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only a lot of refugees are running away from the communication of the hungarian government and we still don't understand, on the one hand, they say it is my territorial integrity of ukraine, taras, we worry about ukrainians and hungarians, especially the hungarians of transcarpathia, we help ukraine, we provide humanitarian aid, and you know that it is going because i provided information from transcarpathia, humanitarian aid is constantly coming. as far as i know , it is sent here, not only refugees have accepted hungarians, now our wounded sapper guys are under treatment here exploded, we go there. that is, the ministry of defense accepted it, and on the other hand, we can see from the very beginning of the war that it was unclear to us through communication that we want
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peace . we ask the question why do they say that we are a small country, we are completely dependent on russia for energy, and that is why we have to balance between russia and the european union, you can also call it a swing policy because this swing policy is not the first time in the history of hungary and returning to the fact that this policy will continue this balancing as they say and priorities and if you look at them they first communicate noun support no we don't we won't do it well they themselves at the end support when the european union already says that let's support the same with these the latter,
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too, we will not support the provision of aid to the esc, they have already agreed that they will support, in your opinion, what is the reason for the change in such rhetoric, this is our war, it is not our war, we say well, we understand that it is not your war, but you neighbors to understand that if ukraine, god forbid , falls, the russians will be here. well, rather that there is quite a lot of russian influence here, this influence certainly plays its role. that is, i cannot say that hungary or the hungarian government, even the government , is pro-russian, it is simply not true, they are just like us even it is not clear what the ukrainian community is doing. to convince the hunchback himself, we write petitions, letters, we
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try them. but if the european union is so hard to convince, it is left with the impression that maybe this is some kind of game, maybe this european union keeps to itself i don't understand . that is, i don't see a terrible threat here that they say one thing and then do something completely different. the problem is that part of hungarian society is so far-right from the mass media or something. political scientists, they speak quite negatively about the war and negatively in that they regret but at the same time they say that ukraine is to blame ukrainians surrender even when the war began, i will tell you honestly i managed to achieve on the first channel that two political scientists left there because they simply uh and you ukrainian rhetoric and they left channel one because it is
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state television, they went to private and there they develop this topic that ukraine must uh surrender to russia or russia is great ukraine and that way it will lose as well it affects some hungarian people, but if you look at it in general, then not at all, because everyone opened their doors and only their apartments, and their hearts helped for three weeks, for three weeks, hungarian society contained the influx of refugees, and of course, we do not appreciate it very much this is the attitude of the hungarian people that they provided their apartments for free and let people in there and started all the organizations involved in supporting refugees, they were all like one .
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hungary has territorial claims against ukraine, and i remember that the hungarian government, unlike poland and romania, somehow did not clearly deny this, saying that these statements deepen the military conflict, and instead of such statements, an immediate termination is necessary of fire and peace negotiations, this is the tone of this rhetoric in this message, without denying putin's words, what is it related to, that hungary has any territorial claims against ukraine, or is it to avoid annoying putin, no, this is completely milky. how do you say these things in our country they always declare none, especially since they support ukraine joining the european union , then all the questions of who is where are removed . i remember these words very well, and when we ask, they say well, we have already said this 20 times that
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we do not have why there isn't exactly a boat for the territorial integrity of ukraine, this is their answer, but we would like to hear such clear statements ugu understood, you have already started talking about what they say and show in the mass media about russia's e-war against ukraine, and how would you characterize it, is there a difference first of all, between what is said and shown on state tv channels, state mass media, and in private, well , state television, they cover what the ukrainians say, the second topic is what the russians say, they say it is freedom the words they have to show the other side , independent television, and the tv is below, a political scientist is where we are shooting
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each other right now. two countries are fighting like this, they are not talking about the extermination of the ukrainian people and we cannot tolerate it . there is no such thing as normal. that is, we can say that there is no clear support in the hungarian media for any of the parties of the ukrainian crowd if there is no russia that can afford a lot of things in the direction of ukraine, but the opinion of some part of the society is formed by these bot farms, which
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are very many in hungary. is this russian or about vlad and hungarian ? they invest for posts, you don’t know, we just, even before the war, i threw the embassy of ukraine in hungary more than once, look what it is, already then the anti-ukrainian rhetoric began in these photo farms on these mass media, someone was they have developed so much that they began to turn some part of society against ukraine, but in such a tone that the ukrainians told you to surrender, america is right that russia attacked america led ukraine to this war, and that’s where the russian narratives go, but we we are waging a war, we are quite clearly waging a war against this robot because we see that
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it can turn society against even refugees, and the hungarian government is somehow fighting these bot farms or not, it handed over 10 to the hungarian government and they said that these bot farms are being closed the ministry of foreign affairs of hungary was told that if you can do it, it will be closed, to which one person replied that we will close it in a week. a second one appeared, what did he mean by that, that it is not hungary that is behind these ferbs, but the contributors are 70-80% it is to be and the rest people come there who are bored and they see and comment and it spreads and that is why you can say they wanted to change hungarian society so that it became and accepted russian narratives but thank god talking to the mountaineers i see that they did not succeed and they
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disappearing slowly, it was not possible because now there is an economic crisis in hungary and the hungarians are busy with the fact that when they are commented on and told that the whole crisis is because of ukraine because of the war. there are, in particular, hungary about whether support for ukraine should be limited, and 51% of hungarians who stopped said that it should be limited. and only 27% were in favor of continuing it . do you not think that these bot farms are so? in general, this russian propaganda machine quite successfully copes with its task of setting up against ukraine, you know, but if you look at what happened in
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hungary when we had, i don’t know where, up to 40 demonstrations and you hungarians went with us, and the marginals turned out to be 100 to one during that time the same hour. that is, it shows that there are no such large demonstrations for russia as in other countries, it is also important to say that those who supported and continue to support ukraine came to us. one thing i know for sure is that the hungarians, they are a part of the hungarians, they would like this war to end soon, they are not even interested in how much this war will end, you understand, but for it to end and that 's why they... to support ukraine eh in eh when hungary said that it would not give weapons
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we asked and why don't you give weapons then we are the driver here hungary itself is not eh that is when our children come and thank hungary the hungarian parliament transcarpathia then we see exactly that in this country the most important thing for us is that the russian narrative did not succeed in creating anti-ukrainian sentiments, this is very important. well, i would like to talk more about ukrainian refugees. you said that hungary was quite, well, hungarian society was quite happy to accept ukrainian refugees . when they were fleeing from the war to find shelter, the hungarian government took the communication of the government, they said that they were wrong through hungary, one and a half million more people came to hungary, it passed through hungary
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yes, but many people went, and then we were surprised. kyiv, 1.5 million and a half million passed, maybe through hungary, some went through sakul, through chop, and the second through romania to poland, and we saw at the beginning that everyone who stayed for 3-4 days, they we went further to the west, the language is difficult for the family there. after all, everyone left. those who had somewhere to hide, well, those left first of all, but those who stayed here with their children , first of all, women, older women, younger ones, or parents with many children, we see here men who have three children, too. we here we meet, they stayed in hungary somewhere . who received temporary shelter somewhere around forty thousand, that is, you did not hear that someone asked or refused the second one, even to hungary, and we helped it, it was still
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in the summer, so that from september our students went to study in higher educational institutions, this is the program of the ministry of foreign affairs of hungary to provide a scholarship, and they asked us to gather refugees, young refugees, and told them in what language the scholarship is given, that they give a place of residence, and out of a thousand offered scholarships, they accepted only 100, which means that either they did not want to or they there is no, for example, there is allocated uh, well, it is very little from 22,000 forints of assistance, how much in hryvnias or in euros, so that we understand this is help for those who received a temporary example of medical insurance uh, in the school of education and
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this is monitored, because when even there was something someone was not admitted to the hospital there, then there is a place where you can roast it, uh, what was not accepted, that is, regarding the refugees. well, the mood and communication are normal here. and you can say that hm, even the mayor of budapest herself called me, well, in march , the fight is nothing to help, and the dead to what us with the assistance of the mayor of budapest, at my request , that the children who went to school on our sundays and saturdays have a whole day of time so that they receive free lunches, plus our community, the ukrainian community in hungary strongly came to support us, a center for helping refugees of ukraine's aid was created, our whole community about united around plus public organizations and from medicines that we supplied to
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ukraine from first aid, because when a refugee came to hungary, he came to this center, it is not far from the opera. it is in the center, he told him that we should have written to him, ask for a request, and maybe a day or maybe a couple of hours later, he could come and take first aid. there, you can get where you can register, where is the school, all the information, the most important thing is that we see children who have registered from school. in hungarian, they need help, so now our community is dealing with it accordingly, for example, we want to open a help center in the ninth district, it will only be for children who are in our district, where i live, the idea is that it should be in hungarian , to learn it, and to help people with it. we not we want them to be interested, if they
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have to return to ukraine, the most important thing is that ukraine must fight for its ukrainians, the war will end, does anyone want to stay, then we will integrate them, but we are trying to tell the ukrainians what they see. and now they are beginning to understand what ukraine means for them, of course for us there is a problem, it is more russian-speaking ukrainians, not with them, it is not so easy to find a common language, but we do it, and what is interesting is that these refugees listen to us , what do you understand in the ukrainian community, please speak ukrainian in honor of your children ukrainian, many ukrainians study hungarian i mean refugees because we know that without knowledge of the hungarian language, well, this basically applies to all countries of the european union without knowledge of the national language, it is very difficult to find a job, so are ukrainians actively learning the hungarian language for in order to find
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a job and is it easy to find such a job where you don't need to know god, i am very proud of your help, this is the first question, is it possible to help us find a job, and then we helped here too many foreign factories where working hungarians left half a million hungarians went abroad to work for the labor force here there was a lack of labor before the war there were already 80,000 workers here and of course all these factories began to attract, first of all, knowledge of the language and also to the factory and ukrainians go to these factories. but are they supposed to bring here families who worked before that , that is, you can find a job even without knowing the language, but it will be a job. well, i said no, not an engineer there, you need to know the language, not the teacher
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, etc. and so on. so on and when we say what our children need the help of a psychologist in hungarian schools, even 13 1/2 thousand e-e children who were supposed to go to hungarian school from september and their obligations, the law obliged parents and you to school, there were even such rumors that if he does not enroll the child, he says to school means you will have to pay a fine, but it is not very difficult for the children, it is a difficult language to learn, and we ask that these children need a psychologist because they understand the language, they do not know how to adapt, and the psychologist can only be in ukraine, so he needs to create a workplace there, there are many of those 13.5 thousand children you said were supposed to go to hungarian school, did many not go to school,
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it’s just that the child who finishes the 9th-10th grade doesn’t have any center to go to hungarian school, but there are also those who go to english school more. if can they be accepted there or german schools, that is, there are everywhere ours, most of them returned. in the summer , we see that in our schools, they returned to ukraine, yes, for example, in western western europe , where there is more social assistance. of course, there is something to improve in this, but we do not see because in these people would turn to us with help, in general, for more than nine months, the full-scale invasion of russia in ukraine has been going on, and that ukrainian women with
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children and men, well, ukrainian citizens, fleeing the war, came to hungary to escape the war. and what is it like? well, what can i say, we survived the maidan when, after the orange revolution, we were greeted as heroes, you understand the heroes, the ones who live here . budapest through the streets with torches, this war was incomprehensible to the hungarians at first, they understood the war only because of that time, because of the poor people, those people knew that they came to a foreign country, they did not have problems with them, they opened their houses, that is, sometime during the summer, that the
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ukrainians did not come to live here they just want to work if they can, uh, those ukrainians are very normal people. well, of course, they ask why they speak russian, how are they from ukraine, then we have to explain, and we say that this is our history, that east central ukraine was under it was similar to russia 300 years ago, then they began to understand, and it was positive, yes, it changed the opinion about ukrainians, but this opinion was already changed by our wage earners, those who came after the maidan in this well, probably somewhere in the 16th year, when the first wage earners started, too i have never been a ukrainian worker. they started longer. this is a hardworking people and a part of society. how do they say that they take off their hats in front of the ukrainian people. we would not be able to
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do such a thing. what is ukraine doing so that there is no light, no gas, no water in the dark, and children in their arms? under bombs and this state stands and this people endures, that is, for many hungarians, those who are healthy think that ukrainians have become some kind of hero, so others listen to this propaganda of these bots and far-right snakes , of course they think that in my word i see what they are now fell silent because no one expected that there would be such great opposition from ukraine and that society would be so consolidated in order to win this battle of two civilizations on the one hand, but ukrainians are fighting for survival, look what is being done, the army is only going to the army, when they bomb civilians,
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houses kill people, bucha already knows it all here, and it is starting to dawn on the hungarians that this war is not just like them. as some say that america provoked to finish off russia, and the ukrainians are only using them, they are beginning to understand that this people must fight for their survival, and no one like this general vanya should do it, and i wanted to ask , winter is already underway in ukraine, without exaggeration, an energy crisis due to massive missile attacks on the energy infrastructure of ukraine and many people, many ukrainians, will also have to leave ukraine in order not to freeze in their homes, so that you may advise those who will go to hungary, some even talk about the second
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wave of refugees in the winter. and what should they know and remember when they come to hungary in order to be able to easily adapt and integrate into society, honest, short , hardy, the second wave of refugees, i don't think it will be from winter, god forbid, it will be like this on the fronts, what i see is the endurance of ukrainians, if they still have decided that they will temporarily leave ukraine, i would offer them, and i am ready for them to come to the country. they must be prepared that in a shocked society they must gradually adapt, that is,
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such big claims cannot be made in a shocked society, because they have provoked a backlash, but they must know that there is a ukrainian community here, that they can turn to us, that we help and will help as we are doing now, because the war is going on in our country, we, well, every week, someone sends something to ukraine , and now, for example, our action, and we know that there are many children who have been left orphans, and we decided that this children and children whose large families whose fathers or mothers died in the war help er for christmas we collect funds even for us and ukraine helps there ternopil made such beautiful calendars for us in ukrainian clothing ukrainian outfits and this is not the calendar you have here by
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with his back under the wall on the couch no, it's him, yes, it's my land, waiting for mrs. olya, who lives in no, it was her idea, and they supply us with these calendars, we sell them, and that's how we collect funds for this campaign. now we have more than a million funds that have been collected because we want not only to transfer these funds to these families, but also to invite these children here next year so that they feel warmth, so that they feel that their parents died like this they lost them, but the memory of their parents lives on not only in their hearts a and b us ukrainians abroad and we are raising our children we want to teach our people with this action it is better to be charitable to give uh than to give some kind of
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warmth because we already did an action in dnipro this year when the donations of ukrainians were handed over in the opera house theater with all the families with many children who died in donbas then and to raise our children and our grandchildren to raise that in ukraine we have to stand for ukraine, ukraine is fighting and we are here, you help in another way it will not work, you do not know how long the war will last so that people are you not tired, you know, they would say, well, red fat , this is us, what do you get used to, you can’t get used to the tragedy, the murders during the day , and we have to fight and stand against it, that’s why we go out, that’s why we tell our children and prepare them that we need to help ukraine thank you
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for your work for what you have been doing in hungary for many years, thank you very much, thank you for this communication. glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, glory to a hundred steel wills and character tempered in the sacred fire. this is my story, cool sweat and hot tears. the heart that remains alive for the soul that the free history of my earth was born where the new destiny of an indomitable country is being forged metal in my hands and in the bodies of my enemies in the voice that promises us victory together we make this world stronger ukrainians a nation of steel people each embroidered piece a symbol
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of indomitability and rebirth of ukraine we will heal our let's decorate the scars with flowers, the ukrainian destiny will bloom again like poppies from the will ukraine will embroider the renaissance strong unbreakable free for christmas one wish victory as if from a long power outage prepare for yourself and loved ones supplies of potable technical water warm clothes food charged batteries find out in advance and save the contacts of medical institutions and addresses of emergency services from official websites or reference services and the administration of your locality prepare already for
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