation companies. they can try something. they can do this . something like this can already be predicted very, very specifically. well, what we see and the trends that we note, they have very little room for maneuver, they will inflate the topics that they are dispersing today, they will impose on to impose on them, to pile them on, and to demand further , definitely this energy direction is a question of exporting electricity to neighboring countries and a-a the presence of a deficit in our energy sphere eh-eh these are the topics on which they are trying to shake ukrainian society as much as possible to bring people to the street eh

it doesn't work. i think they won't succeed. this is the second military direction. they will move the companies empty in the direction that the fighters refuse to fight. they are already tired. we see them speeding up. they have a whole movie production on this topic is working they do all this but it doesn't go in thank you thank you it was andriy shapovalov the head of the nsdc disinformation event center they talked about the directions of the disinformation company well, let's meet and listen to people suffering from rheumatism and

arthrosis it's impossible to get used to it, it doesn't allow me to move. i tried everything. and at the pharmacy, i bought a yellow dolgit cream. it saves me from the pain of rheumatism, relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves mobility. mykolaiv is in a hurry in his bag, he brings us gifts, tanks, javelins, planes and mines , guns and cartridges, rockets and drones, mykolaiv is in a hurry, pave the way, give the ukrainians a complete victory, merry christmas, happy new year, iryna koval , mother, wife of the espresso tv channel. and i am also a volunteer, our soldiers at the front need a lot of things every day and that is why part of

my life today is helping the armed forces of ukraine, and i am very grateful to my colleagues for supporting me in this sport during the war, which is empty stadiums without fans on tribunes, empty sports halls, and destroyed sports facilities. our athletes lost the opportunity to train at home because of the war and had to flee abroad to prepare for the upcoming competitions. those who remained with weapons in their hands are heroically defending ukraine in this war. even a small contribution to the support of the army can help from you. it saves the lives of our soldiers and brings our victory closer.

i congratulate the program of the ukrainian voice of america service on the air. i am its host ostap. last year, the us congress finally approved the draft of the government budget, where, among other things, they pledged an additional 45 billion to support ukraine and its partners after the sonata. this decision was supported by the house of representatives, among other bills, which provided for the confiscation of the property of russian oligarchs and their transfer to the benefit of ukraine. the value of possible seized assets is billions say the co-authorship of the initiative and note that this step will take the pressure off american taxpayers about the eye and other decisions of the american congress, let's talk with kateryna lisunova, who joins our broadcast from the kapitriya hill, katya congratulates you, i congratulate ostap, let's start with the approval of the government budget in the congress, in fact, there were a lot of discussions among the legislators around this, what were their disagreements

katya and how the voting took place, i would start with the fact that in today's congress will put the final point by voting, it can be said that all american legislators agreed on the governmental plan of the united states of america for 2023, which includes additional aid for ukraine the size of 45 billion, yes, billions of dollars, as well as other important initiatives for ukraine, and the final point was not put in this consideration by the house of representatives by voting today 225 to 221, however, as you correctly noted , the vote and consideration did not take place without objections and not without critical debates. and i note that even after the vote, after the final vote, the counting of these votes, some republicans issued a statement challenging this vote, as if the house of representatives was not sick enough because there were not enough representatives of

legislators in the field and many of them voted really remotely and asked their colleagues to vote for them, this procedure really was the majority who spoke against it were the republicans and one of the reasons why it was the republicans was the speech of the republican leader of the house of representatives, kevin mccarty, who at the very beginning he categorically opposed this government budget, his speech lasted long enough, he actually criticized a lot of initiatives in this budget, i will note that it is adopted in the format the boss is smart, that is, a package with various initiatives, but it is worth noting that in his speech, in a rather long speech, there was criticism of virtually all the initiatives that, according to him, the democrats introduced into this package, but there was no criticism of aid to ukraine, instead, the speaker of the house of representatives, nancy polosi, a democrat in emphasized in her speech that this may be her last

speech as the speaker of the house of representatives and also emphasized that it is necessary to approve this in the regular budget, in particular because it will provide additional assistance for i suggest to ukraine to listen to their speeches just now, the democrats failed to do their job madam speaker, is anyone ready to argue with this, why did the americans fire you? do we have time to read this bill or discuss this bill or mark the costs no members of congress here what to vote for this no all right we have

your votes in our pockets democrats think this is hardly what the american people want but in 11 days everything will change we are going to restore the integrity of this body and its service to the american people after this institution has been covered in disgrace for the last time under the one-man rule of the democrats a new approach to things is coming only 11 days and the republicans will fulfill their promise i urge you to vote against the government budget maybe this will be my last speech as speaker of the house of representatives in this hall and i hope it will be my shortest speech in ukraine government budget among another supports the extraordinary heroes in ukraine who are fighting on the front lines of the battle for democracy in this legislative act. we are proud to provide them with another significant package of security economic and humanitarian

aid, and a few days ago the president of ukraine said that it is not about charity, but about national security work and what a special honor it was for us personally to listen to the powerful speech of president zelensky, as he spoke about the courage and self-sacrifice, heroism and hope of his people , and of course this bill will support our everyday heroes american families are the people who make our country work our families grow our communities prosper despite the fact that the majority of republicans voted against this government budget, this cannot be attributed to the alleged opposition with the help of ukratela kevin mccarty did not express any criticism of the investment in his speech aid for ukraine and the budget are used in america, for example, last year the votes were very similar, it was 220 votes against 213, and at that time the question of ukraine was not even in the budget

was raised and was not present, and it is also worth noting that after the vote in the congress, this government budget for the year 1223 will then go to the signature of the president of the united states of america. katya wants to ask you more about the amendment, an amendment among many and which was also included in this bill about withdrawal of funds of russian oligarchs who propose to direct to support ukraine, where exactly do american legislators propose to direct these confiscated funds. which is adopted in the format of beams, that is, in a package with various initiatives, and this amendment also applies to ukraine and will help to transfer money from the sale of confiscated e-e in the varnish of the hidden property of oligarchs and sanctioned persons in the united states of america, funds will be transferred in favor of ukraine, according to the legislators for in order

to help ukraine in the defense sector for the reconstruction of ukraine, as well as for the payment of reparations in the war, the value of possible confiscated assets is billions of dollars legislators and that, in addition, they emphasize that this will not relieve the pressure on the taxpayers of the united states of america and will create an additional source of financial payments for ukraine despite those allocated from the budget of the united states of america . semi-authoritedemocrat republican i amendment will allow the ministry of justice through the state secretary to transfer to the people of ukraine income from seized assets of oligarchs or other sanctioned organizations, this will be a big help for the long suffering people of ukraine it will be a relief for the american taxpayers because billions of dollars

are subject to seizure and transfer and it will be a bad day for the oligarchs i support what my friend senator graham said and i want to thank him for his hard work on this amendment i would also like to note nature blumenthal and senator benet, who played a significant role in helping to create this amendment. and i also want to thank congressman malinovsky. i had a busy week in congress, katya. thank you for your work. thank you. for information, let me remind you that we were contacted by kateryna lisonova, the russian war in ukraine led to the largest migration crisis since the second world war, according to the un, europe has already accepted almost 8 million ukrainian refugees, but due to constant shelling of the energy infrastructure and the threat of a complete blockade, experts warn about a new wave of refugees is possible if the

energy situation worsens. marije ulyanovska researched this topic and found a family that decided to wait out the winter in europe. iryna with her husband, a small daughter and with two dogs, they live 20 kilometers from lviv in the village of suhovolya since the beginning of the war, they stayed at home, even hosted friends from kyiv for several months and did not plan to evacuate abroad, it was very calm here because our village is located west of lviv, respectively here well, very rarely something was flying, we could only see how the anti-aircraft defense was working when we hit the yavoriv training ground , because it is a little north of us, but it is the only one like us. yes, it was directly affected by the war, the situation has changed in recent months since october 10, mass missile attacks on energy infrastructure facilities are taking place in ukraine almost every week, according to yunek ukrenergo, russia has already directed more than a thousand rockets and drones to destroy power plants, millions of ukrainians are regularly

left without electricity and heat when the temperature outside drops below zero. after all, there were only the first shellings, then we could, well, on the days of the shellings, there was no electricity, and then it happened that sometimes it was turned off for 4 hours, and it has been two weeks that's why it started so that at first there was no light for about 12 hours completely, well, without turning it on at all and actually, then i thought that perhaps we should go according to the calculations of not ukrenergo, in order to restore the damaged infrastructure, it will take several hundred million dollars, but if the situation is not corrected, europe will have to pay receiving even more ukrainian refugees and displaced persons, the adviser to the ukrainian minister of energy, olena zerkal, wishes to reflect what is happening now and the blows that our energy system is suffering, aimed at to bleed ukrainian cities and to make them

uninhabitable in ukrainian cities, taking into account urbanization, approximately 20 million people live out of these 20 million people, if they remain in uninhabitable conditions during the winter period. in europe in recent months, iryna's family lived in the living room when there is light, the boiler heats the house, and when there is no electricity , everyone gathers in one room, which is heated by a small house, in addition, due to power outages the internet disappears and iryna, the english teacher, can't normally conduct online lessons. i didn't think about moving, but when it became clear that work becomes difficult and life becomes difficult. when we all had to move into one room because it was impossible not to heat the house i already well, i decided that it would be better for us to

move now with my daughter. well, it's also for the child, well, it's not that bad, of course, she was too young, she likes to play the chorus and everything is fine, but i know that it's difficult for us to provide for her the conditions we would like to have she had when it was simple, well, banal for 8 hours , there is no light, despite the fact that there are blackout schedules, the situation with the light is quite unpredictable, even our conversation with iryna is suddenly cut off oh, maria froze , the electricity must have disappeared, i miss it so much yes yes, a woman is coming with her sister and children for the winter to italy, where her mother has been living for many years. iryna hopes that the move will last for only a few months. she explains to the daughter that they are going to visit her grandmother . of course, i will miss my home, my husband, our kind of way of life, well, we have a sunday ritual when we all bake pancakes together, well, rather, the husband makes the dough with the

little one, and then the husband does not bake, and this is our ritual that started long ago and we tried to keep it all the time, as you say, that is such a thread that connected us with the fact that life goes on and that well, this is only part of what is happening, but here is our life and we must not allow it to be destroyed, according to the information of the state border service of ukraine, until a significant increase in the number of people who they are not going abroad, but if the shelling does not stop, the situation may change if the russians continue to shell ukraine with missiles, it may happen that the equipment will no longer be subject to quick repair. vladimir putin wants to break the will of the ukrainian people. he wants as many ukrainians as possible to be frightened and move to western europe. he wants chaos europe needs a reality lesson, 10-15 million ukrainian refugees will cost europe dearly

, much cheaper now to send leopard tanks, give ukraine and the equipment she asks even if we can send the necessary generators and transformers to ukraine, this is not enough, we have the f16 and f-15 air defense systems and the aircraft that ukraine is asking for . with children already in rome , women hope to return home in the spring maria ulyanovska voice of america meanwhile, the pentagon emphasizes that by shelling the nuclear power plant, russia increases the risk of a nuclear incident and creates a danger not only for ukraine but also for the entire region about the state of ukrainian nuclear power plants and the risks of nuclear war and the consequences of ukrainian nuclear disarmament oleksiy kovalenko talked with the researcher of atomic energy from harvard

university maryana bodzherin and your book was published as a result of the bomb and the collapse of the soviet union and the disarmament of ukraine in the book, you actually describe the process of arming, in your opinion, was it a mistake or could ukraine have done otherwise in the 90s, this question is very, very painful today, considering the fact that there is still a war, that after all, ukraine feels what nuclear threats are and ukraine is not protected by these weapons of deterrence, nuclear deterrence, or its own , or that deterrence. this thought that if only we had these weapons , none of this would have happened, it was a decision of how to enter the international community, and ukraine decided to enter as two good international ector, yes

, the spreader of nuclear weapons is not such a country as, say, libya was at that time and e iraq and is it north korea? that is why it was a question of identity for ukraine. at that time , december 5 was literally the anniversary of the signing of the budapest memorandum. in your opinion, the failure of this historical document for ukraine violates the budapest memorandum. it is obvious that russia also violates the un charter itself . here the question is not so much that this document was not worth anything, but that this document was not so badly drawn up , or that ukraine was naive, no, but that there were simply limited opportunities to achieve something more and today we realize that it will not only

be a persian memorandum, it will also be general, well, all, in fact, all international law, including un documents, which are difficult to implement when someone like this, a country of such size and power as the russian federation, violates them absolutely, completely nullifies these documents and recently you emphasized that the possibility that russia will use tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine is no longer as small as it was before. can you explain this opinion? well, even though the war in ukraine today is a conventional war to me, this is a nuclear crisis, that is, there are very strong nuclear threats from russia, they are constantly announced by putin himself and by other russian officials, to a certain

extent, these nuclear threats have worked, the west is very cautious about supporting ukraine, despite the fact that it still goes. this is military aid, there are no questions about connecting directly or adding any military forces on the territory of ukraine or even closing the sky, let's remember this question was still in march months or the provision of certain types of weapons for sure the range of the same attacks is a that is, each one is a package of military aid, each new system is very carefully considered in terms of how much it will add to the risk of the escalation of this war and, accordingly, the escalation also includes nuclear escalation, and that's why

there are some differences with nuclear threats, we see that putin somehow uses them here, and therefore the more the potential or the possibility that russia will not achieve its goals is exposed military goals by conventional means, the more the risk that it may use nuclear weapons increases, again, this is a small risk, if not i will not outline it in any specific numbers or percentages, what could be the response of the west in the event that putin used nuclear weapons weapons in ukraine, we don't know that for sure , the officials of the white house, they didn't go into the details, yes. that is, we know that there are such statements that the consequences will be catastrophic for russia, they will be very harsh, and it will be a completely different game, yes such words, but

we don't know specific, uh, concrete steps from unofficial persons. we hear that it is possible that this will actually be a conventional, uh, response to, say, for example, russian military targets on the territory of ukraine. yes, it is possible that it could even be the black sea fleet, we see that nuclear deterrence, in fact, it works, it keeps this conflict and the war on the territory of ukraine with two, well, with two participants in this war, the war did not expand in any global sense, this is of course a positive thing, it just turns out that the ukrainians are repaid with their land and their blood , and in this war, on december 6, the dozhdeps emphasized that uninterrupted power supply is critically important for nuclear power plants in ukraine, and in the event that it is not available, a nuclear disaster is possible,

in particular, it is clear that the zaporizhia nuclear power plant is being referred to how great are the risks of such a nuclear disaster in the event of power outages, and this is , in my opinion, an extremely dangerous situation, that is, nuclear power plants are not built, they are not designed to operate in conditions of war, full-scale war, and yes, it is true that each nuclear power plant depends on its safe operation depends on the uninterrupted supply of electricity through high-voltage lines, in addition to all this, there is a constant interruption and loss of electricity, the transition to an emergency supply of electricity on this diesels then back before connecting again. we have seen this not only at zaes, but now it is also happening at three other nuclear power plants, because now everything is

critically under the crosshairs of ukraine's energy system. this is extremely dangerous for the equipment itself for these rectors themselves, for cooling themselves, well, you don’t know the switch in the room that can be turned on and off endlessly, and i understand that it is difficult to predict, but what are the chances of releasing the zaporizhia nuclear power plant without the risks of a nuclear disaster, well, it is really very difficult to predict this big question for the ukrainian parties because it is obvious that the aim is to return this nuclear power plant to ukraine under the control of ukraine physically and operationally in all kinds of ways without in order not to endanger the safe functioning of this plant, not to damage the critical systems on which

this nuclear power plant still depends, and that is why it is a very, very difficult task for the ukrainian side, and that is why the russians obviously know this and use this a nuclear power plant under cover for their military operations, on this day they heard about grady, which allegedly appeared there recently, uh, i'm here , here. it's a difficult situation, but i think i'm like everyone who follows this. i believe in the armed forces, thank you thank you very much mariana. thank you for the interesting interview . thank you. it was a conversation with the atomic energy researcher of harvard university maryana

boujeren. in the center, the concert was organized by the members of the local ukrainian band gerdan, the tickets for the event were sold in a day, and the ukrainian performers on the stage were entrusted and the americans attended the concert, iryna shynkarenko and dmytro melnyk behind the scenes of the final preparations for the christmas concert, the smallest participants are most worried about us, we will dance. such a christmas program that will be like going home for all of us