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also, i have no doubts about the bahmut, here is the information that the ukrainian forces have probably achieved tactical success to the east and south of the bahmut over the last 72 hours, can you confirm this, maybe you can explain in more detail what ways and prospects this opens up for us and colleagues, i can only hold my fists , pray and report to the armed forces while in tbilisi. they are fighting there, this information is carefully confirmed. thank you, mr. volodymyr , volodymyr kopchak, military expert, head of the south caucasian branch of the center for evaluation of
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conversion and disarmament in tbilisi. let's all try to understand what vladimir putin wants now. what does he want? and by the way, i want to start our conversation with today's interview of the president . the french republic emmanuel macron gave three editions to the french edition a lemon to the american edition and joked to the lebanese leading edition and in this interview he says that ukraine should receive a security guarantee, but at the same time it cannot join nato with russia, which is now i often say that i have lost logic. because if russia threatens ukraine, ukraine can not be accepted into nato. why then is ukraine accepted into nato if there is a russia that does not threaten it ? here is the logic of the development of events. security guarantees for ukraine, alas, we
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understand macron's logic and, first of all, he wants to provoke moscow, don't look at the fact that moscow is waging an aggression against ukraine. thank god that he said that ukraine needs a real punisher. it's good, but she will read too much i pay a lot of attention to you. and with the russian aggressor, this is definitely a problem for him . you can do what you want. in this situation, in principle . look at president balin better
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understand the situation than macron, but still, the understanding of the administration is not enough, well, if the fight america behaved like the leader of nato, then macron's opinion was not important, bain said during zelensky's visit that yes, we are it is impossible for you to the end that ukraine lost this war , but he also said that ukraine should win, and unfortunately, i would say that i am from this logic, and banin said that we do not give all the military equipment that
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ukraine is asking for. and this because he is himself не готов сейчас американский интересы об украинский победы это тоже проблема mr. john here is just about the visit in the words of joseph bytna, she wanted to ask you why, on the one hand, such moral support, we will be with you until the end, and on the other hand, we will not give you the technique and the argument we we don't want to escalate. and where can we go further? well, there's only a nuclear war. the second one is probably already all that the russians could have used. that's a ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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russia has an opportunity for ukraine, so they are giving you a lot of help so that you can prepay for this opportunity. well, it seems to me and i believe that his team does not look at this question logically. they think that this is a war. then ukraine and russia must take the prikarbors to these compromises, they took this stupka to achieve peace, but such an understanding, in my opinion, is not understood in putin's domain, he did not look at what he
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i'm ready to speak today and do it today, too , this logic beats everything, and some kind of gift for the aggressor, and certainly this is not good, not for ukraine, not for the world and for america. let 's think so. patriot etogo takoy bluff, or he really is not very worried about the appearance of new american weapons in kiev . as novels, the blow of their politicians in ukraine because
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if they understand that we give coal everything that is needed, he wants to be confused and win for him, his regime is a nightmare, as well as what biden said after the meeting with the greens that he is ready to talk to putin in principle if russia will be in the mood for peace negotiations, as you can see, on the one hand, russia is shelling very fiercely every day, and the peaceful population of ukraine is hitting critical infrastructure, on the other hand, and putin does not completely break any such ties the grain in the grain agreement, and my analysis of the grain agreement is that putin went to it because uh, he needs ron irdovan
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очень этот тел. putin is still not ready to admit that it is necessary for the peace, and it would be a price. i think that if putin said that he is ready now, er, for a cease-fire, a-namely , everything from each side, because this is a--and it can be a temptation for a woman, it can be a bathhouse , i will take it, because i know how willing putin is to conduct real negotiations when he is not ready for a real one. tell me here is what you think
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this is the idea itself. yes, the war should end at the negotiating table. well, how realistic is it? well, almost all wars are turned around at the negotiating table, but the point is, what is the situation on the battlefield ? %. ukraine and we know that if the battle we sent you all the military friction that you are asking for, you took it back almost and everything can be all this territory and it is my view that it is a weakness and the weather of the
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administration is bad that they are not ready to work precisely for this series yes and a-a regarding another speech of volodymyr zelensky in the congress and him, in principle, from all the reactions that we saw the international experts of the political establishment and america and ukraine and world european leaders still recognized what was zelensky's speech very strong and how has the attitude towards him changed since the russian federation's full-scale invasion of our territory? how do you assess this visit in general? really pay more attention to consider a-a full-fledged a-a sorry, i forget the russian , then i consider zelensky’s visit a gift from god
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and the upcoming victory of ukraine, and it seems to me that as a result of this visit a-a the relationship between the rich man and zelensky is better a-a or a weak belief how about zelensky a-a there is more in the congress and zelensky too a-a well, they are quite right on everything anyway a-a still a pot he turned to the congress for all his ego simply or even more or another gun and that’s good a and in general zelensky supported
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ukraine's position in america and that's why the reaction in mozgy was so negative and sonny, they realized that it's not yet between kyiv and washington , and they became better as a result. it is very much addressed to you and the current convention that the most important thing is the next congress, which will be controlled by the republicans and will be ready for the same amount of aid to ukraine оношеннии с конгорсом and i mean how to introduce war and congress tomorrow but there is a faction
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in the republican party that understands american interests a-a pobede ukrainy o-o-o good thing the faction is weaker today than before our elections a-a in september and in november, they can influence the chorus of politicians in the house of representatives, but they have so much power to change the support of the ukrainian congress. thank you very much. thank you. in we are in touch and we are continuing all these international topics now in a conversation with a russian sociologist and a political expert and playing a medman hello, good evening, congratulations. well
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, let 's start with the history of the expansion of the russian army with all these performances putin to the colleagues of the ministry of defense in front of the directors of military aid enterprises, and they say that tula and the urals were fighting for this performance, in fact , all activity is devoted to the war, even the ambassadors of the federal assembly , where did that come from? in general, the incredible activity of putin, well , in all directions. well, i would briefly say to him, just some beer, the alternative is a payment, he perfectly understands that if you lose this war , he will lead him there. the power does not most likely the weather does not live if they stop and he understands that the court knows that he has not run away, he understands that the only
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chance for him is what a potential one is such a well- known ancient maxim, yes, winners are not judged if you win in that and in the card they carry it like this. he roughly argues that he therefore needs to use all his might to achieve some kind of victory in this war. he is therefore ready to throw any resources here, human money, there, duck meat. do you drive rockets in any quantity, whatever? that's why his activity is crazy at the end of the year, unexpected for that is, he is such a lazy person in principle , and he is very lazy . cherished this is basically what people who know relatives who work with him say, but the situation simply drove him to a standstill, even though he had to actively participate personally in all these processes. russian, or
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what is called hanging noodles, the teeth are talking. what is nothing ? there is a war, everything is nothing, the chicken does not worry, it does not worry. some kind of positive result, not the results, and will gradually fall into such a depression, especially after the start of mobilization, the anxiety in society jumped twice my mythical unattainable victory, all the means are that i am personal, my time , there are forces, in short, about it on the one hand, and he asks, talks about society, and first of all, his elites, so that everything is nothing, everything is bad, so that
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they do not go against him, so that there is no time when something happens i lost the control again. tell me, you got acquainted with these studies without the help of john, and the experience of how information is formed for putin, of course. here you confirm, according to your observation, that this is precisely such a tagamot process, and from the military fsb and atf administration. the president's administration, the president's administration of the security council, from the pastless, the patroshe then only the patro that leaves what he has to carry. you know, i even saw some kind of system in this, which was the last time i saw a signal from it in the film, not in the spring, remember everything, that 's how the documentation was prepared, not even in the reiche, but in this film, something reached hitler there, bormann, or someone else brought these papers, so in general, the time necessary for decision-making has already passed. yes, this is similar to the truth, i somehow do not know the details he didn't stand in the office
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with a candle. this is what moon likes, and this is the basis for this information, he accepts inadequate decisions , he starts there, there are two sperts of february, and even rachnikov , that is the main one. it was polite, as it always was. yes, but you did not notice it in the 1990s. even in the 90s, it was as if the governor was sitting and that was all . the main tasks of officials are not to form the right club . in order to please, it is necessary to give only the guy who likes it , because as it is known, the endings that bring bad news cannot be made boring, and on the basis of this
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information bubble, putin lives and makes decisions, and as we see , you make decisions the solution is absolutely rational and even now i am sure that he is persuading, of course, not only the elite of society, but from himself that everything is not bad . there is more to come. so that 's why i will make inadequate decisions at the end of the day, based on the fact that everything is not bad, even at such a moment when a witch can shoot a projectile in the town or at the door of the bunker, we now have to think what for example, putin said that the russian state will do everything to provide them with everything necessary, but nevertheless, we see uh and social networks and then when they are captured there, for example, that they are absolutely not there are big problems
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with the picture of the world in putin 's head and with reality. so further then the biggest of all is the fact that all of them are not like that, that all of these things are always talked about, that there is always a lot of theft around, and even these soldiers do not have access to them, including for a long time, these payments that we promise, i should take into account that, in general, material interest is beneficial skin - this is the main motivation in general, there are no russians on them igor of the tv channel rain that ’s actually yes, please, someone really rain to cover it, sorry somewhere, it really works somewhere, but nevertheless, the
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right of a social network and so on and how it would be quite dangerous for putin, why for russia, because in general, we are interested in the fact that all russian military units will be supplied with 100% of the conditions, including the contractors, too , such a steppe is a material interest, they all hope there will be some earnings from this war, but they manage to earn, how come not everyone and established people who do not earn, they begin to feel crushed and depressed, and actually this is such an explosive material that can, in the case of obvious and there can be deeper military defeats, he can to detonate this material of the dissatisfaction of the army of the army of the dissatisfaction of the army with how it was planted, at least they would hear your opinion about lukashenko's visit to moscow and only recently putin was a liaison in minsk if lukashenko is now going to putin and does it mean that what was on the previous putin did not get
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everything he wanted, for example, he agrees that the belarusian troops will directly take part in the war against ukraine, or maybe putin wants to squeeze something else out of lukashenko . i don’t have any insight or insiders here, it is possible to conclude that such a thing simply does not happen, well, no matter how much they don’t love each other , and that’s how unpleasant it might be. it may be that he fantasizes, we would communicate, but such a thing does not exist in world practice in world diplomacy it happens when, like a sherlock with masha's handle, you know putin. if only the mistake didn't happen there. where lukashenko goes to putin, this obviously means that you know some problems in the negotiations, that somewhere, as they say, they didn't pay attention to something. that putin apparently did not receive that you are lukash or maybe lukashenko will announce something after putin's departure, but he did not announce it again, he is still calling it, but here i want to say that putin clearly
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wants lukashenko . entered the war well, i think that this is a simple drink for putin, and as they say, a passionate concert in general, if belarus stomps on the war, and this can become a big problem for putin after a while, because i with people in belarus, they state quite clearly that no one wants war in belarus, including lukashenko, forward to the broadcasts, eh, moreover, to fight. toloshenko sold peace as his main commodity. there is no war there, and the last island of his laziness is destroyed, and it will simply lead to the real 2 days of the belarusian people against not only the ukrainian, but also the belarusian people against the russian as an occupier, this is not the fulfillment of a real perspective, as he believes in my belorussian acquaintances expert tell me, do you
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really think that this is a fire, i wanted to get into the er, i wanted to get into the ass, i don't know what to call it, rogozin. that's what that's how it would be the final development of the conflict, the public conflict is not inventing anything that happened between each of the cuckolds in the congregation, he simply openly insulted the rokozyan, in general, he complained that they could kill him there, and immediately after this, such an event taking into account some internal understanding of how things are going on in russia and some insiders, this is already an outsider, ladies. i think that the arrival of the rogozinovka coordinates in this restaurant is a ukrainian ukrainian part of the acceleration, that's what the people who know who encountered him in st. petersburg say something absolutely ego he works like that
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with other people's hands, he always merges information, the key of competitors against rakov, and the competition between them was obvious because he asked to enter prihozhanskoy polyana to arrange for some of his own. volunteer units require budgets for them, which the consonants get used to. in general, there is absolutely no need for him to be there in the donbass, another hungry wolf who has begged for a huge russian military budget and who is now sawing everything with the active participation of everyone. on which to repent of the budget and shortage, so what is the exit, not how people say to me, who own such a primary, what is called information well already in hand, in the style of beauties , everything is so salted by the hurricane information on the a competitor can be beautiful sooner or later putin's location savchin someone for good money it's good and it's mine some kind
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of throwaway putin's support and he is naturally hated by the officials with whom he is in conflict with many not only the sleepy , stubborn st. petersburg governor and so on. putin, well, he will have a second roof. yes, you can't kill ukrainians , something you'll never understand, well, what can't be done with a neighbor . russia will develop a nuclear weapon, yes, this is
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as a guarantee of the preservation of the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity, mrs. igor, how do you understand the territorial integrity of russia, because yes , he tells the russian people that nato is threatening russia, they will attack and that's why we they attacked first as a preemptive but he himself knows that no one was going to attack and that he is the aggressor, and then territorial integrity means occupied ukrainian territories or is there still russian territory ? i think that what is called metyot is like a pomelo and you remembered it, it’s unplayable. it’s not even a place. for the last few years, blackmail to die for
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russia. wide-scale statement but what will happen tomorrow ? and unprecedented nuclear blackmail, just to go because he will declare that i anoksirovat, we anoksirovali or not annexirovali, and there you are, as they say, new territories were annexed to them, new territories were entered, for some reason regions and now we will protect them with nuclear weapons. but this is where such a faction is afraid to negotiate. why is it that only he stammered about it? sydvenpin stated in a direct text that china is categorically against it, so i am this rich, i am this weapon, but it
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is not. let us agree, and after this, how you suddenly shut up now she is starting to untwist this wave for the second time but more cautiously how we how much in your opinion in principle now it is possible to talk with the fact that the russian society is starting well let's say this to understand a little you have understanding of the consequences of all this adventure. well, first of all, a certain turning point occurred in the eyes of the russian society, so that in general the russian society is not very promising . and at least those of draft age understood that at any moment they could take the skin from a warm sofa and ask for some hail there in the frozen ukrainian land or the second method, and after that, today the population began to install rap and a few er, it was hard, you don’t know that the population
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said everything is not now, we have wars, everything is like that. there is no such thing. are there moods in this war, but this trend is not very obvious? second question: what will sharply increase the depressive mood, the fear of anxiety in society, despite all this? now you know. somehow it blew out a little and now their people are laughing and waiting for the second main mobilization , by the way, more about the people about the past brothers in the centers they say that they are complaining against it i think that in order for the population to really come to an end, i realized that what everything is going to must be, must be , more the next , more likely, large-scale defeat of the russian army in ukraine and new waves of mobilization. that is, this fear and anxiety that it turned into such sharp active anti-war
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