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we went to the bank of the river and took up positions there. we saw the river and the enemy in front of us. but what kind of enemy was there and he made his presence known by firing? next to our positions, they are almost empty. olena admits that there was no fear then, but she felt a huge responsibility to her brothers when you actually go to zero for the first time. understands that the right to make a mistake well, there is simply no well, despite the fact that we had well, not the positions from which the assault begins, to be honest
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, absolutely not only we had the actual position from which they are observed, that is, the task of observing is to report and, if possible, not to show yourself. that is, you you sit at night in absolute silence in the dark and with a thermal imager and watch that coast if something happened to warn the own headquarters of elena together with her comrades did not conduct assault actions but advanced with all the brigades and took positions with the help of her unit under the majors the ukrainian flag on the russian-ukrainian border from the kharkiv region olena in principle , it is joyful, although in fact i understand that they came, well, we have no merit here, they performed their share of tasks, they performed them well, but this, well, this is joy because this is another liberated area, they are already here no
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, he remains in his positions but after the victory, he aims to travel the world khrystyna parubiy , espresso tv channel, thank you khrystyna parubiy for this interesting story about ukrainian women, they can cook borscht, they can be a shooter, they can work as a sniper or something he just says yes, we want jello for the evening, we can’t get jello tomorrow well, for now , the morning continues with us, the informational and analytical morning is the biggest . галку this is our colleague, a journalist from the public sector . unfortunately, the topic is not fun with him. nikita. we welcome you . good morning. good afternoon. well, i'll tell you the background story.
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released from custody the fourth person accused of the murder of a five-year-old boy , kyril tlyauv, which happened back in may of 19, the murder was called ex -policeman ivan prykhodko. sat and he was assigned to a 24-hour house arrest with obligations, and they didn't even put a bracelet on him accordingly, well, you know how all these house arrestees are put on to control their movement, these bracelets were not found in the system of the ministry of internal affairs, they all broke although they cost a lot of money there, the system is transparent - it's a scandal, others already talked about it a few years ago, avakov was the minister of internal affairs. and the most interesting thing is that this ivan prykhodko, this ex-policeman, he was active at the time of the murder. this seems to be the grandmother , by the way, of the late kirill tlyov who
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was killed. she categorically opposed the release of this ivan prykhodko in court, so ivan prykhodko also sentenced the european court of human rights to more than €9,000. to the state of ukraine for delaying the case as well as for the inhumane conditions of detention in our pre-trial detention center all of you will pay this person who objectively he is the main suspect in the murder of the five-year-old boy nikita galka was at this court, he was following this story . please , your emotions and some details that i didn’t voice. do you know them, please? well, actually, i’ll start by focusing on the fact that ivan prykhodko was actually released under 24-hour house arrest actually because of the decision of the european the court of human rights eh the fact is that the ukrainian court according to the
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legislation since we ratified kharkiv as a european country in terms of human rights we cannot fail to comply with the decision of the european court of human rights so if the european court of human rights sees that three years ivan prykhodko is in custody in improper conditions and such a term of detention without a sentence is too long if the european court sees this as a certain violation. ukrainian legislation and ukrainian prosecutors and the court must implement the corresponding decision, that is why ivan prykhodko uh, actually he ended up under house arrest. i also want to draw attention to the fact that the case has really been going on for more than three years, and the culprit has not yet been named in this case, and the prosecutor's office of the prosecution believes that ivan prykhodko is the main accused in in this case, so to speak, ivan prykhodko is exactly the person who fired that
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fatal shot, although there are four defendants in the case in total, and none of them have been proven so far. i also want to note one such interesting point about which you mentioned about the bracelets a-a, which should also monitor the stay of ivan prykhodko under house arrest, indeed these bracelets were either not found or something was wrong with them, they are in an inappropriate condition, but the court and this directly the judge stated during the session that the bracelet will not be assigned because the fact that there are none, in general, this is such a case. we have been following it for more than three years, and it is quite indicative for the ukrainian law enforcement system, for the penal system, for the judicial system itself, because through the book a series such factors reveal the imperfection of the system, that is, a person in ukraine cannot be assigned a certain measure of preventive measure due to the fact that, for example, there is no bracelet
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. what was the movement of the bullet so that it hit the child's head and death actually occurred, and because of what and who, that is, these examinations must give answers to certain questions, how did this bullet fly, whether there was a ricochet or not, because there in fact, the case is not as simple as it might seem at first glance, and this examination, which the court ordered to be done a year ago, it seems that one year and four days have already passed since the decision of the pereyaslav court, so far in a year, we have not received the results of this examination, that is the meeting is taking place, the detention on this charge continues, and the relevant ukrainian expert institutions cannot actually give the results of this examination, although it was, as far as i know, carried out in the summer , that is, there are no results for more than six months
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already after the conduct, we understand that there are certain aspects related to the russian invasion , we understand that there is a certain difficulty with the fact that the light turns off and so on, but the court is waiting for a year for the results of the examination and they are not there, and there is one more interesting point that i want to note for the audience and explain ivan prykhodko and volodymyr petrovets, two of the four defendants are former policemen, the pereyaslavskyi court, and at the request of the prosecutor, decides to put one under house arrest, round-the-clock house arrest of ex-policemen according to the law, 24-hour house arrest of this ex- policeman of the accused must also be monitored by the police body, this is written in the legislation, that is, they can come at any time of the day or night without warning and check whether this accused is really at home or he
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he didn't go anywhere for a walk to go to another city suddenly he left the country or is he not hiding , that is, this body should come and check i put the prosecutor after the court decision the question is whether he does not see a certain conflict of interest in the fact that the former policeman will be in custody, forgive me, you will be under 24-hour house arrest, and at the same time, possibly his former subordinates from this pereyaslav police station , his former colleagues in the service, and so on they should check whether there is any conflict of interest here. well, the prosecutor assured me that there are no risks of this conflict of interest. there are none and he does not see them, although there are great doubts about this because, uh every time i come to a court hearing, i see ivan prykhodko in a certain way, if he has the opportunity and he himself is present at the court hearing, and
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volodymyr petrovets and the other accused communicate before the hearing with representatives of the court security police. that is, this takes place near the er directly near the courtroom or directly near the court premises er, that is, there are many questions and there are many risks and how it will actually be er and er specifically in this case, will the law enforcement agencies really be honest to monitor the execution of this court decision and whether there will be any risks, we will see. but in some doubt, the risks are real. in my opinion, we may have raised this issue with the prosecutor as a charge for such risks . in the 21st year, do you remember there was an action under the walls of the president's office, and there they defaced these walls, then they were carried along the canals, the windows were broken , then six suspects, among whom was the hero of ukraine, roman ratushny, who died on
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at the front in june of this year in the kharkiv region and serhiy filimonov, a person who went to the front, ate them. they were put under house arrest in za and suspected of painting walls and breaking windows. the suspects put bracelets on them, and i was just personally at roman 's at that time. at home and in my presence, the police came and checked three times a day to see if he was sitting there. and for the person who is suspected of murdering a five-year-old child, the bracelet was not found, just because of the half-measure of window crimes. all presidents and murder there is no person here, there is no bracelet, there is no everything is broken, this is the justice of the ukrainian court. how are you following this story from the very beginning, you say. new no, this is what you are following. what are your predictions. how will this case end ? four men were drinking. two of them were
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police officers. they killed a five-year-old child. well, she was in the yard. he was in the pre-trial detention center, only this one was in the pre-trial detention center ivan as his prykhodko so who will be responsible for this and will it be the end of this story, in your opinion, or is it just like that? the prosecutor is er and probably not fully authorized to have. i don’t have all the completeness of information in order to predict something, but i can definitely say that i, personally, and our public relations team will continue to follow this case precisely because of the whirlwind of these events of these including news of the military, this matter, in particular, can be lost, and in order for it not to be lost , in particular, our team sets the following goal : to follow this case, to introduce it , to cover it, to talk about it on the air,
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on tv channels, to colleagues, to write about it, because this case is is important, it is demonstrative, and i will say for sure that, in any case, this case has already become, let's say, very revealing in many aspects, there are many points, there are many such segments, where it became clear in why this system is imperfect in fact, i will say that for now, without examinations, without the results of the examination, it is really difficult to say exactly who of the four killed, that is, the lawyer, in particular, ivan prykhodka - this is viktor chebus. he insists that a prove to the prosecution that he says that and prove which of the four fired that shot because, well, one bullet, one bullet, one so , one of the four killed this child, uh, who is it, the investigation should actually establish. i really want to believe that in this in the case for
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more than three years, such a person will be found guilty what can't a child just like that in the middle of the day dying from a bullet in the head someone has to shoot this shot and the investigation has to find the culprit in this case but so far from what i observe ah hm obviously the prosecution lacks such a number incontrovertible evidence so that the judge could come out and er-er impose a sentence. i can already definitely say that this case has passed its er-er its such equator and it is coming to an end and i think and i want to believe that such a culprit will be found a-a and who it will be, we will 100% be about it we will report, we will follow this up nikit. and please tell me how he agreed in court , how is prykhodko behaving, the main suspect, a former employee of the ministry of internal affairs, who sentenced the state of ukraine to the state of ukraine for more than €9,000, where perhaps he said that he
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would give this money there to the family of the deceased kirill, who was killed by him or his friends will he transfer this money to the needs of the armed forces of ukraine or to other charitable causes? how did he even say anything about this in court, or will he buy a new car, for example, here, by the way, is interesting because $9,000 is more than $9,000. this is for our viewers, i will translate in the equivalent if according to the official rate of the nbu - it is uah 1,000. that is the amount that the state should compensate ivano. well, please, more, i'm saying almost for this amount, the state should compensate ivana prohodko. speaking of that as he communicates with journalists and the press, none of the accused in principle communicates with the press at all. when i came to this meeting and asked to comment on the decision of the pereyaslav court, i was told that i was a liar. society is constantly lying, as are all
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the journalists who cover this case, and he will not comment on anything until, finally, after the verdict is announced, well, in our country, this is the position, not only of ivan prykhodko and everyone else, and they lead myself at the hearing well, i would say quite defiantly, uh. since we have been conducting this case for more than three years, i can say that at certain points i even quite defiantly agreed to this accusation at various court hearings, and even then the grandmother sometimes calmed down these defendants, although in in general, i will say that they simply do not communicate with the press. this is probably their position, perhaps the position of their defenders, the lawyer, is quite open, they communicate, and they are ready to comment on something, and the accused themselves refuse to do so. and what is an interesting point about the money and the compensation that could yes, should you offer the grandmother an indictment? again , i want to emphasize the fact that they are accused and not guilty, that is, according to the court's decision, we cannot call any of them guilty
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yet, because the indictment has not proven them, that is, so far say what no one of them is a specific murderer, but at the beginning of this case, the defendants offered a certain monetary compensation for oleksandra’s grandmother, because of what happened, and the grandmother actually refused this money categorically, just as her whole family would have refused, so i think that for sure there will be no such offer again, well , i took the statement from the police, as far as i remember , they offered such an amount, well, it was quite official and quite publicly stated about it, and they offered this money, it seems that they were supposed to go to certain expenses related to funeral, but then the grandmother and her family categorically refused this money nikita, and how do they each have their own line of defense, is it common, and what do they
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say, how do they justify themselves, on what basis do they build their defense, and their line of defense is actually the accused everyone has a lawyer, except prykhodko. prykhodko, if there is money, lawyers, eh, maybe i won't assert anything here, i'm just saying the facts, eh, prykhodko has two lawyers, the other accused have a lawyer, eh, their defense position is what i'm saying: what do the lawyers say please prove to the prosecutors that someone from the four defendants killed that i am a bullet and so far. here is the answer. so far there is no answer to this question. they claim and believe that no one was not a murderer in this case. but at the same time , these lawyers emphasize that there really should have been hooliganism, that is, the lawyers do not deny the fact that the shooting on that day in 2019 by two
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law enforcement officers in pereyaslav, in particular, took place, but they all categorically deny the murder . and even i will say that at the meeting when they testified directly, when at the hearing the accused themselves testified, their position of defense was like this, they simply said that they did not remember, did not know, and the most important thing was the weapon from which they shot and allegedly killed the child . there is no physical evidence in this case and all the accused said that they did not know. they put this weapon somewhere and left . it somehow disappeared, that is, no one knows where it went. unfortunately, the investigation will establish either some remains of this weapon or in general, find this weapon, that is, they simply hid this weapon and they don’t even say where it is, let’s be honest, the former policeman killed the child, suspected the suspect, killed the car and hid the weapon , there is no court decision, now prove that it is me well, this is a good
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position, such an ex- the policeman is like this well, the public position is that i am generally surprised that he is not being tried for hooliganism, fear nikita , well, hooliganism was yes, i killed a child because of a hooligan and now prove that i am more than a hooligan, and there i will point out that they are incriminating hooliganism there is an incrimination. he thinks hooliganism is the storage of weapons that were found during the search. by the way, in the film, the investigation . but it was definitely not at pryhodko that such a powerful weapon was even found, er, what the people call it there, well, conventionally, a bazooka. that is, yes , a tube with a rocket. and even why it is charged or not, i don’t know. well, even a manual one on mine. i think that it's more incredible
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the grenade launcher just doesn't say this , i can't identify exactly what it was, but prykhodko in particular is being charged with this as well as with some other accusations, but uh, he's murder and from uh, to take the blame, come on categorically at the last the meeting refused the procedure, even his words. he said that i did not kill the child, i can serve two, three, five or seven years. as long as it takes, but there is no need to put the child's soul on me, i will not take it on myself. thank you you are a public journalist, well, thank you for following this person, we will also follow this, because really, if journalists are not at the court session, we would not know and would not have this information, it would have passed so quietly and the topic is important. well, it is necessary
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to prove who out of those four policemen, two policemen and two remaining men actually fired the bullet that, by such a terrible coincidence, killed a child in the neighboring yard, but the fact that they were drinking and shooting afterwards. this is also considered by many to be the norm and continues now, so this case is quite demonstrative well, what's more, she just turned our entire judicial and law enforcement system upside down and showed all the uh, all the gaps that are there that you and i need to patch. years or 6 years and this is the end of the reform, please , we can see it with our own eyes. well, because it is the same as everywhere, you know. it cannot be that someone somewhere is doing a reform, some lawyers are there, some reformers are there, and here we want to solve and ball and pay well, it doesn't happen like that, it doesn't happen like that because the rules, if we want a normal society, and then these rules limit us somewhere, and in the framework of this,
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we have to be ready for the whole society and follow the same way as nikita's trips to that court, he really wants to go to that court, but he went constantly monitors and highlights and all the people are waiting for more to be interested. what is wrong with us with that reform in the courts, do you remember how many judges were appointed back then? and those who resigned, they also squeezed out compensation there. crazy compensation. millions of hryvnias of ours and you were paid for seemingly illegal dismissal well, i will once again quote kirill tlyauva's grandmother oleksandr klyava about whom nikita told, she said the following in response to the decision to release ivan prykhodko, the main accused as a police officer who is suspected of murdering kirill, she said yes, they will make him a piece of paper that he will work question mark he will walk by me every day this is ivan coming prykhodko question mark the boy's father is standing under the bahmut now with a machine gun if he finds out he will come here on foot well, how at this stage to release under house arrest, yes, a
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question mark, i object, they said oleksandr sharply, but he didn’t listen to the point, these are likely words, this is what we are talking about when a person is simply conscious, adequate, and unfortunately, the same ones are now under the wing there with er, with weapons and then such a person as these people who were drinking there shot, then they will use the profits that our defenders are now winning for us, such a life well, we can influence it with you, because at least we will try to deal with it stepan berko if i correctly named the lawyer the advocacy manager of the de jure foundation, this foundation is also engaged in anti-corruption activities, now let's talk about it all stepan, we congratulate you good afternoon good morning i don't know if you will react to this story is this your profile but the high-profile case of the murder of kirill klyav, which has been going on for three years for half a year, the court cannot, well, the trial lasts less. but for those one and
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a half years, we cannot find out who exactly killed a five-year-old child in the small town of pereyaslav. your reaction is, unfortunately, an unfamiliar matter. but such a general the comment is because the investigation of crimes is primarily the responsibility of the judiciary, not even the investigation of the adoption of a final decision, but the quality of the investigation and the quality of the prosecutor's office also play a big role here. unfortunately, even if we now manage to take quality steps and to the reform of the judiciary means the reform of the prosecutor's office and the reform of the investigative bodies . and there is still a lot of work to be done, and this will probably not be the only case where there is supposedly a public demand for a quick, fair decision, but due to incapacity and sometimes the influence of some investigation bodies, the
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society will not see such cases for more than 3 years, no examinations have been conducted, that speaks for itself, stepan. e ksu from the ksu, taking into account the recommendations of the venice commission, what is the main story there, what does it mean, what is waiting, or should we have already submitted them and done, then we should have adopted the law in the version that corresponds to the recommendations of the pension unfortunately for the commission, the parliament was a little cunning because it considered these recommendations as it wanted to read them to the deputies, the president quickly signed the law even after the russian commission issued a clarifying opinion in which they emphasized the two things that need to be changed, namely two problems that is now in the bill that was passed that has already entered into force, this is what is
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supposed to be an independent commission that will check candidates for the constitutional court, which decisions are optional, that is, appointing subjects can appoint in of the constitutional court of persons whom this commission recognized as not meeting the requirements of the law. this is the first. and the second is that the composition of this commission is politically dependent, because half of this composition is appointed by political subjects, which means that they can block any decision in this commissions. actually, they are the tsitsik commission demanding to be released. put before ukraine e-e as a requirement to preserve the status of a candidate, there are members, this means that the ukrainian government will be faced with a choice, or pretend that it
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is ok after all, or receive a negative assessment from the european commission as a result, or make changes to the law after all. and to adopt it in such versions that will ensure politically and politically neutral independence, the procedure for selecting judges of the constitutional court, and finally the constitutional court of mr. stepano, independent of the political authorities. well, correct me, everything seems to be there the recommendation as a seven-person commission seems well, correct me and the europeans recommend adding one more person who would not be a ukrainian citizen or ukrainian but represented international structures and it all rested on just one member of the commission, in principle, how closed is it ? strangers are not allowed in. i correctly understand that the whole issue rested on one person, they rule a little easily now, the law stipulates that the commission consists of six people, three appointed by the president, the parliament, and the congress
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of judges and three persons - these are international independent experts, one appointed from the russian commission and two by international partners of ukraine who support reforms in the sphere of the rule of law and justice. and actually the sentencing commission emphasized that such a composition it actually has. well, it will repeat the previous negative experience with as a special head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office when they could not make a decision for years due to the fact that political representatives in this commission simply blocked 50%. and now i want the seventh to be added so that there are international ones on one more and they could correctly understand that a citizen of ukraine may simply be recommended by non-political players , i.e. international partners of ukraine, and he will mix cards like that, about 100 will break the majority, stepan. please tell me , this is such a coincidence. how did it happen that
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the president signed this law it turns out that this is a disservice to the entire ukrainian people, who are already candidates for the european union. but this will be a significant and significant barrier . along the way, the integration of the european union tried to filter through draft laws and laws that it passed as requirements of the european union, what we were with the laws on the higher anti-corruption court, which was one of the requirements of visa liberalization and other draft laws that related to the national anti-corruption bureau, that is, formally, as if to pass a law, but on at the technical level, to come up with some things that will allow us to save the flights, to be recognized by those institutions that were supposedly supposed to be independent , this situation now is absolutely nothing differs previous to

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